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Djmarkxr7

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yeah plus he would have just done it out of guilt... carver was a single guy in his thirties working policeman hours... would not have been ideal... but I think he did more than most people would have done for Randy... who is the new prop joe right?

I didn't even think about that but you're right, Randy was a hustler.

The sad part is that before that incident Randy could've gone either way but he was favoring the good side, but with what happend and the way it happend, he was sent express down the path of evil!!!
 

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Randy was always a hustler and manipulater... he got everyone to do what he wanted... he used his mind as a weapon... problem was he didn't learn the code.... he wasn't a street kid just greedy and ambitious...

Dukie was book smart and Michael was Leadership smart...naymond was a little of all three... all of them could have went down the right path but the circumstances didn't allow it...

Mike could have been a boxer or in the Military or something... but he had to look after Bug who was too young to go into the system... Dukie could have been a programmer or IT guy but his benefactor Prezbo was told not to take him in... naymond got lucky... iirc he was the only one who still saw his pops :dunno:
 

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While it is entirely possible, David Simon says in his DVD commentary that they weren't going to use musical clues in the series to tell the audience what was happening rather the music would only come from something that was part of the scene, in this case the song was coming from the car stereo.

Notice that in the scene after Wee-Bay shuts the SUV off another one passes playing the same some @ the same part which suggests that the song was just on the radio period.

What he and the director actually wanted us to notice was the fact that Wee-Bay, as the hardened criminal, was standing under the "burgers" sign and D'Angelo, who never really had the heart for the game, was standing under the "chicken" sign.

I can follow you on that burger/chicken analogy considering Weebay saved Avon's life after a "burger run". When Omar tried to kill him outside of Orlando's....what I feel was the climax of season 1. But still, the coincidence of Jay-Z's "vamoose son of a bitch" being the last words heard on Weebay's system before pulling over and talking to D (under the New York sign) is too much of a coincidence. Also, later on, D'angelo thought Weebay was going to kill him at Weebay's apt after Levy told Avon to "clean up".

I'm thinking the writers were laying down the groundwork/plot for the entire series. No matter how you interpret it, shit is deep...Sign of true genius.
 
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Djmarkxr7

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I can follow you on that burger/chicken analogy considering Weebay saved Avon's life after a "burger run". When Omar tried to kill him outside of Orlando's....what I feel was the climax of season 1. But still, the coincidence of Jay-Z's "vamoose son of a bitch" being the last words heard on Weebay's system before pulling over and talking to D (under the New York sign) is too much of a coincidence. Also, later on, D'angelo thought Weebay was going to kill him at Weebay's apt after Levy told Avon to "clean up".

I'm thinking the writers were laying down the groundwork/plot for the entire series. No matter how you interpret it, shit is deep...Sign of true genius.

I'm re-watching the series again myself and following up on what Simon said about no "musical cues" I'm inclined to think that you're right since music is actually used so little throughout the whole series that when it is used, it has both meaning and impact.

I just finished season 1 again, I'm @ where Kima's girl is listening to some jazz by herself and crying while Kima was in the hospital.

You never heard her or Kima listen to any music @ all until that point and the song itself was quite sad.
 

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I can follow you on that burger/chicken analogy considering Weebay saved Avon's life after a "burger run". When Omar tried to kill him outside of Orlando's....what I feel was the climax of season 1. But still, the coincidence of Jay-Z's "vamoose son of a bitch" being the last words heard on Weebay's system before pulling over and talking to D (under the New York sign) is too much of a coincidence. Also, later on, D'angelo thought Weebay was going to kill him at Weebay's apt after Levy told Avon to "clean up".

I'm thinking the writers were laying down the groundwork/plot for the entire series. No matter how you interpret it, shit is deep...Sign of true genius.

that jay-z verse was definitely no coincidence. that may have been the point where simon put his foot down as far as not using so many musical references but that one is a definite.

:cool:oh yea and about that beef / chicken thing...



weebay orders another pit beef sandwich while confessing to the murders.:cool:
 
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cranrab

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djm posed & ask questions that you really never answer, make up

things that were not actual fact.

:confused:

please provide examples of things made up that were not actual fact.

please provide examples of questions i never really answer.

without specifics, you're merely doing that which you suggest i have done.
 

cranrab

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wtf was up with the scene where slim charles was

talking to the two idiots, & said omars gma was a colored woman

that their mothers werent?

-does everyone in bmore call their g-ma their me-maw?

slim charles was insulting their intelligence.

and rightly so.

those 2 habitual drug users were stupid, sloppy and unprofessional.
 

cranrab

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dog... you just might be onto some shit right here.

the song was h to the izzo. the whole verse was about comin to hustle in maryland "herbin em in the home of the terrapins"... saying vamoose as they drive past new york fried chicken. i wanna dismiss it as coincidence but its too many things lined up...

thats some straight up modern day shakespeare shit right there

if you select the commentary soundtrack on 1 of the episodes (not necessarily that one), they talk about it directly.
 

cranrab

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Avon, no matter how tight they were growing up as kids, would NOT have kept him in the position that he was in nor would they have climbed so high IF Stringer was that stupid from the outset.

which remains to this day, nothing more than your SPECULATION.

no evidence, no proof other than he (stringer) was merely there. you are attributing a measure of barksdale success to stringer bell simply because he was in the mix. not based on anything in the show, but solely because "he was there".

i demand more evidence. and as always, none is forthcoming.

i'm not suggesting your position is outlandish, rather that it is wholly unsupported by evidence or details presented within the show. in fact, i see how someone could occupy your position, but i would still assert it is flawed.
 

cranrab

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While it is entirely possible, David Simon says in his DVD commentary that they weren't going to use musical clues in the series to tell the audience what was happening rather the music would only come from something that was part of the scene, in this case the song was coming from the car stereo.

Notice that in the scene after Wee-Bay shuts the SUV off another one passes playing the same some @ the same part which suggests that the song was just on the radio period.

:yes:

diegetic v. non-diegetic.
 

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that jay-z verse was definitely no coincidence. that may have been the point where simon put his foot down as far as not using so many musical references but that one is a definite.

:cool:oh yea and about that beef / chicken thing...



weebay orders another pit beef sandwich while confessing to the murders.:cool:


:eek:
 

Djmarkxr7

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which remains to this day, nothing more than your SPECULATION.

no evidence, no proof other than he (stringer) was merely there. you are attributing a measure of barksdale success to stringer bell simply because he was in the mix. not based on anything in the show, but solely because "he was there".

i demand more evidence. and as always, none is forthcoming.

i'm not suggesting your position is outlandish, rather that it is wholly unsupported by evidence or details presented within the show. in fact, i see how someone could occupy your position, but i would still assert it is flawed.

Dude, the evidence IS the show itself, they run/control the best real estate in Baltimore (the towers, the low-rises and the avenue corners) with Avon as the #1 and Stringer as the clear and only #2!!!

You yourself are doing the flipside, as if Barksdale could have been where he was without him, while this may be true this is not supported by any evidence.

They had fully taken control of and have run the Towers for a year, what IS illustrated in the first season is what I have referred to before, Stringer runs the day-to-day operation of everything, ALL of the business of the Barksdale organization goes thru him.

EVERYONE first speaks to Stringer and if he deems it important enough, he passes whatever along to Avon, the command structure is made painstakingly clear throughout season 1, and this is BEFORE Omar made the hit attempt on Avon.

The ONLY time this structure is circumvented is when D is brought in to talk about Wallace, as much as Stringer questions him D only addresses Avon, on this we can safely assume that this is only allowed because D is Avon's cousin.

When Avon gets out of jail the command structure changes, this is the basis of our disagreement, I still contend that Stringer, as a "master of organization" was in place because of this and later allowed his own dream of becoming a "legit" businessman cloud his decision-making process after season 1.

I am yet again watching the series again and I believe more than ever now that

1) Stringer was correct in making the move to Prop Joe's product and should have done more to convince Avon to make that move himself.

Not only were the addicts crossing over to the Eastside twice a day to get their drugs, remember the one guy who took a beatdown from Poot's crew because he didn't buy from them and was crossing over to the East side.

When Stringer made the deal, Bodie was actively "laying his people off" because they weren't selling anything while Prop Joe's people where buzzing with customers.

Since we both were using analogies in this thread how about thinking of Avon as Microsoft and Prop Joe as Apple?

Microsoft has a much bigger market share but Apple is vastly more profitable.

2)D'Angelo brought his death upon himself.

Stringer's move in killing D was what it was, business.

D had marginalized himself too far away to be trusted for 20 years, he told Stringer this ("What about Wallace?") he told Avon this ("Leave me be!") and he even told his Mother this ("Tell Stringer, Avon, and Donnette to leave me be!").

From Stringer's POV he was already upset about Wallace, and was not heeding nor paying any attention to Avon even though Avon reached out to him several times.

Even Avon was concerned when he had his last discussion with Stringer, and let's not forget that Wee-Bay was caught in Philly and charged SOLELY because of D'Angelo.

D truly wasn't meant for the life, he was in it because his name was Barksdale, he himself said this time and time again, remember when he didn't say anything when they caught the White boy with the funny money, Bodie and crew gave him a beatdown because D wouldn't answer what he wanted done.

He also didn't punish the two he caught dipping into the stash and selling on the side, he merely demoted them.
 

cranrab

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1) Stringer was correct in making the move to Prop Joe's product and should have done more to convince Avon to make that move himself.

Not only were the addicts crossing over to the Eastside twice a day to get their drugs, remember the one guy who took a beatdown from Poot's crew because he didn't buy from them and was crossing over to the East side.

there are TWO flaws of inconsistency with this near perfect show.

one of them involves what you have mentioned above.

listen to stringer's philosophy in season ONE on selling "shit" then compare it to his philosophy on selling "shit" after proposition joe's package. this is a wild fluctuation in philosophy that story editors allowed to slip through.

to make it plain (since people dramatically overlook season ONE), stringer himself discounted the importance of the quality of the product.
 

Give Me 3ft.

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no, he shouldn't have went the stringer bell route and put his name on everything

here you go.

he could do that(stringer), he had enough legit business

to get away with it. he also was the one who told marlo

about string purchases coming back to bite him.
 
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cranrab

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here you go.

he could do that(stringer), he had enough legit business

to get away with it. he also was the one who told marlo

about string purchases coming back to bite him.

sadly, it is apparent that many here don't watch the show well enough. i'm not going to recommend people watch the show any longer, because it's pretty obvious at this point that some don't have the capacity to understand what is being depicted.

both times avon barksdale was arrested, IT WAS BECAUSE OF STRINGER BELL'S INCOMPETENCE.

and i'm NOT referring to the snitching.

ask yourself why was major crimes able to capture a conversation between avon and d'angelo in a face to face at orlando's? whose DUMB ASS idea was that?

ask yourself how major crimes was able to secure a warrant for avon at the stash house? i'll even make it plain for you: it was because DUMB ASS stringer bell put avon's government on it.

it's amazing to read so many (what must be children) on BGOL talk about how smooth stringer was with his, putting shit in his name and all that. THOSE WERE THE DUMBEST THINGS HE EVER COULD'VE DONE.

creating paper trails, drawing attention to yourself with UNEXPLAINED WEALTH, assets not commensurate with income: i try to give some of you some room for growth, but you can lead a horse to water...

it's clear that some viewers have a romantic infatuation with what they believe stringer bell represents. too bad.
 

cranrab

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Dude, the evidence IS the show itself, they run/control the best real estate in Baltimore (the towers, the low-rises and the avenue corners) with Avon as the #1 and Stringer as the clear and only #2!!!

You yourself are doing the flipside, as if Barksdale could have been where he was without him, while this may be true this is not supported by any evidence.

They had fully taken control of and have run the Towers for a year, what IS illustrated in the first season is what I have referred to before, Stringer runs the day-to-day operation of everything, ALL of the business of the Barksdale organization goes thru him.

EVERYONE first speaks to Stringer and if he deems it important enough, he passes whatever along to Avon, the command structure is made painstakingly clear throughout season 1, and this is BEFORE Omar made the hit attempt on Avon.

The ONLY time this structure is circumvented is when D is brought in to talk about Wallace, as much as Stringer questions him D only addresses Avon, on this we can safely assume that this is only allowed because D is Avon's cousin.

When Avon gets out of jail the command structure changes, this is the basis of our disagreement, I still contend that Stringer, as a "master of organization" was in place because of this and later allowed his own dream of becoming a "legit" businessman cloud his decision-making process after season 1.

DJM,

all of the above is sound and fury, signifying nothing.

i will break it down for you and anyone else that holds your position by eliminating all the fluff from your response so that we can expose the GAPING hole.

1) i stipulate to the vertical hierarchy with avon barksdale at the top of the organization and stringer bell somewhere beneath him (for my point, it doesn't matter whether he is #2 or #20).

2) i stipulate to the apparent communicational chain of command, which has most people speaking with stringer bell before addressing avon barksdale.

in agreement so far? hope so, because this is what you took pains to needlessly point out in the paragraphs above.

BOTH of these points, which we can BOTH stipulate to, DO NOT AMOUNT TO PROOF THAT STRINGER BELL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RISE OF THE BARKSDALE ORGANIZATION.

do you understand that? do you get that you are SPECULATING and creating fan fiction in your head?

IN SPITE OF ALL THE EVIDENCE that stringer was a fumbling stooge for THREE seasons, you are somehow extrapolating that immediately prior he was all about it. what happened? he took some stupid pills? drank some silly water? lost his nerve?

if stringer bell was in "the game", then answer this. why did the writers make it so clear that SHAMROCK, SLIM CHARLES and AVON BARKSDALE knew BASIC protocol about "church sunday" but stringer bell was oblivious? why did the writers juxtapose the scene of slim charles chastising the 2 dope fiends against the scene of avon barksdale admonishing stringer bell?
 

Give Me 3ft.

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sadly, it is apparent that many here don't watch the show well enough. i'm not going to recommend people watch the show any longer, because it's pretty obvious at this point that some don't have the capacity to understand what is being depicted.

both times avon barksdale was arrested, IT WAS BECAUSE OF STRINGER BELL'S INCOMPETENCE.

and i'm NOT referring to the snitching.

ask yourself why was major crimes able to capture a conversation between avon and d'angelo in a face to face at orlando's? whose DUMB ASS idea was that?

ask yourself how major crimes was able to secure a warrant for avon at the stash house? i'll even make it plain for you: it was because DUMB ASS stringer bell put avon's government on it.

it's amazing to read so many (what must be children) on BGOL talk about how smooth stringer was with his, putting shit in his name and all that. THOSE WERE THE DUMBEST THINGS HE EVER COULD'VE DONE.

creating paper trails, drawing attention to yourself with UNEXPLAINED WEALTH, assets not commensurate with income: i try to give some of you some room for growth, but you can lead a horse to water...

it's clear that some viewers have a romantic infatuation with what they believe stringer bell represents. too bad.

major crimes was on them because of the bodies!!!

period, mcnulty stated that, like i stated before thats what put

major crimes on them the 2nd time. daniels stated that,: this

unit is about the bodies. which is why they were on kintel. once

the war w/ marlo popped off, & dead bodies(including the 14y.o)

major crimes hopped on them right away!

avons name was not on the stash house, only the condo. man they

had like 5-10 legit businesses. the $$ wasnt followed until

freeman did so, & even then that resulted in a failed trial for

clay davis. freeman:"you follow the drugs it leads you to

drugdealers, you follow the $$, no telling where it will lead

you(the politicians)".

stop the insults(im not a child), just discuss the facts.

as far as the convo @ orlandos, they were moving out.

the cops couldnt get anything with freemans chick, so the

drilled from next door w/ the fiber optic cables. refresh my

memory as to what stringer had to do with that. briana was mad @

avon for sending d, that was his call(avon). i swear sometimes

you are doing this on purpose(being obstinate just 'cause).

im not romanticizing stringer, he didnt fully understand the

streets, that was obvious. he did some good things & some bad,

like damn near every other character on the show.
 

cranrab

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avons name was not on the stash house, only the condo.

really?

:lol:

:smh: maybe it's the fact that i have professional experience that makes it easier for me to spot details, maybe i just have a greater attention span than most.

when trying to obtain the warrant, how did detective mcnulty prove to ADA pearlman that his CI was credible?

oh, but you already watched the show, right? so your "facts" and claims are straight though. wikipedia and youtube are like cliff notes for today's slacker.

:rolleyes:

refresh my

memory as to what stringer had to do with that.

:lol:

oh but you watched though, right?

what structurally occurred to the barksdale organization's communication infrastructure prior the audio/video surveillance? whose decision facilitated that STUPID ass change and necessitated the meet?

here's your refresh: "we gotta build a wall around you, b"
 

Give Me 3ft.

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really?

:lol:

:smh: maybe it's the fact that i have professional experience that makes it easier for me to spot details, maybe i just have a greater attention span than most.

when trying to obtain the warrant, how did detective mcnulty prove to ADA pearlman that his CI was credible?

oh, but you already watched the show, right? so your "facts" and claims are straight though. wikipedia and youtube are like cliff notes for today's slacker.

:rolleyes:



:lol:

oh but you watched though, right?

what structurally occurred to the barksdale organization's communication infrastructure prior the audio/video surveillance? whose decision facilitated that STUPID ass change and necessitated the meet?

here's your refresh: "we gotta build a wall around you, b"

ok, you may be correct about name on warrant.

but if so thats on avons dumb ass, having guns & grenades &

the people to use them in your spot w/ your name on the shit,

how fucking stupid is that. a person has to be responsible for

themselves. string didnt tell him or make him do that.

as for the build a wall around you, he did that(string).

i think he took his phone, which he(avon) should have never had

in the 1st place. the wall meant everyone had to go to string

1st before avon. so i still dont see your point. D was

physically related to avon, he didnt have to go through string.

which further leads to what is your point!

3 things he did good 1. kill wallace, 2. get d killed, 3.

fucking d's bm:lol:. 4. kept the organization afloat & making

$$$, while avon was gone, 5. not take a life unnecessarily. i've

never watched this show on youtube, i have complete series.

watched whole thing 2 weeks ago in 2 weeks. pretty

PLEASE(w/sugar on top) excuse me if i missed a fact or

two:rolleyes:!
 

Give Me 3ft.

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& your last 2 post were 3 sentences of my previous

post. way to pick it apart, especially when disreguarding

everything else!:rolleyes:.
 

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Stringer's problem was he tried to civilize too many things. U can't cicilize the drug game, cuz its too many players to do so. Its a cold, unforgiving world in the drug trade so the mental capacity to have to concentrate on legal matters and trying to civilize the drug trade doesn't exist. Drug game is full of wild cards
 

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there are TWO flaws of inconsistency with this near perfect show.

one of them involves what you have mentioned above.

listen to stringer's philosophy in season ONE on selling "shit" then compare it to his philosophy on selling "shit" after proposition joe's package. this is a wild fluctuation in philosophy that story editors allowed to slip through.

to make it plain (since people dramatically overlook season ONE), stringer himself discounted the importance of the quality of the product.

There is no flaw. No inconsistency.

Stringer changed his mind on the importance of the quality of the product after seeing his numbers drop. Any half-wit would. Numbers dont lie. In business, any business, wild changes in philosophies are common specially after numbers slap you in your face.

As a side note, I find it kinda funny that you just "decided" that this change was a flaw that editors let slip through. Maybe you are a little too invested in this discussion. Just saying...
 
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Djmarkxr7

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There is no flaw. No inconsistency.

Stringer changed his mind on the importance of the quality of the product after seeing his numbers drop. Any half-wit would. Numbers dont lie. In business, any business, wild changes in philosophies are common specially after numbers slap you in your face.

As a side note, I find it kinda funny that you just "decided" that this change was a flaw that editors let slip through. Maybe you are a little too invested in this discussion. Just saying...

EXACTLY!!!

CRANRAB, remember that they ran out of product @ the beginning of season 2 which started with Bodie picking up the vehicle that was supposed to have the new package in it but didn't.

Avon then provided a connect from Atlanta which the writers painstakingly showed time and time again that their product was extremely weak and already stepped on.

Stringer wasn't about to take a short on any money so he told his people to continue to step on it more.

@ the towers and the low-rises they showed again and again that not only was there no traffic but even showed one fiend catch a beatdown from Poot's people because he WOULD NOT BUY FROM BARKSDALE'S PRODUCT!!!

Stringer made the point in season 1 that when the product is weak the 'heads buy twice as much, just what do you think your next move has to be WHEN THEY DON'T BUY @ ALL???

If it was such a mistake, why is it that Avon finally came around @ the end of season 2 AND TOLD STRINGER TO MAKE A DEAL WITH PROP JOE?!?


killing deangelo
getting the crew off the phones
cofounding new-day co op

Stringer technically made no mistakes in season 1, even though he took the blame for Little Man Avon himself acknowledged that that was Little Man's fuck-up.
 

Djmarkxr7

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which remains to this day, nothing more than your SPECULATION.

no evidence, no proof other than he (stringer) was merely there. you are attributing a measure of barksdale success to stringer bell simply because he was in the mix. not based on anything in the show, but solely because "he was there".

i demand more evidence. and as always, none is forthcoming.

i'm not suggesting your position is outlandish, rather that it is wholly unsupported by evidence or details presented within the show. in fact, i see how someone could occupy your position, but i would still assert it is flawed.

Okay, let's not get anything twisted, I am NOT in any way suggesting that Avon couldn't have gotten where he was without Stringer, rather that David Simon presented us the story WITH Stringer squarely in place as Avon's #2 and almost a full partner as evidenced in the way they related to each other, Avon's complete and total trust in Stringer (didn't bat an eye or suspect Stringer when Stringer wasn't arrested and in fact, didn't spend a single day behind bars while on the show) and B+B Enterprises, THEIR joint business venture together.

We are shown/told that THEY as a group including Wee-Bay, Stink'um, D'Angelo, etc., have been together and have successfully run the drug trade in the towers and the low rises for @ least a year, all of this is indisputable!

We are shown that mistakes are also dealt with as well, hence D'Angelo being demoted down to the low rises due to his shooting incident which ultimately led to the downfall of the Barksdale organization.

Care to dispute that?!?

You are continually going out of your way to bring Stringer down while EVERY character in the series had flaws.

How about D'Angelo going against the very words that he told Wallace, "If anybody asks you whether you're in this game you tell them you're in it for life...YOU MAKE SURE NI**AS KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA STAND BY YOU'RE PEOPLE, No loose talk, no second thoughts, no snitchin'!"

He then went on to not only dis Avon (Avon going so far as to tell Stringer "Whatever happens, happens!" about D) but made Stringer worry about him (WHAT ABOUT WALLACE?!?!?"), snitched on Wee-Bay's whereabouts in Philly, and told his Mother to tell Avon and Donnette, his baby momma, to just "Leave me be!"

I (and most others on the board) find it amusing that while Stringer was shown several times to be ignorant as to the ways of the street (asking Brother Mouzone who shot him and okaying the hit on Omar while with his "Maw Maw" on Sunday morning) his importance and standing in the Barksdale organization is ONLY questioned by you and not ANY of the other members of the organization, the rival drug dealers, nor the police.

Just admit that you've singled-out Stringer to hate in the series and we all can move on!
 
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Djmarkxr7

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sadly, it is apparent that many here don't watch the show well enough. i'm not going to recommend people watch the show any longer, because it's pretty obvious at this point that some don't have the capacity to understand what is being depicted.

both times avon barksdale was arrested, IT WAS BECAUSE OF STRINGER BELL'S INCOMPETENCE.

and i'm NOT referring to the snitching.

ask yourself why was major crimes able to capture a conversation between avon and d'angelo in a face to face at orlando's? whose DUMB ASS idea was that?

Wrong, just wrong!

Almost ALL of the convos that Avon had with everyone, and that was mostly Stringer, was in that backroom @ Orlando's, the cops first tried wires to catch Avon, then resorted to getting Shardeen to get info, then resorted to putting a wire on her, and when ALL of that failed they placed a camera and mic in Orlando's.

THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH STRINGER "BUILDING A WALL AROUND AVON, the wall was solely for his protection against Omar, who ad unsuccessfully tried to murk him using Wee-Bay's pager code.

NO discussions were held over the phone or in vehicles!!!


ask yourself how major crimes was able to secure a warrant for avon at the stash house? i'll even make it plain for you: it was because DUMB ASS stringer bell put avon's government on it.

HERE IS WHERE YOU TRULY GET BUSTED, AVON'S NAME WAS NOT, I REPEAT NOT ON THE SAFEHOUSE WHERE MCNULTY ARRESTED HIM!!!

His name was ONLY on the condo, Stringer used that info just to prove he had intimate info on Avon, nothing more.

Avon was arrested solely on a parole violation, PERIOD!!!


it's amazing to read so many (what must be children) on BGOL talk about how smooth stringer was with his, putting shit in his name and all that. THOSE WERE THE DUMBEST THINGS HE EVER COULD'VE DONE.

creating paper trails, drawing attention to yourself with UNEXPLAINED WEALTH, assets not commensurate with income: i try to give some of you some room for growth, but you can lead a horse to water...

it's clear that some viewers have a romantic infatuation with what they believe stringer bell represents. too bad.

B+B Enterprises was the name on properties that they owned and none of those properties had any drug ties.

Avon was only charged for the coke they got from stopping D'angelo and later on a parole violation.

Since Stringer's name was everywhere else along with Avon's, why wasn't he arrested?
 

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I've watched the complete series a couple of times and now I'm watching The Shield for the first time. While watching The Shield I can't help but think why didn't The Wire have any true "dirty cop" story lines. We only hear of Daniels being dirty during his days in the DEU. We see Carver and the white boy snatch up some cash in season one, the grand jury who sold documents to Levy....and then there is Officer Walker who is more of and asshole than being "dirty". I'm surprised the Barksdale organization with all their connections in the first couple of seasons didn't have a couple uniforms on the payroll.
 

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How did Wallace and Poot end up taking care of and living with the young kids.

Was Bubs sharing needles w/ the witeboy after he found out he had HIV?

Michael K Williams is a hell of an actor.
 
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which episode is this? I saw the scene at pigeon coop but did somebody splice the next scene in from another episode? First time I saw Snoop was at the hardware store buying the nail gun.
 

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which episode is this? I saw the scene at pigeon coop but did somebody splice the next scene in from another episode? First time I saw Snoop was at the hardware store buying the nail gun.


This driveby was season 3 i think. Not sure which ep. Im not convinced that it was really her on that bike either. Stunt double maybe. The classic Home Depot scene was the opening to season 4.
 

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which episode is this? I saw the scene at pigeon coop but did somebody splice the next scene in from another episode? First time I saw Snoop was at the hardware store buying the nail gun.


I'm not home to look up the exact episode, but I could see from the very end of the clip that that's Brother Mouzone's car pulling up in B'more for the first time, so that should be near the end of Season 2.

Snoop is seen once or twice before picking up the nail gun just listening to Marlo and Chris, she doesn't speak.
 

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which episode is this? I saw the scene at pigeon coop but did somebody splice the next scene in from another episode? First time I saw Snoop was at the hardware store buying the nail gun.


That was near the end of Season 3. I think that was the same episode they shot Avon in the arm because Avon and Marlo were battling for corners. So probably 3rd or 4th episode from the end of Season 3.

Correction: Yeah that was a mash-up. Snoop killed that guy with Poot in episode 7, season 3. The scene where Snoop was like "get in the truck" was the beginning of episode 9, season 3.
 
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