elaborate please?
Zelenskyy 'Ukraine war aid, ‘got only $75 of $177b, Trump say Ukraine needs to repay, “U.S. pausing all military aid to Ukraine” Zelensky folded???
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Yep I’m curious as to what Europe will do to counter this
Which I kinda think we seen their counter
Keep the war going
Officials in Ukraine and the Trump administration said they have reached a deal that would give the United States revenues from Ukraine’s minerals and other natural resources, after an intense pressure campaign by the American president.
Terms of the agreement
It is not clear if the two sides have reached final agreement on the terms of the deal.
A draft seen by The New York Times dated Feb. 25 described the creation of a U.S.-controlled fund that would receive revenue from Ukraine’s natural resources.
Missing from the draft was Mr. Trump’s initial demand that Ukraine contribute $500 billion to a fund owned by the United States and pay back twice the amount of any future American aid.
Under the draft agreement, Ukraine would contribute into the fund half of its revenues from the future monetization of natural resources, including critical minerals, oil and gas, as well as earnings from associated infrastructure, such as liquefied natural gas terminals and port infrastructure.
- The fund would not draw on revenue from existing mines, oil wells and other natural resources businesses.
- The United States would own the maximum financial interest in the fund allowed under American law, though not necessarily all. It is unclear how that would be interpreted.
- The fund would be designed to reinvest some revenues into Ukraine.
Security guarantee
The draft vaguely referenced security guarantees, but did not signal any specific U.S. commitment to safeguarding Ukraine’s security — a provision Kyiv has vigorously pressed to include as its war against Russia enters its fourth year.
A copy of the agreement obtained Wednesday by The New York Times included a sentence stating that the United States “supports Ukraine’s effort to obtain security guarantees needed to establish lasting peace.” Previous drafts did not have the phrase.
Approval process
President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine is expected to travel to Washington on Friday to sign the agreement with President Trump. The draft obtained by The Times showed Scott Bessent, the U.S. Treasury secretary, and Yulia Svyrydenko, Ukraine’s economy minister, as the initial signatories.
It was not clear whether the draft, dated Tuesday, was a final version.
Ukraine’s mineral resources
Ukraine controls more than 100 major deposits of critical minerals, according to a study by the Kyiv School of Economics, along with modest oil and natural gas reserves.
Ukraine also has deposits of 20 of the 50 minerals the U.S. Geological Survey lists as critical for America’s economic development and defense, including:
Titanium, used in construction, airplanes, orthopedic implants and as an additive in paint and cosmetics, including sunscreen, among many other things. Titanium mines in central Ukraine account for about 6 percent of global production, according to Ukrainian media.
Lithium, a crucial element in batteries, including those in electric vehicles, and in other industrial products, including some medications. Ukraine has a third of Europe’s total reserves, although some sites are in war-contested areas. Before the war with Russia, Ukrainian officials suggested to Elon Musk that he invest in Ukrainian lithium mines.
Rare earths, a group of more than a dozen metals, much less abundant than titanium or lithium, that are used in many high-tech sectors, including green energy, electronics and aerospace. Ukraine has substantial reserves that are mostly untapped, and it is unclear how expensive they would be to extract.
Manganese, used for steel smelting.
Zirconium, used in the ceramics industry, nuclear fuel rods and artificial diamonds.
Graphite, used in steel manufacturing and electric motors. Ukraine is one of the world’s leading producers.
Ukraine also has Europe’s largest reserves of uranium, used in nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons. Oil and natural gas fields dot several regions of Ukraine, and surveys conducted before the war found offshore natural gas reserves.
Why they’re valuable
Mr. Trump has said he wants revenue from the minerals as repayment for military aid that the United States has provided to Ukraine.
He also could be seeking access to gain a geopolitical advantage over Beijing: Ukraine could help break a Chinese near-monopoly on some rare earth metals needed for mobile phones, other electronics and possibly future technologies.
“It’s clear that Europe, Japan, and the United States are all dependent on China for rare earth elements,” Serhiy Vyzhva, director of the Institute of Geology at Taras Shevchenko National University of Kyiv, said in an interview.
Other ores, minerals and energy are less strategic but still valuable. Ukrainian oil and natural gas reserves could be a source of revenue for the U.S.-controlled fund envisioned in the agreement.
How the minerals would actually be extracted has not been extensively discussed with the Trump administration, but developing those resources has been long-term goal for Ukraine.
“Our geological base is similar to that of Canada and South Africa, both of which have extensive mineral resources,” said Mr. Vyzhva, the Ukrainian geologist.
The country’s most productive mines produce iron, titanium, manganese and zirconium, he said, adding that Ukraine was “highly interested” in investment, but its “main focus remains on ending the war.”
Remaining obstacles
When Mr. Zelensky last fall introduced the idea of trading natural resources for military support, he told the Ukrainian Parliament the country’s mineral wealth was worth “trillions” of dollars. That bonanza would be available to “either Russia and its allies or Ukraine and the democratic world” depending on who won the war, he said.
The resources are valuable but experts say that Mr. Zelensky’s estimate is exaggerated. Much exploration remains to be done to assess the true value of the country’s critical minerals, they say, and cumbersome bureaucracy and corruption has limited investment. Under a Soviet-era policy, for example, information about some reserves are classified as state secrets, preventing foreigners from even studying them, a Ukrainian business newspaper reported.
The Ukrainian government’s revenues last year from natural resources royalties were $1.1 billion, far less than the hundreds of billions of dollars Mr. Trump has said he is seeking from the agreement.
The International Energy Agency reported in 2023 that lithium is now mined in sufficient quantities around the world to meet global demand.
One lithium deposit and several rare earth deposits are in Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia. Some offshore natural gas deposits in the Black Sea are also inaccessible while fighting continues; some drilling platforms have become contested sea bases for both Russian and Ukrainian marines.
American and other international oil companies have also previously tried to do business in Ukraine.
Before Russia’s military incursion in eastern Ukraine in 2014, Ukraine cut deals with Chevron and Shell to explore for shale gas, which the country possesses in abundance — though it has not been economically viable to extract. Shell’s project ended with the Russian incursion, which occupied areas near the site of its project in the Donetsk region. Chevron’s project was canceled because of geological challenges.
What We Know About the U.S.-Ukraine Minerals Deal
A draft agreement discussed on Tuesday does not include a $500 billion payout the Trump administration demanded earlier.www.nytimes.com
whay do yall think about this???
I guess we rent out our Army for minerals. The only people getting paid off this are the oil gas and mineral companies in Trumps pocket. This is how colonial powers work. I guess at least they are raping a white country of their minerals.
This war was is about control of Europe and also control of resources!! Russia wants all of Eastern Europe back under its control why? Well because Europe natural resources or as they say critical minerals is all or mostly in Eastern Europe and Russia; main reason why Europe continues to business with Russia despite war! US wants urakine to help to control Russia as well as Europe also!! World is moving to certain types of resources; and countries that have them, like Ukraine, are gonna be pawns or players!! It’s hunger games with fucking countries!!!!!
And Ukraine was one of the USSR's main ports with access to the Black Sea and Mediterranean Sea...
Land & Resources...
True true!!
Actually trump is in their pockets…
Christ lmao! They're hustling thee fuck outta Ukraine
Now I'm starting to wonder if this whole shit was Putin and Trumps long-game plan the entire time
Ni different than what's been done to "Africa"
Officials in Ukraine and the Trump administration said they have reached a deal that would give the United States revenues from Ukraine’s minerals and other natural resources, after an intense pressure campaign by the American president.
Terms of the agreement
It is not clear if the two sides have reached final agreement on the terms of the deal.
A draft seen by The New York Times dated Feb. 25 described the creation of a U.S.-controlled fund that would receive revenue from Ukraine’s natural resources.
Missing from the draft was Mr. Trump’s initial demand that Ukraine contribute $500 billion to a fund owned by the United States and pay back twice the amount of any future American aid.
Under the draft agreement, Ukraine would contribute into the fund half of its revenues from the future monetization of natural resources, including critical minerals, oil and gas, as well as earnings from associated infrastructure, such as liquefied natural gas terminals and port infrastructure.
- The fund would not draw on revenue from existing mines, oil wells and other natural resources businesses.
- The United States would own the maximum financial interest in the fund allowed under American law, though not necessarily all. It is unclear how that would be interpreted.
- The fund would be designed to reinvest some revenues into Ukraine.
Security guarantee
The draft vaguely referenced security guarantees, but did not signal any specific U.S. commitment to safeguarding Ukraine’s security — a provision Kyiv has vigorously pressed to include as its war against Russia enters its fourth year.
A copy of the agreement obtained Wednesday by The New York Times included a sentence stating that the United States “supports Ukraine’s effort to obtain security guarantees needed to establish lasting peace.” Previous drafts did not have the phrase.
Approval process
President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine is expected to travel to Washington on Friday to sign the agreement with President Trump. The draft obtained by The Times showed Scott Bessent, the U.S. Treasury secretary, and Yulia Svyrydenko, Ukraine’s economy minister, as the initial signatories.
It was not clear whether the draft, dated Tuesday, was a final version.
Ukraine’s mineral resources
Ukraine controls more than 100 major deposits of critical minerals, according to a study by the Kyiv School of Economics, along with modest oil and natural gas reserves.
Ukraine also has deposits of 20 of the 50 minerals the U.S. Geological Survey lists as critical for America’s economic development and defense, including:
Titanium, used in construction, airplanes, orthopedic implants and as an additive in paint and cosmetics, including sunscreen, among many other things. Titanium mines in central Ukraine account for about 6 percent of global production, according to Ukrainian media.
Lithium, a crucial element in batteries, including those in electric vehicles, and in other industrial products, including some medications. Ukraine has a third of Europe’s total reserves, although some sites are in war-contested areas. Before the war with Russia, Ukrainian officials suggested to Elon Musk that he invest in Ukrainian lithium mines.
Rare earths, a group of more than a dozen metals, much less abundant than titanium or lithium, that are used in many high-tech sectors, including green energy, electronics and aerospace. Ukraine has substantial reserves that are mostly untapped, and it is unclear how expensive they would be to extract.
Manganese, used for steel smelting.
Zirconium, used in the ceramics industry, nuclear fuel rods and artificial diamonds.
Graphite, used in steel manufacturing and electric motors. Ukraine is one of the world’s leading producers.
Ukraine also has Europe’s largest reserves of uranium, used in nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons. Oil and natural gas fields dot several regions of Ukraine, and surveys conducted before the war found offshore natural gas reserves.
Why they’re valuable
Mr. Trump has said he wants revenue from the minerals as repayment for military aid that the United States has provided to Ukraine.
He also could be seeking access to gain a geopolitical advantage over Beijing: Ukraine could help break a Chinese near-monopoly on some rare earth metals needed for mobile phones, other electronics and possibly future technologies.
“It’s clear that Europe, Japan, and the United States are all dependent on China for rare earth elements,” Serhiy Vyzhva, director of the Institute of Geology at Taras Shevchenko National University of Kyiv, said in an interview.
Other ores, minerals and energy are less strategic but still valuable. Ukrainian oil and natural gas reserves could be a source of revenue for the U.S.-controlled fund envisioned in the agreement.
How the minerals would actually be extracted has not been extensively discussed with the Trump administration, but developing those resources has been long-term goal for Ukraine.
“Our geological base is similar to that of Canada and South Africa, both of which have extensive mineral resources,” said Mr. Vyzhva, the Ukrainian geologist.
The country’s most productive mines produce iron, titanium, manganese and zirconium, he said, adding that Ukraine was “highly interested” in investment, but its “main focus remains on ending the war.”
Remaining obstacles
When Mr. Zelensky last fall introduced the idea of trading natural resources for military support, he told the Ukrainian Parliament the country’s mineral wealth was worth “trillions” of dollars. That bonanza would be available to “either Russia and its allies or Ukraine and the democratic world” depending on who won the war, he said.
The resources are valuable but experts say that Mr. Zelensky’s estimate is exaggerated. Much exploration remains to be done to assess the true value of the country’s critical minerals, they say, and cumbersome bureaucracy and corruption has limited investment. Under a Soviet-era policy, for example, information about some reserves are classified as state secrets, preventing foreigners from even studying them, a Ukrainian business newspaper reported.
The Ukrainian government’s revenues last year from natural resources royalties were $1.1 billion, far less than the hundreds of billions of dollars Mr. Trump has said he is seeking from the agreement.
The International Energy Agency reported in 2023 that lithium is now mined in sufficient quantities around the world to meet global demand.
One lithium deposit and several rare earth deposits are in Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia. Some offshore natural gas deposits in the Black Sea are also inaccessible while fighting continues; some drilling platforms have become contested sea bases for both Russian and Ukrainian marines.
American and other international oil companies have also previously tried to do business in Ukraine.
Before Russia’s military incursion in eastern Ukraine in 2014, Ukraine cut deals with Chevron and Shell to explore for shale gas, which the country possesses in abundance — though it has not been economically viable to extract. Shell’s project ended with the Russian incursion, which occupied areas near the site of its project in the Donetsk region. Chevron’s project was canceled because of geological challenges.
What We Know About the U.S.-Ukraine Minerals Deal
A draft agreement discussed on Tuesday does not include a $500 billion payout the Trump administration demanded earlier.
whay do yall think about this???
A good deal for us. Instead of spending billions fighting for Ukraine for free, we are now getting compensated. These resources are critical for our future too. Artificial Intelligence, Battery storage, Nuclear Power, and Electric Vehicles will be core technologies in the near future. Securing the resources, secures our future.
Biden and his family made Billions from the fake war in Ukraine.
You do know all PsOTUS get kickbacks right?
You can’t be serious!! The US doesn’t fight nowhere for free!!!
Do you know the difference between an army and mercenaries. Army's fight to protect their country mercenaries fight for money. If our decision to fight is based on money it should not happen. Period. Never should we be using the American army to strongarm other countries for money. Because that puts our children at risk of death for a dollar. Never should we be in the business of letting our citizens die to enrich the country.
You spout shit like this but never provide any proof. Even one news article to prove you didn't get this from a radio show. You believe shit you saw on facebook with no factual basis. That's why nobody takes your coon brigade serious. Ya'll don't even read.
If you are a US citizen, then yes, WE.
So we get a deal in which we get Trillions in resources by doing what we have been doing and yall find a problem with it. Yall need to get over your feelings and just give props when due.
Uh. One no we would be commiting troops we currently are not committing Troops giving money is different then giving bodies. Trump is trading bodies for money and you cool with that? Aint no props due when caskets coming home.
Except that is not going to fucking happen now is it?
Also not that thousands are Africans are getting no aid at all.
They get no deal and they are DYING.
Support the decisions or not, your tax dollars you worked for are going towards policy...so it is still "WE".
But I try to stay out of these threads now. Every angle has been covered and some folks just want to win something in their day.
Man I feel you on this…
I’m trying to do the same but I know some cats don’t keep it 100 in these threads
I’m get there one day
It’s called common sense and experience. Have you even spoken to a politician in real life?
I’m not concerned about what the profane thinks. You all are the lemmings of society. Only meant to be drones for your overlords.
Weren't most of the Ashkenazis Jews involved in the slave trade Portuguese? There was a reason the slave markets in Brazil shut down on the Jewish Sabbath.
Those Ashkenazim are some of the richest devils on the planet from slave trade. Oh and let's not forget those assholes tried to kill the Czar of Russia is what got their asses in a heap of trouble with the Russians. Trouble so bad that they had to leave Russia in droves. No one would accept them but the Germans. Only for those devils to shit on the Germans and then guess what happened?
Didn't they succeed in Russia when the Bolsheviks came to power though? But, yeah, they're very rich. The Rothschild banking family being an example.
The gas chambers?
Germany got turned into a parking lot and split between the Western powers and the Soviet Union. I mean, yeah, the Jews got fucked up, badly, but so did the Germans.
He asked what happened after the devils shitted on the Germans?
I’m saying gas chambers, but You’re saying the split happened?
I’m curious to see what directions his thoughts was
Same. Given the context, I suspect he was going with the gas chambers too.