The X-Men are not super soldiers.
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In the movies they are, so are the Avengers, the Inhumans and most of the Marvel heroes..
no sir i beg to differ , in every x-men movie (except origins) the x-men start as x-kids or are teaching such to about their powers and helping them to understand the world around them
no x-man/woman/kid has ever been forced to fight in some army (soldier)
as for your vaunted marvel universe theory
starlord, groot, spiderman, vision, hulk, thor, ironman, antman(thief) quicksliver, scarlet witch
daredevil, jessica jones none of whom are soldiers
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guess its natural that the movies push her to the forefront since Hugh Jackman has said that he's done playing Wolverine
they are not a team of super soldiers.... but I'm not going to get into the characters with you- look First Class makes your arguments pointless, btw the uniforms below are not spandex..
with less laziness and better writing - the introduction and explanation of what these uniforms are / materials would have the general audience and children going crazy -[geek] Chris Clairmont and Jim Lee stole borrowed some ideas from DC and tied it into Marvel existing science of unstable molecules[/geek]:
Deadpool showed how lazy / full of shit Singer was for not working on adapting or modifying Ultimate, Astonishing, XForce or Brown n Tan versions of Wolverine I won't start on the rest
If they work for a national agency and are fighting against political advacaries then they are just that super solders... The school is is for the gifted and they are trained as solders fighting for the ideology of Xavier... Magnito has his army of solders based off his ideology neither are good or bad its just different ideas of what mutants should be.no sir i beg to differ , in every x-men movie (except origins) the x-men start as x-kids or are teaching such to about their powers and helping them to understand the world around them
no x-man/woman/kid has ever been forced to fight in some army (soldier)
as for your vaunted marvel universe theory
starlord, groot, spiderman, vision, hulk, thor, ironman, antman(thief) quicksliver, scarlet witch
daredevil, jessica jones none of whom are soldiers
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I think you need to rewatch X1 , 2 and 1st Class... Professor X makes it clear they are not soldiers
Avengers -some are vigilantes -some are still government agents
To me
If they are not solders then they are a gang or a cult, no way are they superheros or just students...
There is a rumor that the X-Men will team up with the MCU (Marvel/Disney) for a movie in 2020.If this movie doesn't do well that will increase the chances of that rumor coming true.
How would the X-Men fit in the Marvel movie time line???
again - you are misinterpreting simple narratives: closest thing you got right is Magneto is training a defense force and possible future insurgents .
XMen are in school to learn control and safety to themselves and others and the function as ambassadors for mutant kind...
many times that means they are targeted by humans or mutants, most times when they get pulled into something its to protect a member that fell into trouble in some way too big for one or stumbled into a grand evil scheme.
Most times its defending against attack / very rarely do they go on an offensive - even in the movies trouble seeks them out first
Solders do all the stuff you mentioned, including going to school, being ambassadors and defending against attacks..
Marvel could introduce them in 2 movies... first Magneto as a PROBLEM -
then introduce Wolverine on the flip side of Winter Soldier / Cap history and story as an operative with amnesia...
The original 5 + Storm ShadowCat n Colossus should be will be easter egged and mentioned as urban myths by Shield military and government... unknown factors- Fury will have more info but not much.
They would have to reboot the X-Men franchise to accommodate because you know they aren't going to reboot the MCU for them... This will be the major stickler...
don't be dense - what is an army's primary function?
Xmen's primary mission is not defense
no it won't -
Xmen movies suck , lazy shit writing no character dev - Marvel will build it from the ground up - unfortunately, that would mean the sidelining of a bunch of currently planned Marvel movies
Basically solders are trained fighters who their leader or organization have on standby to fight..
no army is ever on "stand-by"
there is always a mission - defense only is a militia.
It was the reason our founding fathers didn't allow a standing army under federal authority in the US...
It took a long while for that to change
Xmen are less Star Wars and more Star Trek where the battles are not against some big bad guy who wants to take over the world (ironic due to the content of this movie) but mostly its about a war of philosophies and the struggle to survive vs a world were people fear for their safety...
Its basically the same story line MAOS are taking with the Inhumans... What makes it so good is that other than Wolverine, everyone on the team is expendable so anything can happen to any of them with out it ruining the franchise...
You realize Sweeden has solders right?
IMO that is what makes it shit... none of the villains or heros are developed and are expendable - Wolverine is safe because of who plays him - like X 3 Storm was safe because of Berry- thats bullshit...
and they have a mission and NATO obligations that they fulfill
And the Xmen have the mission to protect the well being and rights of mutants...
that is not their mission- in the books Cyclops escalated it to that using the language Israel uses to protect all jews... in the end he and Wolverine parted ways because of it. =
In the movies and in the books their primary mission is to function as a school
secondary is a safe haven and research.
they never acted as a police or protective agency - but they will defend their own members students and faculty and protect the school
They are not police but they are trained fighters, if not why have a war room to train?
thats not a war room - its called the danger room
first part of the curriculum is to control their abilities, many of their talents are dangerous to themselves and others
after they have control then they have to learn discipline and control under stressful and dangerous conditions so that they would not endanger themselves or others under any circumstance - the by product of the training is learning to use their abilities defensivly and offensively if possible
Ok, I will leave you this to ponder, if they are indeed students then why the fuck would they need costumes let alone a mask???
Don't... just don't. Stop. People who know NOTHING about the XMen feel they have to pipe up. You clearly told him what they were. Clearly. He decided to ignore what you said.
because when the story started X didn't want Magneto to know the identities of students in hope of having normal lives when they graduated the school, and to protect families of the students, later when the government started paying attention Professor X worked harder on protecting their identities
Later in some cases the costumes had properties that helped with control and self protection
So only Logan has this problem? Yet he is the main one everyone knows who he is...
no
many of the Xmen have problems...
When Logan was introduced he was fugitive from Canada
Why is he the only one with a mask?
I think thats what storm XSE was. Creating a police force.
Man that's no excuse. It's a comic book film that will sell tickets based on the name first. Lawrence name and face brings in just extra. Sure there's a long list of actors who want the Wolverine role after Jackman. Tom Hardy or Joe Mangelo would be great in the role.