Re: Black women are destroying the black community and we need to find a way to stop
yall late as shit
yall late as shit
Na fuck that...date the ones that grew up with a father or had a father figure
I'm not finna read all this. I read the OP, a good point was made.
All can say is idealy, blame should/would be equally shared, however, women (not just Black women, but since this is about the Black community, I will say Black women) control their own destiny 100%. Since they are the ones who allow men to fuck and allow men to hit it raw, ultimately, they are responsible.
If a bank is giving away loans, but they don't require credit checks, people are gonna come in and borrow money. Some people are gonna repay it, some people aren't, If your aren't careful with who you let borrow money, then you're at fault when they don't fulfill their terms. You can try and sue them to get the money back, but if they broke, they broke and YOU'RE stuck with a bad loan. Too many bad loans and the bank FAILS.
Yeah, I know that isn't fair, blah blah double standard, but there are double standards everywhere, that's life. Women stop making bad sexual partner choices and niggas are motivated to improve. Women make men wear protection all the time, you don't have kids unplanned.
^^^Agreed 100%, but what about when the woman makes the right choice only for the man to change further down the line and turn into an asshole?
Sometimes, good folks go bad.
Has anyone considered this reality?
^^^Agreed 100%, but what about when the woman makes the right choice only for the man to change further down the line and turn into an asshole?
Sometimes, good folks go bad.
Has anyone considered this reality?
cmon champ!!! how often does this shit happen?
you mean all these chicks getting pregnant in highschool 2-3 times had good cats? that turned bad?
all the chicks that get pregnant from niggas at the club?
the one who get knocked up from legit relationships? you got a point...but not from fuck buddys, not from being a jump-off etc
I agree. But how many times does that shit happen bruh? In my line of work, I've seen tens of thousands of cases and rarely, in the cases of what I would call bad fathers, was the nigga a do-right nigga who just got fucked up.
Even still, you're not gonna get a 100 percent reduction in the numbers, but 70-80 percent, I'll fucking take that in a heartbeat.
If you a club and you constantly getting shot in, you gotta change your approach. Improve who you let in, put big bouncers at the front, upgrade yourself. Sure a nigga might sneak in and some shit pop off, but it won't be EVERY damn weekend like it usually is.
Does that put an unfair burden on Black women? Possibly, but the rewards are greater than the cost. Of course, no women on this board will see this as fair because, to the best of my knowledge, there are only a few women with multiple baby daddies (Montana, OnyxFemme, etc), so these young women who are about something are already handling their business and not being stupid and letting niggas hit it raw outside of a committed relationship and making good choices.
cmon champ!!! how often does this shit happen?
you mean all these chicks getting pregnant in highschool 2-3 times had good cats? that turned bad?
all the chicks that get pregnant from niggas at the club?
the one who get knocked up from legit relationships? you got a point...but not from fuck buddys, not from being a jump-off etc
To the OP
I agree that some Black women have made bad judgement calls in regards to relationships and that some could do better in picking a “man”/husband/role model for their children
However ... those men being thugs and dogs isn’t our fault so some responsibly has to lie with some Black men who have made choices to behave in that manner ... not all of these thugs/dogs came from single parent homes ... some had fathers who "lived that life" as well so they followed in those foot steps
Another problem in the Black community (on top of what you say is women with multiple "baby daddies") is some Black men who are overly sexually active ... having unprotected sex with numerous women ... I mean if a man has 10 kids by 9 women is it really only the womens fault???
Of course the women play a part in it due to their bad judgement ... but putting all the blame of ones actions on somebody else will never resolve any problems
In order for us to get a real solution we all need to acknowledge our faults and collectively move forward together
And I need to ask what is your suggestion on “stopping us”?
In order for us to get a real solution we all need to acknowledge our faults and collectively move forward together
Yes but what's worse is we now live in a culture in our community which makes it acceptable and even desirable.
Actually, you're more responsible than you think. Let me explain...
When young men want sex, and they look and the only one getting the girls are the thugs, ballers, gangstas, and dudes who play and misuse women, what do you think they are going to do???
Evolution kicks in. It's actually subconscious on some level. They start doing the the things that will attract the opposite sex too!!!
Yes I agree that some are choosing to behave in a certain manner, and some of that is because of them being poor or where they live at. But a lot of that shit is because they are trying to be cool, fit in and get a lot of women. If they were being ostracized by women, and couldn't get dates, a lot of them would pull their pants up, cut their hair, get a job and act like some-fucking-body.
Uh. Yeah. That's one of the problems I was alluding to. You have a problem where only 20% of the men are fucking and impregnating 80% of the females.
Look... I don't care whether a male is overly sexually active and and has 10 kids by 9 women... Why are you letting that person between your legs??? It seems to me that these are the type of men that you women prefer. The player baller types, the ones that you know are sneaking around having sex with and dogging women. That's the problem here. But black women find this sex that you want the baller and the player who's misusing women.
EXACTLY! Which is why we need women to stop trying to blame men for there not being more black men in the home.
No we can't move forward together. Because we are not the ones collectively holding us back.
I'm not totally sure yet, but I had put some thought into it.
1) The discussion has to be had.
First and and formost we have to start having the discussion about this. We're not going to get anywhere until we as men start acknowledging what's going on.
The fist step to solving a problem is to first acknowledge that there is a problem and then to accurately diagnose what that problem is.
By having the real discussion can acknowledge what is really going on in our community. Wrong discussion and misdiagnosis can only cause more harm and we cannot even begin to reach a real solution until we first start acknowledging what our real problems are.
2) We have to acknowledge that we men and women are not equally responsible here
We have to acknowledge that we men and women are not equally responsible here. Or in other words, we have to do the opposite of what you said.
No. We can't move forward together. Because we are not the ones collectively holding us back.
Understand what I said before. I'll repeat. Black women, not men, are the ones who decide who the next generation of fathers are going to be. Short of rape, it is the woman who decides who gets in between her legs and impregnates her. Period.
3) We as black men have to stop accepting responsibility for things that are not our fault.
We have to stop accepting responsibility for things that are not our fault. Now if something is our fault then of course we should man up and take responsibility. But if it's not our fault, then we should man up and refuse to take responsibility. We can't keep siting around allowing women to dump the blame on us because it lets them off the hook, and nothing gets fixed. Oh, and fellas quit the "black women are our queen on a pedestal" shit. It ain't helping.
4) We have to start demanding that women accept responsibility for their part in this.
we have to start demanding that women accept responsibility for their part in this. This includes the ones that aren't doing it, but have either sat by quietly while giving silent approval, or looked the other way.
5) No more one-sided conversations
We as men have to get into the conversation and to start speaking out about the insane, out of control behavior, we see in the black community perpetrated by women. Up until now this has been a one sided conversation. That has to stop. It is this one-sided conversation that has painted a false picture of what 's going on and who is at fault.
Up until now we have been mostly silent. We've for the most part stood by silently while this conversation has been conducted mainly by women and a few men who are too busy simping. We must change this.
6) We must call out the simps
We must call out the simps, the man-vaginas (man-ginas), and the castrati (the castrated ones) when they are running cover for this type of behavior. These are the ones that show up with the "black women are our queen bullshit." or the "men should accept all the responsibility and let's kiss women's toes" bullshit
7) We must call out the "I-think-I'm-An-Alpha-Male-And-You-Got-No-Game-So-I'm-Going-To-Look-Down-My-Nose-at-You" cool guy
You know these guys. These are the thugs/players/badboys who don't really want the conversation to be had or things to change because they benefit from the status quo. These are the guy who always show up and explain how "you're just lame" or "you can't get no pussy". This isn't really true, but they throw this out there because it makes them feel superior, and it's an attempt to derail the conversation.
But as I've already demonstrated earlier these guys are see through and easily exposed and defeated.
Yes but what's worse is we now live in a culture in our community which makes it acceptable and even desirable.
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But as I've already demonstrated earlier these guys are see through and easily exposed and defeated.
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I'm not totally sure yet, but I had put some thought into it.
1) The discussion has to be had.
First and and formost we have to start having the discussion about this. We're not going to get anywhere until we as men start acknowledging what's going on.
The fist step to solving a problem is to first acknowledge that there is a problem and then to accurately diagnose what that problem is.
By having the real discussion can acknowledge what is really going on in our community. Wrong discussion and misdiagnosis can only cause more harm and we cannot even begin to reach a real solution until we first start acknowledging what our real problems are.
2) We have to acknowledge that we men and women are not equally responsible here
We have to acknowledge that we men and women are not equally responsible here. Or in other words, we have to do the opposite of what you said.
No. We can't move forward together. Because we are not the ones collectively holding us back.
Understand what I said before. I'll repeat. Black women, not men, are the ones who decide who the next generation of fathers are going to be. Short of rape, it is the woman who decides who gets in between her legs and impregnates her. Period.
3) We as black men have to stop accepting responsibility for things that are not our fault.
We have to stop accepting responsibility for things that are not our fault. Now if something is our fault then of course we should man up and take responsibility. But if it's not our fault, then we should man up and refuse to take responsibility. We can't keep siting around allowing women to dump the blame on us because it lets them off the hook, and nothing gets fixed. Oh, and fellas quit the "black women are our queen on a pedestal" shit. It ain't helping.
4) We have to start demanding that women accept responsibility for their part in this.
we have to start demanding that women accept responsibility for their part in this. This includes the ones that aren't doing it, but have either sat by quietly while giving silent approval, or looked the other way.
5) No more one-sided conversations
We as men have to get into the conversation and to start speaking out about the insane, out of control behavior, we see in the black community perpetrated by women. Up until now this has been a one sided conversation. That has to stop. It is this one-sided conversation that has painted a false picture of what 's going on and who is at fault.
Up until now we have been mostly silent. We've for the most part stood by silently while this conversation has been conducted mainly by women and a few men who are too busy simping. We must change this.
6) We must call out the simps
We must call out the simps, the man-vaginas (man-ginas), and the castrati (the castrated ones) when they are running cover for this type of behavior. These are the ones that show up with the "black women are our queen bullshit." or the "men should accept all the responsibility and let's kiss women's toes" bullshit
7) We must call out the "I-think-I'm-An-Alpha-Male-And-You-Got-No-Game-So-I'm-Going-To-Look-Down-My-Nose-at-You" cool guy
You know these guys. These are the thugs/players/badboys who don't really want the conversation to be had or things to change because they benefit from the status quo. These are the guy who always show up and explain how "you're just lame" or "you can't get no pussy". This isn't really true, but they throw this out there because it makes them feel superior, and it's an attempt to derail the conversation.
But as I've already demonstrated earlier these guys are see through and easily exposed and defeated.
Here's a statistic for you....
70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4865449
(And yes there was even a BGOL thread on this topic.)
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=286641
So...
70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock.
But who are these children born to??? Who are the fathers of these children???
More than likely these dead beats are the bad boys who you see these females chasing after.
I've seen more than my fair share of these sob stories and they all tend to follow the same track.
Yeah there are exceptions to the rules.
It is said. Men should man up and take care of their children.
Bullshit.
MEN already take care of their children. THAT"S WHAT MAKES THEM MEN.
MEN take care of their responsibilities.
MEN get real jobs.
MEN are fathers to their children.
Oh yeah and most importantly...
real MEN are GOOD ROLE MODELS to their children. In other words they get real jobs and not sell drugs, commit crimes, go to jail, and talk and dress like complete imbeciles!!!
Of course a lot of black women in our communities don't date men like that. No instead that date badboys and THUGS.
Nobody ever wants to talk about this. Instead they want to blame black men for shit we didn't do!!!!
Let's be honest about this. BLACK MEN ARE NOT THE FUCKING PROBLEM!!!
A large portion of our women want and mate with thugs.... PERIOD!
Yes they're MALES.
But remember this...
All men are males, BUT ALL MALES AREN'T MEN!
THUGS are the OPPOSITE of men....
THUGS DON'T take care of their responsibilities. Thugs and badboys don't have a reputation for looking out for others. No they too busy looking out for self.
THUGS DON'T get real jobs. They rather shoot steal sell drugs, or try to get that ever elusive rap career rapping about.... what else?? Shooting stealing, and selling drugs!!!
THUGS usually aren't fathers to their children. They're too busy fucking the next female, and talking about how they don't love the bitches for that. Plus being a good father means having affection and these guys are to cool or too "Hard" for that. They got to keep it "Real" and "Street" you know.
There are exceptions to the rule... but they are just that... exceptions.
THUGS are BAD ROLE MODELS to their children. In other words they DON'T get real jobs! Instead, they sell drugs, commit crimes, go to jail, and talk and dress like complete imbeciles!!!
But this is who these females are having these out of wedlock kids with!!!!
When i was locked up many years ago, over 70% percent of black inmates came from a female headed homes. Also over 70% of black inmates didn't even have a damn high school diploma. On top of that over 70% of the black inmates who came in married to a black american woman left divorced. & & ANOTHER SAD STATS I Witness was that the black men who married white american women over 70 -80 % of them stayed married to them through out there bid! The black AMERICAN women wasn't even loyal!
Its like this I love my black AMERICAN women & I'm wise enough to NEVER SAY NEVER But more THAN LIKELY I WONT MARRY ONE & especially one that came from a single home! & If I do marry it probably be to a BLACK WOMAN OF ANOTHER COUNTRY, whose values are different than AMERICAN BLACK WOMEN.
The name of this thread should be single household American black women are destroying the black American community.
& to all you captains save ems .. You bitch niggas should know that as a man your word is your bond, whether its good or bad, & I as MAN I testify with the trueness in the op statements, BY just going to any hood, prison, & looking around.
You bitch ass niggas are ignorant & choose to ignore the blatant obvious LOGIC truTH & are simping 100 on a 98% male dominated porn board for some pussy. That SAD, DISGRACEFUL, & UNFORGIVABLE!
YOU ARE FOREVER TITLED %100 MANGINA SCUM! & Here Now FOREVER banned from the male species, & You all should be loaded up, castrated, forehead stamped as MANGINA, & dropped off into a fag tranny country or island such as FRANCE!
When i was locked up many years ago, over 70% percent of black inmates came from a female headed homes. Also over 70% of black inmates didn't even have a damn high school diploma. On top of that over 70% of the black inmates who came in married to a black american woman left divorced. & & ANOTHER SAD STATS I Witness was that the black men who married white american women over 70 -80 % of them stayed married to them through out there bid! The black AMERICAN women wasn't even loyal!
Its like this I love my black AMERICAN women & I'm wise enough to NEVER SAY NEVER But more THAN LIKELY I WONT MARRY ONE & especially one that came from a single home! & If I do marry it probably be to a BLACK WOMAN OF ANOTHER COUNTRY, whose values are different than AMERICAN BLACK WOMEN.
The name of this thread should be single household American black women are destroying the black American community.
& to all you captains save ems .. You bitch niggas should know that as a man your word is your bond, whether its good or bad, & I as MAN I testify with the trueness in the op statements, BY just going to any hood, prison, & looking around.
You bitch ass niggas are ignorant & choose to ignore the blatant obvious LOGIC truTH & are simping 100 on a 98% male dominated porn board for some pussy. That SAD, DISGRACEFUL, & UNFORGIVABLE!
YOU ARE FOREVER TITLED %100 MANGINA SCUM! & Here Now FOREVER banned from the male species, & You all should be loaded up, castrated, forehead stamped as MANGINA, & dropped off into a fag tranny country or island such as FRANCE!
Uh....very often. You really into giving niqqas sainthood?
You mean you start off by choosing the lowest common denominator (HS girls with children) and think you're proving a point? The majority of black pregnancies in this country, believe it or not, are NOT from mothers in high school. You talk about "how often does this shit happen" and then in turn, reference to something else as if it an often occurance on par with the MAJORITY of black women that have children after HS.
I don't know what to make of that statement.
Fuck what you read or think
This shit was mixed up a long time ago from slavery, to Jim Crow
and Section 8 living. Everyone is to blame but the system also
plays a major role. If you got kids and you aint married to the
other parent your a fuck up, man or woman. Not saying you cant
recover but your choice's are the issue not women or men.
Don't live with or knock up or become knocked up by anyone
unless your married. Not saying that all of them work but its
a better start if educated then married then kids. Thus stoping
the destruction of the black family.
STOP WITH THAT BULLSHIT SLAVERY EXCUSE
Your are what you eat sometimes
and niggas like U still eating chitterlings
Slave ass nigga brain dead ass nigga.
U ought to be tide to two horse's, tared and feathered, beaten,
in front of your wife and kids then pulled apart by the horse's.
I agree that black women are destroying the black community. However, black men are doing a damn good job at destroying it too.
A whole bunch of finger pointing and no solution. Sounds like black people to me.
I agree that black women are destroying the black community. However, black men are doing a damn good job at destroying it too.
A whole bunch of finger pointing and no solution. Sounds like black people to me.
You obviously didn't read through the thread. Your point has already been debunked.