Trump’s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

crossovernegro

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But Paul Manifort(sp?) was there and he is/was not inexperienced. There is no way that he wouldn't know it was shady but he has Russia so far up his ass that he just didn't care enough to think of the optics should it get out.

They should have had other people meet with the Russians. They were so inexperienced they had real people go meet with other political operatives.
 

BDR

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well China is definity funneling money into both parties since the 90s

GOP got caught taking money from China that was clearly targeted to influence elections that's where the campaign laws came into play
 

crossovernegro

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It was never that they were the two best possible candidates... Just the two willing to run and that could get enough votes. No doubt there are better potential candidates out there but they are either too smart to put themselves in the mix or if they did, they wouldn't get the votes.
At least Hillary is competent though... Same for every one of his republican opponents save maybe Rick perry(still can't believe he passed the bar exam). I hate Ted Cruz but him being President wouldn't have me totally losing all respect for the country.

If he and Hillary were the best two possible candidates to lead this country and "he" according to "them" is the best of the two. Then we have much much bigger problems than we could have ever imagined.
 

ViCiouS

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It was never that they were the two best possible candidates... Just the two willing to run and that could get enough votes. No doubt there are better potential candidates out there but they are either too smart to put themselves in the mix or if they did, they wouldn't get the votes.
At least Hillary is competent though... Same for every one of his republican opponents save maybe Rick perry(still can't believe he passed the bar exam). I hate Ted Cruz but him being President wouldn't have me totally losing all respect for the country.

fuck Ted Cruz - ol grandpa munster queer - only eats soup? what kind of Texan trusts a man that only eats soup?
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ViCiouS

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the democratic base isn't listening to NPR the same way the republican base doesn't read the Wall Street Journal

the base voters for both parties and imo basically most americans have always been uninformed or under informed
but now its worse because social media has these uninformed folk swimming in rumors and fantasy masked as news
 

Non-StopJFK2TAB

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the democratic base isn't listening to NPR the same way the republican base doesn't read the Wall Street Journal

the base voters for both parties and imo basically most americans have always been uninformed or under informed
but now its worse because social media has these uninformed folk swimming in rumors and fantasy masked as news
And the really sad part is they can differentiate between real news and nonsense.
 

darth frosty

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Mental Illness is more prevalent in this country than many realize. It's to the point where some peoples biases are so powerful that they've moved beyond the state of delusion. They have in-fact created their own reality and anything that would challenge that reality is in full haste discarded.

I was watching this psychology video and this cat was saying how fear and stress lowers intelligence. He went on to say how there has been a measurable decline among Americans intelligence since 9/11.
 

tical

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I was watching this psychology video and this cat was saying how fear and stress lowers intelligence. He went on to say how there has been a measurable decline among Americans intelligence since 9/11.

Fam,

I highly recommend everyone take at least a basic Psychology class. The discipline is amazing and will both fascinate and scare you to death. The lengths our unconscious is willing to go, in-order to protect our fragile reasoning, ego, and beliefs are startling. Moreover, we would swear up and down our reasoning, beliefs, and decision-making process is perfectly intact, full fidelity, having not been influenced by any external forces and of course we would be dead as wrong!

Every aspect of our sleeping and waking state is molested(Yes, Molested!) to some degree by the thousands of stimuli and suggestions we are exposed to every thousandth of a second of each day. Hell, Some are damn near raped with Anesthesia. Swearing, afterwards, that gaping hole in their stomach has always been there.

Politics, for me, is starting to become the ultimate character study of where social Psychology creates mental instability.
 

BigDaddyBuk

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the democratic base isn't listening to NPR the same way the republican base doesn't read the Wall Street Journal

the base voters for both parties and imo basically most americans have always been uninformed or under informed
but now its worse because social media has these uninformed folk swimming in rumors and fantasy masked as news
I posted facts. Youre admittedly posting your private unsubstantiated opinion.

That sir, means you're wrong.
 

ViCiouS

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I posted facts. Youre admittedly posting your private unsubstantiated opinion.

That sir, means you're wrong.
:lol:
ok- think about this-
what are NPR's average number of daily listeners + unique daily visitors
what is the WSJ's circulation + unique daily visitors

where are they strongest geographically for both criteria?
 

BigDaddyBuk

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:lol:
ok- think about this-
what are NPR's average number of daily listeners + unique daily visitors
what is the WSJ's circulation + unique daily visitors

where are they strongest geographically for both criteria?
If you can't post a documented fact to prove your position, please stop debating this.
 

ViCiouS

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If you can't post a documented fact to prove your position, please stop debating this.
I just posted the context for you - the article you posted made an assumption that you still persist in

its just foolish to imagine that the majority of democratic voters listen to or visit NPR
a glance at ratings quickly proves that false
its even more foolish to compare Fox News viewership to NPR

under informed no how you twist it is ignorant and vulnerable to misinformation
 

Camille

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Mental Illness is more prevalent in this country than many realize. It's to the point where some peoples biases are so powerful that they've moved beyond the state of delusion. They have in-fact created their own reality and anything that would challenge that reality is in full haste discarded.

I'm having discussions with Trump voters daily on another forum. They are freaking delusional. I said Trump Jr is a liar from a family of liars, he can't be trusted, he is just more polished than his family. One guy asked me how I knew he was lying and not the media. I said because he is the one denying meetings or contacts with Russia regarding Hillary for the past year, is on video saying it was disgusting to even suggest it, and then he freaking releases the emails stating they had a meeting about precisely that proving their denials for the past year were lies. Then he asks if I can't give him the benefit of the doubt about not remembering a meeting that was so long ago. I said YEAH, IF THIS WAS THE FIRST FREAKING TIME HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT. He was asked about it a few weeks after the meeting, and he doesn't remember a meeting they required a translator in to proceed? SMH. Freaking lost I tell you.
 

Camille

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Sadly, there are stories like that all the time. Hell, I know some local black churches where the members are terrified of sending their kids off to college. Mainly, because their kids may end up questioning what they've been taught by the church.

This is not normally a characteristic of black churches. Promotion of education and social justice are intertwined in the culture. Wisdom is always emphasized, getting knowledge and understanding. Things could have changed from the time I was an active church goer, but churches have traditionally have served as a place of learning. They were always safe spaces. White congregations strike me more as fearful to the point they come across as believing something could emerge that would disprove or challenge the existence of God, but that has not been my experience in black churches.
 

Non-StopJFK2TAB

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I'm having discussions with Trump voters daily on another forum. They are freaking delusional. I said Trump Jr is a liar from a family of liars, he can't be trusted, he is just more polished than his family. One guy asked me how I knew he was lying and not the media. I said because he is the one denying meetings or contacts with Russia regarding Hillary for the past year, is on video saying it was disgusting to even suggest it, and then he freaking releases the emails stating they had a meeting about precisely that proving their denials for the past year were lies. Then he asks if I can't give him the benefit of the doubt about not remembering a meeting that was so long ago. I said YEAH, IF THIS WAS THE FIRST FREAKING TIME HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT. He was asked about it a few weeks after the meeting, and he doesn't remember a meeting they required a translator in to proceed? SMH. Freaking lost I tell you.
You're wasting your time and you don't care.
 

tical

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I'm having discussions with Trump voters daily on another forum. They are freaking delusional. I said Trump Jr is a liar from a family of liars, he can't be trusted, he is just more polished than his family. One guy asked me how I knew he was lying and not the media. I said because he is the one denying meetings or contacts with Russia regarding Hillary for the past year, is on video saying it was disgusting to even suggest it, and then he freaking releases the emails stating they had a meeting about precisely that proving their denials for the past year were lies. Then he asks if I can't give him the benefit of the doubt about not remembering a meeting that was so long ago. I said YEAH, IF THIS WAS THE FIRST FREAKING TIME HE WAS ASKED ABOUT IT. He was asked about it a few weeks after the meeting, and he doesn't remember a meeting they required a translator in to proceed? SMH. Freaking lost I tell you.

It gets to a point where you have to realize and accept these people are absolutely serious. Barring some catastrophic incident, shattering the cog of their delusion, your fancy to logically win them over..is highly illogical(RIP Spock)!
 

fonzerrillii

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But Paul Manifort(sp?) was there and he is/was not inexperienced. There is no way that he wouldn't know it was shady but he has Russia so far up his ass that he just didn't care enough to think of the optics should it get out.

This is the part where the Repubs completely lose me with there "oh this was nothing" excuses...

Paul Manifort Fucking worked like 6 years in the Ukraine for one of Putins Guys. He maintained an office in fucking Moscow and a married a Russian chick. He has connections all over Russia and are you seriously telling me that Paul wouldn't have been able to hit up someone in Eastern Europe to see if this woman had legit information. Paul didn't new to because he knew good and fucking well what the true business was for that meeting...

Dude was there because of he could verify if the translator was translating right. He was there to check on the strength of the information. And he was there because I guarantee that one of his contacts told him that he needed to be at the meeting...

I mean.... 3 of the highest ranking people in Trumps campaign all took the fucking time to sit down in a meeting and speak with a Russian Lawyer just for Opposition research. :hmm:
 

Camille

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You're wasting your time and you don't care.


No more than I am over here. It's a Christian forum and when someone responds with something bat shit crazy, I sort of enjoy asking "Are you serious?' And then posting what really happened. There are some bright lights where people actually think, and not everyone over there is Christian, there are a bunch of atheists that like to just mess with them, argue and debate, but I hate seeing people deceived. I also sometimes post links for all the messed up stuff white people do since there are a bunch of racists over there, too.
 

fonzerrillii

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It gets to a point where you have to realize and accept these people are absolutely serious. Barring some catastrophic incident, shattering the cog of their delusion, your fancy to logically win them over..is highly illogical(RIP Spock)!

Man one of my associates voted for dude... Chick is working in an office full of liberals. I've always wanted to ask her why she voted for Trump but I know that her answer would piss me off and I'd likely let her go... and I love money to much to do that shit. Lol

Chick is consistent with her billing. Lol
 

Camille

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This needs as thread if it's not already posted. I'm not going to make one for the main board, and y'all never venture over to the politics section so I'm putting it here.

 

Non-StopJFK2TAB

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No more than I am over here. It's a Christian forum and when someone responds with something bat shit crazy, I sort of enjoy asking "Are you serious?' And then posting what really happened. There are some bright lights where people actually think, and not everyone over there is Christian, there are a bunch of atheists that like to just mess with them, argue and debate, but I hate seeing people deceived. I also sometimes post links for all the messed up stuff white people do since there are a bunch of racists over there, too.
It's a Christian forum that harbors misinformation, racists that enjoy debating. And you think they're batshit crazy? Look in the mirror, sweetheart.
 

Camille

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It's a Christian forum that harbors misinformation, racists that enjoy debating. And you think they're batshit crazy? Look in the mirror, sweetheart.

Likewise. Look around here. We have flat earthers and everything else. Black folk who hate their own. It's no different than over here.
 

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BigDaddyBuk

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I just posted the context for you - the article you posted made an assumption that you still persist in

its just foolish to imagine that the majority of democratic voters listen to or visit NPR
a glance at ratings quickly proves that false
its even more foolish to compare Fox News viewership to NPR

under informed no how you twist it is ignorant and vulnerable to misinformation
Your methodology to derive your opinion might be interesting to some folks.

I only deal in facts.

You haven't presented one yet.

Please stop responding to me until you can show where democratic voters are misinformed like republicans are.

NOTHING supports that idea.

Proof: Republicans Really Are Dumber Than Democrats
 
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