It's being created for a reason. Divide and conquer. Never fails. Want to motivate people? Conjure up an enemy for the people to focus on.
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Trevor Noah was asked about Reparations on his show. This was his response.
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It's being created for a reason. Divide and conquer. Never fails. Want to motivate people? Conjure up an enemy for the people to focus on.
Any Black person claiming ADOS and denying any other Black person anything is an asshole, an idiot and a cot damn nincompoop.
The entire ADOS movement is based on racist, separatist ignorance from Black folks aimed at Black folks.
Fuck is wrong with folks nowadays?
The entire ADOS movement is based on racist, separatist ignorance from Black folks aimed at Black folks.
Fuck is wrong with folks nowadays?
I don't get it, I was born here too.
and AGAIN I support the movement and I don't want "YOUR" money
but they better be VERY careful with this plan of attack
cause we got a whole lot of people who don't know their birth parents history like that.
I wonder how a bunch of these ADOS folks who don't know even KNOW they dads
gonna react when they waiting on that "check" and come to find out they DADDY half Jamaican .
And these white boys walking around getting checks on checks cause they granddaddy happened upon a rape hut.
Just saying
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^^^^ I'll take "Things a bonafide coon will say for $500 Alex"
But here the thing..
WE DON'T WANT SH*T.
but you got Daffy Ducks out here thinking they gonna become wealthy misers
and thinking IF they succeed or much more likely FAIL?
We ain't exactly gonna FORGET all this.
"Race" is made up just like all religions. So the lie exists to some extent and we know the behavior is real as is the consequences.
Yes we know the behavior is real, but not everybody behaves that way. So not everybody is a little racist. It's not a human property.
Yeah, I can’t get with that. I got way too much love for my international brethren to co-sign this divide.
This goes against some of my BASIC principles I’ve nurtured over the years, especially considering my history exposure to the African diaspora through black film research.
fam?
the fact you gave me the credit of articulating YOUR thought process?
I'm gonna carry that like the WCW belt for the rest of the WEEK!!!!
So why you gargling so much foreign junk then?
Why are you belching out "you're not one of us?"
It's only a handful of assholes on this board throwing that in every convo about reparations. When asked deeper questions they just attack instead of actually explaining themselves. They have an agenda to run...so it is what it is.
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Its deeper than that. Actually, its something that humans have evolved with.
Find the entire episode and give it look. Essentially it points out that all humans have an innate distrust of others who are different. Where you go from there depends on a lot of things.
Excellent points.
This shit will open up Pandora’s box.
Like a white racist kkk member finding out their great great grandmother was black.
And the more I think about it, the stupider this shit is becoming.
I traced my roots (not DNA) but through census records. My family been in NC for over 200 years, but where is the cut off line at for ADOS?
These kats ain’t really put thought into this yet.
They claiming it doesn't make it true. Humans have an innate curiosity for everything. And a distrust for strangers in general. Not for strangers who look different. You learn to distrust people who look different. It's not in you. That "Through The Wormhole" show is really stupid.
YUP
And if you got time..
Please explain the HUGE significance of the Louisiana Purchase to French Haitian and American history ans slavery period?
We all want unity, solidarity and brotherhood. I mean...we all SHOULD...
As for reparations, idvrather have a lawful documented dismantling of systemic suppression and exploitation of people of color than a cash pay out.
The Lousinana Purchases doesn’t happen without the slave revolt in Haiti.
That muddles the ADOS movement completely!
How does the movement address that when it comes to who is included or not?
That's not even a problem, it's actually a benefit. The fact that each claim would have to be heavily researched and litigated would help curtail the rate of fund dispersment.
Look, nobody says shit when the native american counsels get together to decide who is or isnt eligible for those checks they get, we just need an elected counsel and an established set of rules and we can iron all the other shit out.
And I'm not saying check as in a direct monetary payment, there are a myriad number of ways that reperatuons could be meeted out that dont involve a bank deposit. The point is vetting the applicants.
Its even sillier to argue about how to identify recipients when there is no accord that it should happen in the first instance. It's like we're arguing over the styling of a bugatti we dont have a chance of driving as it stands cause of the fear some have they won't get any of this one particular pie despite having eaten off every pie that has come before.
Straight bitch shit if you ask me.
Excellent points he made.
Once this became a thing, these factors becomes important to individuals that feels like they are going to be shunned away.
And it’s going to happen. It’s going to create a divide. No amount of research or vetting will change that, IMO.
I’m not taking sides here. I’ll just against the divide. Period.
How people want to hash this out is something I don’t want to be actively a part of because there is going to be some factors unaccounted for. Set rules are general, but it doesn’t address the unknowns that always comes up and no one has answers for. And because this movement is politically driven, I got little trust in counsel to maintain any type of order because of corruption potential.
Also, it’s clear the idea of this movement is being interpreted differently, so this suggest to me that people are already not even on the same page on how they understand it.
Maybe once there is more clarity and organization behind it, I’ll be able to understand the direction it’s headed. As of now, I don’t see it.
Funny how Tariq did a documentary on the Revolt in Haiti but now even he to is on some "Fuck Caribbean Folks" bullshit. How things have changed. We went from one people spread across the world fighting against an oppressive power to "Fuck alla ya'll who ain't born here?"
Tariq will switch back to being "for all melanoid people across the globe", as he claimed, once he starts trying to sell Hidden Colors 5.
I knew it was only a matter of time before the Diaspora Brigade showed up and completely RUIN another thread...notice they only show up in Reparations of ADOS threads raising pure hell.
It's our own skinfolk that need to understand it too so we can align and push for those rewards
All the objection I've seen is from ppl who are 1st or 2nd generation black but not from America
They always take it as an attack on their blackness and refuse to see it any other way
When really it's not. It's their brothers/sisters gettuge just due from the government that enslaved them
The cold part is
If their country of origin said we need to give those who were brought here or colonized by Europe reparations
We wouldn't see it as an attack on our blackness
We'd say hell yeah they owe you go get that money
Boom Bye Bye....
Clarify what you saying cuz.
Good response. Truth of the matter is we're fucked. Nobody is gonna set you up? Nobody is gonna give you a freebie. Nobody is gonna share their riches. Nobody is going to create their own competition. Just not how things work. We're behind because of the systematic racism, we can catch up, but only if we're not stifled, we will always be stifled in america. Its in the honkies dna to fuck with us, it has to be. Some kind of survival instinct or something. Never will be a fair fight.
My thing, it makes sense to me that some would see it as attack if there no clear understanding of it.
We are talking about applying something to a particular group of people, which in itself is unclear on how you define them. This was the problem I was having when I first noticed this movement.
While I was in agreement with a lot of the agenda with some of the points that where address, it still possessed the risk on certain folks taking it as an attack or exclusion without clarity.
I agree we shouldn’t see it an attack, but I can also see why others would be able to see it that way.
And I can not discount those with extreme thinking on either sides.
Yes, this is about folk getting what they deserved from the government. How one is going to hash that out as far as who? It’s going to cause problems.
What I'm saying is nobody black should oppose descendants of slaves in this country getting reparations
Because descendants of slaves from this country would never oppose descendants of slaves from any country in the world getting theirs
If France said we fucked Haiti over we apologize
The descendants of slaves from Haiti get x and y
I'd say omg hell fucking yes! Get your money owed and just due
I would not say well playa you live in America now so idk if you really need to get any of those reparations
Or what about us are we not black and descendants of slaves too?
Or this is just a tool to divide us----cause it wouldn't be itd be a great day and cause for celebration for all of us cause now that Haiti is getting there's it sets a precedent for American slave descendants to get theirs
It's really not a problem or hard thing to track at all lol
Cause we can track when an influx of black ppl not from America got here
I just dont get how it's an attack it doesn't say anyone is less than.....
It says the ppl who went thru the trauma here are owed
And if ppl cared about the ppl who were here and are together with the ppl who are here like we claim to be.... Then it won't be an attack it'll be a celebration.
It's not reparations from the world....
If it was reparations from Canada for the Canadian black people descendants of slaves
I would have no claim to it nor would I be upset
I'd say America gotta be next
OK... but that isn't what these dudes were saying in these threads cuz.
What you saying is common sense.
But I would like to just reiterate ONCE again...
WE (I hope that is OK @Drayonis etc) and I am speaking as a non ADOS apparently by whatever definition
and for the few people who actually UNDERSTAND what this movement is about?
We do NOT want or are ASKING for ya'll money.
I think that is what is being PRESENTED and how honestly I was even told about all this in the FIRST place.
So yeah I was like - what the f*ck is THAT about?
and THAT is where the DIVISION is...
No one... from what I gather?
is saying ya'll do not DESERVE reparations, that your NOT enslaved people...
I hate to say this...and I CANNOT believe I am saying this but
its almost on some Black Lives Matter sh*t
and now TYPING it out?
I'm a little embarrassed to admit this.
but I think the NAME...American Descendants of Slaves
is where this MAYBE all this started (also having the WRONG people speak and define your message)
Cause If I am born HERE and I am from Africa or Haiti whatever...
by DEFINITION?
I am a American Descendant of Slaves
And honestly to answer another question?
I don't think I would feel comfortable ACCEPTING personal reparations from France. I was not BORN there.
To my COUNTRY to Haiti? Yes... and the funding closely monitored, transparent and subject to votes on its usage?
Yes.
But this is just ME on that PARTICULAR topic.
It is NOT my place to talk on ADOS... apparently.
But Bills I will say this DIVISION within US? Aint NEVER been good no matter what.
ESPECIALLY when the division is being created unnecessarily and nonsensically
They created and starting a fight with people who have no idea WHY they being pushed.
I don't want want be part of the club, but don't much me in the face when I'm just walking by.