A: I didn’t paint her as anything. I just shared the facts. You can (and did) draw your own conclusions.
B: How many “dudes”...sitting on their own couches at home does it take before one can be labeled a terrorist, racist, racially bias, etc? It apparently only took 1 (this time) to be labeled (and convicted as) a murderer.
C: What you believe about her is irrelevant. Skinhead or not, she is a, or at least sympathizes with, racists as evidenced by her actions on-line and communications otherwise. That FACT in light of her unreasonable actions (the man was in his home eating ice cream as he watched tv) on the night in question lends credence to the proposition that she was gunning for black folks. She didn’t get convicted of man slaughter or negligent homicide. She was convicted of murder...an intentional killing.
D: For us, and other folks who are not malicious, “there is no way you would just up and shoot a black dude”, but if you are a racist cop...chances are that you would...many have already. We all (should) know the names of the victims. What about those shootings tells cops that they can’t get away with doing that? The answer is...nothing.
In my opinion, where she went wrong is in overplaying her white/police privilege. An unarmed black guy in his own home sitting on the couch eating ice cream is apparently a bridge too far. From the cases we’ve seen from across the country, she might have had a chance to walk if anything else were different about those particular set of facts.
My question to you is, given the particular set of facts in this case, why are you so committed to come to her defense? Why is this the hill you want to die on?
She had a defense lawyer and was convicted of the murder of an innocent black man in part because her actions under the circumstances were so egregious, but also in part because the prosecution established that she was a racist (or at least harbored some racial bias or animus). This was the whole point of my post to which you replied.
Didn't Mohammed Noor shot a white woman....like in her pj's and get 12 years?
Not gonna lie, all them points were good points. The whole reason I'm in this thread is to get across that I don't think she just wanted to kill a black dude and thought this would be the best way to get away with it. The shit just doesn't seem logical to me. I am of an opinion that that social media shit is just more noise. Either way, she is going to jail and she lost her job. That's what I needed to happen. How is everything else not just noise? I think that answered your question.
Oh, and I'm concerned that her lawyers may try to get her out of this because if the murder conviction. I think that they should have gone with the voluntary manslaughter and then she would have gotten lead pipe convicted and probably would have gotten more time....but that's another thread.
The part we keep missing is that she purposely did not provide aid to Botham after she shot him. She was trained and was equipped to do so. So while people keep saying this was an accident, she surely didn’t do shit literally to try and save his life.
Valid point, but how was she equipped to help a dude she just shot? All police have is shit to put people down, not save them once they been shot. Now, she could have held the dude's hand and been apologizing for shooting him while he was just hanging out, but she didn't do that either.
Valid point, but how was she equipped to help a dude she just shot? All police have is shit to put people down, not save them once they been shot. Now, she could have held the dude's hand and been apologizing for shooting him while he was just hanging out, but she didn't do that either.
Why do you feel the need to make that particular point to the board? Seems like an answer in search of a question.The whole reason I'm in this thread is to get across that I don't think she just wanted to kill a black dude and thought this would be the best way to get away with it.
I'd say you're being naive if you think this will affect one white judge's thinking, next time they sentence one of us.
Read the entire link. Similar situations, same state I believe. Notice the difference in charges and reactions from law enforcement.Didn't Mohammed Noor shot a white woman....like in her pj's and get 12 years?
Dude said he loved her and didn’t want her to go to jail. There’s no excuse for this response, none of us are related to bruh but have more outrage than his god damn brother. That’s sickI don't care that much other than thinking it's weird
Other than that I try not to judge, because I can't imagine the pain they've experienced.
He's 19
I'm not religious
I'm annoyed with black people going at them over how they choose to deal with their pain. There's other issues people should be upset at than a grieving family of all things.
This case has been an emotional rollercoaster for most black people who have been following it from the beginning. So many highs and lows leading up to the trial and unfortunately with the murder of a witness, most will still be investing time in keeping up with new information as it comes.
As far as the name calling and condemnation of Botham's family. I think it is wrong and furthermore, I think it is very disrespectful. Dealing with the facts, the young man who decided to forgive the defendant was NOT speaking on behalf of the family, he was speaking solely for himself. He is Botham's brother, he has the right to feel how he feels.
And for all those who say I would have never done this or never said that, let's keep in mind that Botham's family didn't sign up for this exercise and we should all be praying that you or anyone you know will never have to go through this type of ordeal.
Is it understandable to be upset with the actions and words of the 18 year old younger brother? Sure it is, but, I can tell guarantee you that he has probably gone through and will continue to go through an array of emotions concerning this event and we should not place judgment on a young man who is clearly still trying to free his spirit and mind from this horrible ordeal.
How many of you would like to be judged by something you said or did at 18 years old?
Inmate Information Details
SID Number: 13546830
TDCJ Number: 02283505
Name: GUYGER,AMBER RENEE
Race: W
Gender: F
Age: 36
Maximum Sentence Date: 2029-09-29
Current Facility: Patrick L. O'Daniel
Projected Release Date: 2029-09-29
Parole Eligibility Date: 2024-09-29
Inmate Visitation Eligible: YES
All black men are judged..from the day of inception...brah
Plus the Dateline interview where her eyes will be red from crying the whole timeAnd she'll come out and write a book about it and get rich because whites reward other whites for killing black people.
If I were a Prison CO I’d make this bitch eat ass before her mealtime. You want that meatloaf bitch? You have to eat Gertrude’s ass first hoBitch thought she was going to be eating steak and lobster by Saturday.
Nope!! Back to bologna and moldy green jello bitch!