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Greg Berlanti’s ‘Green Lantern’ HBO Max Series Loses Showrunner Seth Grahame-Smith

By Jordan Moreau
October 26, 2022 7:01am PT

Greg Berlanti’s ‘Green Lantern’ HBO Max Series Loses Showrunner Seth Grahame-Smith

The "Green Lantern" HBO Max series has lost its showrunner and will now focus on John Stewart.
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Green Lantern’s brightest day is still yet to come.

Executive producer Greg Berlanti’s upcoming “Green Lantern” HBO Max series, which has long been in development, has hit another speed bump by losing its co-writer and showrunner Seth Grahame-Smith, Variety has confirmed. The show is also being redeveloped to shift focus from Green Lantern characters Guy Gardner and Alan Scott to John Stewart, one of the first major Black DC Comics characters. Finn Wittrock and Jeremy Irvine were cast in 2021 as Gardner and Scott, but they are no longer signed onto the show.

Before exiting, Grahame-Smith had finished the scripts for a full, eight-episode season. Berlanti Productions, which has an overall deal with Warner Bros. Television, is still signed onto the show.

“Green Lantern” was first in development in 2019, then greenlit by HBO Max in 2020 with the addition of Grahame-Smith and co-writer and executive producer Marc Guggenheim. It was originally envisioned to follow the space adventures of multiple Green Lanterns like Gardner and Scott, who was DC Comics’ first Lantern and one of its first openly gay characters, plus Jessica Cruz, Simon Baz, Sinestro, Kilowog and other brand new characters. “Green Lantern” will now get an entirely new logline as it moves back into early development.

Grahame-Smith’s departure comes in the wake of the Warner Bros.-Discovery merger and other shake-ups at Warner Bros. TV and DC Films, including the recent exit of executive Walter Hamada. The “Green Lantern” news predates Tuesday’s bombshell that James Gunn and Peter Safran will now lead DC Studios’ film, TV and animation departments. Their posts don’t begin until Nov. 1.

Hollywood Reporter was first to report the news.

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James Gunn On DC Plans & Leaving Marvel ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy’ Sandbox

James Gunn On Leaving Marvel, DC Plans, & ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy Holiday Special'
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James Gunn On DC Plans & Leaving Marvel ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy’ Sandbox

By Anthony D'Alessandro
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James Gunn revealed on Twitter today in response to a fan’s question that he and new DC Studios co-head Peter Safran are planning to reveal their new DC plan to the Warner Discovery team in the next two months.

“Yes, that is true (revealing it to the WBD team)” wrote Gunn on Twitter.

Safran and Gunn were appointed the heads of DC Studios, a separate silo that Warner Discovery Boss David Zaslav wanted under the studio’s motion picture umbrella, on Oct. 25. Gunn going forward remains exclusive to WarnerDiscovery and can’t do any Marvel projects, his last ones for the Disney studio being The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special which drops on Black Friday, Nov. 25, and Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3 which hits theaters on May 5, 2023.

https://deadline.com/2022/11/warner...vid-zaslav-peter-safran-town-hall-1235169138/

When asked by Deadline recently how he felt about leaving the Marvel Guardians of the Galaxy sandbox behind for DC, Gunn responded “I feel really comfortable. I feel really good. We did this. I think this is a bit of goofy fun that the Guardians needed as an aperitif for Volume 3, which is an enormous film. I had a plan from the beginning.”
“The reason why I needed to finish this is because I love the character of Rocket more than any character I’ve ever dealt with before, and I needed to finish his story and that is what Volume 3 is about. I absolutely needed to do it, and I think we’ve done it in a spectacular way that I can’t wait for people to see.”
In regards to who Marvel will leave the Guardians franchise to, Gunn commented, “It’s not ever going to be the same group of characters for a lot of different reasons. Who knows what will happen with the Guardians franchise in regards to future characters, but in terms of this group of characters, this is the end of their story.”
Between two movies, The Guardians of the Galaxy franchise has amassed $1.6 billion.
Gunn and Safran, held a town hall at Warner Discovery last week with CEO David Zaslav, about their new appointments and their m.o. for a cohesive universe between film, TV, gaming, etc. While Gunn didn’t mention anything about new projects, the former said he has a penchant for such DC superheroes as Metal Men and Bat-mite.

 
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Black Adam's HBO Max Release Timing Couldn't Be Worse

Given all the latest news from DC Studios, Black Adam's streaming release on HBO Max feels less momentous than previously expected and hoped for.

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PUBLISHED 7 HOURS AGO


Black Adam releases on HBO Max on December 16, 2022, but the timing of its streaming debut now feels anticlimactic. When Black Adam was released in cinemas in October 2022, many expected the movie to be a big hit for Warner Bros. Discovery given Dwayne Johnson’s star power and a surprising return for Henry Cavill’s Superman. Touted as a fresh direction for the DCU, Black Adam introduced both a new antihero and another flagship superhero team with the Justice Society of America, and yet the movie fell short of expectations both critically and at the box office.

Now Black Adam will release on HBO Max just two months after its theatrical premiere following a global box office haul of less than $400 million. As a result, the movie is likely to mean a loss for DC Studios and Warner Bros. Discovery, given Black Adam’s generous production budget and massive marketing campaign. It’s hard to forget, however, that in those two short months between Black Adam’s cinema release and its debut on HBO Max, there has been a momentous shift in management for the DCU, affecting not only this movie but everything else DC Studios still has on its release slate.

Black Adam 2 May Already Be Dead

Dwayne Johnson previously maintained that Black Adam would be a stepping stone to a Black Adam and Superman face-off, foregoing the character’s connection with Shazam’s lore. With Black Adam performing below expectations, however, the chance of a Black Adam sequel is looking slim. It’s hard to ignore the signs that new DC Studios heads James Gunn and Peter Safran will be taking the DCU in an entirely new direction, having already decided against Patty Jenkins’ treatment for Wonder Woman 3, as well as officially announcing that Henry Cavill will not be returning as Superman in the future after all.

Though Black Adam is a new character for the DCU, the movie is still very much tied to previous narrative threads and characters that were established under the old regime. Black Adam featured not only a Superman cameo but one from Viola Davis’s Amanda Waller, inextricably linking Black Adam’s franchise future with other current DC properties that are likely to be phased out over the coming months and years. Unless Black Adam does unexpectedly well on HBO Max, its future is uncertain at best – especially as the streaming service is itself currently facing troubling cancelations and sudden removals at the moment.


Black Adam's Post-Credits Scene Doesn't Work On HBO Max

Given that one of Black Adam’s major draws was Henry Cavill’s return as Superman, it seems unlikely that Black Adam will perform much better on streaming. Despite only being part of a post-credit scene, Cavill’s return to the big screen as Superman was hailed a success and gave audiences hope for the character’s future. The scene even used John Williams’s iconic Superman score as a way of signaling to viewers that Superman’s future was bolder and brighter than ever. This was not to last, however, as now, it has officially been announced that Cavill will not be continuing his role as the Man of Steel.

But watching Black Adam for that specific scene now doesn’t have the same attraction – the tease of a Black Adam versus Superman confrontation is now unlikely to lead anywhere. And while Black Adam as a movie can certainly be enjoyed as a standalone adventure, and not every comic book movie needs to be connected to a larger universe, the critical reception for Black Adam’s narrative was middling at best, with the movie winning audiences over with big action spectacles instead that play better on the big screen in a theater than on a TV at home.

Black Adam Should've Been Huge On HBO Max

It has to be noted that not every movie that underperforms at the cinema suffers the same fate once it hits streaming. In fact, some perform much better on streaming than predicted. There are plenty of movies that people are willing to wait for to watch at home, especially as the pandemic and rising prices have justifiably made audiences apprehensive about heading to theaters. Black Adam could very well just be a fun weekend movie to watch at home in order to catch up on what the DCU has been up to and where it might be going, particularly during the holiday season.

However, with the changing of the guard at DC Studios and the incredible number of rumors and news items in circulation concerning the DCU franchise's future, it’s easy to imagine that audiences won't be as excited to watch a movie that, despite being connected to what came before, has very little chance of moving things forward for the future. It’s a shame, as Dwayne Johnson's Black Adam, the world of Kahndaq, and the introduction of the Justice Society of America all had potential. Black Adam’s HBO Max release now feels underwhelming, a consolation prize marking the slow end of an era.

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Black Adam's HBO Max Release Timing Couldn't Be Worse

Given all the latest news from DC Studios, Black Adam's streaming release on HBO Max feels less momentous than previously expected and hoped for.

EL KUIPER
PUBLISHED 7 HOURS AGO


Black Adam releases on HBO Max on December 16, 2022, but the timing of its streaming debut now feels anticlimactic. When Black Adam was released in cinemas in October 2022, many expected the movie to be a big hit for Warner Bros. Discovery given Dwayne Johnson’s star power and a surprising return for Henry Cavill’s Superman. Touted as a fresh direction for the DCU, Black Adam introduced both a new antihero and another flagship superhero team with the Justice Society of America, and yet the movie fell short of expectations both critically and at the box office.

Now Black Adam will release on HBO Max just two months after its theatrical premiere following a global box office haul of less than $400 million. As a result, the movie is likely to mean a loss for DC Studios and Warner Bros. Discovery, given Black Adam’s generous production budget and massive marketing campaign. It’s hard to forget, however, that in those two short months between Black Adam’s cinema release and its debut on HBO Max, there has been a momentous shift in management for the DCU, affecting not only this movie but everything else DC Studios still has on its release slate.

Black Adam 2 May Already Be Dead

Dwayne Johnson previously maintained that Black Adam would be a stepping stone to a Black Adam and Superman face-off, foregoing the character’s connection with Shazam’s lore. With Black Adam performing below expectations, however, the chance of a Black Adam sequel is looking slim. It’s hard to ignore the signs that new DC Studios heads James Gunn and Peter Safran will be taking the DCU in an entirely new direction, having already decided against Patty Jenkins’ treatment for Wonder Woman 3, as well as officially announcing that Henry Cavill will not be returning as Superman in the future after all.

Though Black Adam is a new character for the DCU, the movie is still very much tied to previous narrative threads and characters that were established under the old regime. Black Adam featured not only a Superman cameo but one from Viola Davis’s Amanda Waller, inextricably linking Black Adam’s franchise future with other current DC properties that are likely to be phased out over the coming months and years. Unless Black Adam does unexpectedly well on HBO Max, its future is uncertain at best – especially as the streaming service is itself currently facing troubling cancelations and sudden removals at the moment.


Black Adam's Post-Credits Scene Doesn't Work On HBO Max

Given that one of Black Adam’s major draws was Henry Cavill’s return as Superman, it seems unlikely that Black Adam will perform much better on streaming. Despite only being part of a post-credit scene, Cavill’s return to the big screen as Superman was hailed a success and gave audiences hope for the character’s future. The scene even used John Williams’s iconic Superman score as a way of signaling to viewers that Superman’s future was bolder and brighter than ever. This was not to last, however, as now, it has officially been announced that Cavill will not be continuing his role as the Man of Steel.

But watching Black Adam for that specific scene now doesn’t have the same attraction – the tease of a Black Adam versus Superman confrontation is now unlikely to lead anywhere. And while Black Adam as a movie can certainly be enjoyed as a standalone adventure, and not every comic book movie needs to be connected to a larger universe, the critical reception for Black Adam’s narrative was middling at best, with the movie winning audiences over with big action spectacles instead that play better on the big screen in a theater than on a TV at home.

Black Adam Should've Been Huge On HBO Max

It has to be noted that not every movie that underperforms at the cinema suffers the same fate once it hits streaming. In fact, some perform much better on streaming than predicted. There are plenty of movies that people are willing to wait for to watch at home, especially as the pandemic and rising prices have justifiably made audiences apprehensive about heading to theaters. Black Adam could very well just be a fun weekend movie to watch at home in order to catch up on what the DCU has been up to and where it might be going, particularly during the holiday season.

However, with the changing of the guard at DC Studios and the incredible number of rumors and news items in circulation concerning the DCU franchise's future, it’s easy to imagine that audiences won't be as excited to watch a movie that, despite being connected to what came before, has very little chance of moving things forward for the future. It’s a shame, as Dwayne Johnson's Black Adam, the world of Kahndaq, and the introduction of the Justice Society of America all had potential. Black Adam’s HBO Max release now feels underwhelming, a consolation prize marking the slow end of an era.

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I actually am going to go out on a limb here

I think Black Adam is going to do well on hbo max

I believe all the controversy etc will bring eyeballs

Let's see.
 
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playahaitian said:
I actually am going to go out on a limb here

I think Black Adam is going to do well on hbo max

I believe all the controversy etc will bring eyeballs

Let's see.
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Moneywise, it’s not gonna make a difference cuz folks already paid for it long before the movie debuted back in October. I have a HBO MAX account.

It will do well in viewership during the Christmas/New Years break cuz kids are out of school and a lot of adults taking vacation.

After New Year’s, it will fall into the HBO MAX section for DC stuff and blend in with everything else.
 

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