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what difference does that make? How did avon get his connections? Did he approach the Colombians or did they approach him? Was it grandfathered in when he took over the organization from his uncles or whatever relative was running it before him? Does it really matter? If it does then you would have to establish how avon got his connections to make a fair comparison.

that makes a huge difference. you're trying to give him credit for finding something when he didn't find it, it fell into his lap and he took the opportunity. that's a huge difference. you're portraying it as if stringer had the insight to put that together and he went out and made it happen, when he didn't make it happen.

prop made it happen and then stringer not being an idiot, recognized it was a good idea and went ahead with it. he ain't map it out and somehow get over on prop joe like people are trying to make it seem.


Avons connections were grandfathered in to him because of the legacy his family had HOWEVER it was him being who he was that kept those connections strong. You have to remember, Avon didn't get locked up like a regular drug dealer. There was a police murder attached, a long time assassin (wee-bay) and also a large wiretap that was all reported for all to see, this is why his connects went away, because it was feared that they would go down with him with everything.

Avon had reputation though on his own, he just continued and lived up to the barksdale name. He could reach out to the brother because of how he carried himself and he alone.

Avon established himself. They would call him by first name not last name.

Avon simply didn't get enough time to find a new connect to get everything straight. Stringer already made the deal. off the strength of his reputation Avon got the brother down there to protect the turf on severely short notice..
 

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Well what time did he give him? Everybody is acting like the supply problem was a permanent one and the Barksdale organization could not withstand a temporary problem with supply. The problem is not that he did a deal with Prop Joe it is all he had to give up make the deal. Not only did he have to give up some of the Towers he also had to sabotage the good muscle he had. I have heard cats before say that season 2 was the worst and was not necessary and I see it different in that season 2 laid the groundwork in explaining how season 3 came to pass for the Barksdale organization.

The supply problem was twofold, not only were they getting already stepped on garbage from Atlanta, Prop Joe's supply was top notch, the writers beat us, the viewers, over the head with this, from Stringer observing the crackheads not only crossing the parkway from Westside to Eastside, but actually walking past his dealers, one even catching a beatdown for doing such, to Stringer going to his "cutting house" and his guy telling him the stuff was garbage and String telling him to step on the shit anyway.

This was a far cry from the convo he and D had from Season 1 in which String himself pointed out that everybody has shit product, and when it gets that way you just sell twice as much.

While I agree it's not a move Avon would've made, unless Avon was prepared to lose A LOT of money financing his crew and his muscle, he would've eventually come around to the same conclusion as Stringer, BUT he DEFINITELY wouldn't have given up as much!
 

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When Avon was in jail Stringer was by himself, but that's not the point, as I alluded to with Fredo in "The Godfather", his family was always around and he STILL got disrespected, remember even his own family NEVER put him in charge of anything important, meanwhile as I said earlier in Season 1 EVERYTHING had to go thru Stringer, on top of that most decisions were made jointly by Stringer and Avon, NO OTHER CREW HAD THIS TYPE OF DYNAMIC, Prop Joe made his own decisions and Marlo mainly used Chris as a sounding board to cosign his ideas.

But you're still not getting it a little bit. You're comparing it to the godfather and stuff but this wasn't the godfather this wasn't fredo this was stringer, but more importantly this was Avon. Avon was not letting/ allowing ANY of that towards stringer. NONE of it. He was never by himself, Avon was in jail but still ran everything as far as everyone on the outside was concerned. Avon was not allowing anyone to disrespect Stringer, and they knew avon could reach them.


Even when Avon was in jail Prop Joe and the others in the Co-op and members of the Barksdale crew still showed respect and in some cases fear (the meetings in the funeral parlor) of Stringer, people in the streets know who the real deal is, did you see ANYONE give respect to Ziggy, even though they knew his cousin had his back, that same cousin that was NEVER disrespected not once?!?


You're still not seeing how this is related to Avon lol.
Who did Ziggy have behind him that people on the streets should actually fear? His uncle and cousin weren't heavy, shit they couldn't even get Ziggy car back by themselves they had to get their greek connects to make the brothers respect them in the street remember? So who had Ziggy back in the streets that pumped fear? NOBODY



Ask yourself this question. How many times did Stringer tell someone to do something or ask someone to do something or suggest someone to do something be it someone in the crew, or someone outside the crew.. and they ask " Did you run it by Avon?"

When stringer used the d.c. connect to setup d'angelo killing what did dude ask him? "Did you run this by Avon?"

Now ask yourself, how many times when Avon made a decision, told someone do to something or anything of the sort did anyone ever even attempt to utter "Did you run that by String?"



We are also shown how Avon deals with screw-ups, from demoting D'Angelo to the low-rises for catching a case to murking the kid who actually shot Griggs, if Avon felt that Stringer was soft or a screw-up he wouldn't have been a #2 as he was, Avon understood that image was everything, if the guy that reps him is soft/stupid, then, as Avon would say, "How that look?!?"

Not entirely, Looking soft/stupid is something never did because he had no reason to, his best friend is the man, and when that's the case its easy to act like the man cause you know you have the ultimate to have your back.. why is it when shit got real Avon came right out and said He was soft and wasn't built for this game... and Stringer had to tell him about Dangelo cause Avon called him a punk..which is basically how he really felt about him all this time. He was a punk, BUT that's his brother and nobody fucks with his brother right?

and I quote

Avon

You know the difference between me and you? I bleed red and you bleed green..... I look at you these days, String, you know what I see? I see a man without a country. Not hard enough for this right here and maybe, just maybe, not smart enough for them out there......No offense but I don't ever really think you were



Soft people, regardless of who's got their back, are still soft and are treated and spoken of as such, outside of Marlo, who didn't give a fuck about anyone, can you name one person that mentioned or acted as if Stringer were soft?

String was never in a position to prove whether he was soft or not on the street level PERIOD. he was never in harms way. So who knows how he handles himself in those situations. Avon was a leader and a soldier and that's why his people loved him, because they know he loved them too. and who would dare say anything about stringer when Avon is always lurking about?
 

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that makes a huge difference. you're trying to give him credit for finding something when he didn't find it, it fell into his lap and he took the opportunity. that's a huge difference. you're portraying it as if stringer had the insight to put that together and he went out and made it happen, when he didn't make it happen.

prop made it happen and then stringer not being an idiot, recognized it was a good idea and went ahead with it. he ain't map it out and somehow get over on prop joe like people are trying to make it seem.


Avons connections were grandfathered in to him because of the legacy his family had HOWEVER it was him being who he was that kept those connections strong. You have to remember, Avon didn't get locked up like a regular drug dealer. There was a police murder attached, a long time assassin (wee-bay) and also a large wiretap that was all reported for all to see, this is why his connects went away, because it was feared that they would go down with him with everything.

Avon had reputation though on his own, he just continued and lived up to the barksdale name. He could reach out to the brother because of how he carried himself and he alone.

Avon established himself. They would call him by first name not last name.

Avon simply didn't get enough time to find a new connect to get everything straight. Stringer already made the deal. off the strength of his reputation Avon got the brother down there to protect the turf on severely short notice..

Make no mistake, while Avon's rep was no joke, Brother came down because he was getting paid, but I will admit that Brother wouldn't have come down for just anybody!!!

Peeps keep saying that Stringer didn't give Avon enough time to get a new connect, does anyone remember that from the episode where Bodie picks up the empty car till Stringer makes the deal with Prop Joe, seven episodes have passed?!?
 

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Make no mistake, while Avon's rep was no joke, Brother came down because he was getting paid, but I will admit that Brother wouldn't have come down for just anybody!!!

Peeps keep saying that Stringer didn't give Avon enough time to get a new connect, does anyone remember that from the episode where Bodie picks up the empty car till Stringer makes the deal with Prop Joe, seven episodes have passed?!?

7 episodes doesn't correlate to actual time passed though. Couldn't have been more than a couple weeks and the deal was struck.
And i don't really have a problem with the deal that was made. but don't act like stringer set it up and don't act like avon couldn't have come up with a connect.
And as far as the brother goes the money is nothing. you need a reputation in order to get someone of his caliber to represent you on the street.
 

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But you're still not getting it a little bit. You're comparing it to the godfather and stuff but this wasn't the godfather this wasn't fredo this was stringer, but more importantly this was Avon. Avon was not letting/ allowing ANY of that towards stringer. NONE of it. He was never by himself, Avon was in jail but still ran everything as far as everyone on the outside was concerned. Avon was not allowing anyone to disrespect Stringer, and they knew avon could reach them.

I understand that Avon was the power and the name, what I'm saying is that no one disrespected Stringer, either to his face or even behind his back, the people who were soft in the show got disrespected.


You're still not seeing how this is related to Avon lol.
Who did Ziggy have behind him that people on the streets should actually fear? His uncle and cousin weren't heavy, shit they couldn't even get Ziggy car back by themselves they had to get their greek connects to make the brothers respect them in the street remember? So who had Ziggy back in the streets that pumped fear? NOBODY

The fact that Nick could go to the Greeks was my point, could Ziggy have gone to them on his own?

No.

Remember the White kid that shorted Ziggy causing his car to get taken, did that EVER happen to Nick when he started dealing?

No.




Ask yourself this question. How many times did Stringer tell someone to do something or ask someone to do something or suggest someone to do something be it someone in the crew, or someone outside the crew.. and they ask " Did you run it by Avon?"

When stringer used the d.c. connect to setup d'angelo killing what did dude ask him? "Did you run this by Avon?"

Now ask yourself, how many times when Avon made a decision, told someone do to something or anything of the sort did anyone ever even attempt to utter "Did you run that by String?"


LOL, of course not, Avon was the boss and Stringer was #2, no disputing that, but how many people had conversations with either Chris or Cheese about getting their own territory like the convo Stringer first had with one of their people, and then ran it by Avon, giving the guy his blessing, in Season 1?


Not entirely, Looking soft/stupid is something never did because he had no reason to, his best friend is the man, and when that's the case its easy to act like the man cause you know you have the ultimate to have your back.. why is it when shit got real Avon came right out and said He was soft and wasn't built for this game... and Stringer had to tell him about Dangelo cause Avon called him a punk..which is basically how he really felt about him all this time. He was a punk, BUT that's his brother and nobody fucks with his brother right?

and I quote Avon

True, but this is AFTER they've started to grow apart, which actually begins when Avon went to jail, this also comes AFTER the scene where Avon gets out of jail and is talking about "his corners" (with String and Slim Charles), later he says "So?" to Stringer who then says, and I quote, "You know if you call the shot we at war, we at war and I'm there like I ALWAYS been!"

Why didn't Avon call him out then?

My contention is that Stringer was good to go in Season 1, yes this is when he didn't make any big decisions on his own, I understand, all I am saying is that the writers showed us the changes that happened, that Avon & Stringer were Yin & Yang to each other until they were separated by prison, that's when the division began and they never looked back, the Barksdale organization became two groups, Avon & Slim Charles on one side and Stringer and Shamrock the other, BOTH made mistakes from their not working together, Stringer giving up hard-earned territory too easy, Avon trying to keep that same territory too hard, to the point of stupidity of being on parole in a safehouse full of guns and ex-cons

They BOTH spiraled downwards, Stringer's spiral cost him his life, Avon's his freedom.





String was never in a position to prove whether he was soft or not on the street level PERIOD. he was never in harms way. So who knows how he handles himself in those situations. Avon was a leader and a soldier and that's why his people loved him, because they know he loved them too. and who would dare say anything about stringer when Avon is always lurking about?

With all of my references I'm not referring to something actually being done like beating up or killing someone, I'm just talking about just normal sizing up of people, you could talk to Poot and know where his head was, Bodie, D'Angelo, Wallace, Mike, Chris, Snoop, etc., you can pick and choose who's hard and soft not from the bodies they've put down but from simply how they respond or act when spoken to, you know you can roll with Bodie if something goes down, you know that you'd end up shooting Ziggy if he ever came near you again, that's what I mean about respect @ the street level, it's not what you do but how you carry yourself!
 

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7 episodes doesn't correlate to actual time passed though. Couldn't have been more than a couple weeks and the deal was struck.
And i don't really have a problem with the deal that was made. but don't act like stringer set it up and don't act like avon couldn't have come up with a connect.
And as far as the brother goes the money is nothing. you need a reputation in order to get someone of his caliber to represent you on the street.

That's the point though, weeks did indeed go by, to the point that they were losing people, this is where the writers actually took things to the absurd, drug dealers laying people off?!?

Beating people up because they didn't want to buy from you?!?

Because of Avon's situation HE COULDN'T COME UP WITH A CONNECT, it wasn't being in jail that stopped him, it was what he was in jail for!

I CAN act like Avon couldn't come up with a connect BECAUSE HE COULDN'T, isn't that why he eventually gave Stringer his blessing?!?

As far as Brother I acknowledge that, but don't get it twisted, dude didn't come down for his health, if Avon didn't pay BIG $$$ Brother wasn't playing!
 

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I understand that Avon was the power and the name, what I'm saying is that no one disrespected Stringer, either to his face or even behind his back, the people who were soft in the show got disrespected.

Not all the people who were soft. But like i said, nobody would disrespect stringer because if you did it was like disrespecting Avon..and that wasn't happening.





The fact that Nick could go to the Greeks was my point, could Ziggy have gone to them on his own?

No.

Remember the White kid that shorted Ziggy causing his car to get taken, did that EVER happen to Nick when he started dealing?

No.



No nick could go to the greeks because he was their dock connect. That's why. Ziggy wasn't connected, like i said its a different comparison altogether. Ziggy was a noob. We don't know how things were when string was a noob. Also ziggy was a goodball, stringer didn't carry himself like a goofball when we pick up on his life. Ziggy didn't even really get into the game he just pretended and for a short time. But like i said in the streets they didn't respect Nick either. and by the streets i mean the black people. Those white kids respected nick. When they went to the hood with the black people what happened?



LOL, of course not, Avon was the boss and Stringer was #2, no disputing that, but how many people had conversations with either Chris or Cheese about getting their own territory like the convo Stringer first had with one of their people, and then ran it by Avon, giving the guy his blessing, in Season 1?

Cheese had no power. so he's out of the whole conversation. Chris was a soldier and adviser to Marlo only he didn't talk to anyone period so there were no conversations to be had.


True, but this is AFTER they've started to grow apart, which actually begins when Avon went to jail, this also comes AFTER the scene where Avon gets out of jail and is talking about "his corners" (with String and Slim Charles), later he says "So?" to Stringer who then says, and I quote, "You know if you call the shot we at war, we at war and I'm there like I ALWAYS been!"


He said it after they started to grow apart this is correct.


Why didn't Avon call him out then?


It wasn't at the breaking point. You've been friends with someone and didn't like something or always thought something but let it slide because the friendship was bigger. When that's gone you can let out how you really felt about them this entire time. That's why he said the part about I don't think you ever was... meaning I've known this all these years but you're my brother so i let that shit slide and attached my name to you so that nobody could fuck with you. Like how Mike did to dookie. Dookie was getting picked on UNTIL mike let it be known you fuck with dookie you fuck with him...and after that it CEASED.


My contention is that Stringer was good to go in Season 1, yes this is when he didn't make any big decisions on his own, I understand, all I am saying is that the writers showed us the changes that happened, that Avon & Stringer were Yin & Yang to each other until they were separated by prison, that's when the division began and they never looked back, the Barksdale organization became two groups, Avon & Slim Charles on one side and Stringer and Shamrock the other, BOTH made mistakes from their not working together, Stringer giving up hard-earned territory too easy, Avon trying to keep that same territory too hard, to the point of stupidity of being on parole in a safehouse full of guns and ex-cons


Stringer made the Orlando mistake which brought all the heat down on the whole organization in season 1

They BOTH spiraled downwards, Stringer's spiral cost him his life, Avon's his freedom.

they did.



With all of my references I'm not referring to something actually being done like beating up or killing someone, I'm just talking about just normal sizing up of people, you could talk to Poot and know where his head was, Bodie, D'Angelo, Wallace, Mike, Chris, Snoop, etc., you can pick and choose who's hard and soft not from the bodies they've put down but from simply how they respond or act when spoken to, you know you can roll with Bodie if something goes down, you know that you'd end up shooting Ziggy if he ever came near you again, that's what I mean about respect @ the street level, it's not what you do but how you carry yourself!

but like i said, its easy to pretend when you roll with the dude that everybody scared of. how many yes men act like tough guys and carry themselves as tough even though they don't really hold no weight?
Poot never wanted to be in the game, he was just hanging with bodie. Ziggy was always a goofball that's just his personality. Chris and snoop were actual killers though, their rep carried everything. Mike was built for the game. Stringer was built to play the role he played, however don't confuse him for knowing or following the rules or not being a snake about it. that's the fundamental difference. Avon played it straight up. String brought that snake shit into situation and violated codes and other shit, but not even on some I dont give a fuck about anything im crazy shit, but on some Im gonna outsmart everyone, but im not really outsmarting anyone tip.

Marlo ain't give a fuck
Avon played it straight
String schemed and violated
 

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That's the point though, weeks did indeed go by, to the point that they were losing people, this is where the writers actually took things to the absurd, drug dealers laying people off?!?

Beating people up because they didn't want to buy from you?!?

Because of Avon's situation HE COULDN'T COME UP WITH A CONNECT, it wasn't being in jail that stopped him, it was what he was in jail for!

I CAN act like Avon couldn't come up with a connect BECAUSE HE COULDN'T, isn't that why he eventually gave Stringer his blessing?!?

As far as Brother I acknowledge that, but don't get it twisted, dude didn't come down for his health, if Avon didn't pay BIG $$$ Brother wasn't playing!

So you're gonna say that Avon couldn't eventually come up with a connect? lol

Avon could've come up with a connect he brought the brother down there to buy him time to get his shit together in order to find one. If it was hopeless as you say...then he wouldn't have brought the brother down there in the first place he would've told string man you gotta do something.

Prop came to them with the deal and they took it, and i never said i was against the deal i was against the ideal that Avon couldn't.

The brother don't need money though that's the larger point. With him its respect and principles and then the money. He would have given the money back to a person like Stringer off of principle he isn't playing the game foul and he won't be associated with it, which is how he laid it out to Avon and avon had absolutely no choice.
 

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So you're gonna say that Avon couldn't eventually come up with a connect? lol

Avon could've come up with a connect he brought the brother down there to buy him time to get his shit together in order to find one. If it was hopeless as you say...then he wouldn't have brought the brother down there in the first place he would've told string man you gotta do something.

Prop came to them with the deal and they took it, and i never said i was against the deal i was against the ideal that Avon couldn't.

The brother don't need money though that's the larger point. With him its respect and principles and then the money. He would have given the money back to a person like Stringer off of principle he isn't playing the game foul and he won't be associated with it, which is how he laid it out to Avon and avon had absolutely no choice.


On the one hand its really silly to have this debate because the show went the way it did so that certain things can play out in certain ways.

In a real world scenario avon would have found a supplier eventually..gotten out of jail..stopped prop joes supply and that would have effectively killed the idea of a co-op.

But the way the show played out avon never found that supplier so they had to deal with joe in any case.

if he did post a link to the episode where avon tells string he has a new supplier..
 

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On the one hand its really silly to have this debate because the show went the way it did so that certain things can play out in certain ways.

In a real world scenario avon would have found a supplier eventually..gotten out of jail..stopped prop joes supply and that would have effectively killed the idea of a co-op.

But the way the show played out avon never found that supplier so they had to deal with joe in any case.

if he did post a link to the episode where avon tells string he has a new supplier..

its silly to say he couldn't.
it isn't silly to question time and it isn't silly to point out prop joe put everything together.

avon did not get a supply in time
joe was the deal, it happened and i never said it was a bad deal or i was against it.
just the notion that avon couldn't..like he never could eventually, is silly.
 

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its silly to say he couldn't.
it isn't silly to question time and it isn't silly to point out prop joe put everything together.

avon did not get a supply in time
joe was the deal, it happened and i never said it was a bad deal or i was against it.
just the notion that avon couldn't..like he never could eventually, is silly.

don't get me wrong I like the speculation its just that certain things played out the way it did to purposefully box stringer in. And I don't think anyone is acting like avon couldn't get a connect ever..its that he didn't and so that justifies the move string took.
 

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Watching this shit again I gotta say that my favorite episode is Season 1 episode 11, The hunt after Kima got shot.

Rawls: "Listen to me, you fuck. You did a lot of shit here. You played a lot of fucking cards. And you made a lot of fucking people do a lot of fucking things they didn't want to do. This is true. We both know this is true. You, McNulty, are a gaping asshole. We both know this. Fuck if everybody in CID doesn't know it. But fuck if I'm gonna stand here and say you did a single fucking thing to get a police shot. You did not do this, you fucking hear me? This is not on you. [McNulty nods] No it isn't, asshole. Believe it or not, everything isn't about you. And the motherfucker saying this, he hates your guts, McNulty. So you know if it was on you, I'd be the son of a bitch to say so. Shit went bad. She took two for the company. That's the only lesson here."

That and how Freemon took charge at the scene and told the boys, no, made the boys go back to work because he knew that that is where and how they'd catch the dudes who shot Kima.

Shit, how Rawls took charge at the scene where it was a clusterfuge and told everybody who wasn't a part of it to take their useless asses home. I didn't like that motherfucker, but he was right on there because all those chiefs not a damned one of them took charge, they all just wandered around like indians. He grabbed the bull by the horns.

How Freemon picked the can?

I fucking love this show.
 
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damn...it just hit me that stringer's "it's business" motto is straight out the godfather
 

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Watching this shit again I gotta say that my favorite episode is Season 1 episode 11, The hunt after Kima got shot.

Rawls: "Listen to me, you fuck. You did a lot of shit here. You played a lot of fucking cards. And you made a lot of fucking people do a lot of fucking things they didn't want to do. This is true. We both know this is true. You, McNulty, are a gaping asshole. We both know this. Fuck if everybody in CID doesn't know it. But fuck if I'm gonna stand here and say you did a single fucking thing to get a police shot. You did not do this, you fucking hear me? This is not on you. [McNulty nods] No it isn't, asshole. Believe it or not, everything isn't about you. And the motherfucker saying this, he hates your guts, McNulty. So you know if it was on you, I'd be the son of a bitch to say so. Shit went bad. She took two for the company. That's the only lesson here."

That and how Freemon took charge at the scene and told the boys, no, made the boys go back to work because he knew that that is where and how they'd catch the dudes who shot Kima.

Shit, how Rawls took charge at the scene where it was a clusterfuge and told everybody who wasn't a part of it to take their useless asses home. I didn't like that motherfucker, but he was right on there because all those chiefs not a damned one of them took charge, they all just wandered around like indians. He grabbed the bull by the horns.

How Freemon picked the can?

I fucking love this show.

same here bruh
I started watching the 1st season again over the weekend
This is the 5th time I am watching the WIRE from beginning to
end.
I observe something new everytime

I often wondered in episode 12 on how that safe got in Avon's
office upstairs in Orlandos club. Before he got arrested
he wanted the safe to be removed but couldnt :lol:
best tv show ever.
:yes:
 
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same here bruh
I started watching the 1st season again over the weekend
This is the 5th time I am watching the WIRE from beginning to
end.
I observe something new everytime

I often wondered in episode 12 on how that safe got in Avon's
office upstairs in Orlandos club. Before he got arrested
he wanted the safe to be removed but couldnt :lol:
best tv show ever.
:yes:

You probably have to build it inside the building
 

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You probably have to build it inside the building

i was thinking more, the safe was there(1st) &

then they made room(s). the door made was too small for the safe

to fit through. they forgot/failed to measure it(safe), before constructing

room(s) upstairs in the booty joint.
 

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i forgot why marlo smoked that chick devonne that he boned in his SUV.

he killed her in front of her crib but i forgot what she did to cross him.
:dunno:





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barksdale was using her to expose marlo...she arranged a meet in the afternoon...that's when they were supposed to kill him...but marlo flipped the tables...they did the driveby on the jeep after...actually lemme just post the video clip...start @ 3:38...marlo was supposed to meet devonne near that spot but he had snoop do recon and she peeped the shit



i forgot why marlo smoked that chick devonne that he boned in his SUV.

he killed her in front of her crib but i forgot what she did to cross him.
:dunno:





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i forgot why marlo smoked that chick devonne that he boned in his SUV.

he killed her in front of her crib but i forgot what she did to cross him.
:dunno:





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She was sent by Avon to set Marlo up

Once he or one of his crew members peeped game, he waited outside her crib and killed her.

Then later, you see Avon get a phone call and he says "...son of a bitch" or something like that, implying that he was just told Devonne was just killed by Marlo.
 

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yeah but what tipped them off when chris did the driveby and clipped avon?

how did they know she was a prop?
 

LSN

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yeah but what tipped them off when chris did the driveby and clipped avon?

how did they know she was a prop?

bro I posted the clip...start @ 3:38

marlo being who he is and devonne giving the pussy up made him suspicious so he was just cautious when she said to meet up...snoop got hip when she saw one dude order all that food...it was enough to pay attention to...chris then peeped that the car stayed there for a minute w/ no activity until devonne came...she kept looking back @ the car and they threw the garbage out like hey lets get ready to do this...that was enough for chris to act on
 

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bro I posted the clip...start @ 3:38

marlo being who he is and devonne giving the pussy up made him suspicious so he was just cautious when she said to meet up...snoop got hip when she saw one dude order all that food...it was enough to pay attention to...chris then peeped that the car stayed there for a minute w/ no activity until devonne came...she kept looking back @ the car and they threw the garbage out like hey lets get ready to do this...that was enough for chris to act on



got it. :cool:
 

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ya man chris + snoop were a very efficient team...I remember the scenes when they were training michael as I type this...avon's little ghetto ass hood tactics was see-thru for marlo and crew...they paid attention to every little detail (for the most part)...their attachment to michael fucked them over directly and indirectly tho
 

CoTtOnMoUf

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ya man chris + snoop were a very efficient team...I remember the scenes when they were training michael as I type this...avon's little ghetto ass hood tactics was see-thru for marlo and crew...they paid attention to every little detail (for the most part)...their attachment to michael fucked them over directly and indirectly tho

yeah i remember they would peep avon's game a mile away! :yes:

i gotta spend about a week or two and watch the whole series again!

the best shit that ever hit TV imo!
:yes:
 

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yeah i remember they would peep avon's game a mile away! :yes:

i gotta spend about a week or two and watch the whole series again!

the best shit that ever hit TV imo!
:yes:

ya after all the talk about the HD upgrade I been thinking about rewatching the 1st season @ least
 

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yeah i remember they would peep avon's game a mile away! :yes:

i gotta spend about a week or two and watch the whole series again!

the best shit that ever hit TV imo!
:yes:

ya after all the talk about the HD upgrade I been thinking about rewatching the 1st season @ least

Yeah, kickass.so got the entire thing. Downloaded seasons 1,2, & 3. Got 1 & 2 piecemeal, but they got season 3 & 5 as one 16GB compilation file. Will get season 5 tonight and see if they have one link for season 4. You have to convert from mkv to mp4, but other than that it's good to play on PS3. This HD upgrade is the shit
 

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I watched season 3,4,5 over the past three days. Today I'm going to watch season 1 and tomorrow I'm going to watch season 2. I've never watched a more realistic show on TV. It just makes to think back to all the shit I see and have seen on the streets. Damn...smfh
 

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ya man chris + snoop were a very efficient team...I remember the scenes when they were training michael as I type this...avon's little ghetto ass hood tactics was see-thru for marlo and crew...they paid attention to every little detail (for the most part)...their attachment to michael fucked them over directly and indirectly tho

It's because it was alluded to that Chris was in the military, Just straight military training out there.
 

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things to peep.

season 4 in the alternative class they asked one of the 8th graders what they wanted to be. One said pediatric neurosurgeon.
Later bunk and Mcnulty were out and one of bunk's kids said he wanted to be police. The other who was about 7 years old was still in that "pediatric neurosurgeon phase"

Season 4.

When Michael didn't take Marlo's money and they were talking about it. Naymond says "Shit I'll take anybody's money if they offering it" or something like that. Him and Randy Agree


Same episode Clay gets those subpoena's and is in the mayor's office raising hell talking about it's all up in his shit and then he says "You think I got time to ask a man where his money come from and why he giving it? Shit, I'll take any motherfucker's money if he offering it"
 

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things to peep.

season 4 in the alternative class they asked one of the 8th graders what they wanted to be. One said pediatric neurosurgeon.
Later bunk and Mcnulty were out and one of bunk's kids said he wanted to be police. The other who was about 7 years old was still in that "pediatric neurosurgeon phase"

Season 4.

When Michael didn't take Marlo's money and they were talking about it. Naymond says "Shit I'll take anybody's money if they offering it" or something like that. Him and Randy Agree


Same episode Clay gets those subpoena's and is in the mayor's office raising hell talking about it's all up in his shit and then he says "You think I got time to ask a man where his money come from and why he giving it? Shit, I'll take any motherfucker's money if he offering it"

wow...

I'm studying the second season everyone is so divided on again just to see how it holds up.

its that type of layered intricate storytelling that makes me get into damn near fist fights when people try to say it isn't one of the BEST series ever created top to bottom hands down.
 
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