This Xfactor clown just went too far.

mcguyver

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OG Investor
Fuck you bringing me into an Xfactor thread for? :confused: Fuck I got to do with what he posted here?


That should've been your first question and you have a trail of following behind them cosigning. The same way you can go into other threads supporting the shit they are shovelling you can call them out.
 

gene cisco

Not A BGOL Eunuch
BGOL Investor
They’ve spiraled out of control. The shit is actually funny and sad at the same time. This thread is a comedy of errors and a textbook case of untreated mental illness.
Fuck they bringing me into your thread for? :lol: I don't agree with none of the shit you posted here. Don't mean I'm going to follow you from thread to thread like a scorned bitch. These cats weirdos.
 

xfactor

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They never will because they are agents. They want to call me a trump supporter but they will NEVER address this thread, which I clearly said no crackers should be in any political leadership:


I only deal with the truth and facts. They deal with emotions because they are low level thinkers and that is why they won’t address your Malcolm X comments.

Baby steps. First got to get anyone with an ounce of heart to address this Malcolm quote.
 

gene cisco

Not A BGOL Eunuch
BGOL Investor
That should've been your first question and you have a trail of following behind them cosigning. The same way you can go into other threads supporting the shit they are shovelling you can call them out.
I don't keep up with your cool kids shit and can honestly give a fuck about board politics. I don't follow behind any fucking body but me. If any cat --including you or even @Dr. Truth bitch ass post something I agree with. I like it. Period. I ain't got to like the cat I'm liking a post of. If I feel they right, they right.
 

blackpepper

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I ain't cosign none of this shit in this thread. I'm riding with my own opinions. Oh, and with what Malcolm said here. Fuck any bootlicker who don't agree with him. If that happens to be OP or any of you guys, so the fuck be it.


With respect @gene cisco, this video of Malcolm was recorded on April 3, 1964, and the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 was later signed by LBJ (D) on July 2 the same year. So, it appears the rhetorical statements made in the video were primarily to maintain pressure on that admin to get it done, and they did. What else is there to this?
 

gene cisco

Not A BGOL Eunuch
BGOL Investor
They never will because they are agents. They want to call me a trump supporter but they will NEVER address this thread, which I clearly said no crackers should be in any political leadership:


I only deal with the truth and facts. They deal with emotions because they are low level thinkers and that is why they won’t address your Malcolm X comments.
Listen man. Some of these dumb bitches called me a republican or Trump supporter. So I know for a fact SOME of them full of shit. I never voted republican a day in my life and never have supported Trump. But if someone say something I agree with, I agree with it like a damn man and hold my ground.

All I know is some cat posted the Malcolm vid I posted and none of these cats will step foot in that thread.

Matter of fact, I'm about done here. I got some trades I might want to open. I can say I don't like your opinion on Martin Luther King. Think this thread should have never been started. And leave it at that like a man. I can also say cats bringing me into this shit was bitchmade. It's that simple.

What the market looking like this week though? :lol:
 

gene cisco

Not A BGOL Eunuch
BGOL Investor
With respect @gene cisco, this video of Malcolm was recorded on April 3, 1964, and the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 was later signed by LBJ (D) on July 2 the same year. So, it appears the rhetorical statements made in the video were primarily to maintain pressure on that admin to get it done, and they did. What else is there to this?
Shit. Why does it not surprise me that you addressed the video like a man?

Well, the point of the video is that it's a never ending fight to not be used and abused. Do you think Malcolm X would be satisfied with the way we have ALLOWED ourself to be used by the democrats the last 50 years?

Mind you, when this video was created, the Hispanic population was about 3 percent and Asian population was about .5 percent. They ended up eating most off the Civil Rights Act thanks to who?
 

mcguyver

Rising Star
OG Investor
I don't keep up with your cool kids shit and can honestly give a fuck about board politics. I don't follow behind any fucking body but me. If any cat --including you or even @Dr. Truth bitch ass post something I agree with. I like it. Period. I ain't got to like the cat I'm liking a post of. If I feel they right, they right.


Your label "cool kids" and "bitch ass" just proves opposite what you are saying. And that is what we are talking about, you "like" everything they say and you go at people who disagree with them. Well we are asking do you agree with Xfagtor's MLK bashing and if not why haven't you shown it?
 

gene cisco

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BGOL Investor
Your label "cool kids" and "bitch ass" just proves opposite what you are saying. And that is what we are talking about, you "like" everything they say and you go at people who disagree with them. Well we are asking do you agree with Xfagtor's MLK bashing and if not why haven't you shown it?
Look. I have no real problem with you, so I'll respond. I told @xfactor himself in this thread I don't agree with it. I also think it was bitchmade to bring me in this thread. I don't like everything 'they' say. Where is my like for the original post in this thread? You cats got to stop with that shit. It's some weird shit.

Say what you want about OP, but he never put words in my mouth. Never came at me on some bullshit.

I tend to agree with Xfactor on democrats. I also like his market takes. After that, I don't know what the fuck you cats talking about.

If I ain't cosigning a post or thread, I just move on for the most part.

Peace man. I'm done here unless blackpepper responds about the video.
 

mcguyver

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OG Investor
Look. I have no real problem with you, so I'll respond. I told @xfactor himself in this thread I don't agree with it. I also think it was bitchmade to bring me in this thread. I don't like everything 'they' say. Where is my like for the original post in this thread? You cats got to stop with that shit. It's some weird shit.

Say what you want about OP, but he never put words in my mouth. Never came at me on some bullshit.

I tend to agree with Xfactor on democrats. I also like his market takes. After that, I don't know what the fuck you cats talking about.

If I ain't cosigning a post or thread, I just move on for the most part.

Peace man. I'm done here unless blackpepper responds about the video.

Bro I never had issues with you, I simply asked you a question.
If you are saying you don't agree with everything he/they say, and you told him you don't agree with him. Then why was it bitch made to throw you in the thread? You only want to threads and posts you can throw shots at democrats and cosign with the democrat bashing? BTW let me make this clear, I could care less which party you or anyone choose or who you choose to bash.
 
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blackpepper

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Shit. Why does it not surprise me that you addressed the video like a man?

Well, the point of the video is that it's a never ending fight to not be used and abused. Do you think Malcolm X would be satisfied with the way we have ALLOWED ourself to be used by the democrats the last 50 years?

Mind you, when this video was created, the Hispanic population was about 3 percent and Asian population was about .5 percent. They ended up eating most off the Civil Rights Act thanks to who?
It's a never ending fight because white americans of every other creed, ethnicity, national origin, and political stripe continue to resist giving black people equal standing and justice. So no, I don't think Malcolm would be happy with the current, overall state of black americans. Straight off the boat they all sign up for this and jump the line ahead of all the black folks who've been waiting endlessly for access to economic opportunities. Of course some of the problems in our community are self inflicted. However, long story short we are just as desirous and capable of success in every single arena of this society. When equally allowed (not undermined at every point along the way) we thrive just as well as whites, latinos, asians, africans, etc...

You are correct on the primary benefactors of the the civil rights legislation. That's because latinos and asian aren't perceived as quite the threat that black people are. They know how extremely they fucked us over for centuries. That's why they stay trigger happy on us.
 

gene cisco

Not A BGOL Eunuch
BGOL Investor
It's a never ending fight because white americans of every other creed, ethnicity, national origin, and political stripe continue to resist giving black people equal standing and justice. So no, I don't think Malcolm would be happy with the current, overall state of black americans. Straight off the boat they all sign up for this and jump the line ahead of all the black folks who've been waiting endlessly for access to economic opportunities. Of course some of the problems in our community are self inflicted. However, long story short we are just as desirous and capable of success in every single arena of this society. When equally allowed (not undermined at every point along the way) we thrive just as well as whites, latinos, asians, africans, etc...

You are correct on the primary benefactors of the the civil rights legislation. That's because latinos and asian aren't perceived as quite the threat that black people are. They know how extremely they fucked us over for centuries. That's why they stay trigger happy on us.
See here. This an example of how adults act. You didn't agree with my original post. Posted a reply articulating your point. I replied back. We find out that we are basically on the same page.

It's a never-ending fight and we must TAKE respect from EVERYONE. We must hold politicians accountable every fucking step of the way. If they do something cool on Monday, good. We make sure they do something better on Tuesday or they put on notice.

It's THEM who should be walking on eggshells, not us. Like Malcolm said, we have that power to make or break elections. To make or break careers. Let's get it.
 

xfactor

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BGOL Investor
I have no idea. The thread has nothing to do with you but I know there are some hardcore Democrips on nBGOL and if you aren’t a mindless zombie they go on the attack. It is really sad to see grown men, near senior citizen age, act like this on a daily basis.

me personally, I would want to know more TRUE history that is available but these clowns prefer to deal with narratives, fiction novels and super heroes. Just like the RED and BLUE, they may seem different on the surface but they all have one thing in common... they are written by the caucasian and that is who these posters worship. They can’t stand when a so-called black man is not pro-white.

Fuck they bringing me into your thread for? :lol: I don't agree with none of the shit you posted here. Don't mean I'm going to follow you from thread to thread like a scorned bitch. These cats weirdos.
 

geechiedan

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BGOL Investor
I have no idea. The thread has nothing to do with you but I know there are some hardcore Democrips on nBGOL and if you aren’t a mindless zombie they go on the attack. It is really sad to see grown men, near senior citizen age, act like this on a daily basis.

me personally, I would want to know more TRUE history that is available but these clowns prefer to deal with narratives, fiction novels and super heroes. Just like the RED and BLUE, they may seem different on the surface but they all have one thing in common... they are written by the caucasian and that is who these posters worship. They can’t stand when a so-called black man is not pro-white.
you never answered the question...what are your specific issues with MLK?
 

xfactor

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
facts = “dumb shit” :eek2:

the back and forth is futile because you pro-whites are illogical. Even MLK, Jr. would admit he fucked up and he did. By the time he tried to rectify it, he got assassinated. That doesn’t erase the work that he did (good and bad) and if you think it is disrespectful, you need a psychiatric evaluation.

If you could debunk anything I posted, you would. But you can’t so you won’t. Truth always trumps name calling. Your mother should’ve taught you that as a child.


don’t forget to add the source info:
You should be banned for this dumb shit? How do your fellow troll morons feel about your MLK disrespect? I guess as long as you are a lifetime member of their circle jerk its all good.
 

geechiedan

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BGOL Investor
facts = “dumb shit” :eek2:

the back and forth is futile because you pro-whites are illogical. Even MLK, Jr. would admit he fucked up and he did. By the time he tried to rectify it, he got assassinated. That doesn’t erase the work that he did (good and bad) and if you think it is disrespectful, you need a psychiatric evaluation.

If you could debunk anything I posted, you would. But you can’t so you won’t. Truth always trumps name calling. Your mother should’ve taught you that as a child.
MLK cheating on his wife is their own business and has nothing to do with the movement

MLK ALLEGEDLY being a marxist or whatever his political beliefs didn't and doesn't change the real world affects that Jim Crow had on black folks in the US.

For a guy that was supposed to be a fuck up he had the US govt running scared of him.

is that all you got??? :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
 

xfactor

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BGOL Investor
you never answered the question...what are your specific issues with MLK?
No issues. nBGOL trolls deployed constant harassment against so-called black posters that want to claim a distinct lineage, claiming we are “Russian bots” so I made a thread about the most famous so-called black man influenced by Russia in the last century. Now you see this thread. Not difficult to see who is most upset. (Emigrants that benefitted from the movement) All I posted was source material that still has not been refuted.
 

Akata King

D3port Th3m @ll!!
BGOL Investor
facts = “dumb shit” :eek2:

the back and forth is futile because you pro-whites are illogical. Even MLK, Jr. would admit he fucked up and he did. By the time he tried to rectify it, he got assassinated. That doesn’t erase the work that he did (good and bad) and if you think it is disrespectful, you need a psychiatric evaluation.

If you could debunk anything I posted, you would. But you can’t so you won’t. Truth always trumps name calling. Your mother should’ve taught you that as a child.

Man, just feel compassion for them. You’re trying to make them do something that they can’t do, which is THINK! They lack that ability and, rather than develop it, they lash out at the person who they believe is the cause.
 

geechiedan

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BGOL Investor
No issues. nBGOL trolls deployed constant harassment against so-called black posters that want to claim a distinct lineage, claiming we are “Russian bots” so I made a thread about the most famous so-called black man influenced by Russia in the last century. Now you see this thread. Not difficult to see who is most upset. (Emigrants that benefitted from the movement) All I posted was source material that still has not been refuted.
nothing to refute....it was the height of the cold war and Russia had their hands deep in the US....and vise versa and its still going on today

Now YOU seem to be not so subtly insinuating that MLK was consciously or purposefully misleading his people and doing things to the detriment of the black community. Then when called on it you wanna act all
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Tito_Jackson

Truth Teller
Registered
With respect @gene cisco, this video of Malcolm was recorded on April 3, 1964, and the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 was later signed by LBJ (D) on July 2 the same year. So, it appears the rhetorical statements made in the video were primarily to maintain pressure on that admin to get it done, and they did. What else is there to this?
tenor.gif

There is more to this.

The Civil Rights act vote breakdown was as such:

The House voted 290 to 130 in favor. Democrats split their vote 152 (61%) to 96 (39%) while Republicans split theirs 138 (80%) to 34 (20%). The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats.

I only bring this up because you eluted to LBJ because he was a Democrat, but it was democrats who voted 'No" more than the Republicans. LBJ, was a known racist who despised blacks and regularly called black folks ni#$a. JFK, also a Democrat, wrote a civil rights bill in 1963. Most people do not know this. Guess what he purposely omitted? Making segregation illegal and a federal crime. He and his advisors thought that was pushing the envelope too much.

No conjecture, just facts.

Just a reminder, the first anti-lynching bill was introduced in 1937, the Democrats voted it down. From 1961-1969, Democrats controlled all three branches during the administrations of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. Still, no movement on antilynching. Now it is 2021, and the Democrats still can not get all democrats to agree that lynching is bad. Geesh.

For the record, republicans suck and democrats suck. I cheerlead for neither party.
 

mcguyver

Rising Star
OG Investor
facts = “dumb shit” :eek2:

the back and forth is futile because you pro-whites are illogical. Even MLK, Jr. would admit he fucked up and he did. By the time he tried to rectify it, he got assassinated. That doesn’t erase the work that he did (good and bad) and if you think it is disrespectful, you need a psychiatric evaluation.

If you could debunk anything I posted, you would. But you can’t so you won’t. Truth always trumps name calling. Your mother should’ve taught you that as a child.

This is from the link you posted.


"There is no evidence that any of the claims in the report were verified."


"Among its other accusations are that:
  • Dr King was surrounded by advisers with strong links to the Communist Party USA
  • His statements were always subject to approval by the alleged communist sympathisers
  • He was a secret supporter of communism, "a whole-hearted Marxist"
  • His organisation, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, set up a "tax dodge" to raise funds for its activities
  • Dr King took part in "drunken sex orgies" and coerced young women to participate
  • He had love affairs with at least four women, including folk singer Joan Baez
The list of alleged indiscretions would likely have been deeply problematic for the civil rights leader if it had been made public in 1968."
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
tenor.gif

There is more to this.

The Civil Rights act vote breakdown was as such:

The House voted 290 to 130 in favor. Democrats split their vote 152 (61%) to 96 (39%) while Republicans split theirs 138 (80%) to 34 (20%). The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats.

I only bring this up because you eluted to LBJ because he was a Democrat, but it was democrats who voted 'No" more than the Republicans. LBJ, was a known racist who despised blacks and regularly called black folks ni#$a. JFK, also a Democrat, wrote a civil rights bill in 1963. Most people do not know this. Guess what he purposely omitted? Making segregation illegal and a federal crime. He and his advisors thought that was pushing the envelope too much.

No conjecture, just facts.

Just a reminder, the first anti-lynching bill was introduced in 1937, the Democrats voted it down. From 1961-1969, Democrats controlled all three branches during the administrations of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. Still, no movement on antilynching. Now it is 2021, and the Democrats still can not get all democrats to agree that lynching is bad. Geesh.

For the record, republicans suck and democrats suck. I cheerlead for neither party.
more facts....


In 1854, the Republican Party was founded mainly to end slavery, and for two decades it honorably promoted African-American equality. Its first presidential nominee, pioneer James C. Frémont, took a staunch anti-slavery stand in 1856 and ran well, paving the way for Abraham Lincoln's election four years later. Lincoln was no radical. He believed white men superior to blacks and opposed the outright abolition of slavery. But he wanted to stop slavery's westward expansion in the hope that it would die out—a position that won him endorsements from leading African-Americans such as Frederick Douglass and 40 percent of the overall vote, enough for victory in a four-way race.

After the Civil War, the "Radical Republicans," who oversaw the Reconstruction of the South, brought blacks into electoral politics. Blacks naturally joined the GOP rather than the white supremacist Southern Democrats. In these golden years, black Republicans got the vote and even won elective office (Mississippi elected the nation's first African-American senator in 1870). Led by the GOP, the nation ratified the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, which ended slavery and gave black men full citizenship and the franchise.


The GOP's abandonment of African-Americans commenced with the presidential election of 1876
. The party had already been subordinating its agenda of black equality to that of cultivating Northern industrialists when Ohio Republican Rutherford B. Hayes, to resolve a contested election, agreed to the notorious Compromise of 1876. In exchange for their support, Hayes promised Southern Democrats to withdraw federal troops from the South and to let them treat blacks as they pleased. Almost immediately, white supremacist, or "redeemer" Democrats regained power, heralding the reign of Jim Crow. Ironically, the compromise also crippled black Republicanism, as state Republican parties, to compete for white votes, engaged in racial me-tooism, purging blacks from the party or shunting them into "Black and Tan" delegations whose legitimacy was.

By the Progressive Era, both the Republicans and the Democrats were generally uninterested in helping African-Americans. One issue that couldn't be ignored—though the parties tried—was the horror of lynching, which had become rampant in the post-Reconstruction South. Anti-lynching laws marked the last major civil rights issue on which Republicans were out in front.


In 1920 Leonidas Dyer, a Missouri Republican from a largely black St. Louis district, introduced an anti-lynching bill, which the new Republican president, Warren Harding, endorsed. The House passed it in January 1922 (231-199, with only 17 Republicans opposing and eight Northern or border-state Democrats in support). Yet even though they controlled the Senate too, the GOP couldn't, or wouldn't, pull out the stops to pass the law. While Majority Leader Henry Cabot Lodge of Massachusetts supported the bill, the powerful Idaho Republican William Borah opposed it as meddling in states' rights and helped Southern Democrats kill it. The Borah-Lodge rift foretold a schism in the GOP between Northeastern liberals and a Midwestern and Western Old Guard that would later scramble the party's racial politics.

The election of Roosevelt in 1932 marked the beginning of a change. The realignment crystallized under President Franklin Roosevelt. In 1932, FDR won just 23 percent of the black vote. Yet he swiftly bolstered his black support.Gestures such as consulting a "black cabinet" of unofficial African-American advisers surely helped, but more important were his economic relief programs. The Depression hit black Americans disproportionately hard, and FDR's relief programs, such as the Civilian Conservation Corps and the Public Works Administration, gave them much-needed aid and jobs. A popular song among Depression-era blacks made it plain:

Roosevelt! You're my man!
When the time come I ain't got a cent
You buy my groceries
And pay my rent.
Mr. Roosevelt, you're my man!


In Congress, meanwhile, Northern and Western Democrats took the lead on progressive racial legislation; it was two Democratic senators who in 1934 introduced the next major anti-lynching bill. Between 1932 and 1936, writes historian Nancy J. Weiss in Farewell to the Party of Lincoln: Black Politics in the Age of FDR, "Roosevelt and the New Deal changed the voting habits of black Americans in ways that have lasted to our own time."


Roosevelt got 71 percent of the black vote for president in 1936 and did nearly that well in the next two elections, according to historical figures kept by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies. But even then, the number of blacks identifying themselves as Republicans was about the same as the number who thought of themselves as Democrats.

It wasn't until Harry Truman garnered 77 percent of the black vote in 1948 that a majority of blacks reported that they thought of themselves as Democrats. Earlier that year Truman had issued an order desegregating the armed services and an executive order setting up regulations against racial bias in federal employment.

Even after that, Republican nominees continued to get a large slice of the black vote for several elections. Dwight D. Eisenhower got 39 percent in 1956, and Richard Nixon got 32 percent in his narrow loss to John F. Kennedy in 1960. Entering the 1960 election the Democrats, behind such leaders as Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota and Herbert Lehman of New York, had become the unquestioned party of civil rights. Richard Nixon, who always overestimated his own popularity with blacks, still hoped to fare well—Jackie Robinson, for one, endorsed him—and he probably had a stronger civil rights record than John F. Kennedy. But JFK courted the black vote, famously phoning Martin Luther King Jr.'s wife, Coretta, when the civil rights leader was jailed. Kennedy would have commanded the black vote anyway, but the closeness of the election led analysts to mythologize the phone call as critical.


The battle over Civil Rights marked the last hurrah for racial liberalism within the GOP. But then President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed through the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (outlawing segregation in public places) and his eventual Republican opponent, Sen. Barry Goldwater, opposed it. Johnson got 94 percent of the black vote that year, still a record for any presidential election until 2008.

The following year Johnson signed the 1965 Voting Rights Act. No Republican presidential candidate has gotten more than 15 percent of the black vote since.


What makes the issues on the board so infuriating is this notion that black people are making decisions blindly when in fact black america is doing today what we've always done...try to make the best decision out of a fucked up situation. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say they did this wrong or that wrong but no one living today would do any better back then either.
 

lightbright

Master Pussy Poster
BGOL Investor
All part of HNI&C's plan. Drive enough controversy with racists and faggot posters and eventually bgol will get the traffic to make money from. :smh:
Faggotry runs amok now, with little nothing said about it....... male members making sexual advances at other male members..... numerous times.... and escape with only a two week ban.... same member making a faggot thread.... with nothing said by other members.... :smh: :smh: :smh:




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blackpepper

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
tenor.gif

There is more to this.

The Civil Rights act vote breakdown was as such:

The House voted 290 to 130 in favor. Democrats split their vote 152 (61%) to 96 (39%) while Republicans split theirs 138 (80%) to 34 (20%). The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats.

I only bring this up because you eluted to LBJ because he was a Democrat, but it was democrats who voted 'No" more than the Republicans. LBJ, was a known racist who despised blacks and regularly called black folks ni#$a. JFK, also a Democrat, wrote a civil rights bill in 1963. Most people do not know this. Guess what he purposely omitted? Making segregation illegal and a federal crime. He and his advisors thought that was pushing the envelope too much.

No conjecture, just facts.

Just a reminder, the first anti-lynching bill was introduced in 1937, the Democrats voted it down. From 1961-1969, Democrats controlled all three branches during the administrations of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. Still, no movement on antilynching. Now it is 2021, and the Democrats still can not get all democrats to agree that lynching is bad. Geesh.

For the record, republicans suck and democrats suck. I cheerlead for neither party.

I fucked up? Well do a brutha a solid and point out the fallacy in my statement you quoted. I never said that was the whole story. I simply pointed out a few historical facts/dates and stated my opinion on the purpose of Malcolm's comments in the video. If you read my subsequent statement, you'll see I also said it doesn't matter what "creed, ethnicity, national origin, AND POLITICAL STRIPE " white people are. Finally, 1937 just really. Lincoln was a republican too, but neither party bears any resemblance to what it was back then or in 1937, so how's that matter?
 

Tito_Jackson

Truth Teller
Registered
neither party bears any resemblance to what it was back then or in 1937
The gif was in jest.

You and I actually agree on most points.
black america is doing today what we've always done...try to make the best decision out of a fucked up situation.
This is true. Back then, we voted for whatever party we felt was in our best interest. So, both parties at least pretended to care and worked for our votes.

We don't do this anymore. We only vote one party no matter what. This is what Malcolm X tried to warn us about. We can not continue to be an easy lay for the democrats.

In this instance it's lose lose. The Democrats don't feel like they need to work for our votes and the republicans feel it's a waste of time to work for our votes.

Lose lose, and it's our fault.
 

gene cisco

Not A BGOL Eunuch
BGOL Investor
No issues. nBGOL trolls deployed constant harassment against so-called black posters that want to claim a distinct lineage, claiming we are “Russian bots” so I made a thread about the most famous so-called black man influenced by Russia in the last century. Now you see this thread. Not difficult to see who is most upset. (Emigrants that benefitted from the movement) All I posted was source material that still has not been refuted.
So that's what this is about? I forgot about all that :eek2: "Russia" shit.

You shouldn't have used MLK. Should have used Angela Davis. HEAVY with soviets. HEAVY. This was during the cold war. Even ran in a third party, which in BGOL world is republican shit. It's in the spirit of not voting makes a person a republican I been told. But I guess depending on the era, the person gets a pass and praise. How's that math work?

As soon as she said to vote against Trump, she was posted. That's the grand opening/grand closing to all this shit.

What's confusing is we know Soviets used the racial divide just like Russia is using it. Well, those of us who read history. They didn't care. They just used the racism to try to cause division in the U.S. Why was it cool back then, but not now? Folks don't even know what the goal of russian propaganda was then or now. :smh: That's what happens when talking points come from coastal white hippies who don't know black history.

If Angela was on now what she was on in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, she'd have been called a 'bot' or 'agent' by many posters here. She is a great activist.
 

donwuan

The Legend
BGOL Investor
tenor.gif

There is more to this.

The Civil Rights act vote breakdown was as such:

The House voted 290 to 130 in favor. Democrats split their vote 152 (61%) to 96 (39%) while Republicans split theirs 138 (80%) to 34 (20%). The no vote consisted of 74% Democrats.

I only bring this up because you eluted to LBJ because he was a Democrat, but it was democrats who voted 'No" more than the Republicans. LBJ, was a known racist who despised blacks and regularly called black folks ni#$a. JFK, also a Democrat, wrote a civil rights bill in 1963. Most people do not know this. Guess what he purposely omitted? Making segregation illegal and a federal crime. He and his advisors thought that was pushing the envelope too much.

No conjecture, just facts.

Just a reminder, the first anti-lynching bill was introduced in 1937, the Democrats voted it down. From 1961-1969, Democrats controlled all three branches during the administrations of Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. Still, no movement on antilynching. Now it is 2021, and the Democrats still can not get all democrats to agree that lynching is bad. Geesh.

For the record, republicans suck and democrats suck. I cheerlead for neither party.

Whatever bro. Yo ass never ever say shit about republicans except to cover yo ass at the end of a post.
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
The gif was in jest.

You and I actually agree on most points.

This is true. Back then, we voted for whatever party we felt was in our best interest. So, both parties at least pretended to care and worked for our votes.

We don't do this anymore. We only vote one party no matter what. This is what Malcolm X tried to warn us about. We can not continue to be an easy lay for the democrats.

In this instance it's lose lose. The Democrats don't feel like they need to work for our votes and the republicans feel it's a waste of time to work for our votes.

Lose lose, and it's our fault.
this is what your don't understand...its not our fault.. the republican party (when they were getting the black vote) sold us out whenever it was politically expedient without hesitation.

Whether it was Compromise of 1876 or not doing anything about lynching at the turn of the century or Goldwater opposing civil rights legislation in the 60s..

blacks loyally voted for both parties at various times and that had to do with jobs, opportunity and dignity.

Lincoln is credited with ending slavery - black support

Harding is credited with signing anti lynching laws - black support

FDR is credited with opening up aid and jobs during the depression - black support

Truman ended segregation in military and ended bias in federal jobs - black support

JFK gave the IMPRESSION he supported the Civil Rights Movements - black support

LBJ - signed Civil Rights Legislation - black support

Malcolm X can say what he said but whether its 50 years ago or today we have to vote/deal for the one tick lesser of 2 evils in that moment. Which is what we've been doing since arriving in this country. Its easy to say no one party should get the majority of the black vote its waaay more difficult to define what other choices there are beyond blue or red.
 

Tito_Jackson

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this is what your don't understand...its not our fault.. the republican party (when they were getting the black vote) sold us out whenever it was politically expedient without hesitation.

Whether it was Compromise of 1876 or not doing anything about lynching at the turn of the century or Goldwater opposing civil rights legislation in the 60s..

blacks loyally voted for both parties at various times and that had to do with jobs, opportunity and dignity.

Lincoln is credited with ending slavery - black support

Harding is credited with signing anti lynching laws - black support

FDR is credited with opening up aid and jobs during the depression - black support

Truman ended segregation in military and ended bias in federal jobs - black support

JFK gave the IMPRESSION he supported the Civil Rights Movements - black support

LBJ - signed Civil Rights Legislation - black support

Malcolm X can say what he said but whether its 50 years ago or today we have to vote/deal for the one tick lesser of 2 evils in that moment. Which is what we've been doing since arriving in this country. Its easy to say no one party should get the majority of the black vote its waaay more difficult to define what other choices there are beyond blue or red.
I actually completely understand. My position is, it's 2021, since 1964, over a half a century has passed, we would be hard pressed to find one major piece of legislation since 1964 that was specifically for us other than MLK Day.

Compared to 1964 (this data has been researched and verified)
  • More blacks are dependent on government
  • More black children are born out of wedlock
  • More black men are incarcerated
  • Blacks have less wealth as compared to whites
  • Fewer black men and women are getting married
  • Health outcomes for blacks has worsened
  • Home ownership for black has dramatically decreased
  • The wealth gap between blacks and all other races has widened for the worse.
This is under both democrats and republicans. We are becoming the permanent underclass with no possible way of turning it around if things continue as they are.

I get it. You say the Democrats are our best chance to get things. Ok. Then we need to lean on them way harder and threaten them with our votes. Unfortunately, they know we won't go anywhere. Do, it's an empty threat.
 

blackpepper

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Compared to 1964 (this data has been researched and verified)
  • More blacks are dependent on government
  • More black children are born out of wedlock
  • More black men are incarcerated
  • Blacks have less wealth as compared to whites
  • Fewer black men and women are getting married
  • Health outcomes for blacks has worsened
  • Home ownership for black has dramatically decreased
  • The wealth gap between blacks and all other races has widened for the worse.
The reasons for all this aren't nearly all our fault. They all consolidate against us, regardless of party.
... they know we won't go anywhere. So, it's an empty threat.
Where would we go?
 

geechiedan

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I actually completely understand. My position is, it's 2021, since 1964, over a half a century has passed, we would be hard pressed to find one major piece of legislation since 1964 that was specifically for us other than MLK Day.

Compared to 1964 (this data has been researched and verified)
  • More blacks are dependent on government
  • More black children are born out of wedlock
  • More black men are incarcerated
  • Blacks have less wealth as compared to whites
  • Fewer black men and women are getting married
  • Health outcomes for blacks has worsened
  • Home ownership for black has dramatically decreased
  • The wealth gap between blacks and all other races has widened for the worse.
This is under both democrats and republicans. We are becoming the permanent underclass with no possible way of turning it around if things continue as they are.

I get it. You say the Democrats are our best chance to get things. Ok. Then we need to lean on them way harder and threaten them with our votes. Unfortunately, they know we won't go anywhere. Do, it's an empty threat.
  • More blacks are dependent on government - welfare was created for poor white women and orphans and blacks were excluded... all that meant was poor blacks were REALLY assed out when it came to making ends meet.
  • More black children are born out of wedlock - if you include the totality of black people in america then black children were always born out of wedlock at higher rates considering how black families and couples were broken up during slavery and all the raping happening. The first deadbeat father in any African American family is most likely some white guy.
  • More black men are incarcerated - guess we're not counting slavery and after that black codes and vagrancy laws..so when do we start counting the incarceration rates?
  • Blacks have less wealth as compared to whites - :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
  • Fewer black men and women are getting married - I don't subscribe to the nuclear family model thats basically a western white centric concept thats not even 100 years old.
  • Health outcomes for blacks has worsened - again compared to what living under lynching and chronic terror how did that affect black health?
  • Home ownership for black has dramatically decreased - yeah everyone got fucked over when the housing bubble burst and of course we're hit the worst by it...like every other negative stat..thats just life in america period
  • The wealth gap between blacks and all other races has widened for the worse. - all other races don't have the same circumstance that black americans have. But I'm pretty sure native americans aren't doing that much better...just that no one (and I mean NO ONE) give a shit about them.
This comparing ourselves against ourselves is designed to create a sense of worthlessness and inferiority. The basis of this argument is that the welfare state is the root cause of issues in the black community... that's a typical conservative tactic, isn't it? The issues of the black community have less to do with welfare and more to do with society's treatment and attitudes toward blacks as a group.

In the 1950s homicides were down and legitimacy was much higher but that doesn't really mean a heck of a whole lot when daddy is unemployed or under-employed and blacks as a whole are marginalized and treated like 2nd class citizens in any case.

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People like to draw a contrast in the behavior of blacks of 1950 with blacks in the 60s and beyond. As if in 1955 the black community was a Norman Rockwell painting with father in the home dressed in a suit, mother wearing a pearl necklace, daughter in a poodle skirt, and son dressed in overalls with a slingshot in the back pocket. And by 1965 just ten years later daddy's gone, mommy's a welfare queen, daughter is a slut in training and son is a violent malcontent.

But here's a question if Blacks behaved so much better in the 1950s and before then why was that generation treated so horribly?? Why would a generation of blacks that was so noble and had such good Christian family values and so earnest in assimilating into society be treated in such a fashion?

10 years is not a long time and well within a generation so that 1950s blacks are the generation that migrated from the racist south to the north and west in search of those good jobs in factories and such by the late 50s early 60s..but couldn't find any...why not? Was that generation too lazy to work? That's the generation that moved into predominately white neighborhoods only to see their white neighbors leave for the suburbs (I think the term is white flight) what reason would they have to do that if that generation was so upright and noble? Why would that generation of hard-working Christian values black people accept welfare if jobs were plentiful in the first place?

So when I see a list like that of negative stats I take that with a grain of salt because it doesn't take into consideration what America IS and what it has historically been to black folks.
 
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