Cause your average rapper and their fans are really Em's audience. If it weren't for Jennie, Colin, Katie etc your favorite rapper would be working in the cubical next door to u.
Eminem BET Cypher Freestyle on Trump
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Cause your average rapper and their fans are really Em's audience. If it weren't for Jennie, Colin, Katie etc your favorite rapper would be working in the cubical next door to u.
Realistically speaking, no one would give a shit if Jay z or any other rapper spoke out about trump nor would it get the attention. They’re Black, they’re not expected to like or support trump. They’d just be beating a dead horse.
Eminem being white is the reason it’s getting the attention it’s getting.
Eminem is rich as fuck most rappers aren't. He ain't got shit to lose.
Not as “Lyrical” but sends a message and sets the tone
Eminem does it and he’s the “Greatest”.
He spoke..what have you done APOPHIS? Right now, You’re sounding like another “member” that claimed he did more for communities than NFL players and got School mentorships organizations around the country.
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That's the point of white allies. White folks dismiss all black complaints as playing the race card, but they don't ignore their own, and with as much influence as Em has/had it sparks a discussion.
If he hadn't said anything you'd have these same people claiming he used our community for a come up, and then didn't support us. These are often the same people who also don't want to stand by Native Americans, Muslims, Mexicans or Puerto Ricans, saying they need to fight their own battles and then when it comes down to it, can even find reason to disqualify supporting black folks. If all they are doing is sitting on social media criticizing people actually in the fight, they can keep that BS commentary and keep it moving.
Agreed
E fucking xactly!!! I don’t get muthafuckas man. Can’t have it both ways.
As much I wanted to think it was wack, I couldn't do it. He 8 miled Trump.
Well beyond that. You can’t say shit if you haven’t put skin in the game. That’s what people do...
Criticize from the couch!
AND told his fans to fuck off if they support Trump. He told them I don't need your money.
I wonder if Kid Rock will come out with some sad attempt at a pro-drumpf reply 
Here we go with this "sparked a discussion" bullshit...the discussion has been happening for years, the problem is that there's no policy changes or action that follow the discussion.
How is Eminem dropping bars about Trump placing him "in the fight"? Nothing will change for Eminem after this, he won't get Kaep'd, if anything, he will get more props from niggas with the white savior complex...the same niggas that can't wait until Tom Brady acknowledges the 'discussion' so they can give him super props
Bruh, pump your breaks.
I commend him speaking on a very important topic whereby others say nothing despite their platform. You dont know me personally nor have knowledge of what I have done for my community. Trust me when I say I'm out on the frontlines reppin' as well as building financially for myself and the Black community. My name could be Googled and my stats will come up. You ain't gettin' it. That being said, the rap was still fucking wack!
Quit hating on slim and hold these mumble rap fucks feet to the fire. They are the ones the youth listen to.
Bingo. I dunno why everyone thinks ANYONE simply talking or rapping about some shit accomplishes any more than record sales.
Anyone who has a voice that can sway opinions is valuable right now. A sad, sorry fact of life is that white folks dismiss any minority fighting for a cause that has a race component that doesn't affect them. As soon as they hear "it's because I'm black" they not only tune out, they become hostile toward the message. The only thing that convinces SOME of them is first hand personal experience or undeniable proof such as a video. To acknowledge a certain type of evil exists might put them in the position of having to do something, and most don't want that responsibility.
The other thing that convinces them, is having someone champion a cause who doesn't have any skin in the game, meaning another white person. That is why we say white folks need to talk to their own people. They immediately shut down hearing it from the minority affected. They also are getting to the point that they shut down hearing from known whites activists, chaulk up their involvement to white guilt, and activists and minorities wanting them to carry it. Em will be effective, short term anyway, because he is the hero and poster child of angry white guys. It came out of the blue, and therefore has some shock value. This is even getting coverage in other countries, thanks to social media.
I'm not saying to kiss Em's ass, but his actions were effective, is keeping the discussion alive for another week, the narrative is this time being driven by someone on "our side", and is overriding that BS narrative Pence was able to get in the headlines last week. So what's the problem?
I'm on my phone so I'm not posting the text but CNN trying to break down some of the lyrics that didn't need explanation was funny to me.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/polit...m-donald-trump-bet-hip-hop-awards0739AMVODtop
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/polit...m-donald-trump-bet-hip-hop-awards0739AMVODtop
I wish the fuck Kid Rock would even comment on it. He would have to go full redneck if he crosses Em because he would get destroyed.I wonder if Kid Rock will come out with some sad attempt at a pro-drumpf reply
I respect this, my point is that this will enter and leave the news cycle within a week or two and the only winner will be Eminem, he will have more cred from niggas, and the losers will be us again because symbolism doesn't equate to tangible and necessary change.
The powers that are don't give a damn about an eminem freestyle on a white-owned "black" network, hell, Eminem could have freestyle a Malcolm X speech from the 1960s and got the same message across, which speaks to how long the discussion has been in consciousness of this country.
they probably scared they may lost their rap contract.
Am I the only one disturbed that a famous white rapper has to do this to wake up our community?
I didn't see this thread yesterday!
Without reading any of the thread yet, all I can say is DAMN!!!!
He dropped that shit with great passion!!
I GOT FUCKING GOOSEBUMPS!!
Props to Em!
Without reading any of the thread yet, all I can say is DAMN!!!!
He dropped that shit with great passion!!
I GOT FUCKING GOOSEBUMPS!!
Props to Em!
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Niggaz stay crowning white people for saying the obvious.
Black rappers been dissing him....
Nice shit, gotta give Eminem props, real kids spit that shit.
I agree the powers that be don't, however the goal is to affect the mindshare of people who influence the powers that be.
I've said this before that black folks need white allies. How many judges are black? How many prosecutors? How many jury members? The people deciding whether or not black people see justice in this country aren't black. The people deciding whether or not a police officer goes to jail are rarely black. We are 13% of the population. Nothing we accomplish by voting is achieved by black folks alone.
We need allies in a positions of power we don't hold. We are not totally powerless, but most of that power, at least historically, has been exercised in influencing white people to influence other white people to do the right thing. Like Chris Rock said when Obama was elected, we've always had qualified black folks, we were just reaching the point where white folks accept that.
"To say Obama is progress is saying that he's the first black person that is qualified to be president. That's not black progress. That's white progress. There's been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years.
If you saw Tina Turner and Ike having a lovely breakfast over there, would you say their relationship's improved? Some people would. But a smart person would go, "Oh, he stopped punching her in the face." It's not up to her. Ike and Tina Turner's relationship has nothing to do with Tina Turner. Nothing. It just doesn't.
The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Let's hope America keeps producing nicer white people."
The only community that's "Awake" now is the white community because now they know one of their own feels like Black people.
They are discussing this on MSNBC right now with Fat Joe, Talib Kaweli, and Bill Kristol. Not only is this allowing them to be seen outside the rap genre and speak intelligently on social issues, it is also promoting charities they are involved in as well.
I agree with everything you said but lets think about social reach and all time records sales, as far as black rappers Jay-Z is the only one who could have spit sumthing like that and shake up the world, the other two rappers that could have are dead. Nas and Common are both great it would have been trending but there are only 5 rappers dead or alive that could have made THAT much of an impact.