Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?

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I don't like Dany. However why is the North against her? She did everything everyone asked of her and helped the North.
She lost 1/2 her forces helping them and those ungrateful bitches still don't trust her? She has done nothing but be trustworthy.
 

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I don't like Dany. However why is the North against her? She did everything everyone asked of her and helped the North.
She lost 1/2 her forces helping them and those ungrateful bitches still don't trust her? She has done nothing but be trustworthy.

It honestly doesn't really make much sense. Hell you would think she's worshipped as a hero at this point.
Sansa is cold as ice. If she really cared about her people as much as she pretends then how
do you not give the person that just help saved the entire North some level of respect? Props?
What's funny is how Sansa and some on the board want to bypass what Dany did.
Could Arya have iced the NK if Dany and her forces didn't come to the north?
 
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But both of them know that he is the rightful heir.....but she still wants to be the queen even if its a lie.....

I guess that s ok..........Got it.

It don't matter to me which side has a claim. Whoever fights and wins for it should it. The Iron Throne does not just get handed out.
Jon does not even want the North.
 

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It don't matter to me which side has a claim. Whoever fights and wins for it should it. The Iron Throne does not just get handed out.
Jon does not even want the North.

Hell i'm starting to understand why Jon doesn't want any of it.
Those people are some ungrateful MKers that will turn on you in a second.
He came back with an army to save the ingrates and they damn near wanted to kick him outside.
No thank you from any of them...savage!
 

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I don't think he was naive it's reasonable to expect his brother and sister to keep a secret his brother already has and his best friend has

I could see if he was like hey tormund guess what but also dont say shit

Then I'd be like Jon come on dude

I hear you but Dany did tell him so.

Jon probably been too focused on the bigger picture to realize who Sansa has become.
 

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I think Jaime kills Cersei. Jon ends up being King. Mountain kills the Hound. Arya kills the mountain. Dany dies. Varys dies. That’s all I got.

That's wild but I got wilder.
Arya hooks up with the Hound and they go forth to sever the 7 kingdoms in a bout of anarchy after Cersei, Kalesi and Jon die fighting.

Varys in the final and flashback scene telling his little birds about the once kingdom and how the realm was saved with a new form of governing ( people rule)
thanks to Arya + Hound.
 

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Jon is smart. To be a King invites challenge. Remember after a while Robert didn't want to be King either.
It is interesting that the women of this show are some of the most power driven people in the Kingdom!

All the real men want to do is drink and fuck and chill.

Sansa is a lot like her mother. She was very hate filled and impulsive. She always started shit and had to get other people to help her out of trouble.

Hell i'm starting to understand why Jon doesn't want any of it.
Those people are some ungrateful MKers that will turn on you in a second.
He came back with an army to save the ingrates and they damn near wanted to kick him outside.
No thank you from any of them...savage!
 

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Jon Snow is the dumbest leading character in all of history though. You guys have to admit it.
 

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I hear you but Dany did tell him so.

Jon probably been too focused on the bigger picture to realize who Sansa has become.

Same for Dany and for Sansa
Same as ned was

I truly believe the only reason he told them is the same reason he let ghost go to paradise

He don't know if he'll ever see them so he didn't want to leave things left unsaid

Remember he's died lol so since then he's not ever holding back
 

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Dragon fire is different than man fire
Man fire the dudes be burning up ahhhh it burns

Dragon fire is instant Ash it's a higher temp

Sort of like well we used a sword to kill them and it ain't work

When yea well did you use that valeryian steel or dragon glass?

Yeah... but the wights wouldn’t even go near fire. He literally cooled down the fire by walking in. He’s their superior so it’s easy to imply that his threshold is much higher.
 

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Jon is smart. To be a King invites challenge. Remember after a while Robert didn't want to be King either.
It is interesting that the women of this show are some of the most power driven people in the Kingdom!

All the real men want to do is drink and fuck and chill.

Sansa is a lot like her mother. She was very hate filled and impulsive. She always started shit and had to get other people to help her out of trouble.

I hear your point. Sansa's challenging to just lump into a defined box.
She went through hell and I can't blame her.
To go from Jeffrey and all that bullshit and end up with Ramsey? FUckkkkk!
That would make anyone(who survives) never the same again.
 

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You are right. When I say dumb. I misspoke. I meant like retarded and boring and wack!

He needs to go North of the wall and be a herder of polar bears or some shit like that. He wants nothing to do with anything happening and it is annoying.

Jon is more so naive than dumb.
 

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Jon Snow is the dumbest leading character in all of history though. You guys have to admit it.

Jons not dumb man.
He just has an idealistic way of how he views the world and people.
He's very much is Ned Starks son.

It's clearly a quality that can be taken advantage of I've we seen.
But it's also one of those qualities that buys him true love and relationships as we've seen as well. BTW, Which i find even more impressive if you think about the world they live in.

When even someone like Cersei say's "She can take Ned Stark's sons word..." that really telling in their world.
 
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I don't like Dany. However why is the North against her? She did everything everyone asked of her and helped the North.
She lost 1/2 her forces helping them and those ungrateful bitches still don't trust her? She has done nothing but be trustworthy.

She lost a dragon, half the Unsullied, almost all the Dothraki, and her most loyal advisor. If it wasnt for her they would almost all be dead.

Its amazing to me how cool GoT fans are with Sansa's ungratefulness.
 

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It honestly doesn't really make much sense. Hell you would think she's worshipped as a hero at this point.
Sansa is cold as ice. If she really cared about her people as much as she pretends then how
do you not give the person that just help saved the entire North some level of respect? Props?
What's funny is how Sansa and some on the board want to bypass what Dany did.
Could Arya have iced the NK if Dany and her forces didn't come to the north?

Sansa would rather Dany never came and they all died instead.
 

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I agree. I do like Sansa's rise in a way but now she has kinda crossed the line into being the next Littlefinger.
If Dany doesn't get killed, she has a lot of executing to do! Varys, Sansa, Cersei, Euron, Tyrion and Jon.

I hear your point. Sansa's challenging to just lump into a defined box.
She went through hell and I can't blame her.
To go from Jeffrey and all that bullshit and end up with Ramsey? FUckkkkk!
That would make anyone(who survives) never the same again.
 

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Im not saying Jon was wrong for telling.

Im saying Jon was wrong for being so naive.

I love Jon as much as the next fan, but he's gotta get called out for it.

Hell i'm starting to understand why Jon doesn't want any of it.
Those people are some ungrateful MKers that will turn on you in a second.
He came back with an army to save the ingrates and they damn near wanted to kick him outside.
No thank you from any of them...savage!

Most sense you made all thread fam. But. Jon does not see it that way.

Jon Snow is the dumbest leading character in all of history though. You guys have to admit it.


Jon is not dumb or nieve IMO. He is the most honest and compassionate.

He has never lied once, even if it would have made things easier. And he always wants whats for the greater good. Him being a bastard but really is the closest person to being Ned Stark in the end.
 

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I guess cause Ramsey raped her? They feel bad for her?
However lets talk about the rape. It wasn't so shocking.
We knew he was going to have sex with her.
It wasn't like he punched her in the face and ripped her clothes off.

Dany was raped as well.

She lost a dragon, half the Unsullied, almost all the Dothraki, and her most loyal advisor. If it wasnt for her they would almost all be dead.

Its amazing to me how cool GoT fans are with Sansa's ungratefulness.
 

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Yeah... but the wights wouldn’t even go near fire. He literally cooled down the fire by walking in. He’s their superior so it’s easy to imply that his threshold is much higher.

Yeah but again there's one thing and then there's the other lol

They're the same in name only not in effect at that point

Shit until a little bit ago dragon fire wasn't even an option

And they had to nearly die to find out about the steel and the glass lol
 

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I don't like Dany. However why is the North against her? She did everything everyone asked of her and helped the North.
She lost 1/2 her forces helping them and those ungrateful bitches still don't trust her? She has done nothing but be trustworthy.

Another example of shitty writing.
 

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It honestly doesn't really make much sense. Hell you would think she's worshipped as a hero at this point.
Sansa is cold as ice. If she really cared about her people as much as she pretends then how
do you not give the person that just help saved the entire North some level of respect? Props?
What's funny is how Sansa and some on the board want to bypass what Dany did.
Could Arya have iced the NK if Dany and her forces didn't come to the north?

Sansa doesn't trust her. Sansa isn't the people
The people in that hall praised her and cheered for her when she made Gendry a lord
and the army marched down to King's landing on her command.
Sansa ain't everybody. Or even most.
 

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What crazy is her mom Kathlyn Stark definitely give off that northerners don't trust anyone vibe.
But Ned never came across like that. At least not to me.
She wasn't raised by either of them though
The only people who were old enough to actually be raised by Ned were Rob and Jon. Thus, they are the way they are.
Sansa was a "little bird" when Ned died and never saw her mother again.
Raised and groomed by Cersei then a little Tyrion then ramsay and little finger.
She's been around them longer than she'd been around ned and katy

Same with Arya, she was even younger than Sansa when Ned died and never saw her mother again.
 

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Sansa doesn't trust her. Sansa isn't the people
The people in that hall praised her and cheered for her when she made Gendry a lord
and the army marched down to King's landing on her command.
Sansa ain't everybody. Or even most.

You don't have to trust her which i get. Hell you just met her.
But how do you not extend some level of respect after the sacrifice she made to save your ass?
 

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You don't have to trust her which i get. Hell you just met her.
But how do you not extend some level of respect after the sacrifice she made to save your ass?

But what's disrespect? See what I mean lol
When did she disrespect her? By saying the army's are tired the men are injured it's not wise to march down there and we're not ready if you plan on winning.
If speaking up about that is disrespecting the queen then let's revisit the whole "Tyrant" argument.

Not liking her aside her bringing up those concerns had nothing to do with respect
 

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But what's disrespect? See what I mean lol
When did she disrespect her? By saying the army's are tired the men are injured it's not wise to march down there and we're not ready if you plan on winning.
If speaking up about that is disrespecting the queen then let's revisit the whole "Tyrant" argument.

Not liking her aside her bringing up those concerns had nothing to do with not liking her.

She literally told Jon in the garden that Arya did it all. Completely ignoring Dany and her army's role in the entire ordeal.
 

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Hell i'm starting to understand why Jon doesn't want any of it.
Those people are some ungrateful MKers that will turn on you in a second.
He came back with an army to save the ingrates and they damn near wanted to kick him outside.
No thank you from any of them...savage!

The leadership responsibilty is hard.....but the chaos of the kingdom needs a leader like Snow
 

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She literally told Jon in the garden that Arya did it all. Completely ignoring Dany and her army's role in the entire ordeal.

Yes but not to the queen she had a private conversation with her brother about it after he stepped in and pulled rank and said we're gonna do what Dany says even though everyone in the room knew Sansa was right.

How many times would you have a good plan or best idea and your brother come through and side with his broad before you have to pull him to the side and say look my g you tripping?
 

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Yes but not to the queen she had a private conversation with her brother about it after he stepped in and pulled rank and said we're gonna do what Dany says even though everyone in the room knew Sansa was right.

How many times would you have a good plan or best idea and your brother come through and side with his broad before you have to pull him to the side and say look my g you tripping?

It's funny to me how the show has made Sansa out to be the wisest person in the room now.
Sansa is wisest at playing the deceit, con, no ones genuine, everyone out to get you scheme.
The chicks not genuine at all man and she's certainly not loyal to anyone but herself.


Honestly, are we supposed to believe that if Jon become king of the 7 she would trust him?
She's shown multiple times already that she doesn't trust him even tho...
When she came to castle black you think that's because she trusted him or she could use him for her end?

IMO, the only reason she wants him to rule is because she feels he's more controllable than Dany.
It has nothing to do with trust or respect or family.

Cold as ice and like you said Cersei and Joffrey and Ramsi and Little fingers protege.

So far in this thread we've been shitting on Dany but folks are sleeping on Sansa.
 
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