Thanks for the resources.
Who do you respect in government? Anyone? EVER?
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Thanks for the resources.
Maxine Waters
President: John F. Kennedy gets the vote. Check it, this guy told it like it was about the "Secret Societies" that try to boss people around. Listen to this speech, someone assist with this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA
Congressman/other government official goes to Harold Washington. First Black Mayor of Chicago... Quiet as it's kept, he was assassinated too. I think it was either my grandmother or uncle (R.I.P.) that said he was poisoned and made it look like he died of natural causes
**EDIT**
here's the un-edited version of that J.F.K. speech, split into parts (for time restrictions)
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C56QlmgMSFU
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWPXVBbMba8
Damn, was Kennedy the last REAL President of this piece or what?
c/s
u'd think if u learned enough about politics u realize that u cant be a successful politician without being deceitful and that lies and corruption are how small time city council members become senators or the president. Or that politicians dont work for the people, they work for Rich people.
Alexander Hamilton I think did a lot of good things; getting war debts paid off and going against Thomas Jefferson's vision of how the country should have been.
...and for the gangsta fans, dude died in a duel over in Weehawken,NJ I think
...and for the gangsta fans, dude died in a duel over in Weehawken,NJ I think
Excluding Presidents and trying to stay close to my life time, I would pick these people plus a few more
Joe Biden
Robert Kennedy
Sherrod Brown
Tip O'Neil from back in the day
Dennis Kucinich
I used to like John McCain but I've found out he was a complete fraud. He's against whoever just beat him in the last election: when he lost to Bush, he was a moderate, he lost to Obama, he's a hard right conservative.
NONE of them BASTIDS, And that goes with saying Obama is in OFFICE!!!
What I didn't understand back then is that they were never really touched on at all...
So there's never been a person elected to the Senate or the House without having been bought and corrupted in advance?
sure
but if those people stay uncorrupted they usually have short careers or uneventful ones
Why did you exclude presidents? Were there any you would cite?
What do you think of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, the largest crime bill in history authored by Biden? It had the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which I favor, but it expanded the death penalty and eliminated the Higher Education Act of 1965 for inmate education, which I see as just vicious. Spending almost $10 billion to build new jails is a gallon of salt added to the chest wounds.
So for instance, Dave's list...
Do they all fall into the categories of either having a) had a short and uneventful careers or b) been bought off, compromised, and/or despicable?
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never trust government
The unwavering support that blacks have for Obama is horrifying
And this support is only due to the racists becoming bolder since his election to office.
There was a time when blacks heavily scrutinized black officials.
Now, if you say something about Obama, they are ready to fight you.
never trust government
The unwavering support that blacks have for Obama is horrifying
And this support is only due to the racists becoming bolder since his election to office.
There was a time when blacks heavily scrutinized black officials.
Now, if you say something about Obama, they are ready to fight you.
I think blind cynicism is as short-sighted and destructive as blind faith.good bump
never trust government
The unwavering support that blacks have for Obama is horrifying
And this support is only due to the racists becoming bolder since his election to office.
There was a time when blacks heavily scrutinized black officials.
Now, if you say something about Obama, they are ready to fight you.
i dont know enough about Sherrod Brown and Tip O'Neil to make any final conclusions and i'm not all that sold on joe biden
as for kennedy we all know how that went down and i like what some of what Kucinich is about but i'd like to see how far he can go considering most of the politicians in office now like the status quo
but i think we shoulda kept this list to current politicians
the two i could think of off the top are
anthony weiner and alan grayson
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never trust government
The unwavering support that blacks have for Obama is horrifying
And this support is only due to the racists becoming bolder since his election to office.
There was a time when blacks heavily scrutinized black officials.
Now, if you say something about Obama, they are ready to fight you.
c/s
i agree but it didnt sound like there was anything blind about what dude said
Avoiding the easy answers
Alan Grayson.
Alan Grayson.
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never trust government
The unwavering support that blacks have for Obama is horrifying
And this support is only due to the racists becoming bolder since his election to office.
There was a time when blacks heavily scrutinized black officials.
That's a lie, that never happened.
There are just as many examples of Black politicians being outright scoundrels and still being elected/re-elected and/or still have strong Black support as there are of White ones.
Criticizing Biden for the Crime Bill 10 years ago is pretty impressive.
(I found that because of this conversation.)
Representative Barbara Lee
Somehow even more true ten years later. Could really use some of that scrutiny today.
There was a time when blacks heavily scrutinized black officials.
Now, if you say something about Obama, they are ready to fight you.
Julian Castro, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Harold Washington, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee, Rashida Harbi Tlaib, and Cori Bush. There's probably more.