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ansatsusha_gouki

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53 man roster


QB: Peyton Manning, Brock Osweiler

RB: Montee Ball, Ronnie Hillman, C.J. Anderson, Juwan Thompson

WR: Demaryius Thomas, Wes Welker, Emmanuel Sanders, Cody Latimer, Andre Caldwell, Isaiah Burse

OL (interior): Orlando Franklin, Manny Ramirez, Louis Vasquez, Will Montgomery, Ben Garland

OL (tackle): Ryan Clady, Chris Clark, Michael Schofield, Paul Cornick

TE: Julius Thomas, Virgil Green, Jacob Tamme

DT: Terrance Knighton, Sylvester Williams, Marvin Austin, Mitch Unrein

DE: DeMarcus Ware, Derek Wolfe, Malik Jackson, Quanterus Smith

OLB: Von Miller, Danny Trevathan, Brandon Marshall, Lerentee McCray, Corey Nelson

MLB: Nate Irving, Steven Johnson, Lamin Barrow

CB: Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr., Kayvon Webster, Bradley Roby, Omar Bolden, Tony Carter

S: Rahim Moore, T.J. Ward, Quinton Carter, David Bruton

Special Teams: Britton Colquitt, Brandon McManus, Aaron Brewer.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Great win,but what a poor second half performance...:smh::smh::smh::smh:


Receivers was dropping balls,couldn't get consistent pressure and penalties ended drives....I hope they clean that up,because if we do against Seattle...we are going to lose...:hmm::hmm:


Atleast we took the ball away,even though we could of gotten a few more and we didn't turnover the ball...


Next week,will be tough,since we're at home against the Chiefs and from what I've been hearing about the Chiefs rush passers they might not be in the game...
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Kinda wish our game against Seattle was later in the season,so all the people that's coming back would knock the rust off...
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Am I the only one who thinks Fox is a liability.....the lack of killer instinct on this team is mind boggling......I've been saying this for 3 years now,every time we have a huge lead,we allow the opponent to come back...


In the first half,we're attacking on both sides of the ball and the second half we're conservative...or

In the first half,we're conservative and in the second half we're attacking....


Im not expecting the team to blitz or pass on every down,but for whatever reason we go away what's working and allow teams to comeback...
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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So,Eric Decker is rooting against us in every game.....The nerve of him opening up his mouth,after he disappeared in the Superbowl......:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Our third down defense is fucking horrible...we can't stop anybody,we have too many penalties, and lets not forget Fox or Del Rio's 3 man rush.....

I don't understand why we're rushing 3 guys and dropping 8 all the time...makes no sense at all....this is why teams always comeback against us,because Fox or Del Rio is in love with that bullshit scheme...:smh::smh::smh::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:


Also,I understand we need to run the ball alot more,but why are we getting away from our strength.....its almost like they're trying to run the ball,when we should be passing....


For the love of me,get rid of the screen pass....I feel like Im living in the Twilight Zone with the screen pass...I understand its our bread and butter,but why do it 10 times a game...


How come CJ Anderson can run the ball better than Montee....

This team better get with the program,next week or get their asses kicked by Seattle again...:smh::smh::smh::smh:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Our third down defense is fucking horrible...we can't stop anybody,we have too many penalties, and lets not forget Fox or Del Rio's 3 man rush.....

I don't understand why we're rushing 3 guys and dropping 8 all the time...makes no sense at all....this is why teams always comeback against us,because Fox or Del Rio is in love with that bullshit scheme...:smh::smh::smh::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:


Also,I understand we need to run the ball alot more,but why are we getting away from our strength.....its almost like they're trying to run the ball,when we should be passing....


For the love of me,get rid of the screen pass....I feel like Im living in the Twilight Zone with the screen pass...I understand its our bread and butter,but why do it 10 times a game...


How come CJ Anderson can run the ball better than Montee....

This team better get with the program,next week or get their asses kicked by Seattle again...:smh::smh::smh::smh:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Our third down defense is fucking horrible...we can't stop anybody,we have too many penalties, and lets not forget Fox or Del Rio's 3 man rush.....

I don't understand why we're rushing 3 guys and dropping 8 all the time...makes no sense at all....this is why teams always comeback against us,because Fox or Del Rio is in love with that bullshit scheme...:smh::smh::smh::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:


Also,I understand we need to run the ball alot more,but why are we getting away from our strength.....its almost like they're trying to run the ball,when we should be passing....


For the love of me,get rid of the screen pass....I feel like Im living in the Twilight Zone with the screen pass...I understand its our bread and butter,but why do it 10 times a game...


How come CJ Anderson can run the ball better than Montee....

This team better get with the program,next week or get their asses kicked by Seattle again...:smh::smh::smh::smh:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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That was disgusting to watch. :smh: Defense nearly single handedly lost the game for us with all those damn penalties. I'm going into next week with low expectations.

pretty much


I understand the defense is trying to gel,but my goodness....the amount of penalties,third down miscues and etc...its ridiculous..


We had a pick six,but it was called back...:hmm:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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With the Denver Broncos hitting the road to face the Seattle Seahawks, many of us fans are deeply concerned about the mental breakdowns on both offense and defense in the first two week of the NFL season. In the first regular season rematch of Super Bowl opponents in the following year since 1997, this is a huge game for the fans at least. I am sure it is for the players as well, because who doesn't want to get that filthy 35 point taste out of their mouths?

I suppose my problem is how flippant Coach John Fox appears to be about everything. When asked about the discipline of the team today he replied, "Disciplined enough for a second week in a row to get a fourth-down stop to save the game in a one-possession game. So, disciplined enough for that."

That could just be coachspeak and behind closed doors he is addressing the obvious. At least I hope so, otherwise, I could be very annoyed. He also coined a term I've never heard before called "ball-possession defense", which was his way of crediting the defense for playing good defense. I think.

I'm not sure though because the question asked was about the offense having to watch that 10-minute third quarter drive by the Chiefs. To which Fox answers, "That’s ball-possession defense. All 10 minutes with no points. In all seriousness, that team struggled last week on third down. I’d say it’s fair to say, like any very competitive people, they worked very hard at it. Hats off to them for executing like they did today."

Dare I agree and say yes, the Chiefs worked hard all week on third downs.. which means the Broncos must have not given a crap all week to give up the most third and long conversions I've seen since the tail end of the Mike Shanahan era.

Speaking of third downs, what say you Nate Irving?

"Yeah, the offside and letting them complete third-and-longs on us, we have to go back and look at things on film to see where we messed up at."

Good, that is definitely a must. You all let the Chiefs convert 68% of their third downs, which almost lost the game. I'll give you credit though, because the Chiefs were 0/1 on fourth downs and really that was the one that mattered. Thank you Terrance Knighton wherever you are!

DeMarcus Ware appears to like the bend but don't break mentality, but I personally hate it. He used it twice last night in the post-game interviews. The first time was a question about how the defense has fared through the first two games and to which he responded, "It’s a bend-not-break attitude. There were some times where we didn’t play perfect, but it’s a 60-minute game. You always want to be out there and let the defense win those types of games. You don’t want it to be that close. We did what we needed to do to get that ‘W,’ but we didn’t play the game that we wanted to play, but we played a good enough game to win."

Whatever is said, this defense has some work to do before us fans can trust them to get the job done on a consistent basis. Coming up with goal line stands every game to secure victories is something that simply isn't sustainable in the long run.

All that said and complained about, the Chiefs still only scored 7 points in that atrocious second half. This defense is apparently taking this whole "bend but don't break" philosophy to entirely new levels.


http://www.milehighreport.com/2014/9/15/6150249/whats-going-on-with-the-denver-broncos-defense
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Fox gotta go....Im sick of him being conservative on defense...

Ball-control defense...the fuck does that mean......

You bring in DeMarcus Ware,TJ Ward and Aqib Talib and yet you want to play conservative.........:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:


And,when he does blitz its always from the outside,he hardly blitz from the inside...my goodness....

Show some fucking creativity.....:hmm:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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The defense kept this game close.....


Fox gotta go though......He got way too conservative in three quarters....:hmm::hmm:
 

gutsdabeast

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The defense kept this game close.....


Fox gotta go though......He got way too conservative in three quarters....:hmm::hmm:

As long as the team has Peyton Manning. John Fox is safe. But once Peyton retires. John Fox will be exposed & Denver will have to move on. He's coaching this season to not lose. Instead of coaching to win.

His conservatism & Adam Gase's heavy reliance on screen plays will constantly hinder this team. Defense is improved though. When they are aggressive. They put a ton of pressure on offenses.

But they lose containment too often. Mobile QBs will constantly give them issues.

Good fourth quarter though. Too bad they have a bye next week. The team could really use this game to build off of what worked.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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As long as the team has Peyton Manning. John Fox is safe. But once Peyton retires. John Fox will be exposed & Denver will have to move on. He's coaching this season to not lose. Instead of coaching to win.

His conservatism & Adam Gase's heavy reliance on screen plays will constantly hinder this team. Defense is improved though. When they are aggressive. They put a ton of pressure on offenses.

But they lose containment too often. Mobile QBs will constantly give them issues.

Good fourth quarter though. Too bad they have a bye next week. The team could really use this game to build off of what worked.

I understand the screen pass is part of the offense,but you can't do that against the Seahawks defense...but Fox conservative play drives me crazy....my goodness....Got all these weapons on the offense and he's doing draw plays on third and long....:smh::smh::smh:
 

gutsdabeast

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I understand the screen pass is part of the offense,but you can't do that against the Seahawks defense...but Fox conservative play drives me crazy....my goodness....Got all these weapons on the offense and he's doing draw plays on third and long....:smh::smh::smh:

Denver knew what they were getting when they hired him. He hasn't changed since he coached Carolina. I think the team over-compensated.

Going from No-name terrible (refuse to say his name) to Fox. I think the team was scared to hire another No-name terrible. So now the team is ultra conservative.

Team needs a coach like Ron Rivera. Not afraid to take his chances. With Peyton Manning you should be much more aggressive. Put pressure on the opposing teams defense.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Denver knew what they were getting when they hired him. He hasn't changed since he coached Carolina. I think the team over-compensated.

Going from No-name terrible (refuse to say his name) to Fox. I think the team was scared to hire another No-name terrible. So now the team is ultra conservative.

Team needs a coach like Ron Rivera. Not afraid to take his chances. With Peyton Manning you should be much more aggressive. Put pressure on the opposing teams defense.



When Hillman came into the game,the offense was actually moving and Gase,Fox or whoever decides to do a bubble screen on 3rd and 3....I was like .....WTF...

That play killed our momentum

This team need to show some creativity on offense and defense...it looks like the defense is getting better,but still needs work...I would like to see some A-gap blitz,instead of blitzing from the outside all the time...


The words can't describe how shitty the offensive line been for run blocking and when their is a hole,Ball doesn't hit it...

I understand they was concern with Lacy's injury,but they should of took him over Ball....Hell,give CJ Anderson more playing time,because he can see the hole better than Ball


I hope Virgil Green is okay though...if it wasn't for Tamme,we would of lost in the 4th quarter..Emmanuel Sanders was the only receiver who came out to play yesterday

I think Demaryius still haven't got over the death of his grandmother....I think that's why he's been playing shitty,this season so far....or he's injured or something cuz something isn't right with him...:smh::smh::smh:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The plans for the Denver Broncos' defense spent a great deal of time on the drawing board, iPad, desktop monitor or anywhere else plans are constructed these days.

How it would look, who would fill out the depth chart, was at the forefront of what the team's top football decision-maker, John Elway, wanted to get done. And Sunday, when the Broncos face the Arizona Cardinals, the Broncos are expected to have the defense they built on the field for the first time this season.


Linebacker Danny Trevathan, who suffered a fracture at the top of his tibia in an Aug. 12 training camp practice, is on track to return to the lineup against the Cardinals. His return will give the Broncos, for the first time this season, the personnel groupings in the game they hoped to have after their offseason makeover.

"When the season started we had guys coming back (from injuries) like me, Von (Miller), Chris (Harris Jr.), we had some new guys," said safety Rahim Moore. "We've played well, we want to be better, but we've shown what we can do. When we get more consistent in all situations I think people will see what we're about."

Before the season began, Broncos players and defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio said they believed the team could field a top-five defense before all was said and done this season. Then Trevathan was injured while linebacker Miller and cornerback Harris Jr., who are both coming off ACL surgeries, were on a pitch-count of sorts in the early going.

The Broncos also faced Andrew Luck, Alex Smith and Russell Wilson in their first three games. As a result, the Broncos returned from their bye some distance from the league's top five.

The Broncos are 27th in yards allowed per game -- what the NFL uses to statistically rank its defenses -- at 390.7 yards per game while Denver is tied for 13th in points allowed per game, allowing 22.3 per game.

"I think when you have as many new starts as we have it's going to take a little time to build that in-game chemistry it takes," said Broncos head coach John Fox following Monday's practice. "I thought in the first two games, you know, the situations at the end of the game were good learning experiences and character building type of situations, game is on the line. We didn't fare quite as well in Seattle in that same type of situation, in overtime, but I saw growth and I saw us get better."

Rookie cornerback Bradley Roby knocked away a Luck pass on fourth down to close out the Broncos' season-opening win against the Colts while defensive tackle Terrance Knighton knocked down a fourth-down pass attempt by Smith in Week 2 to preserve the win against the Chiefs.

The Broncos, after a hearty defensive effort against the Seahawks, couldn't close the deal in overtime, so while they still have liked much of what they've seen, the team's defense has not been the lock-down group all involved hope it will be.

In Trevathan's absence Brandon Marshall, a third-year player, played in the weak-side linebacker spot. Marshall is tied for the team lead in tackles (29) after three games. And the Broncos, in the loss to the Seahawks, also used their two rookies at the position -- Lamin Barrow and Corey Nelson -- in some situational work on defense.

"I thought Brandon Marshall stepped in and did a real good job," Fox said. "We've got some youth at that position, there were errors made, but all in all, just like our record, I think, two of the situations better than the third. We'll welcome back Danny because he was one of one of our better players and it's good to have him back."

Trevathan, though he was the team's leading tackler last season, hasn't played in a game since the Broncos' loss in Super Bowl XLVIII. He has said he thinks he will "be ready to go, 100 percent, when I get back out there," but the Broncos may work him back up to his usual snap counts as they have with some of the other players returning from injuries. Broncos middle linebacker Nate Irving said Trevathan's return is something "we've all been waiting for."

"He's got tremendous speed and explosion, and those things all ring pretty well when you're getting more experience as he is as a young player," Fox said. "I've just seen him progress every season, really every game."


http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/8987/broncos-ready-for-first-look-at-full-defense
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Im very happy with the win but if we need McManus to kick the game winning field goal...Im turning the TV.....I understand it was 53 yards,but my goodness he hit the crossbar on a 30 something yard field goal.....:smh::smh::smh:

It looks like the defense is gelling ,but need to tighten up just a little though...

The running game was clicking with Hillman and Thompson in...I won't be surprised if they bench Ball and let Hillman start..


Lastly,what the fuck was Fox doing towards the end of the first half...We had 3 timeouts with 1:03 left and we run the ball...what the fuck was that.....:hmm::hmm::angry::angry::angry:


And...props to DT for having a career day.... :cheers:
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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The game shouldn't even been close....we had too many penalties..If we do that against San Francisco and San Diego next week...we're going to lose.....:smh::smh::smh::smh:


And I don't understand why we get conservative when we have a lead....shit been pissing me off for the past two years...:hmm::hmm::hmm::angry::angry::angry:
 

Mastermind2002

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The game shouldn't even been close....we had too many penalties..If we do that against San Francisco and San Diego next week...we're going to lose.....:smh::smh::smh::smh:

The officiating was garbage today and that's the reason why the game was closer than it should've been. Miller and Ware were being held all day and not one holding call on the Jets. The safety non-call. The Refs not spotting the ball correctly on a number of the Broncos drives. Decker pushing off not called. Etc, Etc.


And I don't understand why we get conservative when we have a lead....shit been pissing me off for the past two years...:hmm::hmm::hmm::angry::angry::angry:

This I agree with you on. We need to keep the foot on the gas.
 

ansatsusha_gouki

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Funny how people keep talking about our lack of running game...saying we miss Moreno and yet his ass is out for the year....:rolleyes:
 
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