Ukraine needs to give up or fight to the death. Enough is enough. Stop giving them money already!!!

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That money is going right into Ukraine strongmen pockets and they know it. That's why Zelensky fired them defense dudes for corruption.

This could turn out as bad or worse than Afghanistan in terms of grift

Bullshit.

Prove it. Name ONE Ukrainian "strongman".

I have ZERO love for Eastern Europeans, generally speaking, as they are some of the most racist assholes on the planet.

I do, however, try to keep abreast of global politics, and I know that if Ukraine falls to Russia, Putin will become dictator over the largest nation in Europe, and will not only control its main source of oil and gas, but food as well. The consequences for US will be direct, and immediate. You clearly do not understand them.

If you are too uniformed to understand the repercussions of such a calamity, I suggest you educate yourself before making ass backward, visceral statements such as the above.
 

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Bullshit.

Prove it. Name ONE Ukrainian "strongman".

I have ZERO love for Eastern Europeans, generally speaking, as they are some of the most racist assholes on the planet.

I do, however, try to keep abreast of global politics, and I know that if Ukraine falls to Russia, Putin will become dictator over the largest nation in Europe, and will not only control its main source of oil and gas, but food as well.

If you are too uniformed to understand the repercussions of such a calamity, I suggest you educate yourself before making ass backward, visceral statements such as the above.
I'm willing to listen further brotha... Please explain the repercussions for the U.S. so that we can be fully informed.
 

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Back in the day, Randi Rhodes would give you all that information. The name of every beneficiary in the US and abroad. Right now I don't know who. Lockheed Martin probably has the biggest contracts.
She still does. Free Speech TV. It's on basic cable.
 

Madrox

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.. another thing I noticed is how we never seem to hear these other dudes (Putin, the Chinese President, etc.) actually speak. We always seem to hear third party quotes or best guesses and assumptions based on how actions are portrayed.

Why do we seem to get so little coverage of other countries leaders speaking straight from the horses mouth? Am I buggin?
 
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Bullshit.

Prove it. Name ONE Ukrainian "strongman".

I have ZERO love for Eastern Europeans, generally speaking, as they are some of the most racist assholes on the planet.

I do, however, try to keep abreast of global politics, and I know that if Ukraine falls to Russia, Putin will become dictator over the largest nation in Europe, and will not only control its main source of oil and gas, but food as well. The consequences for US will be direct, and immediate. You clearly do not understand them.

If you are too uniformed to understand the repercussions of such a calamity, I suggest you educate yourself before making ass backward, visceral statements such as the above.

1. I don't have to prove shit to you guy. Believe what you want. And go outside and get some pussy or something, you're rather irritable for no reason.

2. If you would read a couple posts further you'd see the article I posted and you wouldn't have posted this garbage.

Bad day to you sir.
 

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I'm willing to listen further brotha... Please explain the repercussions for the U.S. so that we can be fully informed.

Our most important allies: France, UK, basically, Western Europe. If Ukraine (the largest country in Europe, as well as the biggest producer of food (grain)) comes under Putin's thumb, those countries can either fall in line with Russia, or face significant backlash in the form of food and fuel shortages. THIS will, without question, lead eventually to armed conflict-it always does. Hitler had to be stopped-so does Putin. If you question this, our discussion will last hours, perhaps days.

Putin is not burning Jews, but he is the dictator of perhaps the most racist nation on the planet. If they gain significant power, what do you thing that means for you and me? Forget traveling freely, as the racist policies of Russia will bleed into historically African AMERICAN friendly places such as France and Belgium. It means you and I have fewer places to find refuge from THIS particular hell, should we choose to do so.

Without aid from the U.S., the rest of Europe will easily fall into Putin's sphere of influence. It means you have made the second most powerful totalitarian state (China holds that title currently) VASTLY more powerful. Once they find and establish comradery with China, forget about event thinking about a free world. The pressure that ensue will leave the U.S. in the position where even rational citizens will crave a STRONG MAN, willing to use the constitution as toilet paper in order to secure a few half decent jobs for the white and privileged among us.

Needless to say, neither your nor I are likely to be considered on of the favored few.
 

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1. I don't have to prove shit to you guy. Believe what you want. And go outside and get some pussy or something, you're rather irritable for no reason.

2. If you would read a couple posts further you'd see the article I posted and you wouldn't have posted this garbage.

Bad day to you sir.

In other words, you CAN'T prove it.

Covering your lack of education with insults is hoe shit.

Just sayin'.

Hoe.
 

850credit

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In other words, you CAN'T prove it.

Covering your lack of education with insults is hoe shit.

Just sayin'.

Hoe.

Damn some of you guys are socially inept weirdos on here. Going back and forth with the likes of you on here ain't my type of entertainment. Don't get mad, get a life.

You came at me with disrespect so you got the same in return.

Get your last word in and move on!
 

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.. another thing I noticed is how we never seem to hear these other dudes (Putin, the Chinese President, etc.) actually speak. We always seem to hear third party quotes or best guesses and assumptions based on how actions are portrayed.

Why do we seem to get so little coverage of other countries leaders speaking straight from the horses mouth? Am I buggin?
This is part of the western media spitting out propaganda against anything Russian. Also part of the plan is to not let any Russian news get out at all.

Russia has never stated that they wanted to conquer Ukraine, but despite no evidence of him ever saying this, people here on this board are still spouting this narrative.
 

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Damn some of you guys are socially inept weirdos on here. Going back and forth with the likes of you on here ain't my type of entertainment. Don't get mad, get a life.

You came at me with disrespect so you got the same in return.

Get your last word in and move on!

No, I actually asked you to prove what you said.

A man stands behind what he says. If, when questioned, he examines
his position and finds it wrong, he adjusts his postion.

All you did was start an argument on a porn forum.

And you STILL have not provided ANY support of your statement...

which means your are either full of shit or spreading someone else's bullshit,
completely oblivious to whether it is right or wrong.

Just like magats.

No offense intended (initially). But a belligerent attitude when one is asked to expound on a statement
made belies a lack of knowledge.

In other words, you just talkin'. Much talk, little substance.
 

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This is part of the western media spitting out propaganda against anything Russian. Also part of the plan is to not let any Russian news get out at all.

Russia has never stated that they wanted to conquer Ukraine, but despite no evidence of him ever saying this, people here on this board are still spouting this narrative.
Actually, Putin has repeatedly, even in writing, insisted that Ukraine is not a "real" nation at all. He also consistently insists the Russian people and the Ukrainian people are one and the same. This was his excuse for recent ventures into Ukraine prior to the all out war.
 

notreally

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.. another thing I noticed is how we never seem to hear these other dudes (Putin, the Chinese President, etc.) actually speak. We always seem to hear third party quotes or best guesses and assumptions based on how actions are portrayed.

Why do we seem to get so little coverage of other countries leaders speaking straight from the horses mouth? Am I buggin?
One major reason is that even the pretense of a free press is laughable in these countries.

I heard a piece on NPR a couple of years back. The (British) journalist entered China, at a location and time NOT disclosed to the government. Within 20 minutes time, the Government was able to find the EXACT location of said journalist. That is how sophisticated their surveillance system is ALREADY.

How many journalists do you think will ask unfriendly questions under such a regime? I, for one, would not. Would you, as a journalist, ask such questions of individuals with this kind of power, who CLEARLY are not fond of what you do and who you are?
 

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Our most important allies: France, UK, basically, Western Europe. If Ukraine (the largest country in Europe, as well as the biggest producer of food (grain)) comes under Putin's thumb, those countries can either fall in line with Russia, or face significant backlash in the form of food and fuel shortages. THIS will, without question, lead eventually to armed conflict-it always does. Hitler had to be stopped-so does Putin. If you question this, our discussion will last hours, perhaps days.

Putin is not burning Jews, but he is the dictator of perhaps the most racist nation on the planet. If they gain significant power, what do you thing that means for you and me? Forget traveling freely, as the racist policies of Russia will bleed into historically African AMERICAN friendly places such as France and Belgium. It means you and I have fewer places to find refuge from THIS particular hell, should we choose to do so.

Without aid from the U.S., the rest of Europe will easily fall into Putin's sphere of influence. It means you have made the second most powerful totalitarian state (China holds that title currently) VASTLY more powerful. Once they find and establish comradery with China, forget about event thinking about a free world. The pressure that ensue will leave the U.S. in the position where even rational citizens will crave a STRONG MAN, willing to use the constitution as toilet paper in order to secure a few half decent jobs for the white and privileged among us.

Needless to say, neither your nor I are likely to be considered on of the favored few.
Wow. Man, what YouTube channel have you been watching?
 

Madrox

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Our most important allies: France, UK, basically, Western Europe. If Ukraine (the largest country in Europe, as well as the biggest producer of food (grain)) comes under Putin's thumb, those countries can either fall in line with Russia, or face significant backlash in the form of food and fuel shortages. THIS will, without question, lead eventually to armed conflict-it always does. Hitler had to be stopped-so does Putin. If you question this, our discussion will last hours, perhaps days.

Putin is not burning Jews, but he is the dictator of perhaps the most racist nation on the planet. If they gain significant power, what do you thing that means for you and me? Forget traveling freely, as the racist policies of Russia will bleed into historically African AMERICAN friendly places such as France and Belgium. It means you and I have fewer places to find refuge from THIS particular hell, should we choose to do so.

Without aid from the U.S., the rest of Europe will easily fall into Putin's sphere of influence. It means you have made the second most powerful totalitarian state (China holds that title currently) VASTLY more powerful. Once they find and establish comradery with China, forget about event thinking about a free world. The pressure that ensue will leave the U.S. in the position where even rational citizens will crave a STRONG MAN, willing to use the constitution as toilet paper in order to secure a few half decent jobs for the white and privileged among us.

Needless to say, neither your nor I are likely to be considered on of the favored few.
Why do we trade with China at all? Why does Europe still trade with Russia at all if these countries are so evil? Why do business with them if they're all just a bunch of psychopaths?

Same time: What's good with all this Neo Nazism purportedly in Ukraine?

I get it someone's got to be in charge, obviously better me than my adversary and I'd rather it be us. But seems to me that at the end of the day it's economic rather than good and evil. ESPECIALLY for these cats in charge. They'll negotiate and end this eventually because eventually it'll be in everyone's best economic interest.

Oh and the cost of us doing business using money that could be spent fixing our own issues is the cherry on top of a shit sundae.
 
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One major reason is that even the pretense of a free press is laughable in these countries.

I heard a piece on NPR a couple of years back. The (British) journalist entered China, at a location and time NOT disclosed to the government. Within 20 minutes time, the Government was able to find the EXACT location of said journalist. That is how sophisticated their surveillance system is ALREADY.

How many journalists do you think will ask unfriendly questions under such a regime? I, for one, would not. Would you, as a journalist, ask such questions of individuals with this kind of power, who CLEARLY are not fond of what you do and who you are?
I feel you man, shit is fucked up in other countries for sure.

My main thing is here, at home, we live in a country where there are still parts of this place I don't feel safe visiting because of the color of my skin, same skin will get me shot and killed any given Sunday if I find myself amongst the wrong men in blue that are supposed to protect all of us... and now turns out the same government penny pinching for my fonky student loans is turning round and paying the salaries of public employees in Eastern Europe.

We don't really have room to speak down on other countries when we need to clean our own house. Can we fix our own shit first, or is there always going to be the next proxy forever-war for these folks to draw our attention to?
 
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Why did Russia invade Ukraine? See Oliver Stone's film

Why else would a CAC like Putin be kissing the ass of China, and NK? Why has Russia’s main weapon been the Iranian suicide drone.. again this was supposedly the second most powerful military in the world

And Oliver Stone lol
 

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What makes you think they are running out of bombs? Because he met with Kim Jong? Nobody knows what that shit was about. Also that’s the last country he’d ask for weapons with their outdated trash. He’d go to China if he needed weapons.
You’re very uninformed about this situation NK has a super stockpile of soviet era artillery shells…. and Putin has already went to China for weapons which they have been secretly given.
 

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You’re very uninformed about this situation NK has a super stockpile of soviet era artillery shells…. and Putin has already went to China for weapons which they have been secretly given.
LOL 50 year old useless trash weapons ain’t doing shit
 

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Why else would a CAC like Putin be kissing the ass of China, and NK? Why has Russia’s main weapon been the Iranian suicide drone.. again this was supposedly the second most powerful military in the world

And Oliver Stone lol
Watch the film and then comment?

Why did Russia invade Ukraine. A simple question that seems some people cannot answer.
 

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They keep begging for money . Either the rest of the world needs to feed them money or just give up. Why the fuck we have to keep paying this bullshit . Who gives a fuck about them cacs
because the whites you voted for support other whites and dont give a shit about your black ass
 

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Actually, Putin has repeatedly, even in writing, insisted that Ukraine is not a "real" nation at all. He also consistently insists the Russian people and the Ukrainian people are one and the same. This was his excuse for recent ventures into Ukraine prior to the all out war.
I asked the question on whether Russia were willing to conquer Ukraine. That was not the reason for invading Ukraine
 

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Watch the film and then comment?

Why did Russia invade Ukraine. A simple question that seems some people cannot answer.

Depends on what side of the coin you fall you’re either on the Threatened by NATO Tin Foil side or you’re woke and you understand the nature of the imperialistic CAC… why did Russia invade Georgia? Why did Russia invade Moldova? Why did Russia invade Ukraine? Why did Russia destroy Chechnya…. Notice a trend
 

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This all could have been avoided if Obama had given them the weapons when they asked for it.
Russia would have never gone over the border if they were strapped up right.
Would have been a lot cheaper too. But maybe that's just what this country wants. got to keep the military in business.
 

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So how do ya'll think this ends realistically? Not when, but how?
The money & aid stops flowing…

Look at the amount of equipment Ukraine had before the start of the SMO

Look at the equipment they received when everyone felt it’s was ok to support Ukraine to now…

Them dudes were fully equipped when it started and been since resupplied

The only thing they really didn’t received are F16 fighters jets, long range ATMS missiles, Abrams tanks and a confirmation of NATO troops on the ground oh and Nuke
 

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Depends on what side of the coin you fall you’re either on the Threatened by NATO Tin Foil side or you’re woke and you understand the nature of the imperialistic CAC… why did Russia invade Georgia? Why did Russia invade Moldova? Why did Russia invade Ukraine? Why did Russia destroy Chechnya…. Notice a trend
If you could answer the question, that would be nice
 

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Our most important allies: France, UK, basically, Western Europe. If Ukraine (the largest country in Europe, as well as the biggest producer of food (grain)) comes under Putin's thumb, those countries can either fall in line with Russia, or face significant backlash in the form of food and fuel shortages. THIS will, without question, lead eventually to armed conflict-it always does. Hitler had to be stopped-so does Putin. If you question this, our discussion will last hours, perhaps days.

Putin is not burning Jews, but he is the dictator of perhaps the most racist nation on the planet. If they gain significant power, what do you thing that means for you and me? Forget traveling freely, as the racist policies of Russia will bleed into historically African AMERICAN friendly places such as France and Belgium. It means you and I have fewer places to find refuge from THIS particular hell, should we choose to do so.

Without aid from the U.S., the rest of Europe will easily fall into Putin's sphere of influence. It means you have made the second most powerful totalitarian state (China holds that title currently) VASTLY more powerful. Once they find and establish comradery with China, forget about event thinking about a free world. The pressure that ensue will leave the U.S. in the position where even rational citizens will crave a STRONG MAN, willing to use the constitution as toilet paper in order to secure a few half decent jobs for the white and privileged among us.

Needless to say, neither your nor I are likely to be considered on of the favored few.

In other words, you CAN'T prove it.

Covering your lack of education with insults is hoe shit.

Just sayin'.

Hoe.
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