Why are Latinos and others groups trying to say they created Hip-Hop when it was really Black people?

November 17

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
You mention KMD and Treacherous 3 another cat down with them was DJ Easy Lee. I know DJ Easy Lee and in conversation he considers himself 1st Generation Hip Hop. He was telling me about an incident when he recently ran into MC Shan and referred to him as second Generation Hip Hop. I was born in 72 so I wasn’t outside till the Run DMC Rockbox era which DJ Easy Lee would consider to be second generation. I was still too young to go to clubs but I did go to park parties. I never attended the Budweiser Superfest and stuff like that.

You and @DJCandle give the best narrative as to who was outside and what you saw in the streets growing up. Most cats posting in here just talking just to talk. Fat Joe and DJ EFN over embellished their conversation and contributions because they are still in the culture. I tell DJ Easy Lee all the time to run a YouTube channel to keep his history and legacy alive. He has moved on from Hip Hop. He is a Sound and video engineer for most of these 80’s artists. The on us is on them to tell the stories, like GMF said he could only give you 1/3 of the story. Him, Bam and Herc could give the whole story.
Thank you, and tell Mr. Smith, I said "Hello." We know each other quite well, and tell him that I never thought I would miss those days of the music in the lunch room at Norman Thomas and Mr.Johnson's brown suit (Mr. Johnson was a very nice man, but he always seem to be wearing a brown suit, maybe he had a deal with A.J. Lester?)
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Kane didn't keep it a hundred because he didn't flatly put it out their that PRs were not there from the beginning as Caz first said (even though he's back pedaling now).
Kane didn't keep it a hundred because he didn't flatly put it out their that PRs were not there from the beginning as Caz first said (even though he's back pedaling now).
From what I heard when they specifically asked if they created or contribute. He said there were mcs b boys and djs before them and thank you for contributing. And adios.
 

November 17

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
The the whole problem. They're talking about the very late 70's going into the 80's. As has been said by those that were the actual creators of Hip Hop. Hip Hop dis not start in 1979.


Also what those PRs on the panel fail to mention is that there have been plenty if people making the claim that Carribeans (JJamaicans, Barbadian, etc...) and Puerto Ricans created Hip Hop.

In 1952, Ralph Ellison published a novel entitled "Invisible Man." The novel dealt with the issue of "social invisibility," and how the main character (a black man) had to navigate throughout this world often being unseen or unnoticed (that is until something bad happens).
Michael Jackson was a phenomenal dancer and a truly gifted entertainer. On May 16, 1983 NBC aired the broadcast production of Motown 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever, during a performance of "Billie Jean" Michael Jackson did a dance move that would come to be known as the "Moonwalk."
Nevertheless, this isn't really about Michael Jackson, but more so about him popularizing a dance move that was previously known as the "backslide."
The origins of the dance (or moves that resemble it) go back to a man named Bill Bailey in the 1940's (yes, I read about Cab Calloway in the 1930's).
Now, the first time I remember seeing someone do that move was around June 1980 on the Mike Douglas show, and it took place during a performance of "Right in the Socket, " by Shalamar.
During a musical interlude of the song Jeffrey Daniel appeared to glide across the floor and contort his body in ways I had never seen before. Truly a great display!
Which leads me to ask, does Jeffrey Daniel get acknowledged for creating the modern version of the "Moonwalk?" Some may be aware, but he receives none of the accolades bestowed upon Michael Jackson.
Unless, you've seen Shalamar or him perform he has become virtually an "Invisible Man."
Michael Jackson unfortunately is no longer with us, and I am not sure if Jeffrey Daniel still performs, but just imagine for a moment if Justin Timberlake, Justin Bieber or Harry Styles could dance like them?
20 years from now people might be asking Jeffrey who? Michael who? Not familiar with them, but boy that Harry Styles can dance.
 
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RoadRage

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I just got off the phone talking with my cousin who not only was a part of the early HIP-HOP movement in the Bronx she also was very close to members of Flash and the Furious Five, Cold Crush, and others and we spoke for almost two hours on the subject, and even though she is super pro-black, she admitted that Spanish people were involved in the beginning. But like I said earlier they jumped ship in the early '80s moving on to freestyle electronic music. She also wants me to help her write a book on the situation allowing me access to the early recording studios also early rappers and DJs. What surprised me was all the gay shit that allegedly happened behind the scenes, something kats from Brooklyn always suspected from day one. She claims to have receipts from one of the group members so if the book were to drop it may get spicy!
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
If your
I just got off the phone talking with my cousin who not only was a part of the early HIP-HOP movement in the Bronx she also was very close to members of Flash and the Furious Five, Cold Crush, and others and we spoke for almost two hours on the subject, and even though she is super pro-black, she admitted that Spanish people were involved in the beginning. But like I said earlier they jumped ship in the early '80s moving on to freestyle electronic music. She also wants me to help her write a book on the situation allowing me access to the early recording studios also early rappers and DJs. What surprised me was all the gay shit that allegedly happened behind the scenes, something kats from Brooklyn always suspected from day one. She claims to have receipts from one of the group members so if the book were to drop it may get spicy!
If your not from the Bronx to have witnessed any of this please stop. Last thing we need is another uniformed non educated perp with 3 rd hand information acting like they know what they’re talking about.
 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
BGOL Investor
If your

If your not from the Bronx to have witnessed any of this please stop. Last thing we need is another uniformed non educated perp with 3 rd hand information acting like they know what they’re talking about.
Dude I lived in the Bronx while a lot of that stuff was going down, and have spoken with many of the old rappers, but my Cuz was actually active and involved with them and before I start talking I get my facts right, so fuck out of here with that non-educated perp bullshit!
 

November 17

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
o_OWait did he say this recently or before he researched it and found out it was a lie
From what I can see Tariq Nasheed's tweet is dated November 1, 2018. Based on Tariq Nasheed current videos I would assume after further research he has changed his position. I watched the video that you posted waiting to see if the content creator offered evidence opposing Tariq Nasheed's current stance. Unfortunately, it was just a personal attack.
 
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footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I just got off the phone talking with my cousin who not only was a part of the early HIP-HOP movement in the Bronx she also was very close to members of Flash and the Furious Five, Cold Crush, and others and we spoke for almost two hours on the subject, and even though she is super pro-black, she admitted that Spanish people were involved in the beginning. But like I said earlier they jumped ship in the early '80s moving on to freestyle electronic music. She also wants me to help her write a book on the situation allowing me access to the early recording studios also early rappers and DJs. What surprised me was all the gay shit that allegedly happened behind the scenes, something kats from Brooklyn always suspected from day one. She claims to have receipts from one of the group members so if the book were to drop it may get spicy!
That’s cool. But who said “Puerto Ricans” were not participating at the beginning. We’re saying none of the elements were created by them.
 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
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That’s cool. But who said “Puerto Ricans” were not participating at the beginning. We’re saying none of the elements were created by them.
Not going to run around in circles with you (I am noticing that you are repeating the same questions over and over after I, not only answered them already but went into great detail explaining with videos and actual evidence) but the thing is without solid evidence (you know a mix tape or proof that there were actual MC's before 1977) if you cannot supply the proper evidence then I am going with the notion that people like Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip and Ruby Dee who were with Cold Crush a group before the Sugar Hill Gang were og Spanish rappers and DJs before day one.
Where you get mixed up is the fact that yes there were disco crews at the block parties and roller skating rinks where the DJ used to play music and the hype man (who eventually turned into real MC's were there before 77 but like I said they were hype men similar to hype men in strip clubs, amusement parks (NYC remembers the Himalaya ride) and roller rinks, but without real MCs not hype men on the mic, its not real HIP HOP!
So for the last time, no more silly games, where is your evidence of actual MCs before 1977?

More evidence that collaborates my statements.

 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
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Once again. Kool hercs party was in 1973. Coke la rock was the first mc. Which he was inspired by the last poets and Gil Scott heron.
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cool story bro, I see the DJ being there but where are the MCs? Remember you dont have hip hop without the DJ's and a MC!
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Not going to run around in circles with you (I am noticing that you are repeating the same questions over and over after I, not only answered them already but went into great detail explaining with videos and actual evidence) but the thing is without solid evidence (you know a mix tape or proof that there were actual MC's before 1977) if you cannot supply the proper evidence then I am going with the notion that people like Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip and Ruby Dee who were with Cold Crush a group before the Sugar Hill Gang were og Spanish rappers and DJs before day one.
Where you get mixed up is the fact that yes there were disco crews at the block parties and roller skating rinks where the DJ used to play music and the hype man (who eventually turned into real MC's were there before 77 but like I said they were hype men similar to hype men in strip clubs, amusement parks (NYC remembers the Himalaya ride) and roller rinks, but without real MCs not hype men on the mic, its not real HIP HOP!
So for the last time, no more silly games, where is your evidence of actual MCs before 1977?

More evidence that collaborates my statements.


Once again. Kool hercs first”hip hop” party was in 1973. Where are you getting your years from
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Not going to run around in circles with you (I am noticing that you are repeating the same questions over and over after I, not only answered them already but went into great detail explaining with videos and actual evidence) but the thing is without solid evidence (you know a mix tape or proof that there were actual MC's before 1977) if you cannot supply the proper evidence then I am going with the notion that people like Charlie Chase, Whipper Whip and Ruby Dee who were with Cold Crush a group before the Sugar Hill Gang were og Spanish rappers and DJs before day one.
Where you get mixed up is the fact that yes there were disco crews at the block parties and roller skating rinks where the DJ used to play music and the hype man (who eventually turned into real MC's were there before 77 but like I said they were hype men similar to hype men in strip clubs, amusement parks (NYC remembers the Himalaya ride) and roller rinks, but without real MCs not hype men on the mic, its not real HIP HOP!
So for the last time, no more silly games, where is your evidence of actual MCs before 1977?

More evidence that collaborates my statements.


 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
BGOL Investor
Once again. Kool hercs first”hip hop” party was in 1973. Where are you getting your years from

That was a block party that was more into disco, remember dicso is basically hip hop before hip hop. But today, folks are trying to gain clout by mixing up the two genres so they can claim to be the originators. But again show me the MCs at those parties.
 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
BGOL Investor
Matter of fact go back and watch the Get Down on Netflix where they break down how disco morphed into hip hop and how closely related the two are.
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Matter of fact go back and watch the Get Down on Netflix where they break down how disco morphed into hip hop and how closely related the two are.
Your all mixed up. First off. The get down is inaccurate. Herc said himself they didn’t include him on telling that story. Flash told that story and based it on himself. Now you would have to show me where it says that was a disco party. I have 2 sources one of coke la rock and one of caz even saying those were hip hop parties. The disco parties were dj Hollywood which the generation after la rock got there rapping style from.
unless your saying herc party wasn’t the beginning and flash was
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
That was a block party that was more into disco, remember dicso is basically hip hop before hip hop. But today, folks are trying to gain clout by mixing up the two genres so they can claim to be the originators. But again show me the MCs at those parties.
Man your all mixed up. The block party’s came later. It started in the wreck center then they took it outside. Caz even said he was too young to go into the party. But when they came outside with it is when he saw it. And caz was the first on to get Puerto Ricans in his group
 

footloose

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
That was a block party that was more into disco, remember dicso is basically hip hop before hip hop. But today, folks are trying to gain clout by mixing up the two genres so they can claim to be the originators. But again show me the MCs at those parties.
I been backhanding you with sources. Where’s your counter sources man. Not some damn cartoon Netflix series. But I’m glad your refuting this so I can keep dropping them for everyone to see
 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
BGOL Investor
I been backhanding you with sources. Where’s your counter sources man. Not some damn cartoon Netflix series. But I’m glad your refuting this so I can keep dropping them for everyone to see
All this is fluff if you can't show the following.
1- Name on MC before 77,.
2- Produce one mix tape of someone rapping as a mc before 77, sorry Coke out stories don't count, I need real evidence.
What happened the Purto Ricans destroyed all the evidence?
 

RoadRage

the voice of reason
BGOL Investor
Man your all mixed up. The block party’s came later. It started in the wreck center then they took it outside. Caz even said he was too young to go into the party. But when they came outside with it is when he saw it. And caz was the first on to get Puerto Ricans in his group
OK now I know you are either dumb as a wet bag of rocks or a troll, because hip hop did not come before block parties!!
Ask Disco KING Mario!


LET ME GUESS ACCORDING TO YOU DISCO WAS INVENTED IN THE 20S BY ALBINOS!
 
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