I think its so they can be called on at a moments notice to participate and advise on current national security matters. To start from scratch clearing them again would mean government officials would have to wait too long to get their input.
The FBI just raided Mar-A-Lago
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Garland failed America? Hes gutless but he’s hardly the first coward.
If you believe Garland is a coward then you really believe that all those black people in prison deserve to be there.
Supposedly the National Archives is but they seem to be allowing officials to audit themselves.
Right. In fact, you can make the argument that the only reason Garland isn't on the SCOTUS right now, where he is supposed to be and could've been a far bigger asset than he can as AG, is because Obama and the Dems were gutless and allowed McConnell to control the narrative about replacing Scalia.
The republicans complained and campaigned about higher prices to be elected and are thinking about giving Americans a 30% tax hike with the press having little to know conversation about it.
It’s all a ruse. After the student loan stunt, I finally had all the evidence I needed.
Politics today is the WWE during the Attitude Era and the press are Jerry "The King" Lawler and Jim Ross doing the commentating. When a politician speaks to the press it's a wrestler doing a promo.
They're all in on it and consider the American ppl spectators.
No way that will happen.
Trump has to be the Center of Attention.
He doesn’t want someone with a bigger mouth than his taking the spotlight.
What about Lauren Boebert?
Same thing.
It’s one of the reasons he picked Pence.
He just stood there like a mannequin.
Well, if he wants a mannequin in a suit, he should pick one of his adult sons. That'll also cover the nepotism he loves so much.
what exactly could Obama and the Dems have done?
Apparently there's a legal loophole that Obama, had he been petty, could've taken advantage of to bypass The Senate and legally appointed Garland to the SC. No doubt Trump would've resorted to this if it came to that.
Obama Can and Should Put Merrick Garland on the Supreme Court
The outgoing president has one final trump card—and he should play it.
newrepublic.com
man, Garland wouldve been only a temporary justice under that plan. his appointment wouldve ended in 2017. refusing to take that route wasnt pussy, it was practical. there wasnt any upside to it, and republicans wouldve used the appointment to demonize Democrats and then appoint the 3 stooges any way.Apparently there's a legal loophole that Obama, had he been petty, could've taken advantage of to bypass The Senate and legally appointed Garland to the SC. No doubt Trump would've resorted to this if it came to that.
Obama Can and Should Put Merrick Garland on the Supreme Court
The outgoing president has one final trump card—and he should play it.
it was a no win situation.
POTUS has more power than what you have seen Obama/Biden have shown.
The same with the Democratic Party.
Biden/Democrats controlled both House of Congress for the past two years and allowed Manchin/Sinema to call the shots.
They had the Full Power to get those two in line, but refused to use it.
Lincoln used his power with the Emancipation Proclamation.
Roosevelt used his power with The New Deal.
Eisenhower used his power with the Interstate/Highway act.
Johnson used his power with the Civil Rights Bill and Voting Rights Act.
As long as Democrats/Progressives/Liberals continue with the “They Go Low, We Go High” crap, they will continue to be at the bottom and always struggling unlike the Conservatives.
how? what exactly could they have done?
Read the US Constitution.
come on man, be serious. give me a sincere, realistic and plausible answer, not no ambiguous mess.
truth is there wasnt much that couldve been done to rein in Sinema and Manchin. you see how things have changed with having one extra democrat in the senate.
Read The US Constitution
I’m not your personal assistant.
If you need more help, read Articles l, ll and lll.
Article 1 is on the Legislature (Congress)
Article 2 is on the Executive (POTUS, VPOTUS)
Article 3 is on the Judicial (SCOTUS)
If regular everyday Americans actually sat down and read the US Constitution right now, this country would do a complete 180 in two years.
That’s the main reason they don’t teach the US Constitution thru grades K thru 12.
bro stop bullshittin.
i was a Tennessee senate aide. i was recruited for and poised to run for local office. i know more about politics than most people.
this is why i ask for a specific strategy instead of vague inferences.
Yo!!! now this shit has went to the next level we knew he was given this shit away. Yeah, this is not going to end well for him. They gonna let him stick around for a few months to fuck up the republican party but after that he’s done. Don’t forget he is going to snitch on everybody going down the drain.
Well….if you got all that experience in politics then you should know the answer to your own question.
Lmbaoooooo
the point is that you dont have an answer.
you dishonestly criticized people while having no basis for the critique.
its okay to admit when youre wrong.
so are they searching all his shit again or is this a response to the laptop news?
Kudos for Paul Reid being able to keep a straight face....
@Soul On Ice in his bed curled up in a ball cryin' 'bout his daddy
Trump lawyer responds after more materials marked classified handed over to DOJ
@Soul On Ice in his bed curled up in a ball cryin' 'bout his daddy
Trump lawyer responds after more materials marked classified handed over to DOJ
Prosecutors Seek Trump Lawyer’s Testimony, Suggesting Evidence of Crime
The Justice Department cited the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege in demanding testimony from a lawyer representing former President Donald Trump in his documents case.
The move by the Justice Department is the latest aggressive move by the special counsel investigating former President Donald J. Trump.
Federal prosecutors overseeing the investigation into former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents are seeking to pierce assertions of attorney-client privilege and compel one of his lawyers to answer more questions before a grand jury, according to two people familiar with the matter, adding an aggressive new dimension to the inquiry and underscoring the legal peril facing Mr. Trump.
The prosecutors have sought approval from a federal judge to invoke what is known as the crime-fraud exception, which allows them to work around attorney-client privilege when they have reason to believe that legal advice or legal services have been used in furthering a crime. The fact that prosecutors invoked the exception in a sealed motion to compel the testimony of the lawyer, M. Evan Corcoran, suggests that they believe Mr. Trump or his allies might have used Mr. Corcoran’s services in that way.
Among the questions that the Justice Department has been examining since last year is whether Mr. Trump or his associates obstructed justice in failing to comply with demands to return a trove of government material he took with him from the White House upon leaving office, including hundreds of documents with classified markings.
Last May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena for any classified documents still in Mr. Trump’s possession, after he had voluntarily turned over an initial batch of material to the National Archives that turned out to include almost 200 classified documents. In June, Mr. Corcoran met with investigators and handed over more than 30 documents in response to the subpoena.
Another lawyer for Mr. Trump, Christina Bobb, then signed a statement asserting that a “diligent search” had been conducted at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s residence and private club in Palm Beach, Fla., and that there were no additional documents bearing classification markings. Ms. Bobb has told investigators and others that Mr. Corcoran drafted the statement, and that she added some caveats to it, seeking to make it sound less ironclad.
But when the F.B.I. searched Mar-a-Lago in August, agents found more than 100 additional classified documents. The affidavit submitted by the Justice Department to obtain the search warrant said that there was “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction” would be found in the search.
Mr. Corcoran recently appeared before a grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington and is believed to have asserted attorney-client privilege on behalf of Mr. Trump in refusing to answer certain questions related to his representation in the documents investigation, according to three people familiar with the matter.
It remains unclear what questions Mr. Corcoran sought to avoid answering by asserting attorney-client privilege or what crime the Justice Department cited in invoking the crime-fraud exception in its motion to Judge Beryl A. Howell, the chief judge in the Washington federal courthouse, who oversees all grand jury matters.
But after his appearance in front of the grand jury, Mr. Corcoran received notice that the Justice Department was seeking to use the exception to break through his assertions of privilege, the people familiar with the matter said. Judge Howell, who has consistently decided in the government’s favor on privilege issues surrounding Mr. Trump, will ultimately rule on the department’s request about Mr. Corcoran. She will be stepping down from the position of chief judge next month.
The push for Mr. Corcoran’s testimony is another sign of the aggressive efforts being made by Jack Smith, the special counsel overseeing the investigations into Mr. Trump, to secure testimony. Mr. Smith is guiding both the investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of the classified documents and the inquiry into Mr. Trump’s efforts to remain in office after his election defeat in 2020 and how they led to the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capito
A spokesman for Mr. Trump described the latest move by the Justice Department as a politically motivated witch hunt intended to block Mr. Trump from being re-elected to the White House, and predicted that it would fail.
It remained unclear if the crime-fraud arguments in the Justice Department’s motion to compel Mr. Corcoran’s testimony included evidence beyond what was initially contained in the search warrant affidavit.
It was also not immediately clear whether the Justice Department suspects misconduct by Mr. Corcoran and Mr. Trump, by Mr. Trump and others or by Mr. Trump alone.
Although the Justice Department occasionally uses the crime-fraud exception for cases in which lawyers and their clients team up to break the law, prosecutors more commonly invoke it when they believe a client is improperly using a lawyer’s services in the furtherance of a crime, according to legal experts.
“The attorney does not have to be a co-conspirator,” said John S. Martin Jr., who served as a U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and is a former federal judge.
A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not respond to messages seeking comment.
Prosecutors overseeing the documents investigation have also been asking witnesses questions about Boris Epshteyn, who has played a central role in coordinating lawyers on several of the investigations involving Mr. Trump, according to multiple people briefed on the matter. It was Mr. Epshteyn who first brought Mr. Corcoran into Mr. Trump’s orbit.
At least three lawyers have sat for interviews with the Justice Department during which questions about Mr. Epshteyn were asked — among them Ms. Bobb and, more recently, Alina Habba, people with knowledge of the matter said. A third lawyer close to Mr. Trump, Jesse Binnall, has also spoken with prosecutors about Mr. Epshteyn, the people said.
One person briefed on the interviews said that investigators were interested in discussions between Mr. Epshteyn and others about establishing a possible common-interest privilege in the documents case. A common-interest privilege creates a kind of umbrella privilege allowing groups of lawyers and clients to communicate with each other confidentially.
Such common-interest agreements are typical in cases with multiple lawyers and multiple witnesses. But prosecutors are asking questions indicating they’re interested in whether Mr. Epshteyn was trying to influence witness testimony, the person briefed on the interviews said.
Mr. Binnall declined to comment.
Lawyers representing or advising Mr. Trump have been central players in both the documents and Jan. 6 investigations.
A federal judge in California issued an opinion in a civil case last year arguing that there was reasonable evidence that Mr. Trump and another one of his lawyers, John Eastman, had conspired together to commit at least two crimes in their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election: conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruction of an official proceeding before Congress.
Mr. Eastman had filed a lawsuit seeking to prevent the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 from obtaining some of his emails by arguing that many were protected by attorney-client privilege. But the judge, David O. Carter, overruled him, citing the crime-fraud exception as a reason to allow the committee to have the emails.
In June, federal agents armed with a search warrant seized Mr. Eastman’s phone in connection with the Jan. 6 investigation.
www.nytimes.com
The Justice Department cited the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege in demanding testimony from a lawyer representing former President Donald Trump in his documents case.
The move by the Justice Department is the latest aggressive move by the special counsel investigating former President Donald J. Trump.
Federal prosecutors overseeing the investigation into former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents are seeking to pierce assertions of attorney-client privilege and compel one of his lawyers to answer more questions before a grand jury, according to two people familiar with the matter, adding an aggressive new dimension to the inquiry and underscoring the legal peril facing Mr. Trump.
The prosecutors have sought approval from a federal judge to invoke what is known as the crime-fraud exception, which allows them to work around attorney-client privilege when they have reason to believe that legal advice or legal services have been used in furthering a crime. The fact that prosecutors invoked the exception in a sealed motion to compel the testimony of the lawyer, M. Evan Corcoran, suggests that they believe Mr. Trump or his allies might have used Mr. Corcoran’s services in that way.
Among the questions that the Justice Department has been examining since last year is whether Mr. Trump or his associates obstructed justice in failing to comply with demands to return a trove of government material he took with him from the White House upon leaving office, including hundreds of documents with classified markings.
Last May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena for any classified documents still in Mr. Trump’s possession, after he had voluntarily turned over an initial batch of material to the National Archives that turned out to include almost 200 classified documents. In June, Mr. Corcoran met with investigators and handed over more than 30 documents in response to the subpoena.
Another lawyer for Mr. Trump, Christina Bobb, then signed a statement asserting that a “diligent search” had been conducted at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s residence and private club in Palm Beach, Fla., and that there were no additional documents bearing classification markings. Ms. Bobb has told investigators and others that Mr. Corcoran drafted the statement, and that she added some caveats to it, seeking to make it sound less ironclad.
But when the F.B.I. searched Mar-a-Lago in August, agents found more than 100 additional classified documents. The affidavit submitted by the Justice Department to obtain the search warrant said that there was “probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction” would be found in the search.
Mr. Corcoran recently appeared before a grand jury in Federal District Court in Washington and is believed to have asserted attorney-client privilege on behalf of Mr. Trump in refusing to answer certain questions related to his representation in the documents investigation, according to three people familiar with the matter.
It remains unclear what questions Mr. Corcoran sought to avoid answering by asserting attorney-client privilege or what crime the Justice Department cited in invoking the crime-fraud exception in its motion to Judge Beryl A. Howell, the chief judge in the Washington federal courthouse, who oversees all grand jury matters.
But after his appearance in front of the grand jury, Mr. Corcoran received notice that the Justice Department was seeking to use the exception to break through his assertions of privilege, the people familiar with the matter said. Judge Howell, who has consistently decided in the government’s favor on privilege issues surrounding Mr. Trump, will ultimately rule on the department’s request about Mr. Corcoran. She will be stepping down from the position of chief judge next month.
The push for Mr. Corcoran’s testimony is another sign of the aggressive efforts being made by Jack Smith, the special counsel overseeing the investigations into Mr. Trump, to secure testimony. Mr. Smith is guiding both the investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of the classified documents and the inquiry into Mr. Trump’s efforts to remain in office after his election defeat in 2020 and how they led to the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capito
A spokesman for Mr. Trump described the latest move by the Justice Department as a politically motivated witch hunt intended to block Mr. Trump from being re-elected to the White House, and predicted that it would fail.
It remained unclear if the crime-fraud arguments in the Justice Department’s motion to compel Mr. Corcoran’s testimony included evidence beyond what was initially contained in the search warrant affidavit.
It was also not immediately clear whether the Justice Department suspects misconduct by Mr. Corcoran and Mr. Trump, by Mr. Trump and others or by Mr. Trump alone.
Although the Justice Department occasionally uses the crime-fraud exception for cases in which lawyers and their clients team up to break the law, prosecutors more commonly invoke it when they believe a client is improperly using a lawyer’s services in the furtherance of a crime, according to legal experts.
“The attorney does not have to be a co-conspirator,” said John S. Martin Jr., who served as a U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and is a former federal judge.
A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment. A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not respond to messages seeking comment.
Prosecutors overseeing the documents investigation have also been asking witnesses questions about Boris Epshteyn, who has played a central role in coordinating lawyers on several of the investigations involving Mr. Trump, according to multiple people briefed on the matter. It was Mr. Epshteyn who first brought Mr. Corcoran into Mr. Trump’s orbit.
At least three lawyers have sat for interviews with the Justice Department during which questions about Mr. Epshteyn were asked — among them Ms. Bobb and, more recently, Alina Habba, people with knowledge of the matter said. A third lawyer close to Mr. Trump, Jesse Binnall, has also spoken with prosecutors about Mr. Epshteyn, the people said.
One person briefed on the interviews said that investigators were interested in discussions between Mr. Epshteyn and others about establishing a possible common-interest privilege in the documents case. A common-interest privilege creates a kind of umbrella privilege allowing groups of lawyers and clients to communicate with each other confidentially.
Such common-interest agreements are typical in cases with multiple lawyers and multiple witnesses. But prosecutors are asking questions indicating they’re interested in whether Mr. Epshteyn was trying to influence witness testimony, the person briefed on the interviews said.
Mr. Binnall declined to comment.
Lawyers representing or advising Mr. Trump have been central players in both the documents and Jan. 6 investigations.
A federal judge in California issued an opinion in a civil case last year arguing that there was reasonable evidence that Mr. Trump and another one of his lawyers, John Eastman, had conspired together to commit at least two crimes in their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election: conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruction of an official proceeding before Congress.
Mr. Eastman had filed a lawsuit seeking to prevent the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 from obtaining some of his emails by arguing that many were protected by attorney-client privilege. But the judge, David O. Carter, overruled him, citing the crime-fraud exception as a reason to allow the committee to have the emails.
In June, federal agents armed with a search warrant seized Mr. Eastman’s phone in connection with the Jan. 6 investigation.
Prosecutors Seek Trump Lawyer’s Testimony, Suggesting Evidence of Crime (Published 2023)
The Justice Department cited the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege in demanding testimony from a lawyer representing former President Donald Trump in his documents case.
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Trump used folder bearing ‘classified’ wording to block light keeping him awake at night, lawyer says
“He has one of those landline telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue light on it, and it keeps him up at night,” Trump lawyer Tim Parlatore told CNN. He added, “So now the president has to find a different way to keep the blue light out of his eyes.”
By Summer Concepcion
Feb. 13, 2023, 12:19 PM EST
www.nbcnews.com
A lawyer for former President Donald Trump shared a surprising explanation for what Trump was doing at his Mar-a-Lago resort with a folder bearing "classified" wording that was recently turned over to federal investigators.
The lawyer, Tim Parlatore, was asked in a CNN interview Sunday about what he said was an empty folder labeled “classified evening summary” that was given to investigators. Parlatore described the folder as “one of the more humorous aspects of this whole thing.”
The folder was in Trump’s bedroom at his estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and he was using it help him sleep better at night, Parlatore said.
“He has one of those landline telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue light on it, and it keeps him up at night,” Parlatore said. “So he took the manila folder and he put it over it so that it would keep the light down so he could sleep at night.”
Despite being labeled with the words “classified evening summary,” the folder did not bear classified markings, and it was empty, Parlatore said.
"It is not a classification marking," he said. "It's not anything that is controlled in any way. There's nothing illegal about it. There's nothing in it."
But the Justice Department “went crazy” when it found out about it, he said.
“They actually gave me a subpoena to say give us over this empty folder that means nothing,” he continued.
Asked how investigators found out about the folder next to Trump’s bed, Parlatore said Trump’s legal team wrote reports about the places it searched for classified documents and shared the information with investigators.
“And when they read that, and they saw, oh, there’s this folder here that is so far outside of the scope of the subpoena or anything else, they demanded it back,” Parlatore said.
“So now the president has to find a different way to keep the blue light out of his eyes.”
Trump’s legal team voluntarily turned over the folder, which it said was found at Mar-a-Lago, to the Justice Department last month, a senior law enforcement official said last week.
It is unclear what level of classification markings were on the folder or what it might have contained.
The Justice Department has continued efforts to recover classified documents from Trump after FBI agents searched his Florida residence with a warrant last year. Agents found more than 100 documents with classification markings after Trump’s lawyers said he had returned all documents with classified markings from the White House, Justice Department officials said in court filings in August. Two more documents with classified markings were found at a storage facility not far from Mar-a-Lago in December and were turned over to the FBI.
A “small number” of classified documents were also found at former Vice President Mike Pence’s Indiana home last month, according to his lawyer. The FBI discovered an additional classified document at Pence’s Indiana home during a voluntary five-hour search Friday.
Obama-era classified documents were found in President Joe Biden’s Delaware home and an office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.
“He has one of those landline telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue light on it, and it keeps him up at night,” Trump lawyer Tim Parlatore told CNN. He added, “So now the president has to find a different way to keep the blue light out of his eyes.”
By Summer Concepcion
Feb. 13, 2023, 12:19 PM EST
Trump used folder bearing ‘classified’ wording to block light keeping him awake at night, lawyer says
“He has one of those landline telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue light on it, and it keeps him up at night,” Trump lawyer Tim Parlatore told CNN. He added, “So now the president has to find a different way to keep the blue light out of his eyes.”
A lawyer for former President Donald Trump shared a surprising explanation for what Trump was doing at his Mar-a-Lago resort with a folder bearing "classified" wording that was recently turned over to federal investigators.
The lawyer, Tim Parlatore, was asked in a CNN interview Sunday about what he said was an empty folder labeled “classified evening summary” that was given to investigators. Parlatore described the folder as “one of the more humorous aspects of this whole thing.”
The folder was in Trump’s bedroom at his estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and he was using it help him sleep better at night, Parlatore said.
“He has one of those landline telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue light on it, and it keeps him up at night,” Parlatore said. “So he took the manila folder and he put it over it so that it would keep the light down so he could sleep at night.”
Despite being labeled with the words “classified evening summary,” the folder did not bear classified markings, and it was empty, Parlatore said.
"It is not a classification marking," he said. "It's not anything that is controlled in any way. There's nothing illegal about it. There's nothing in it."
But the Justice Department “went crazy” when it found out about it, he said.
“They actually gave me a subpoena to say give us over this empty folder that means nothing,” he continued.
Asked how investigators found out about the folder next to Trump’s bed, Parlatore said Trump’s legal team wrote reports about the places it searched for classified documents and shared the information with investigators.
“And when they read that, and they saw, oh, there’s this folder here that is so far outside of the scope of the subpoena or anything else, they demanded it back,” Parlatore said.
“So now the president has to find a different way to keep the blue light out of his eyes.”
Trump’s legal team voluntarily turned over the folder, which it said was found at Mar-a-Lago, to the Justice Department last month, a senior law enforcement official said last week.
It is unclear what level of classification markings were on the folder or what it might have contained.
The Justice Department has continued efforts to recover classified documents from Trump after FBI agents searched his Florida residence with a warrant last year. Agents found more than 100 documents with classification markings after Trump’s lawyers said he had returned all documents with classified markings from the White House, Justice Department officials said in court filings in August. Two more documents with classified markings were found at a storage facility not far from Mar-a-Lago in December and were turned over to the FBI.
A “small number” of classified documents were also found at former Vice President Mike Pence’s Indiana home last month, according to his lawyer. The FBI discovered an additional classified document at Pence’s Indiana home during a voluntary five-hour search Friday.
Obama-era classified documents were found in President Joe Biden’s Delaware home and an office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.
