So your saying that Mario’s block party’s were hip hop block party’s with a dj and Mc that predates herc and coke la roc wreck center party in 1973?
Why are Latinos and others groups trying to say they created Hip-Hop when it was really Black people?
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So your saying that Mario’s block party’s were hip hop block party’s with a dj and Mc that predates herc and coke la roc wreck center party in 1973?
No it was considered disco back then, the term hip hop did not drop until the rap MCs (not the master of the ceremony mc that is used in events) got involved, and according to all the records I've seen started at 77 the earliest!
Now if you can show me an MC before 77 then I would have no problems conceding to your argument on the official start of hip hop.
Ok so your saying the first to rap on a record. Because the culture not the term hip hop started when you have the Mc the b boy the dj and graffiti artist at there own event.
now the term hip hop doesn’t have a verified definitive time period.
dj clark kent claims he heard coke la rock say it first at a party.
caz claims someone else said it at a party before they were going to the army.
sugar Hill said it but all their rhymes were from stuff they heard coke la rock and grandmaster caz say at party’s such as “hotel motel holiday in” coke la rock and grandmaster caz whole rhyme from a party. I’m the cass the a nova.
So if your going by that logic herc and coke la rock did not start hip hop your saying because they were done by 1977
No duck records, back then they had mix tapes that was sold, it even posted a Cold Crush mix tapes from 79 or 80.
My argument is if there were MAcs before 77 then there would be at least one mix tapes around to prove it. Remember thousands of copies were made and someone have to have one.
To me Coke and then are claiming underground disco which was similar to whip hop as hip hop, but not one called it hip hop back then, plus there were no official MCs.
Ok so your saying kool herc party’s were not hip hop party’s. And your rejecting that consensus. And starting from the tape era.
so who do you consider the beginning specially ?
Kool Herc was around the time of Mario and they played the same type of music.
Im speaking on herc. Since the written history has been based on that so far. Like I said are you saying your not considering herc the beginning of hip hop. And he was playing disco or something?
And if so who is your starting point
Herc wasn't really into hip hop like that, he was a DJ not a rapper and as far as I know, never had rappers or any mix tapes. But Mario, Bam and Flash did get the ball rolling, but only Bam and Flash were able to transition into HIP HOP with the rap game.
I’m doin a lil research on the disco mix tapes. Woww dj hollywood fathered a lot of the late 70s rapping styles. He was just rapping on disco and soul beats mostly and djing. It’s really looking like the djing/rapping is direct descendant of Hollywood from what I’m seeing. But however story’s did align with melle Mel caz and others. So I’m not all with you on that. But I must say even hercs dj style looks suspect
Could've swore I said all of this already....
Me too, gonna link up with my oldest cuz and talk with him, a former black assassin banger, he doesn't like to talk too much about his gangbanging days, but he can fill in some blanks from 70-77, and then I will try to link up with Mr. Ness from the furious five for more info,
Nice but without an MC and a DJ it's not HIP-HOP, wanna start the argument that this was the start of rap, this is more plausible, but yo a real rapper makes more than one song that rhymes.
I wouldn’t totally dismiss that being hip hop. All the dj was in as another was another instrument. This might of been something we been had and lost
Sure it contributed to HIP HOP but if you want to get technical so did poetry and nobody is calling Shakspere a rapper.
I’m not talking about hip hop as we know it. I’m talking about what was they doing back then with the break dancing and rapping. Shit might just be recycled.
I agree, there are many contributions to hip hop remember it didn't form in a void nor was it invented by one guy, this is why I only focus on HIP HOP defining it as the marriage between then MC and the DJ all that other stuff are just bricks used to build the house, not the house itself.
The thing is Hip Hop origins start with the fashion, the dance, and the young folks attitude.
If you listen to Herc he said he started to get more hip and Americanized (Black culture specifically those in the Bronx).
He also said he played records in a certain way from the dancer's perspective. So he didn't create anything. He latched onto the things that were already there.
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This song came out in 1979, where were you listening to it at in a club? In addition, this is not disco music, this is "Go-Go" music that was very popular in the DMV area.
(DMV= Washington D.C., Maryland, Virginia)
I would really love to sit down with this brother and discuss music. His library and knowledge appears to be very extensive.
The Wailers' first album
The Wailing Wailers
The Wailing Wailers is the 1965 eponymous debut album by the Wailers, later known as Bob Marley and the Wailers. Released on the Studio One label, the album is a compilation of various recordings made between 1964 and 1965 by Neville "Bunny" Livingston, Robert Nesta Marley and Peter McIntosh.Wikipedia
The Wailers' first album
The Wailing Wailers
The Wailing Wailers is the 1965 eponymous debut album by the Wailers, later known as Bob Marley and the Wailers. Released on the Studio One label, the album is a compilation of various recordings made between 1964 and 1965 by Neville "Bunny" Livingston, Robert Nesta Marley and Peter McIntosh.Wikipedia
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Pete Rock is one of my favorite producers/DJ’s, lately he has become one of the biggest haters in Hip Hop. I have to be fair and honest to both sides of this thread. Here he is claiming Jamaicans created Human Beat Boxing in the 70’s, that video was shot in the mid 80’s he is getting roasted in the comments by cats who have the VHS tape…
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Pete Rock is one of my favorite producers/DJ’s, lately he has become one of the biggest haters in Hip Hop. I have to be fair and honest to both sides of this thread. Here he is claiming Jamaicans created Human Beat Boxing in the 70’s, that video was shot in the mid 80’s he is getting roasted in the comments by cats who have the VHS tape…
You may or may not be interested, but this is a short film clip of the "Mills Brothers" performing the song "Caravan." (Caravan was written by Duke Ellington, Juan Tizol, Irving Mills in 1936)
There are 2 things that you might take note of in this short film, the first might be some of the dance moves. Nevertheless, the initial reason I wanted you to see this short film is because there are no instruments used in this performance. The Mills Brothers are imitating the sounds of the instruments.
I would really love to sit down with this brother and discuss music. His library and knowledge appears to be very extensive.
The Wailers' first album
The Wailing Wailers
The Wailing Wailers is the 1965 eponymous debut album by the Wailers, later known as Bob Marley and the Wailers. Released on the Studio One label, the album is a compilation of various recordings made between 1964 and 1965 by Neville "Bunny" Livingston, Robert Nesta Marley and Peter McIntosh.Wikipedia
@Bad Andy
I almost forgot, the young man in the middle is Bob Marley. This is the Wailers' debut album and you can see they had a different look from what we have come to know (I listened to some of the album and a few recordings appeared to be cover records).
Thank you! Anthony Holloway (DJ Hollywood) was born December 10, 1954 in Harlem, New York. I appreciate you posting these videos because most people pay homage to those that helped established the foundation of this musical genre.
I remember hearing of DJ Hollywood back in the early 1970's on WBLS, at this time my older brothers were going to various clubs throughout New York City.
In addition, I must say that it's refreshing to see that people may be finally acknowledging those that were in the business prior to 1979 (Fatback Band, King Tim III) and recognize those from 1970 - 1978, whose shoulders they stand on.
Yup. I remember my older brothers use to sing that umm tang song back in the 70s.
Somebody smoking some good shit. Give me some!
Fat Joe to Host BET Hip Hop Awards 2022
Joe – who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent – helped play an integral role in bridging the intersection of hip-hop and Latin music.
Today, Grammy-nominated recording artist, actor, entrepreneur, and media personality Fat Joe was named host of the trailblazing “BET Hip Hop Awards” 2022. Taped from Cobb Energy Center in Atlanta, GA, on Friday, September 30, the broadcast premiere will air Tuesday, October 4, at 9 PM ET/PT on BET. The annual celebration will bring together the hottest names in hip hop to pay homage to the year’s best in hip hop culture. The official “BET Hip Hop Awards” 2022 nominations, selected by a voting academy of esteemed music industry insiders, performers, and presenters are to be announced at a later date.
“Fat Joe is hip hop royalty. He has represented the artform and the Bronx, the birthplace of hip hop, throughout his outstanding musical career. He is a treasured friend of the network and we’ve loved seeing and supporting his evolution to becoming the superstar he is today,” said Connie Orlando, EVP, Specials, Music Programming & Music Strategy at BET. “We can’t wait to watch him take the stage with his vivacious energy, standing together with today’s hottest and beloved hip hop stars.”
“This will be the BIGGEST award show in history,” said Fat Joe. “It’s truly an honor to host and produce the BET Hip Hop Awards and I can’t thank Connie and the entire BET family enough for this opportunity. We’re going to celebrate music, culture and entertainment, honor the biggest and brightest stars in the world and make this an unforgettable night full of laughs and surprises. Always remember that yesterday’s host is not today’s host.”
www.bet.com
Joe – who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent – helped play an integral role in bridging the intersection of hip-hop and Latin music.
Today, Grammy-nominated recording artist, actor, entrepreneur, and media personality Fat Joe was named host of the trailblazing “BET Hip Hop Awards” 2022. Taped from Cobb Energy Center in Atlanta, GA, on Friday, September 30, the broadcast premiere will air Tuesday, October 4, at 9 PM ET/PT on BET. The annual celebration will bring together the hottest names in hip hop to pay homage to the year’s best in hip hop culture. The official “BET Hip Hop Awards” 2022 nominations, selected by a voting academy of esteemed music industry insiders, performers, and presenters are to be announced at a later date.
“Fat Joe is hip hop royalty. He has represented the artform and the Bronx, the birthplace of hip hop, throughout his outstanding musical career. He is a treasured friend of the network and we’ve loved seeing and supporting his evolution to becoming the superstar he is today,” said Connie Orlando, EVP, Specials, Music Programming & Music Strategy at BET. “We can’t wait to watch him take the stage with his vivacious energy, standing together with today’s hottest and beloved hip hop stars.”
“This will be the BIGGEST award show in history,” said Fat Joe. “It’s truly an honor to host and produce the BET Hip Hop Awards and I can’t thank Connie and the entire BET family enough for this opportunity. We’re going to celebrate music, culture and entertainment, honor the biggest and brightest stars in the world and make this an unforgettable night full of laughs and surprises. Always remember that yesterday’s host is not today’s host.”
Fat Joe to Host BET Hip Hop Awards 2022
Joe – who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent – helped play an integral role in bridging the intersection of hip-hop and Latin music.
www.bet.com
Fat Joe to Host BET Hip Hop Awards 2022
Joe – who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent – helped play an integral role in bridging the intersection of hip-hop and Latin music.
Today, Grammy-nominated recording artist, actor, entrepreneur, and media personality Fat Joe was named host of the trailblazing “BET Hip Hop Awards” 2022. Taped from Cobb Energy Center in Atlanta, GA, on Friday, September 30, the broadcast premiere will air Tuesday, October 4, at 9 PM ET/PT on BET. The annual celebration will bring together the hottest names in hip hop to pay homage to the year’s best in hip hop culture. The official “BET Hip Hop Awards” 2022 nominations, selected by a voting academy of esteemed music industry insiders, performers, and presenters are to be announced at a later date.
“Fat Joe is hip hop royalty. He has represented the artform and the Bronx, the birthplace of hip hop, throughout his outstanding musical career. He is a treasured friend of the network and we’ve loved seeing and supporting his evolution to becoming the superstar he is today,” said Connie Orlando, EVP, Specials, Music Programming & Music Strategy at BET. “We can’t wait to watch him take the stage with his vivacious energy, standing together with today’s hottest and beloved hip hop stars.”
“This will be the BIGGEST award show in history,” said Fat Joe. “It’s truly an honor to host and produce the BET Hip Hop Awards and I can’t thank Connie and the entire BET family enough for this opportunity. We’re going to celebrate music, culture and entertainment, honor the biggest and brightest stars in the world and make this an unforgettable night full of laughs and surprises. Always remember that yesterday’s host is not today’s host.”
Fat Joe to Host BET Hip Hop Awards 2022
Joe – who is of Puerto Rican and Cuban descent – helped play an integral role in bridging the intersection of hip-hop and Latin music.
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Blacks have created several genres of music in America, but don't control ownership of it. Nevertheless, I'm still confused as to why even when "tributes" are performed they select artists that have a very tenuous connection to the musical genre or artist.
DJ Kool Herc announces plans to build a hip hop museum in Jamaica
The museum is in early development stages.
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2020
DJ Kool Herc — hip hop’s founding father — and his sister Cindy Campbell plan to bring a hip hop museum to their home country of Jamaica. The idea was first announced during the Jamaica Music Conference held in Kingston earlier this month and Herc discussed it in more depth during a recent interview with Billboard.
“When I was looking around [Kingston throughout the weekend], I saw that Peter Tosh and Bob Marley had museums,” he told the outlet. “Well guess what? I created something, so therefore, I have a contribution myself and it would add to the Jamaican economy with tourism.”
Furthermore, Herc spoke on mainstream American artists taking inspiration from Jamaican music and culture, without properly crediting the country’s influence.
“It started with Eric Clapton when he covered Bob Marley’s ‘I Shot the Sheriff’ [in 1974],” he said. “We should use it to our benefit instead of just making noise about it. It’s nice when somebody else uses our music. Just give recognition and give back money where it comes from. [It’s always about] taking something from us, but at the same time they know we are powerful and to be respected. When they are picking off of you it says something about the music.
According to the outlet, Campbell hopes a hip hop museum would not only create another source of tourism revenue for the country, but highlight Jamaica’s importance over hip hop’s foundation and today’s hits.
“It will definitely open up a whole other world musically for Jamaica,” she said. “[The island] is a core tourism Mecca and [the museum] could be a place where people would want to go to learn about history. [They will] not only [have to go to the United States]—it will be right here in Jamaica. I think if the government got behind it, it would be profitable and an asset to the country.”
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