Those tv contracts still popping. Dodgers have a 8.25 billion dollar deal with Time Warner for 25yrs. Phillies have a 2.5 billion dollar deal from Comcast Sportsnet. Yankees raked in 135 million alone from cable money. That's how.
Can The WNBA Be Improved Financially? Is this what you wanted.
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Baseball is trending down but its still the 3rd biggest sport in the world by economic standards behind only Soccer and football
I agree with you but may I add and I know it might sound petty but they need to change the color of the basketball back to all orange as when they played in college.
I can watch a women's NCAA basketball game in it's entirety but when it comes to a WNBA game I can only watch 10 minutes or less of action before changing the channel.
Perception wise and I speak for myself, It's something about that multicolored basketball that makes their game play look gimicky, and exhibition level akin to th Globetrotters. Even though I know these ladies can ball, I just can't take their game seriously.
I also think the league should lower their the rims by 1 inch so that spectators can see some posterizing dunks that will hype the fans and spectators.
No one thought it would be on par with the NBA just like they don't think women's college basketball is on par with mean's college basketball.
The men are superior athletes genetically so it'll always be different.
I know women dunking won't do anything, but that's one of the first excuses men state as the reason they don't like it.
And once they see women dunking, then they have no response.
Bottom line, we don't know what'll make it appeal to the masses. Manly women in bikinis ain't gonna do it and neither is women dunking.
Bitch... No need to name call.
You spelled out bullshit but you think it was an intelligent response. We were having a simple conversation and you had to go full faggit and that wasn't necessary. You started out mild faggit and then went full.
It's ok not to like women's basketball just like it's ok not to like any sport. Your post to make it "Make a marketable product" was dunce level foolishness so I replied.
Those same women play the same brand of basketball overseas and make millions so it's not the product.
Remember you wanted this tone.
Another thing I will say about the WNBA is that they WNBA don't have a player that I truly want to watch play.
There's lots of good players but no one player that I make a point to watch.
I can't think of one player that truly draws viewers and that's another issue.
With that said, the NBA has great players but there's also a handful that I like to watch play.
Steph, Ja, KD and a few others.
There's lots of good players but no one player that I make a point to watch.
I can't think of one player that truly draws viewers and that's another issue.
With that said, the NBA has great players but there's also a handful that I like to watch play.
Steph, Ja, KD and a few others.
Is Women’s Tennis More Popular Than Men’s Tennis?
- ZACKARY
- FEBRUARY 19, 2022
- TENNIS FACTS
ESPN highlighted that more than 3.4 million viewers watched the game between Emma Raducanu and Leylah Fernandez at the US Open final of 2021 during prime time. The women’s viewership was 33% higher than the men’s final, which recorded a 2.7 million peak during game hours.
Surprisingly, it is not the first time the US Open women’s games had more viewers than men’s. A similar pattern was recorded in 2019, where the bar was balanced with a slight shift towards the females.
With the recent rise in the popularity of feminine sports, it will be interesting to see which gender comes out on top. So, can we consider that women’s tennis is more popular than men’s tennis according to these statistics?
Viewership numbers are a good indicator of whether male or female tennis is more popular. It suggests the total number of interested people in the matches.
In the United States of America, women’s tennis has clearly more viewers and more interest on social media. Thus, it is more popular. The Williams sisters played a big role in growing women’s tennis fandom to what it is nowadays.
https://www.tennispassionate.com/is-women-tennis-more-popular/
Well dummy....if it ain't the product you're selling, what is it homo? You're dumb ass is trying to add complexity where there is none. If People don't like the product they ain't buying it.
Faggot.
See what happens when you start with a marketable product.
As I said earlier in this thread, soccer's the number 1 sport in the world but American's as a whole don't give a shit about it.
It has nothing to do with the product.
Lastly, I could literally insult you much better and more efficient that you're attempting to insult me. But I'm not in the mood.
I called you a bitch, I stated that you entered the conversation mid-faggit but eventually flamed out and went full-faggit. I think we established that "Dummy and faggot" aren't really good enough insults deserving of responses because you aren't that good at this.
But yes you're correct, if people don't like the product they're not buying. But that doesn't always make the product not good.
Lol..Just go stand in the corner
Don't care how you frame it. Nobody's going to watch that shit. Not because it's not marketed correctly but because it sucks ... Unmarketable..lol
Plus some MLB teams can average 25k per game, and they kill you with food, parking, and beer. That's not counting revenue from TV and stadium naming money.
First of all, fans have been programmed to think one-on-one, high-flying feats of derring-do are what basketball is about. It is not.
NBA players in the main are superbly gifted athletes who do amazing things in the air but to someone like me who remembers the beauty of the Holtzman Knicks it's boring AF. One or two superstars take over the game and everybody else basically stands around and watches.
The beautiful passing, cutting, and backdoor plays are missing because the NBA has become so athletic-biased. THAT is where the WNBA made their big mistake. The women started to try and play like men and they just look horrible doing it.
They've started to get back to fundamental ball now and the product is much better. There is no team as beautiful to watch than the UConn women when they're in full flow. Just gorgeous, like a ballet. And that's how basketball really should be played. If they stick to that they may have a chance.
Better marketing would help too.
NBA players in the main are superbly gifted athletes who do amazing things in the air but to someone like me who remembers the beauty of the Holtzman Knicks it's boring AF. One or two superstars take over the game and everybody else basically stands around and watches.
The beautiful passing, cutting, and backdoor plays are missing because the NBA has become so athletic-biased. THAT is where the WNBA made their big mistake. The women started to try and play like men and they just look horrible doing it.
They've started to get back to fundamental ball now and the product is much better. There is no team as beautiful to watch than the UConn women when they're in full flow. Just gorgeous, like a ballet. And that's how basketball really should be played. If they stick to that they may have a chance.
Better marketing would help too.
I can’t even watch men’s college basketball, there’s no way in hell I’ll be able to stomach a wnba game
Serena pretty much change the pay grade.. that’s why she the goat female tennis player
Are they paying the women better or just the top elite 2 or 3 in the sport??
Football is over baseball? That surprises me. Football's regular season is 17 games and baseball is 162 games. Even if the average attendance for football is higher, 172 games to 17 brings in way more money.
Soccer doesn't come close in yhe USA. Accept for the national teams. The women fought for equal pay and got it. They're much better than the men's team. Maybe that's why.
If I remember correctly whenever they in them shits like us open, Wimbledon, French open, etc they get same pay… you don’t have to be top 3 in order to make those tournaments
Superbowl is the most watched us sport event.. that alone brings in a shitload of money
Yeah the NFL is such a behemoth that even tho the CFL, USFL, XFL etc. all generate very little revenue Football still generates more global revenue than Baseball and that's with Baseball having MLB thats at about $11 bil revenue a yr, NPB that's over $1bil revenue a yr, and KBO that's aroun $400mil revenue a yr. Soccer is the only 1 that generates more globally because they have so many leagues over $1 bil revenue including 6 of them at multibillion per yr
I hate college basketball
only 1 or 2 players are good on a team. That's trash basketball. and all those sorry ass white boys taking charges and playing zone lol
Back in the day I would watch for Dawn Staley, or Mya Moore.
If women support it like they do everything else they market toward women then yes
Simple
Lifetime and vh1 worth billions
Hair care industry makeup industry
Worth billions
Not enough women support it.
Simple
Lifetime and vh1 worth billions
Hair care industry makeup industry
Worth billions
Not enough women support it.
you think women support the NBA (or any major league sports) because they care about Lebron James stats????
I would say that there are 4 categories/types of women who support men's sport.
THEY GENUINELY LIKE THE SPORT & ATHLETECISM - 30%
THEY MAINLY LIKE TO SEE WELL BUILT MEN IN FORM FITTING UNIFORMS SWEATING IT UP - 25%
A BONDING THING WITH THE MAN IN THEIR LIVES (she's watching and going to the games because YOU love it) - 40%
(ATTENDING GAMES) TO SEE AND BE SEEN (treating it like any happening in their town) - 10%
And mind you any packed stadium for any event is over 50% female attended much of the time.
out of 100 women supporting a sport what percentage do you think fits a category?
They don't do the same thing for women's basketball because the same motivators aren't there.
So
Like I said
They need to support the sport if they want the same financial gains
If they don't even care about it really and seeing it themselves it's totally on brand to blame men for the lack of revenue and everything else.
So take the genuine athleticism people and like to be seen and go to the WNBA games
Literally nothing is stopping them from spending their own dollars on this shit
No matter how we try to twist it people pay for what they want to see
And if ppl don't want to pay don't blame someone just cause you can or feel the need to it's trash
Some people do think they're supposed to be on par with or somewhere in the vicinity of on par with the NBA. If not then they wouldn't be using the term pay disparity or say things like the game is just as good as the NBA. I think fine ass Cari Champion said that in an interview with fine ass Candace Parker(lez or not, lol).
I just think that they need to lower their pay expectations here in the states for now, and gut it out... be like the CBA and take the audiences that they can get and the money that they can get. They have a head start because of their origin (the NBA connection) so they will have more tv coverage than the CBA ever had.... and the CBA lasted 50 plus years. Maybe the WNBA can have a better final outcome. The outfits and all.... eh, yeah I don't thiplaying in bikinis will help either because there are a whole lot of women in that league that I don't want to see in bikinis.
Then there's the lesbian thing. Got no problem with people's sexuality as long as it ain't hurting nobody... but from a marketing standpoint... it hurts them. I have no doubt that there are quite a few gay players in the NBA, but as far as I know, only one has come out a few years back while actually in the league, and he was a journeyman. Having so many female players out just isn't gonna help with the hetero audience. If 60% of the NBA was out gay guys, I'm pretty sure the league would not be as popular as it is... that's just the way it is. WNBA is no different. They have to figure out how to make it work better for them, or figure out a way to have it not work against them as much as it does.
I just think that they need to lower their pay expectations here in the states for now, and gut it out... be like the CBA and take the audiences that they can get and the money that they can get. They have a head start because of their origin (the NBA connection) so they will have more tv coverage than the CBA ever had.... and the CBA lasted 50 plus years. Maybe the WNBA can have a better final outcome. The outfits and all.... eh, yeah I don't thiplaying in bikinis will help either because there are a whole lot of women in that league that I don't want to see in bikinis.
Then there's the lesbian thing. Got no problem with people's sexuality as long as it ain't hurting nobody... but from a marketing standpoint... it hurts them. I have no doubt that there are quite a few gay players in the NBA, but as far as I know, only one has come out a few years back while actually in the league, and he was a journeyman. Having so many female players out just isn't gonna help with the hetero audience. If 60% of the NBA was out gay guys, I'm pretty sure the league would not be as popular as it is... that's just the way it is. WNBA is no different. They have to figure out how to make it work better for them, or figure out a way to have it not work against them as much as it does.
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I don't think its the lesbian thing so much as the butch thing.
yeah but speaking group to group....women love and support mens shit (generally speaking) but men don't reciprocate....you see the same dynamic in race...blacks love and support white shit (again generally speaking) but whites don't reciprocate. Its the reason why a show like Friends is universally loved and known yet Living Single is just black famous. Its the same thing happening when a "classic" white show gets rebooted and its promoted as must watch TV but a classic black show doesn't get that level of promotion or support across the board.
And you see blacks and other POC constantly complaining about pay and resource inequity... much of it stems from lack of mainstream audience (white) support.
And that really boils down to cultural/racial bias against things that don't reflect whites. Its the "I can't relate" argument....yet no one says that about white shit. Why the fuck are nonwhite people watching/loving/supporting shows that have NOTHING to do with them in any way... Game of Thrones, and Sopranos, for example...but The Wire while highly acclaimed wasn't highly rated at all...in fact the shows highest rated season was season 3 when the story revolved around the docks and the cast that season was mostly white...the second it went back to the streets and a mostly black cast the ratings dropped...whites tuned out. What was the difference considering the show had everything people CLAIMED to love about police procedural shows and gritty dramas??
Same thing with sports... men love sports and they love basketball and football yet when women play them they tune out. Even the guys who fall into a depression when the season is over ignore the WNBA and LFL and have done so since the beginning. I'm not saying some reasons stated aren't legit but I am saying that there IS a basic bias against regardless.
If they dressed sexy I'd watch.....they dress sexy in LFL
If they were athletic I'd watch....they hit hard and play hard in LFL
If the made it easy to find I'd watch...LFL started out on MTV2 basic cable and whole games are available on youtube today
If you can bet on the games id watch...LFL has a sports betting line
And you know what dude....I'm STILL waiting for you to state your assessment of the games I posted for your review...
But rather than say you have a basic CULTURAL GENDER BIAS against women playing certain sports...you'd rather dance around and avoid it because its an ugly thing to say out loud...just like whites have a CULTURAL RACIAL BIAS against most shows and movies because it doesn't reflect them but they won't say it because it sounds profoundly racist and if theres one thing we KNOW about whites...they don't mind doing racist shit but HATE being called on it
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