THE WRESTLING THREAD: HELL HAS FROZE OVER JOHN CENA HAS GONE FULL HEEL

[Upgrade Dave]

~BORN's RANDOM WRESTLING STUFF #1~

Ted Dibiase was scheduled to win the World Title at WM originally, but WWF changed their plans at the last minute. Literally, a few days before the show.

It all started from the Honky Tonk Man as he refused to lose the IC belt back to Savage(fearing they had nothing planned for him after which they didn't) and threaten to jump to the nwa with it

then Savage went nuts and was promised the title at mania

He was then gonna drop it to Dibiase who would then drop it back to Hogan at mania but the mega powers exploding became a better storyline

Dibiase got screwed by being the only professional

Honky Tonk Man also refused to put over Bret Hart and bad news brown until finally seeing dollar signs in the Ultimate Warrior

Yep. And Vince never let him even sniff another title in the WWF again.
Ted was the runner up to Ric Flair in 81 when the NWA selected a champion to replace Harley Race. Ted Dibiase, always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Same here. I still vaguely remember Ric Flair and Blackjack Mulligan being NWA tag champs and when guys who are retired now just were breaking in, like Terry Taylor.

I grew up in AWA(Gagne, Bobwinkle) territory. Also the AWA was the umbrella promotion for the WWA World Wrestling Association which was an AWA satelite and saw guys like Bobo Brazil, Dick The Bruiser, The Crusher, Ray The Crippler Stevens, and Spike Huber So I grew up on the Gagne's, Nick Bobwinkle, Ken Patera, Baron Von Raske, Jesse Ventura, and Hulk Hogan before he blew up big in WWF in 1984. Speaking of WWF (pre Wrestlemania) I used to catch on WOR station based in Seacaucus NJ and thought they had a great product with the likes of Andre, Bob Backlund, Jimmy Snuka, Rocky Johnson, Don Muraco, Pedro Morales, the Wild Somoans, and the Strongbows. In the early 80's I was hooked on WTBS World Championship Wrestling(formerly Georgia Championship Wrestling) and was extremely geeked when Mid-South got on WTBS, then I used to love visiting my family in Mississippi just to watch Mid-South Wrestling, Also our local channels channels also carried World Class Championship Wrestling(ran by the Von Erich's who controlled east texas and Southwest Championship Wrestling(Jose Lothario) which controlled western texas. I used to buy Pro Wrestling Illustrated back in day as well as other wrestling mags. I used to love Pro Wrestling Illustrated ranking position esecially the Most Hated I was a huge Butch Reed fan and was impressed at how long he stayed # 1 on that list for a stretch of months in 1983 with his heel turn on JYD in Mid South. Easily the best heat for a black heel since Ernie Ladd turned heel in the late 1970's with famous heel turns on Cowboy Bob Ellis(1st heel turn I think) and Dusty Rhodes.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

~Vince McMahon Says He Needs Smackdown To Be The Number 1 Brand~

WrestleZone has exclusively learned that in more than one creative meeting over the past two weeks, WWE Chairman Vince McMahon has informed the writers that he wants Smackdown to be "treated as the number one brand," including opening up the possibility of more trades in order to strengthen the brand.

McMahon feels that a sub-par rating for Smackdown on SyFy would injure WWE's standing with NBC-U, who McMahon is looking to for help in launching the proposed WWE Network. While some on the writing staff are actually trying to come up with scenarios that would include trades or Smackdown getting more exposure (like winning the battle royal tonight on Raw), others on the writing staff have not jumped at this latest "fire alarm" (as a creative team member described it tonight), saying "this is just how Vince reacts to pressure. He says this about all major groups and factions."

Its All About the Moneyyyyyyyyyyyy

So basically, Smackdown's going to win at Bragging Rights. I thought Raw's team looked kinda weak.

 

[kanedagame]

Same here. I still vaguely remember Ric Flair and Blackjack Mulligan being NWA tag champs and when guys who are retired now just were breaking in, like Terry Taylor.

I watched memphis wrestling every saturday after cartoons. at night was some fed with Adrian Street, The Nightmares, Hacksaw Jim Duggan. and in the afternoons is was TBS. Started watching WWE when Saturday Night's main Event started coming on.

 

[c_commander]

When I lived in Chicago it was the WWF and occasionally some NWA. When I moved to Atlanta it became the opposite. I remember there being a block from about 8 to around 2 or 3 in the morning every Saturday night of nothing but wrestling WWF,USWA,etc.

 

[Multi - Personality]

Absolutely true but Flair did it for 30 years. When he came back from the plane crash, fans wanted to cheer and then he cut a heel promo and threw away a bunch of Get Well cards on tv and he was back to being the top heel in Mid Atlantic.

i must see this!!!!

 

[The Pope]

~Vince McMahon Says He Needs Smackdown To Be The Number 1 Brand~

WrestleZone has exclusively learned that in more than one creative meeting over the past two weeks, WWE Chairman Vince McMahon has informed the writers that he wants Smackdown to be "treated as the number one brand," including opening up the possibility of more trades in order to strengthen the brand.

McMahon feels that a sub-par rating for Smackdown on SyFy would injure WWE's standing with NBC-U, who McMahon is looking to for help in launching the proposed WWE Network. While some on the writing staff are actually trying to come up with scenarios that would include trades or Smackdown getting more exposure (like winning the battle royal tonight on Raw), others on the writing staff have not jumped at this latest "fire alarm" (as a creative team member described it tonight), saying "this is just how Vince reacts to pressure. He says this about all major groups and factions."

Its All About the Moneyyyyyyyyyyyy

I'm not suprised by this. When Smackdown was on My Network tv and they were not going to keep it there and instead switch over to SyFy the higher ups basically pulled some of the A listers off Smackdown namely Edge and Jericho and put them on Raw basically giving Smackdown low ratings until the switch to SyFy and now Edge is back and once Jericho returns he will go back as well.If they want Smackdown to be the top show they should have more Raw superstars on there.The Nexus should invade Smackdown as well.If they had a tag-team division it could help Smackdown as well.Who is going to challenge Rhodes and McIntyre ????? Knowing the WWE writers they would probably bring Cryme Tyme back together to feud with them.

 

[SABU]

Neidhart was gonna quit. So they were gonna have Bret go solo but at the 11th hour Neidhart decided to stay.

Also Neidhart had got into some shit around that time for getting arrested on a plane and shit.

 

[SABU]

~BORN's RANDOM WRESTLING STUFF #1~

Ted Dibiase was scheduled to win the World Title at WM originally, but WWF changed their plans at the last minute. Literally, a few days before the show.

It all started from the Honky Tonk Man as he refused to lose the IC belt back to Savage(fearing they had nothing planned for him after which they didn't) and threaten to jump to the nwa with it

then Savage went nuts and was promised the title at mania

He was then gonna drop it to Dibiase who would then drop it back to Hogan at mania but the mega powers exploding became a better storyline

Dibiase got screwed by being the only professional

Honky Tonk Man also refused to put over Bret Hart and bad news brown until finally seeing dollar signs in the Ultimate Warrior

ANd to add Honky Tonk Man actually called up Jim Crocket and was gonna take the belt with him to the NWA but he was on vacation during that time. And finally vince smoothed things out with him but t pissed of Savage and the rest was history

 

[theoriginalgreatone]

so did savage bang steph or what was that all about?

 

[xspade7]

~BORN's RANDOM WRESTLING STUFF #1~

Ted Dibiase was scheduled to win the World Title at WM originally, but WWF changed their plans at the last minute. Literally, a few days before the show.

It all started from the Honky Tonk Man as he refused to lose the IC belt back to Savage(fearing they had nothing planned for him after which they didn't) and threaten to jump to the nwa with it

then Savage went nuts and was promised the title at mania

He was then gonna drop it to Dibiase who would then drop it back to Hogan at mania but the mega powers exploding became a better storyline

Dibiase got screwed by being the only professional

Honky Tonk Man also refused to put over Bret Hart and bad news brown until finally seeing dollar signs in the Ultimate Warrior

Well Dibiase is a former 3-time WWF World Tag Title holder with I.R.S as Money Inc.

 

[c_commander]

so did savage bang steph or what was that all about?

That's the rumor

 

[SABU]

so did savage bang steph or what was that all about?

Still a rumor

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I grew up in AWA(Gagne, Bobwinkle) territory. Also the AWA was the umbrella promotion for the WWA World Wrestling Association which was an AWA satelite and saw guys like Bobo Brazil, Dick The Bruiser, The Crusher, Ray The Crippler Stevens, and Spike Huber So I grew up on the Gagne's, Nick Bobwinkle, Ken Patera, Baron Von Raske, Jesse Ventura, and Hulk Hogan before he blew up big in WWF in 1984. Speaking of WWF (pre Wrestlemania) I used to catch on WOR station based in Seacaucus NJ and thought they had a great product with the likes of Andre, Bob Backlund, Jimmy Snuka, Rocky Johnson, Don Muraco, Pedro Morales, the Wild Somoans, and the Strongbows. In the early 80's I was hooked on WTBS World Championship Wrestling(formerly Georgia Championship Wrestling) and was extremely geeked when Mid-South got on WTBS, then I used to love visiting my family in Mississippi just to watch Mid-South Wrestling, Also our local channels channels also carried World Class Championship Wrestling(ran by the Von Erich's who controlled east texas and Southwest Championship Wrestling(Jose Lothario) which controlled western texas. I used to buy Pro Wrestling Illustrated back in day as well as other wrestling mags. I used to love Pro Wrestling Illustrated ranking position esecially the Most Hated I was a huge Butch Reed fan and was impressed at how long he stayed # 1 on that list for a stretch of months in 1983 with his heel turn on JYD in Mid South. Easily the best heat for a black heel since Ernie Ladd turned heel in the late 1970's with famous heel turns on Cowboy Bob Ellis(1st heel turn I think) and Dusty Rhodes.

Ah man, I used to get PWI every month. I actually had all the centerfolds on an entire wall in my room. I used to get PWI, Inside Wrestling, and The Wrestler.

So basically, Smackdown's going to win at Bragging Rights. I thought Raw's team looked kinda weak.

Even if they have SD win again this year, they'll just do what they did last year, bring them over to Raw and job them out in singles and tag matches.

i must see this!!!!

I haven't seen any YT or WWE Classics video of it. It was the mid 70s and Crockett didn't always keep stuff on tape. But it was fucking classic. He took out three cards, said they were from some famous actresses of the time and threw away the rest.

 

[dirtyd]

Only beef I have with the Warrior was the behind the scenes stuff. Seems like he was too greedy. He wasn't the best wrestler, but he knew how to put on a show and he brought maaaaad energy to his matches. I wish money hadn't got in the way of that cause we missed out on a lot of shit cause he kept rollin out.

Warrior was also know to blow up (get tired) before the match even began because of all that energy. I play as warrior on legends of wrestling showdown for the xbox and that shit is classic, not the best gameplay but wrestling inside of texas stadium with the von erichs is priceless.

i'm not gonna lie but as a kid I wasn't as scared of Jake the Snake as I was of Damien. Whenever he pulled him out I had to cover my eyes but the funniest thing I saw was when the earthquake suashed Damien.

No shame in being scared of damien hell big bad andre hated that damn snake.

 

[kanedagame]

ANd to add Honky Tonk Man actually called up Jim Crocket and was gonna take the belt with him to the NWA but he was on vacation during that time. And finally vince smoothed things out with him but t pissed of Savage and the rest was history

Yeah i read that a few years ago.

 

[Barback]

~BORN's RANDOM WRESTLING STUFF #1~

Ted Dibiase was scheduled to win the World Title at WM originally, but WWF changed their plans at the last minute. Literally, a few days before the show.

It all started from the Honky Tonk Man as he refused to lose the IC belt back to Savage(fearing they had nothing planned for him after which they didn't) and threaten to jump to the nwa with it

then Savage went nuts and was promised the title at mania

He was then gonna drop it to Dibiase who would then drop it back to Hogan at mania but the mega powers exploding became a better storyline

Dibiase got screwed by being the only professional

Honky Tonk Man also refused to put over Bret Hart and bad news brown until finally seeing dollar signs in the Ultimate Warrior

Damn, I've been watching wrestling since "84" and didn't know half the shit yall know. Thank's for informing...

 

[theoriginalgreatone]

Yo, we need some more layla pix up in here!!! when that chick gonna get in playboy?

 

[kanedagame]

ANd to add Honky Tonk Man actually called up Jim Crocket and was gonna take the belt with him to the NWA but he was on vacation during that time. And finally vince smoothed things out with him but t pissed of Savage and the rest was history

Plus HTM was gonna do an Alundra Blaze/Medusa and drop the belt in the garbage.

 

[SABU]

Ah man, I used to get PWI every month. I used to get PWI, Inside Wrestling, and The Wrestler.

Same here I would get those Mags,and the rest of the Apter mags Sports Review wrestling, Victory Sports, Wrestling Superstars, And Wrestling86-89

 

[SABU]

Plus HTM was gonna do an Alundra Blaze/Medusa and drop the belt in the garbage.

Yep. And also there wwas the other story abbout Dibiase joining the horsemen in 86 but they chosed Luger. And then another story with Nikita also in 86 with Koloff and Ivan jumping to the WWF to fight Hogan

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Same here I would get those Mags,and the rest of the Apter mags Sports Review wrestling, Victory Sports, Wrestling Superstars, And Wrestling86-89

I had the Wrestling 89 with Ric Flair and Ted Turner on the cover for years. Flair dressed even better than Ted.

 

[SABU]

I had the Wrestling 89 with Ric Flair and Ted Turner on the cover for years. Flair dressed even better than Ted.

Hahahahhaha i remember that one. And 1989 was NWA best year with in ring action, Muta-Sting, Muta-Steamboat, Steamboat-Flair, Funk-Flair, Tedddy Long being the crooked ref, Luger having his best run as a heel.

 

[The Pope]

Looking at TNA Impact and Mickie James is looking fine as fuck in her Daisy Duke getup.

 

[kanedagame]

Hahahahhaha i remember that one. And 1989 was NWA best year with in ring action, Muta-Sting, Muta-Steamboat, Steamboat-Flair, Funk-Flair, Tedddy Long being the crooked ref, Luger having his best run as a heel.

89 was a great year for NWA wrestling. I think that's when I really started watching NWA. I watched it b4 that but I really didn't pay it that much attention.

 

[Nochturnal]

Hahahahhaha i remember that one. And 1989 was NWA best year with in ring action, Muta-Sting, Muta-Steamboat, Steamboat-Flair, Funk-Flair, Tedddy Long being the crooked ref, Luger having his best run as a heel.

89 was a great year for NWA wrestling. I think that's when I really started watching NWA. I watched it b4 that but I really didn't pay it that much attention.

89 was a hell of a year for NWA Wrestling. If I'm not mistaken that was the year of the first Halloween Havoc

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Yo, we need some more layla pix up in here!!! when that chick gonna get in playboy?

presumably never since she turned them down LOL

 

[xspade7]

PWI Year End editions are the all time best I have 86,87,88,00,01,02.

 

[SABU]

89 was a hell of a year for NWA Wrestling. If I'm not mistaken that was the year of the first Halloween Havoc

Correct and the other PPV, Chi town rumble, Wrestle War, GAB, and Starrcade. And the 5 Clashes

 

[dirtyd]

Looking at TNA Impact and Mickie James is looking fine as fuck in her Daisy Duke getup.

But her country singing

 

[Deltronz]

But her country singing

I'll never get tired of her body

Note: I know this is an older photo of her, I just felt like posting it anyway.

 

[NightMare Paint]

Looking at TNA Impact and Mickie James is looking fine as fuck in her Daisy Duke getup.

Mickie had me screaming "BABY LET ME LICK YO ASSSSSS!" lookin like with a father and his young sons sitting in the seats right next to me about 2 house shows ago. That bitch is a problem.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

Oh Mickie you so fine...

You don't understand...

 

[BCAA2009]

Same here. I still vaguely remember Ric Flair and Blackjack Mulligan being NWA tag champs and when guys who are retired now just were breaking in, like Terry Taylor.

The first wrestling match I ever saw was in Memphis in the 80s. Brickhouse brown and Eric embry vs devastation Inc.

Skandor ackbar was the heel of all heels.

 

[blackras9]

Someone please explain to me why this goof, whose gimmick the audience CLEARLY HATES/FINDS BORING. Its getting a push??