Watch the video. He was just happy and not surprised
Andre Ward Vs. Kovalev Tonight
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Why they do it in Olympics and it still sucks because it is subjective.
Just like the right hand that looked like it happened and one said it was a good right and Roy Jones aid Nah he thinks Ward rolled most of it but it landed and the replay showed it missed.
The reason most fighters don't get credit for body work is because most body work happens during in fighting and its hard to see..
They need to wear shit like fencers and have that electric shit
Very good points. The only thing though, unlike fencing, boxing has a shady ass reputation. So no matter what is done, people will always side eye the results.Why they do it in Olympics and it still sucks because it is subjective.
Just like the right hand that looked like it happened and one said it was a good right and Roy Jones aid Nah he thinks Ward rolled most of it but it landed and the replay showed it missed.
The reason most fighters don't get credit for body work is because most body work happens during in fighting and its hard to see..
They need to wear shit like fencers and have that electric shit
No robbery...I agree with the score....although I thought Kovalev pulled it out...damned good fight
yeah but he has though. He did against Maidana. Andre ALMOST never does, but he just did.
shady is being nice.
you know they said it was the mob who killed Sonny Listen.
he died from a hot shot but those who knew him said he didn't even do drugs.
I try not to listen to his bitch ass
Respect.
Finally seeing the fight....Lampley has a way of sounding like a casual fan despite all these years in the business...sounds like Lederman gave Kovalev round 9....can't take his opinion seriously after that
I agree. Kathy Duva is a dickhead.
Her and Abel Sanchez
Russian didn't do enough to hold on to the title. yeah he got a knockdown, but what happened after that? a few jabs connected, but what else? He kept leaving his body exposed and thats probably what cost him the fight. The champ can't just show up and fight an average fight.
Ali would have had 10 loses by these new rules.
The champion did do enough to keep the title. The challenger didn't do enough to take it.
The champ can fight an average fight because he is the champ.
What cost him the fight was he was Russian fighting in Las Vegas with three American judges. Ward got the home court advantage.
But that is how boxing used to be....If you wanted to be the champ you had to beat the champ. Hurt him, Dominate him not just throw some inside body shots.
Shit body shots ain't never been used to outpoint an opponent they are used to weaken and slow down the opponent so that you can then beat his ass. Not trade jabs
i feel you, but from what i saw, the champ didn't do enough. He was fighting someone with no losses, another great fighter. Average cannot be good enough against that. He needed to convincingly win. Paulies commentary during the fight was spot on. He and i saw it the same way. Ward outsmarted the russian.
This shit wasn't a "robbery." I can see where a draw could be argued, but Serge didn't do enough to win. He won rounds in more dramatic fashion, but Andre won more rounds. They should run it back after Serge beats Stevenson and Andre beats GGG.
Man good luck with getting Tripple G in the ring with any 'active fighter' over 160 (emphasis mine). Abel Sanchez et al aint letting that happen no time soon.
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Ain't no such thing as showing up winning 4 rounds and then retaining the belt cause you knocked him down once and he destroyed your body and basically had you whiffing and frustrated from round 7 on.
That's why it's scheduled for 12 rounds you gotta fight all 12
After that 2nd round he thought he won but ward refocused himself and neutralized his power completely
Ward made his punches basically meaningless that same jab that made him stop in his tracks in the 1st round he was stalking through them by round 8
BOTH of them have a hatred of Andre Ward and his team.
I believe Max Kellerman analysis was correct. Every round that Ward could have won was given to him by the judges. Could it be some bias? Possibly. Judges don't usually give proper credit for body punching but last night they did. Controversial decision but too close of a fight to call a robbery. I cannot fault Kovalev for thinking that he won. He did enough to think that without being delusional. However, Ward has every right to bask in his victory and feel that he earned it.
I saw the fight this morning after already hearing the decision and seeing the various analysis. I suspect that had I seen it live, I would have been extremely nervous when that decision was announced as a Ward fan. I am leaning towards what RJJ said. "a draw or a one point victory to Kovalev because of the knockdown". Either way a real close fight by two great fighters. There were definitely rounds were Kovalev threw one hard jab and you shouldn't win a round based on that. For the rematch, I am leaning a little more strongly to a Ward victory because he has fought Kovalev and now understands how to time him better. One caveat, if Kovalev felt Ward's power and was not bothered by it, he might press a little harder which may have good or bad consequences for him.
One last thing, fights are scored by rounds. No such thing as did enough to take or keep the belt. There can be a fight where the real winner by rounds is not who you think won the fight when taken as a whole. When Kovalev was dominant, he was more dominant than when Ward was dominant (although Ward was really great in round 9 which HBO scored for Kovalev). I believe this could be influencing those who are calling it a robbery. Fight was too close for that.
I saw the fight this morning after already hearing the decision and seeing the various analysis. I suspect that had I seen it live, I would have been extremely nervous when that decision was announced as a Ward fan. I am leaning towards what RJJ said. "a draw or a one point victory to Kovalev because of the knockdown". Either way a real close fight by two great fighters. There were definitely rounds were Kovalev threw one hard jab and you shouldn't win a round based on that. For the rematch, I am leaning a little more strongly to a Ward victory because he has fought Kovalev and now understands how to time him better. One caveat, if Kovalev felt Ward's power and was not bothered by it, he might press a little harder which may have good or bad consequences for him.
One last thing, fights are scored by rounds. No such thing as did enough to take or keep the belt. There can be a fight where the real winner by rounds is not who you think won the fight when taken as a whole. When Kovalev was dominant, he was more dominant than when Ward was dominant (although Ward was really great in round 9 which HBO scored for Kovalev). I believe this could be influencing those who are calling it a robbery. Fight was too close for that.
What new rules?
The Marquess of Queensbury rules have not changed since 1865.
Floyd got caught once not expecting a 1-2. When Maidana buzzed him real good after Floyd tried to catch him with a pull counter on the ropes. It's no wonder how Floyd didn't get caught like that more because he used the pull counter as a way to deter you from throwing the jab.
I didn't say it has never happened though. I'm just saying he reads it so well that he rarely calls it incorrectly.
after watching the fight, I don't see ward beating GGG , he would cut that ring off and hurt ward
Its funny you say that cause after seeing what a smaller Kell Brook did to him [Golovkin], I don't see him beating a skillful 168er let alone anybody fighting at 175.
Sheeeiiiiiiittttt....
Your premise is wayyyyyyyyy off... Ward would bully GGG. He's the bigger man. There's a reason GGG has avoided Ward over the years. Ward would have gladly stayed at 168 instead of moving up to fight at 175.
Kov is bigger and hits harder than GGG.