Verzuz NYC Get Ready The Lox Vs Dipset August 3rd

LongLocs85

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It was all about strategy and the LOX came ready. Dipset did a Lennox Lewis vs Rahman 1. Fucking around before the fight taking shit lightly and....the result
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:roflmao: But we know what happened on that rematch...
Feel sorry for every person that has ever seen dip set in concert
Their shows were dope... Last show I saw of them was Rolling Loud Miami 2018... Had the night crowd rocking... That cohesive energy was missing last night from them
 

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Ok...See my uptown brothers are a little shell shocked this morning

Understandable

But the OGs saw this but just didn't think it was gonna happen

This WAS Dip Set pretty much their whole career

Fractured.

When Dip is focused? Yes they can be considered the hip hop Beatles

That is why initially I immediately thought they had this hands down easy...

Remember @dik cashmere ?

But the issue is this whole show was kinda indicative of they whole career a microcosm

Cocky brash bold (which isn't necessarily bad)

Cam late wants to make an entrance

Freaky trying to make everyone laugh and stay together

Julez thinks HE the reason people came out

So Jimmy has to hold it down

Sound familiar

Jimmy thinks his records are ALL HITS

ALL OF THEM

Even the ones we ain't heard.

Santana thought he didn't even have to rap cause the audience would say all his lines

The reason they lost is all about preparation

They got that Harlem attitude

"We gonna win cause we SHOWED UP"

The Lox forever got that hunger

That underdog stepchild we gonna out WORK YOU mentality

WE GON MAKE IT.

That's Yonkers sh*t

Diplomats had all the weapons necessary

But they ain't know HOW TO PROPERLY use them

No game plan either.

So they couldn't adjust

And worse... they ain't RESPECT THE AUDIENCE.

And they ain't really respect their own legacy and records enough to present them in the best light.

I'm not from NYC, but damn if you ain't just paint a picture. Appreciate it.
 

Da Backshot Champ

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Now that I think about it, why the fuck are The Lox taking this dead weight on tour with them? Those Dipset niggas aint going to nothing but sip off the ticket sales profit. Between Juelz bandana snatching, Jim falling off stage, or Cam's ill fated haircut, these niggas are like the new Three Stooges.
 

ANGRY MAN

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This has been the talk of the day and not one person has said Dipset won anywhere. Shit was as bad as one of them late 80s Tyson knockouts.

Got one person said Dipset won.It’s versus which consist of song vs song.Lox didn’t have songs they just had versus and features on record. Dipset is getting more money looking at the jewelry. Where the lox are local claiming NY. But Dipset is all over doing Master P bout it and rapping over Easy E beats. Jadakiss turned it into a concert. While Dipset had A better songs.

Don’t shoot the messenger, but I never like Dipset Cam cool they lost it with me when they got jump at the Rucker. Jim Jones hop the fence, thought he was always corny for that. Then Cam got shot in DC for the Paid In Full reference.

Jadakiss slaughter everything moving last night!
 

OutlawR.O.C.

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My guy Cam got booed in the Garden. I know it was a bad night for everyone in Harlem and our guy @shaddyvillethug I hope you guys are ok.

on another note fellas goto page one and read comments from everyone who said The Lox was gonna get cooked. Imma need some cats to fall on their swords.

I'm damn sure one of them.

I'm more a fan of the Lox and Jada but I couldn't see them besting Dipset as a collective in a Verzuz.

I was wrong like a muthafucka.
 

cnc

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“We Goin Make It” has always been my shit and Kiss MURDERED it 20 years ago and last night. Side story though; who else remembers that Ras Kass said that beat was supposed to be his, and he paid Alchemist for it only to have it end up with Jada?
Ras dropped “Home Sweet Home” off that same beat.

 
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“We Goin Make It” has always been my shit and Kiss MURDERED 20 years ago and last night. Side story though; who else remembers that Ras Kass said that beat was supposed to be his, and he paid Alchemist for it only to have it end up with Jada?
Ras dropped “Home Sweet Home” off that same beat.


He killed this
 

furlough

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“We Goin Make It” has always been my shit and Kiss MURDERED it 20 years ago and last night. Side story though; who else remembers that Ras Kass said that beat was supposed to be his, and he paid Alchemist for it only to have it end up with Jada?
Ras dropped “Home Sweet Home” off that same beat.


damn alc
never knew this
 

cnc

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damn alc
never knew this
Yep. I remember reading about this way back in the underground world mags.



Alchemist Responds To Claims Of Double Dealing
Rapper Ras Kass says the producer sold the same beat twice.
archive-Soren-Baker 05/16/2001
Hip-hop producer the Alchemist, who has been accused by rapper Ras Kass of selling the same beat twice, says Ras' claims are off-base.

Ras Kass claims he paid the Alchemist for the music used on his "Home Sweet Home" song, which was scheduled to appear on Ras' forthcoming Van Gough and has also been featured on mix tapes from New York's DJ Kay Slay and Cornerstone Promotion. When the same instrumentation appeared on Jadakiss' "We Gon' Make It," Ras Kass attempted to block the release through his lawyers (see "Ras Kass Blasts Beat Alchemy").

The Alchemist and Ras had verbally agreed in November 1999 that the producer would supply three beats for Ras' album, according to the Alchemist. Last summer, the Alchemist — whose credits include Mobb Deep, Bumpy Knuckles, Dilated Peoples and Mr. Voodoo — said he found out through an associate that Ras' album, originally scheduled for an early 2000 release, had been put on hold.

The process usually works as follows: a producer is paid half of the money up front and the other half either when the work is complete or when the album is released. But after more than six months, the Alchemist said he was uncertain of the status of his work with Ras.

"Priority (Ras' label) put me on hold and left me hanging," he said. "After I got the first half, they left me on hold. ... For whatever reason, his A&Rs and whoever was related to his project was ignoring me."

Then, the two met up in August at the Source Awards in Pasadena, California.
"He was like, 'Yo, I'm not f---ing with Priority anymore. I might be f---ing with Snoop, but yo, that 'Home Sweet Home' sh-- is hot. I'm running with that one for sure,'" the Alchemist said. "I'm like, 'You don't know how many artists I've shown that beat to.' He hadn't ever called me. I'd been showing it to everybody. 'Kiss was only one that was feeling it like that."

After Jadakiss expressed interest in using the beat, the Alchemist said he attempted to contact Ras' representatives at Priority to let them know he was using it elsewhere.

"I tried to call everybody to let them know, but nobody wanted to return my calls," he said. "So finally when I reach him to tell him that I'm using it, I start hearing it on mix tapes. I called Priority and was like, 'Hold up, we don't have any paperwork for this.' This is a situation where the record company is f---ing it up. Now Ras Kass is heated at me. But I called Ras Kass and said, 'Forget this beat. I'll give you some new sh--. That was '99. The label played me.' They really jerked both of us.
"Now I see in the press that Ras is saying, 'I bought this beat off of Alchemist eight months ago, and he just sat around with the paperwork.' What he's talking about is eight months ago when he found out that it was coming out with somebody else, he had his lawyers send over paperwork for the production of one beat, 'Home Sweat Home,' $7,500 full payment. They just took it upon themselves to make that first half of the three beats [be] the full payment for one beat, which we never discussed. Of course, I just put that paperwork to the side. I laughed at it. I had already seen him in L.A. and told him."
Calls to Priority and Ras Kass were not returned by press time, but last month Ras said, "Dude cashed the check, and now he's playing stupid."

The Alchemist said he has the documentation to support his claims and blames Ras' legal team for creating the problem.

"Having found out that they loved this beat so much, they had two years to shoot paperwork over to my lawyer," the Alchemist said. "There were three beats in the deal. Nobody even wants to talk about those other two beats. What if I go sell one of those beats? He's going come out again and say that's his beat?
"I tried to call Ras and extend my hand to him," he continued. "I said, 'If you want that money back, I'll give it right back because I don't want it to feel like I got over on you or your record label. I'm not trying to get over on anybody. I got beats. I wish we could just continue to work. ... It's a shame that it had to happen like this."

The Alchemist isn't letting this situation affect his work. He recently produced "Connected," a song from Tha Eastsidaz's forthcoming album that features Mobb Deep and the Lady of Rage. Plus, the New Yorker's work will appear on new albums from Ghostface Killah, Fat Joe, Royce Da 5'9" and Mobb Deep.

The Alchemist will also be releasing Chemistry Files on his own Alchemy Records in mid-July, with a lead single featuring Bid Daddy Kane. Other cuts will feature Mobb Deep, Infamous Mob and Dilated Peoples
 

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Got one person said Dipset won.It’s versus which consist of song vs song.Lox didn’t have songs they just had versus and features on record. Dipset is getting more money looking at the jewelry. Where the lox are local claiming NY. But Dipset is all over doing Master P bout it and rapping over Easy E beats. Jadakiss turned it into a concert. While Dipset had A better songs.

Don’t shoot the messenger, but I never like Dipset Cam cool they lost it with me when they got jump at the Rucker. Jim Jones hop the fence, thought he was always corny for that. Then Cam got shot in DC for the Paid In Full reference.

Jadakiss slaughter everything moving last night!

Whoever told you they won, watch your valuables around them niggas. They got a bad drug habit.
 

dik cashmere

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“We Goin Make It” has always been my shit and Kiss MURDERED it 20 years ago and last night. Side story though; who else remembers that Ras Kass said that beat was supposed to be his, and he paid Alchemist for it only to have it end up with Jada?
Ras dropped “Home Sweet Home” off that same beat.


Alchemist did that to a couple of artists at that time. If it wasn’t for mobb deep he would’ve been done
 

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Jada is underrated. He is a better rapper than Snoop and Tupac. Skill for skill.
Tupac and Snoop are always mentioned before Jada.
Stop it.

I've never heard Jadakiss being underrated . I've always seen him being highly rated. So to claim he's the most underrated is a stretch.
 

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I've never heard Jadakiss being underrated . I've always seen him being highly rated. So to claim he's the most underrated is a stretch.

I agree.

He doesn’t get spoken about with the greats because he doesn’t have a classic album or many solo albums that people listen to or reference.

But everyone knows that he’s nice and has classic songs.
 

REDLINE

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“We Goin Make It” has always been my shit and Kiss MURDERED it 20 years ago and last night. Side story though; who else remembers that Ras Kass said that beat was supposed to be his, and he paid Alchemist for it only to have it end up with Jada?
Ras dropped “Home Sweet Home” off that same beat.



I definitely never knew that, thanks for the info!
 
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That man seriously asked the crowd "Ayo NY do y'all know these songs?"
Jada chose violence & savagery the entire night
if it was a clean game with no fouls called, dipset would have won. talk shit, get dirty, bodies thrown in the paint, no way Dipset was going to win. That's the problem with dipset, they think they are hard but dont have the lyrical prowess to back it up. should have concentrated on hits and better stage presence. If it's a dog fight, the street dudes merked them
 

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Jada is underrated. He is a better rapper than Snoop and Tupac. Skill for skill.
Tupac and Snoop are always mentioned before Jada.
Stop it.
Bruh those list are usually fan/artist list and they aren't really about lyricism.
They are about popularity. People be having mumble as rappers on their top 5.
Yet I said to say Jada is the most underrated is a stretch. Jada name always comes up when people talk about lyricist.
 
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