The Walking Dead: All Seasons (DON'T POST SPOILERS)

tpotda

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If we go with the entire series, wouldn't you guys say Governor had the best leadership skills of anyone?
 

Jay_from_dade

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jesus is a survivor... or carls little girlfriend who needs therapy. shes survivor.

rick is a leader. he would die for the people he leads. he makes very hard decisions based on the impact on his people and lives with the decisions.



if you in his inner circle yeah, this man was quoted saying "I dont have to kill you, you will do something stupid and die anyway"


Not to mention he mimics every villain he ever faced.

Govner got rick willing to just take Alexandria.

Negan got him just taking peoples guns.
 

MurderCity

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better acting and writing

As someone that has followed the comics, this part of the comics is a bit rough too. This part of the show follows the comics pretty close, much closer than the rest of the show has.

The problem is that Robert Kirkman started writing this part of the story right after he started working with writers of the TV show, which changed his writing style. Even if you go back and read the TWD Comic thread in the comic section people started bailing on the comics during this time. The other problem is that Scott Gimple, unlike Frank Darabont doesn't have much interest in doing anything but adapting the source material and not rewriting the parts that are weaker.

During the All Out War Parts 1 and 2 volumes (each volume is 6 comics), which should make up all of the 8th season, the writing improves. What follows AOW (season 9+) is a lot better.



Speaking of Robert Kirkman, one of his other long running comics, Invincible is being turned into a movie by Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg, they brought Preacher from comics to TV last year.
http://411mania.com/movies/seth-rog...-write-and-direct-robert-kirkmans-invincible/

THR reports that Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg are attached to adapt Robert Kirkman’s post-modern superhero comic, Invincible, as a major motion picture for Universal Pictures. Rogen and Goldberg are attached to write, direct and produce the film adaptation of the comic, which first debuted in 2003.

Kirkman is also attached to produce the project via his Skybound Entertainment banner. His Skybound colleagues David Alpert, Bryan Furst and Sean Furst are also attached. The project comes under Skybound’s existing first-look deal with Universal. James Weaver will also produce under Rogen and Goldberg’s Point Grey Banner.

The comic follows a high school teen, Mark Grayson, who happens to have a father who is the most powerful superhero on the planet, Omni-Man. Eventually, Mark inherits his own superpowers and goes on a journey to discover the reality behind protecting the planet and the truth of his father’s lineage.

Speaking on the news, Kirkman stated: “For nearly a decade I’ve had to endure the ‘what about Invincible?’ question as fans have watched The Walking Dead grow into the multi-media monstrosity it has become over the years. The answer was always that we were waiting for the right team to partner with. That team has arrived! The esteemed misters Goldberg and Rogen have proven themselves to be top-notch directors with a keen collective eye for stunning visuals after slumming it by writing hit after juggernaut hit.”

Kirkman added: “Invincible’s surprising, edgy, shocking, and oftentimes blood-soaked story couldn’t be in more capable hands. With the team of Rogen, Goldberg and Universal, I’m very confident this will be another superhero movie, in a long line of superhero movies that continues to prove that it’s a viable, thrilling genre that will keep people coming to the cinema for years to come.”

Rogen and Goldberg weighed in for a joint statement, “No matter how much damage it causes our bodies, minds, and our most intimate relationships with those we love, we will not rest until Invincible is as great a movie as it deserves to be.”

Rogen and Goldberg both co-directed the 2013 hit comedy, This Is the End. They are currently directing and executive producing the Hulu comedy series Future Man.
 

cokely_muhammad

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i want the tiger to not know exactly who to attack.

i want daryl to run out of ammo.

i want negan to at least get a fleshwound as the primary target on a battlefield.

i want carl to do something or die.

I want you to post your hand or admit that you are a cac devil troll! :angry:
 

Jay_from_dade

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i dont remember when he said that quote and im not sure how that plays into leadership.

and alexandria and the guns... the deeper they get into surviving this new world, the more ppl are willing to do things they never woulda have done before. i feel like thats what the whole show is about.

negan rules via fear that he's instilled in his people.
rick rules via respect he's earned w/ his people.

respect > fear

Negan doesn't just rule with fear, he is a provider. He uses fear to keep order. He rules with class-ism.
Eugene only needed to be afraid because of what rick had done, now that they past that Eugene living better than he was before.
 

BenQ

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For one, stop with the pointless back stories. How about we get a black character that doesn't act like a hoe? And why the hell did the tiger attack the goons and not Negan? What was Saschas plan? What if Negan wasnt standing right there, and instead they put the coffin in front of Carl?

Just horrible writing all around. Start with that.
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crossovernegro

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I'd definitely put Rick above Neagan, the Gov., Terminus guy, etc. Rick has his faults, but outside the night the left Herschel's farm, he was never on that I'm the boss, listen to me or else type shit. He never ruled by force, he never ruled by fear; he ruled by example.... Neagan is a strongman dictator, and although they can last a while, maybe a long while, there's always a resistance building and people waiting to take you out... and he has to use force to keep at least some of his people with him.

People ask a lot how Neagan is nin power and why his people haven't killed him.... and given enough time, it would happen, or at least attempts (see Eugene and the original request for that pill). ....but in real life, every day life around the world, Neagan is a reality. Hitler, Saddam, etc. Saddam kept Iraq together like nobody else could or can because everybody was scared shitless of him. Strong leader, but not a good leader.

Ezekial may be Rick's equal as a good leader, and he showed his combat side the other night.



hmm... w/ that being said...

if you can rank leadership on a 1-5 scale w/ 5 being a great leader, where you u rank negan, rick, the king and others?

i'd put rick above negan because he doesnt lead with fear but i would definitely rank negan up there. worst i'd say the coward from the hilltop.
 

crossovernegro

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Nah, because he had to use lies to lead, and he had henchmen. He could be a magnetic personality and was good at getting people to follow him, but once he had them he had to lie about everything. Plus, when it came down to it, his little army bitched out and ran away (first prison attack) and he killed most of them.


If we go with the entire series, wouldn't you guys say Governor had the best leadership skills of anyone?
 

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T-Dog- Dumb ass who can't talk and not even reliable to watch a tied up white man.
Morgan- A mumblemouth crazy dude who was scared to kill anyone and willingly crawled into a white man's cage.
Bob- An alcoholic who fucked fucked with Sasha for weeks but less memorable than a older overweight white dude who fucked with her for a few days.
Ezekiel- OK so far but really a fraud.
Father Gabriel- Hid in his church while everybody he knew died, now he just watches Rick's baby because the white women are occupied with leading and kickin ass.
Tyrese- Got his ass whooped by Rick. Simped over a Mexican. Wasn't even reliable enough to watch a tied up white man while Carol was a woman army.Lost a fair one to skinny ass Rick.
Sasha- Fine as fuck but crying and carrying on over a corny older white dude she was a side piece for a few weeks.
Michone- dark skinned, dreds, but bedwenching for Rick. Lived for years on her own and a ninja but gets ass whooped by an autistic white broad who lived in a Junkyard for years


Meanwhile Carol has saved the day by destroying a whole community.
Maggie is looked up to to be the leader of a community.
Rick leads the crew.
Daryl has heart and kills all kinds of people

Now that I think about it. Whats the non walker bodycount of the black characters on the show?
 

crossovernegro

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Every place eventually falls though. We know Neagan's place is gonna eventually fall, and no doubt, most of his people are gonna turn against him. Even one of his inner circle people (Dwight) is plotting against him. Neagan is the stronger leader, but not the better leader. I think being the better leader has to involve people being with you, following you, without being forced to. Stalin was a stronger leader than FDR, but not a better one, and that's kinda how Neagan/Rick are.

Rick 2, because if you're not in his inner circle you're canon fadder for all he cares. Every place he has run has fallen. Rick is good at teaching you to survive in the wild, but much like a marine when you come home those skills are useless
 

THE DRIZZY

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You are the alliance against Negan and you can only defend 1 front. Which front would you defend?

Alexandria

The Hilltop

The Kingdom



One or two may get destroyed by Negan but one must be kept up and running and able to take in everybody from the other communities.

My pick would be The Kingdom. They have numbers and are resource rich they have cobbler for crying out loud:lol:. The Hilltop does have a strategic location being on a hill. Alexandria has the best walls.
 

ViCiouS

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Now that I think about it. Whats the non walker bodycount of the black characters on the show?
:itsawrap:Morgan and it ain't close
if we look at how far his "clear" phaze went - he might have the highest body count zombie or live of everyone
based on the last ep it looks like that person in some part is back
 

^SpiderMan^

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:itsawrap:Morgan and it ain't close
if we look at how far his "clear" phaze went - he might have the highest body count zombie or live of everyone
based on the last ep it looks like that person in some part is back

Yeah he killed alot of Walkers, but other than that, he killed two innocent people before he met the Aikdo guy. Morgan hasn't really killed too many bad guys.
 

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Mackin Arachnid
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You are the alliance against Negan and you can only defend 1 front. Which front would you defend?

Alexandria

The Hilltop

The Kingdom



One or two may get destroyed by Negan but one must be kept up and running and able to take in everybody from the other communities.

My pick would be The Kingdom. They have numbers and are resource rich they have cobbler for crying out loud:lol:. The Hilltop does have a strategic location being on a hill. Alexandria has the best walls.

Easily Hilltop. They can see for miles so they can't get surprised like they would at other places. They haven't showed much of the Kingdom ,but Alexandria is surrounded by woods. The smart thing for them to do would be to burn the woods all around them so that they could have visibility to shoot . They should also put booby traps in the surrounding woods. Deep holes in the major roadways and fill them with water so it damages enemy transportation.IMO they should attack Negan's compound by using the explosives to destroy the walls and throw Molotov cocktails at it to burn it down and attract Walkers. This wouldn't take much manpower but make them expend alot of ammo.I don't know why they don't use snipers more either.Look how much fear the DC sniper forced. 2 snipers coming intermittently could have Negan's people ducking and hiding and scared to come outside everyday.
 

THE DRIZZY

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Easily Hilltop. They can see for miles so they can't get surprised like they would at other places. They haven't showed much of the Kingdom ,but Alexandria is surrounded by woods. The smart thing for them to do would be to burn the woods all around them so that they could have visibility to shoot . They should also put booby traps in the surrounding woods. Deep holes in the major roadways and fill them with water so it damages enemy transportation.IMO they should attack Negan's compound by using the explosives to destroy the walls and throw Molotov cocktails at it to burn it down and attract Walkers. This wouldn't take much manpower but make them expend alot of ammo.I don't know why they don't use snipers more either.Look how much fear the DC sniper forced. 2 snipers coming intermittently could have Negan's people ducking and hiding and scared to come outside everyday.

Yeah I mentioned the strategic advantage Hilltop has and this is a good pick. Might be the best place to make a stand. The Kingdom from what I seen still seems the most resource rich especially good wise, so that is worth protecting also. Alexandria has proven it could be compromised.
 

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Dannyblueyes

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I just don't understand what more do you all want out of this show?

After Sunday I'd say TWD has gone as far as it can go. It's turned into the same formula Rick n' the Gang wander in the woods, find a new home, get into a beef with a group, lose their home, go back to wandering.

The show survived by making each new rival group bigger or more perverse than the last, but where do you go after Negan?

It featured intense zombie battles, but now those have been done to the point of self parody

It dealt with an intricate universe filled with complex characters, but now they've featured almost every conceivable personality and philosophy.

The universe has become so weighed down by details that the show is now riddled with plot holes (How did the Saviors not notice when the bombs in their zombie trap failed to detonate? How does Ezekiel feed his tiger?)

The only options at this point are to end the show, reinvent it (Killing off Rick would work nicely), or let it sink into an unwatchable ridiculous cash grab. I hope they choose the first option
 

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After Sunday I'd say TWD has gone as far as it can go. It's turned into the same formula Rick n' the Gang wander in the woods, find a new home, get into a beef with a group, lose their home, go back to wandering.

The show survived by making each new rival group bigger or more perverse than the last, but where do you go after Negan?

It featured intense zombie battles, but now those have been done to the point of self parody

It dealt with an intricate universe filled with complex characters, but now they've featured almost every conceivable personality and philosophy.

The universe has become so weighed down by details that the show is now riddled with plot holes (How did the Saviors not notice when the bombs in their zombie trap failed to detonate? How does Ezekiel feed his tiger?)

The only options at this point are to end the show, reinvent it (Killing off Rick would work nicely), or let it sink into an unwatchable ridiculous cash grab. I hope they choose the first option


I get what you are saying,but there are alot of different plots they can make. Are there any governments that were able to survive and looking for survivors? What about internal issues like race?
 

Dannyblueyes

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I get what you are saying,but there are alot of different plots they can make. Are there any governments that were able to survive and looking for survivors? What about internal issues like race?

Considering how the show generally treats Black men I doubt race will be a subject, at least unless white people completely tune out and AMC gets desperate.

The show already showed that the goverment completely collapsed. That's why Dianna, an Ohio congresswoman, ended up at Alexandria in the first place. Any faction that remained would lack the power or resources to conduct any sort of rescue and would just be a slightly more sophisticated version of the hospital crew.
 

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Yeah he killed alot of Walkers, but other than that, he killed two innocent people before he met the Aikdo guy. Morgan hasn't really killed too many bad guys.
I got to watch that episode again - but I don't remember Morgan saying only 2 people - IIRC - according to him he couldn't differentiate between walker and human never mind good or bad until the white boy broke him down
 

ViCiouS

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Considering how the show generally treats Black men I doubt race will be a subject, at least unless white people completely tune out and AMC gets desperate.

The show already showed that the goverment completely collapsed. That's why Dianna, an Ohio congresswoman, ended up at Alexandria in the first place. Any faction that remained would lack the power or resources to conduct any sort of rescue and would just be a slightly more sophisticated version of the hospital crew.
when it really boils down to a basic survival state - racial shit goes out of the window
 

ShortyCumStain

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not soft. just not an asshole. he didn't demand them. he put guns to their heads and told them he was taking their weapons. typical white savage taking from peaceful people. he's no better than negan. hope a few more get hit with the bat before negan gets taken down.

Nigga, fuck that. Zombie apocalypse, I'm takin' everythang. Run me that or die. :dunno:
 
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