Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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Sansa: "What if there is someone else, someone better?"
*off-screen revelation to Tyrion*
Later, Tyrion to Varys: "Ain't that some shit?"
I think some of you dudes be all in your phone while watching and just miss these super simple cues.
Its because of all the stupid cut scene, They cut the scene where Bran told Arya and Sansa, and when Sansa told Tyrion. Why the fuck would we not want to see Sansa's Grinch smile when she finds out Jon the the true heir to the Thrown?
It is very obvious she told him, Tyrion then told Varys and they were discussing it on the ship
I just did and they seem to suggest off-screen that Sansa told Tyrion.
Eitherway, Sansa ain't shit!
Swearing to keep secrets is supposed to be a big deal amongst their peopel and especially those that carry the name "Stark"
I honestly still don't get why she keeps on trying to shit on Dani.
It's only like she's intentionally trying to keep Cersei in charge.
He literally said to Varys that she told him about Jon lineage.
Give me the time stamp. I watched the scene over and i didn't hear it at all. He didn't say that!
Start at the 52 minute mark. Tyrion and Varys is discussing, in passing Roberts rebbellion about the lie. Then transition about how many people will know about Jon's lineage. Then they discuss, who would rather follow Jon.
Take Dany pussy out your mouth and maybe you’ll understand.
So where in that conversation did Tyrion say "Sansa told me..."?
BTW, I'm not disputing that she told him..It seems obvious that she did.
I'm just point out he didn't flat out say "Sansa told me..."
Did he say Sansa explicitly told him no. He didn't have to. It was all in the information he relayed to Varys.
Lol please spell it out for everyone cause its a debate on all GoT online forums.
Why has Sansa decided that Dany was her enemy from jump?
Why is she betraying Jon?
She told him and it was obvious. They just didn't want to have to tell the story all over again, which is why when Bran was about to tell it, they cut the scene. It's obvious.
She's a woman. She feels threatened and jealous.
Completely different from Tyrion told Varies that "Sansa told me..." Where that line of dialogue doesn't exist.
Meh! Mute point at this stage. The secret is pretty much out.
That's not the discussion!
The OP said there is actually a line stating "She told me..."
That's a lie. There isn't a line that says that.
Sansa trusts no new person at this point. Trust must be earned. Before the battle of winterfell Dany comes to speak to Sansa to defuse tensions and Sansa tells her about the north’s ways and you see Dany recoils. Dany is not serious about defusing. She sees any resolve against her as non negotiable. She literally pulls her hand away from Sansa at that point. That’s one clue the show gave you. At the tactics table she ignores Sansa and speaks as if Sansa is ungrateful. Later we see that Sansa was right about resting. There are other clues about Dany’s true ways. She is not the change in leadership the 7 kingdoms need. She is more of the same. Sansa sees that Dany is more of the same bullshit.
product placement...starbucks paid big money 4 that...
She is helping Jon. Same way Varys will do things against Dany now for the realm. Jon is the better option for the 7 kingdoms. Where you see betrayal Sansa sees the benefit of telling Tyrion about jon’s true lineage.
product placement...starbucks paid big money 4 that...
Just goes to the point that they've rushed everything about this season. I don't even get that considering they took a full year off from season 7 to season 8 and it's the least amount of episodes in the entire series. Starbucks cup on the table? Quality has gone to shit!
They've made the ballistas too powerful and the dragons too weak.
The ballistas seem to be the most powerful weapon in the GOT universe.
Its confusing cause Cersei could have taken out Dany and her last remaining dragon at the end with no problem based on how they are portrayed so far.
1. Sansa doesnt speak for the North. Jon did, because he was king. The fact that Sansa doesnt agree with Jon doesnt give her any authority in the matter. Sansa cannot make demands for the North.
2. Sansa hated Dany the moment she saw her. Before all that stuff you wrote. Literally the first meeting they had in front of all the Northern Lords, Sansa was talking shit about Dany and her armies. At that point Im not sure what Dany had done to deserve that. Can you tell me?
3. Yes Sansa is ungrateful. She tells Tyrion she couldnt be with him cause he is loyal to Dany. Literally while Dany is up there putting her life on the line for the North. Thats not the show giving you a clue, thats the show blatantly telling you she is nothing but ungrateful.
4. You mentioned that Dany went to Sansa to defuse tensions. You see thats the difference here, Sansa made no such move. In fact she did the opposite.
Shit was wasted time in my opinion. And were only getting 70 minute episodes. I think things would have evened out if the episodes were completely 2 hours. Outside the after episode commentary.
Sansa has grown a 6th sense and can read into peoples personality and intentions. She has dealt closely with the worse of the worse: Joffrey, Cersei, Ramsey, and Little Finger. Unlike Jon and Tyrion she can see Dany for who she really is.
Varys is not loyal to Dany.
Sansa was supposed to be loyal to Jon.
I dont know if you read the books, but listen, for the Starks swearing under the weirwood trees (spelling), means everything to them. Thats like swearing in front of God to them.
Me saying Sansa betrayed Jon is a matter of fact.
You say she is helping Jon but all this has been about herself and her feelings towards Dany. She doesnt have Jon's interest in mind at all.
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The show's not over yet. Looks like you may be right tho.
My point about scenes like that is it is lazy writing. They don't know how to write a scene like that so they use the "cut to the next scene troupe".
Excerpts from TIME:
Perhaps in an effort to even the playing field between the Dragon Queen and Cersei, the showrunners have depleted her military forces, taken out another one of her dragons, killed two of her closest advisors and prompted another two to scheme against her. This could result in a heroic comeback for Daenerys: She thrives when she’s at her lowest, like when she first emerged from that fire with her dragons or when she burned all the Khals holding her captive.
Arya and Sansa in particular seem determined to make a villain of the Dragon Queen. Daenerys has thus far refused to allow the North to rule itself — which would involve breaking with longstanding tradition and set a dangerous precedent in Westeros for any other kingdom that sought independence. But the rift between the Stark sisters and Daenerys has some fans theorizing that Arya will take out Daenerys, fulfilling the Red Woman’s prophecy that she would close brown, green and blue eyes. (What color are Daenerys’ eyes? You guessed it: green.)
In order to keep the parallel plot lines going, the show presented Daenerys as an unabashed hero for seven seasons. She and Jon proved the most popular heroes to cheer for — not only because they cheated death but because they spent time with those who weren’t like them and learned to understand them. They saved the exiled and enslaved. Now, with just a few episodes left, the writers are determined to tear her down.
What has always been so arresting about Game of Thrones is its ability to subvert the tropes of fantasy and genre. It’s rare that someone on the show (or the Song of Ice and Fire books) has ever been truly good or evil. But the final episodes seem to have simplified historically complicated characters: Men like Theon and Jaime have been redeemed; Jon Snow looks to be the obvious choice for a selfless king; and now Daenerys and Cersei are prepared to kill one another — and thousands in the process — in their hunt for power.
Perhaps in an effort to even the playing field between the Dragon Queen and Cersei, the showrunners have depleted her military forces, taken out another one of her dragons, killed two of her closest advisors and prompted another two to scheme against her. This could result in a heroic comeback for Daenerys: She thrives when she’s at her lowest, like when she first emerged from that fire with her dragons or when she burned all the Khals holding her captive.
Arya and Sansa in particular seem determined to make a villain of the Dragon Queen. Daenerys has thus far refused to allow the North to rule itself — which would involve breaking with longstanding tradition and set a dangerous precedent in Westeros for any other kingdom that sought independence. But the rift between the Stark sisters and Daenerys has some fans theorizing that Arya will take out Daenerys, fulfilling the Red Woman’s prophecy that she would close brown, green and blue eyes. (What color are Daenerys’ eyes? You guessed it: green.)
In order to keep the parallel plot lines going, the show presented Daenerys as an unabashed hero for seven seasons. She and Jon proved the most popular heroes to cheer for — not only because they cheated death but because they spent time with those who weren’t like them and learned to understand them. They saved the exiled and enslaved. Now, with just a few episodes left, the writers are determined to tear her down.
What has always been so arresting about Game of Thrones is its ability to subvert the tropes of fantasy and genre. It’s rare that someone on the show (or the Song of Ice and Fire books) has ever been truly good or evil. But the final episodes seem to have simplified historically complicated characters: Men like Theon and Jaime have been redeemed; Jon Snow looks to be the obvious choice for a selfless king; and now Daenerys and Cersei are prepared to kill one another — and thousands in the process — in their hunt for power.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...RR-Martin-reveals-FIVE-shows-development.html
By Jason Chester for MailOnline
Published: 05:01 EDT, 6 May 2019 | Updated: 05:23 EDT, 6 May 2019
The final season of Game Of Thrones is almost at an end, but fans of the long-running fantasy saga can take heart from the promise of five new spin-off shows.
By Jason Chester for MailOnline
Published: 05:01 EDT, 6 May 2019 | Updated: 05:23 EDT, 6 May 2019
The final season of Game Of Thrones is almost at an end, but fans of the long-running fantasy saga can take heart from the promise of five new spin-off shows.
Thank you!!!
That's why i didn't automatically assume it was Sansa that told Tyrion.
My understanding is their word(see Ned Stark) is bond.
It's one of the things that really define their name and family.
Hell even Cersei knew that when she said something to the effect "I know Ned Starks son will keep his word..."
At this stage can anyone say Sansa wouldn't do anything or betray anyone to get what she wants?
LOL
The Night King would have burned down the castle and everyone inside and around the castle, including Bran if not for the Blood Riders, Unsullied, and Jon running interference on Rheagel to prevent the Night King from burning down the castle of Winterfell.
The North alone only had about 10 thousand troops and would have been swamped by an undead army of over 100 thousand and the Night King then swooping in on Viserion to reduce "hunkered down" army and Winterfell to ashes then heading further south with a an even more swollen undead horde.
Yes she most certainly has GOT to die..
i almost started to do the "Cuba Gooding air box from Boyz N The Hood" bit while mumbling Cersei's name
I apologize to everyone sincerely
They have mailed it in. They give zero fucks about this season
Look what was left in the fucking show.
A MOTHERFUCKING STARBUCKS COFFEE CUP
Would be funny as hell if the finale is on some Time Bandits-type shit:
-Tyrion rolls up in a M1 Abrams tank
-Jon becomes Salen Koch(Kit Harrington's character in CoD Infinite Warfare)
-Sansa gets Dark Phoenix powers
-Brienne appears wearing chrome Stormtrooper armor
-Tormund and a Delta Force team charge in on some Strike Back shit(Tormund:"MOVE,MOVE,MOVE!!!" )
1. She is doing things for the greater good. Just like Varys doing things for the realm BEHIND THE SCENES. She does things behind the scenes due to her interactions with little finger. She isn’t selfish. She sees worse will happen with Dany in charge.
2. Hate or mistrust? After all she is new and known to have dragons. She also is known to be a conqueror.
3. This is after Dany shows her true colours of being power hungry when she came to “defuse” tension. Tyrion can’t come to terms with Dany not being the one. Sansa can’t be with someone who is willing to endanger her family or the north by blindly supporting Dany.
4. “Defuse” is what I should have said. By the end of that scene we see that Dany is not really about defusing. She is about absolute power. Dany’s talk is cheap when you get into the subtle details.
i think they are saving that for something