Black Adam movie gets a release date of July 29, 2022. (Dwayne Johnson, The Rock )
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But see that is the wrong thing to do. Sandra Bullock got nominated for a Razzie. She showed up to accept that shyt! George Clooney will make more fun of his Batman before ANYBODY else. You want it to be forgotten, lean into it and accept it and it is only brought up in reference.
I hear you. But that movie meant too much to him PERSONALLY to do that.
Those others wouldn't have done that for their first passion product produced by them and developed almost a decade by them.
He messed up but he got his act right now. That is all that is important.
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I agree. The film was awful though.
Dwayne Johnson Weighs In on Henry Cavill’s DC Exit After ‘Black Adam’ Brought Superman Back: We ‘Put Our Best Foot Forward’
Dwayne Johnson's plan for Black Adam and Henry Cavill's Superman to face off on the big screen is effectively dead.
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I doubt that would happen..probably be saying he doesnt want any involvement with Shazam like before
I doubt that would happen..probably be saying he doesnt want any involvement with Shazam like before
It's 99% never gonna happen.
But I've seen WAY too much stuff in that town to say it's a definite
Cause I would NEVER believe Cavill would have been back.
And then be let go again.
That WB sold a potential modern classic batman animated series to Amazon?
Batgirl REALLY was shelved and never leaked.
That Neive scream 5 would be a huge hit and then she would LEAVE and the next one be an even bigger hit with the sequel already in the works?
Jenna Ortega would be the hottest actress out.
Ant man would SHATTER first weekend expectations and still flop
Feige star wars movie would be cancelled.
So if you told me Black Adam popped up at end of this God's & monsters (wink wink) phase of DC somehow or on Peacemaker?
I would NOT be surprised.
I am NOT saying it's gonna happen.
That movie was...
There was a good movie in there somewhere. It was and should have been a summer release.
But what found frusrating about that movie is the fact we waited almost a decade
They had so many opportunities to go back and tweak it.
especially the 3rd act
especially WHY BLACK ADAM IS DOING WHAT IHE IS DOING!
Create a fully formed villain.
Work on the effects show the JSA
if put aside ALL that?
there was a good movie there.
Would be funny if he has a uncredited cameo in The Flash..
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How Dwayne Johnson Kneecapped ‘Black Adam’ and ‘Shazam 2’ While Trying to Take Over DC | Exclusive
The underwhelming $65 million worldwide debut of “Shazam! Fury of the Gods” is another black mark for the DC Universe, the second-string superhero stable. But there’s another villain, insiders told TheWrap: Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, whose behind-the-scenes maneuvering to boost another DC property — “Black Adam,” in which he starred — may well end up tanking both franchises, they said.
To be clear, DC has a host of problems that aren’t Johnson’s fault, which is why Warner Bros. Discovery is attempting a reboot under James Gunn and Peter Safran. But in trying to shape “Black Adam” as the new center of the DC Universe — a strategy that failed to bolster “Black Adam” and undercut the once-promising “Shazam” franchise — Johnson may have kneecapped both, painting a portrait of a celebrity who put his own brand before the work.
Johnson did plenty of work in public to undermine “Shazam,” chiefly by promoting a face-off between Black Adam and Superman instead of the more canonical link between the hero Zachary Levi played and the former pro wrestler’s own character. Privately, he vetoed a planned post-credits scene in “Black Adam,” which would have seen Shazam recruited by Aldis Hodge’s Hawkman, and other costumed heroes, into the Justice Society of America, TheWrap can report exclusively, thanks to disclosures by two high-level Hollywood insiders.
There’s plenty to blame for the underwhelming grosses for “Black Adam” and “Shazam! Fury of the Gods,” including middling reviews and the mixed message sent by the DC Studios revamp. Like “The Lego Movie,” “Shazam 2” might be another example of a movie where the audience saw the original as family-friendly fare but perceived the sequel as a kid flick with limited appeal. Still, Johnson’s public and private actions seemed to play an undeniable role.
A representative for Johnson didn’t respond to TheWrap’s request for comment. Reps for Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema declined to comment.
Problems cooking with “The Rock”
“Dwayne tries to sell himself as bigger than the movie,” said a high-ranking Hollywood executive who asked for anonymity in order to discuss talent matters frankly while speaking to TheWrap. “He’s one of the few people who always thinks he’s the most important person in any situation or room.”
That plays into the kind of franchises that Johnson usually spearheads, like the movie based on the “Rampage” video game, a remake of the cinematic adaptation of Jules Verne’s novel “The Mysterious Island,” or “Jumanji.” Problems arose when Johnson entered a franchise that was bigger than him, like the “Fast & Furious” series, where he clashed with franchise architect Vin Diesel, or “Baywatch,” where his star power couldn’t save an expensive film built on weak IP.
A superheroic fight
Johnson spent much of the weeks before the release of “Black Adam” touting not the movie itself or his character’s in-universe connection to Shazam but instead on a theoretical clash of the titans between himself and Henry Cavill’s Superman. Then-DC Films head Walter Hamada vetoed a cameo by the star of the divisively received “Man of Steel,” “Batman v Superman” and “Justice League,” but Johnson went over his head and got approval from Warner Bros. Film Group co-CEOs Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy.
“Instead of making a movie, he wants to extend his brand and make a brand centered on himself,” said the Hollywood executive who criticized Johnson. An Instagram post in which he declared that “the hierarchy of power in the DC Universe is about to change” was an implicit statement that Johnson’s Black Adam should be the new focal point of the universe. That meant positioning himself to go up against Henry Cavill’s Superman, not Zachary Levi’s goofy Shazam.
The actor failed to learn the lesson of Universal’s Dark Universe
As the architects of Universal’s canceled Dark Universe or Warner Bros.’ “King Arthur and the Legend of the Sword” might tell you, you don’t promise a cinematic universe before you have a hit like Marvel did with “Iron Man.”
Johnson spiked plans in the mid-2010s to make a film featuring both Shazam and Black Adam in favor of two separate films. That worked out well for Levi’s acclaimed and successful first “Shazam” movie. As a dark, violent and unapologetically rock ‘em-sock ‘em actioner, it was the right call for “Black Adam” as well. The issue came with Johnson going rogue and implicitly maligning the “Shazam” franchise without checking to see if anyone wanted to see a “Black Adam vs. Superman” movie.
Maybe Johnson mistook the online conversation about Cavill’s run as Kal-El for real-world interest, or he didn’t realize that online discourse about Zack Snyder’s first three DC films was partially a bot-driven vocal minority. Perhaps he didn’t care.
Either way, the actor-producer spent September and October selling the notion that bringing back Henry Cavill as the Last Son of Krypton was what “the fans wanted.” The narrative was framed in a way as to further fan the flames of an ongoing civil war between those in the so-called SnyderVerse and the mainstream DCU.
New DC Studios co-chief and “Shazam” producer Peter Safran resurfaced a version of the post-credits sequence Johnson vetoed, and it now exists as a mid-credits cookie in “Fury of the Gods.” But Johnson nixed the use of “Black Adam” actors and the scene now plays out with Jennifer Holland and Steve Agee from “Suicide Squad” and “Peacemaker.”
“By alienating the established property that his character was born out of, and refusing to integrate with other established characters, [Johnson] systematically crippled two franchises, and has harmed DC in the process,” another Hollywood insider told TheWrap.
A refusal to concede failure
“Black Adam” underperformed relative to its cost, earning $168 million domestically and $393 million worldwide on a COVID-affected $230 million budget. That global total is right between “G.I Joe: Retaliation” ($375 million in 2013) and “Rampage” ($430 million in 2018), but those films -– along with both “Jumanji” sequels, “Journey 2: The Incredible Island” and “San Andreas” — cost between $80 million and $130 million.
“Johnson was a big reason why [“Black Adam”] was able to perform above the level it likely would have without him,” said Boxoffice Pro Chief Analyst Shawn Robbins. In a pre-pandemic environment, the movie likely would have added an extra $125 million-$175 million from Russia and China, giving it a good-enough $550 million global total. But the other problem might be underestimating the overlap between the audience for a DC cape flick and a Dwayne Johnson action fantasy.
Johnson, meanwhile, touted a profit projection for “Black Adam” and compared its worldwide gross to the first “Captain America.” In terms of painting its star as unwilling to concede to commercial reality, the cover-up was worse than the crime. At least Jared Leto didn’t spend last April swearing that “Morbius” was a hit.
“Franchise Viagra” no more
Ten years ago, the release of “G.I. Joe: Retaliation,” starring Johnson as new protagonist Roadblock, was seen as evidence he could juice an existing theatrical franchise. His supporting role in the acclaimed and $620 million-grossing “Fast Five” helped turn the franchise into an A-level action series, and “Journey 2: The Incredible Island” earned more ($335 million) than Brendan Fraser’s “Journey to the Center of the Earth” ($244 million). The narrative stuck even while “Retaliation” earned less domestically ($122 million) than Stephen Sommers’ “G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra” ($150 million).
Warner Bros. Discovery is making like Walt Disney and pledging to keep moving forward, expressing extreme confidence in both “The Flash” and the soft reboot plans hatched by Peter Safran and James Gunn beginning with “Superman: Legacy” in 2025.
Yet Gunn and Safran have a talent challenge in their reboot: A key star damaged the once-promising “Shazam” franchise while strangling another, “Black Adam,” in its crib. Johnson’s public pandering to an online vocal minority and refusal to concede box-office defeat has likewise hurt his franchise-saving reputation.
Johnson tried to remold the DC Universe in his image, and in doing so he not only failed to save the franchise but actively contributed to its downfall. What’s the opposite of franchise Viagra?
How Dwayne Johnson Kneecapped ‘Black Adam’ and ‘Shazam 2’ While Trying to Take Over DC | Exclusive
The underwhelming $65 million worldwide debut of “Shazam! Fury of the Gods” is another black mark for the DC Universe, the second-string superhero stable. But there’s another villain, insiders told TheWrap: Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, whose behind-the-scenes maneuvering to boost another DC property — “Black Adam,” in which he starred — may well end up tanking both franchises, they said.
To be clear, DC has a host of problems that aren’t Johnson’s fault, which is why Warner Bros. Discovery is attempting a reboot under James Gunn and Peter Safran. But in trying to shape “Black Adam” as the new center of the DC Universe — a strategy that failed to bolster “Black Adam” and undercut the once-promising “Shazam” franchise — Johnson may have kneecapped both, painting a portrait of a celebrity who put his own brand before the work.
Johnson did plenty of work in public to undermine “Shazam,” chiefly by promoting a face-off between Black Adam and Superman instead of the more canonical link between the hero Zachary Levi played and the former pro wrestler’s own character. Privately, he vetoed a planned post-credits scene in “Black Adam,” which would have seen Shazam recruited by Aldis Hodge’s Hawkman, and other costumed heroes, into the Justice Society of America, TheWrap can report exclusively, thanks to disclosures by two high-level Hollywood insiders.
There’s plenty to blame for the underwhelming grosses for “Black Adam” and “Shazam! Fury of the Gods,” including middling reviews and the mixed message sent by the DC Studios revamp. Like “The Lego Movie,” “Shazam 2” might be another example of a movie where the audience saw the original as family-friendly fare but perceived the sequel as a kid flick with limited appeal. Still, Johnson’s public and private actions seemed to play an undeniable role.
A representative for Johnson didn’t respond to TheWrap’s request for comment. Reps for Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema declined to comment.
Problems cooking with “The Rock”
“Dwayne tries to sell himself as bigger than the movie,” said a high-ranking Hollywood executive who asked for anonymity in order to discuss talent matters frankly while speaking to TheWrap. “He’s one of the few people who always thinks he’s the most important person in any situation or room.”
That plays into the kind of franchises that Johnson usually spearheads, like the movie based on the “Rampage” video game, a remake of the cinematic adaptation of Jules Verne’s novel “The Mysterious Island,” or “Jumanji.” Problems arose when Johnson entered a franchise that was bigger than him, like the “Fast & Furious” series, where he clashed with franchise architect Vin Diesel, or “Baywatch,” where his star power couldn’t save an expensive film built on weak IP.
A superheroic fight
Johnson spent much of the weeks before the release of “Black Adam” touting not the movie itself or his character’s in-universe connection to Shazam but instead on a theoretical clash of the titans between himself and Henry Cavill’s Superman. Then-DC Films head Walter Hamada vetoed a cameo by the star of the divisively received “Man of Steel,” “Batman v Superman” and “Justice League,” but Johnson went over his head and got approval from Warner Bros. Film Group co-CEOs Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy.
“Instead of making a movie, he wants to extend his brand and make a brand centered on himself,” said the Hollywood executive who criticized Johnson. An Instagram post in which he declared that “the hierarchy of power in the DC Universe is about to change” was an implicit statement that Johnson’s Black Adam should be the new focal point of the universe. That meant positioning himself to go up against Henry Cavill’s Superman, not Zachary Levi’s goofy Shazam.
The actor failed to learn the lesson of Universal’s Dark Universe
As the architects of Universal’s canceled Dark Universe or Warner Bros.’ “King Arthur and the Legend of the Sword” might tell you, you don’t promise a cinematic universe before you have a hit like Marvel did with “Iron Man.”
Johnson spiked plans in the mid-2010s to make a film featuring both Shazam and Black Adam in favor of two separate films. That worked out well for Levi’s acclaimed and successful first “Shazam” movie. As a dark, violent and unapologetically rock ‘em-sock ‘em actioner, it was the right call for “Black Adam” as well. The issue came with Johnson going rogue and implicitly maligning the “Shazam” franchise without checking to see if anyone wanted to see a “Black Adam vs. Superman” movie.
Maybe Johnson mistook the online conversation about Cavill’s run as Kal-El for real-world interest, or he didn’t realize that online discourse about Zack Snyder’s first three DC films was partially a bot-driven vocal minority. Perhaps he didn’t care.
Either way, the actor-producer spent September and October selling the notion that bringing back Henry Cavill as the Last Son of Krypton was what “the fans wanted.” The narrative was framed in a way as to further fan the flames of an ongoing civil war between those in the so-called SnyderVerse and the mainstream DCU.
New DC Studios co-chief and “Shazam” producer Peter Safran resurfaced a version of the post-credits sequence Johnson vetoed, and it now exists as a mid-credits cookie in “Fury of the Gods.” But Johnson nixed the use of “Black Adam” actors and the scene now plays out with Jennifer Holland and Steve Agee from “Suicide Squad” and “Peacemaker.”
“By alienating the established property that his character was born out of, and refusing to integrate with other established characters, [Johnson] systematically crippled two franchises, and has harmed DC in the process,” another Hollywood insider told TheWrap.
A refusal to concede failure
“Black Adam” underperformed relative to its cost, earning $168 million domestically and $393 million worldwide on a COVID-affected $230 million budget. That global total is right between “G.I Joe: Retaliation” ($375 million in 2013) and “Rampage” ($430 million in 2018), but those films -– along with both “Jumanji” sequels, “Journey 2: The Incredible Island” and “San Andreas” — cost between $80 million and $130 million.
“Johnson was a big reason why [“Black Adam”] was able to perform above the level it likely would have without him,” said Boxoffice Pro Chief Analyst Shawn Robbins. In a pre-pandemic environment, the movie likely would have added an extra $125 million-$175 million from Russia and China, giving it a good-enough $550 million global total. But the other problem might be underestimating the overlap between the audience for a DC cape flick and a Dwayne Johnson action fantasy.
Johnson, meanwhile, touted a profit projection for “Black Adam” and compared its worldwide gross to the first “Captain America.” In terms of painting its star as unwilling to concede to commercial reality, the cover-up was worse than the crime. At least Jared Leto didn’t spend last April swearing that “Morbius” was a hit.
“Franchise Viagra” no more
Ten years ago, the release of “G.I. Joe: Retaliation,” starring Johnson as new protagonist Roadblock, was seen as evidence he could juice an existing theatrical franchise. His supporting role in the acclaimed and $620 million-grossing “Fast Five” helped turn the franchise into an A-level action series, and “Journey 2: The Incredible Island” earned more ($335 million) than Brendan Fraser’s “Journey to the Center of the Earth” ($244 million). The narrative stuck even while “Retaliation” earned less domestically ($122 million) than Stephen Sommers’ “G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra” ($150 million).
Warner Bros. Discovery is making like Walt Disney and pledging to keep moving forward, expressing extreme confidence in both “The Flash” and the soft reboot plans hatched by Peter Safran and James Gunn beginning with “Superman: Legacy” in 2025.
Yet Gunn and Safran have a talent challenge in their reboot: A key star damaged the once-promising “Shazam” franchise while strangling another, “Black Adam,” in its crib. Johnson’s public pandering to an online vocal minority and refusal to concede box-office defeat has likewise hurt his franchise-saving reputation.
Johnson tried to remold the DC Universe in his image, and in doing so he not only failed to save the franchise but actively contributed to its downfall. What’s the opposite of franchise Viagra?
BLADE Actor Stephen Dorff On "Garbage" Superhero Movies: "Nobody's Remembering BLACK ADAM"
Stephen Dorff has taken some pretty harsh swipes at Marvel/superhero movies in the past, and the Blade actor really outdoes himself in this new interview!
Nobody’s remembering Black Adam at the end of the day. I didn’t even see that movie, it looked so bad."
Noah Centineo on ‘The Recruit,’ ‘Black Adam’ and His Journey From Teen Heartthrob to Action Star
The actor also opens up about adjusting to fame, his experience on the DC film, veering away from rom-com roles and why he doesn't have a dream project.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Damn bro.
Too late.
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That's his ego. Remember when we talked about how certain creators (re: Gunn, James & Kojima, Hideo) need to be reined in?
The Rock is one of those ppl. The difference is The Rock has less talent on the creative side of the business. It wouldn't have hurt to tease Black Adam at the end of Shazam.
I STILL don't understand that decision.
Because it doesn't make sense except from the perspective of his ego. He couldn't play the top dawg, Superman, so he'd do the next "best thing": take a relatively obscure character and make him as big as Superman on the strength of star power alone.
It didn't work.
But it was such a BAD decision on every level
It would have made Shazam a success more likely...
Remember how a brief cameo in the Mummy got such an INSANE reaction in theatres the studio got him his OWN movie
plus Shazam IS the Rock's audience!
Why not tap into that support that INCREASE that? Levi aint taking any SHINE from Rocky. Do this and the audience goes CRAZY for the sequel and the Black Adam has the PERFECT introduction into the DCEU.
It was a no brainer.
Trust me I UNDRSTAND The Rock's ?logic? at the TIME but it was flawed
The Rock could have had a KILLER end credit scene with djimon hounsou
And LEAVE IN the Cavill teaser in the original Shazam
THEN you create a natural connection between them ALL.
Damn Rocky.
the rock directing
In all seriousness?
Those two in a sci fi action flick like THAT?
Bring back the Pitch Black Monsters AND all the Riddick mythology plus some NEW SH*T?!?
Going at it then teaming up just destroying an entire planet?
THAT aint making 500 million next summer?
it doesnt matter
g
Buy no you right
Its no brainer
Its funny how the rock can work with kev tho
He ego too maybe cause he can beat him up
Their white side lol
Buy no you right
Its no brainer
Its funny how the rock can work with kev tho
He ego too maybe cause he can beat him up
This my point he would never accept loss to superman on big screen.
He would go off script take 13 almondz and murder Henry cavil
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30 pages so this movie must be good as hell then
Let's face it.
This little vanity project of Dwayne's was doomed almost from "go".
In spite of his boasting about "listening to the fans", The Rock didn't really do his homework nor was he truly interested in following DC comic lore.
If he was honest with himself (and the fans), he'd have known that the next film involving his character should've been:
A film in which he's the villain or he's duped into villainy by the likes of:
Finally, (perhaps) leading up to:
But, instead, The Rock just said; "Fuck it. I'm the hero in this universe. There ain't NO WAY I'm lose a fight to a 2nd rate hero like Shazam. I want to fight Superman".
And as I understand it, The Rock (just like Jason Statham) is a "modern" action hero who simply MUST win all his cinematic fights.
(Or end in a draw).
Unlike Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, Van Damme or Norris it's actually written in his contract just how many punches/hits/blows they allow their opponent to inflict upon them before they win a fight. But their must never lose a fight.
It's really kind of sad if you think about it...
This little vanity project of Dwayne's was doomed almost from "go".
In spite of his boasting about "listening to the fans", The Rock didn't really do his homework nor was he truly interested in following DC comic lore.
If he was honest with himself (and the fans), he'd have known that the next film involving his character should've been:
A film in which he's the villain or he's duped into villainy by the likes of:
Finally, (perhaps) leading up to:
But, instead, The Rock just said; "Fuck it. I'm the hero in this universe. There ain't NO WAY I'm lose a fight to a 2nd rate hero like Shazam. I want to fight Superman".
And as I understand it, The Rock (just like Jason Statham) is a "modern" action hero who simply MUST win all his cinematic fights.
(Or end in a draw).
Unlike Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Willis, Van Damme or Norris it's actually written in his contract just how many punches/hits/blows they allow their opponent to inflict upon them before they win a fight. But their must never lose a fight.
It's really kind of sad if you think about it...
If Will Smith is still viable, The Rock should have no problems. He got a bit carried away with a passion project but nothing has come out that really smears his character or image.
But this is a VERY public spanking
And this seems coordinated
Especially with Levy bitchy comments
@ViCiouS has a point.