This was until the last two seasons when these bitches start getting paid so much they stopped showing titties. Not that I wanted to see it but Brienne showed no titties.
Game Of Thrones: The Sopranos with swords or Dynasty in chainmail?
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This was until the last two seasons when these bitches start getting paid so much they stopped showing titties. Not that I wanted to see it but Brienne showed no titties.
Shhhhhhhhhhhh, cclear your mind.. Forget what other convos you were having for 5 minutes.
The Danaerys evil villain stuff did not happen until THIS season.. The burning of cities did not start until this season
kool ok, show me the scene, youtube it or tell me the episode where she said she'd hurt and kill innocent people before season 8, I'll be here.
iiiigh, ya'll making up your own head canon now. lols, if you got to do that, its written poorly
In order for anyone to kill Daenerys, they got to get past the Unsullied, and mainly Grey Worm. They have to kill them both, and how are they going to deal with the rest of the Unsullied troops? They not just going to fall inline and support Jon Snow or whoever gets the crown.
Onus is on you to prove. Not keep moving the goalposts. Gave you proof with a YouTube link and now you’re just asking for more stuff. Purposely ignoring.
Is she not the offspring of inbreeding?
It going to be very interesting how they play this things out.
Hell Arya is the next Ninja cat that can get pass anyone, apparently! Who knows they already made her merk the NK on some cheap BS.
Logically, Jon is the only one that can get past the unsilled etc because they let him through.
Also based on the Jon character I don't see how he straight up murders Danyi? A woman?
That wouldn't line up for his character. Then again who the hell knows with this show anymore.
You did see that both of her hands were chained and linked to chains on her feet, right? How was she(who's not a fighter at all) supposed to "pull the bitch over the side?"
There are more if you want them:
"In season 4, after Ser Barristan was killed by the terror group Sons of the Harpy. In response, Dany brings three masters to her dragonpit. All swear they have nothing to do with the rogue group. She burns one of them alive to send a message to the others. Was the man guilty? Innocent? We don’t know and Dany didn’t seem to mind not knowing."
one addition..this is her in season 1
" In season one, she also literally declares, “When my dragons are grown, we will take back what was stolen from me and destroy those who have wronged me. We will lay waste to armies and burn cities to the ground!”"
Thanks 4 proving me right, never killed 1 innocent, never said she would.
Glad we're on the same page my man.
Didn't see the YouTube clip. Imma check 4 it, gimme like 1 hour to settle down and check it out.
How do you burn cities to the ground and not harm the innocent?
You're delusional.
One other thing to note. You shouldn’t just gloss over the killing of the maester without Dany finding out if he was innocent or guilty.
It is important to note that Dany didn’t care to find out. She just burned anyway. How do you think Dany views the inhabitants of King’s landing? She doesn’t care anymore if they are innocent. The two events are not unrelated.
It's a hypothetical city where everyone is guilty. You gotta do some real mental gymnastics to make that work in your head.
He said Dany would never burn down a city and kill innocent people. Show me how that's possible!
I then show him a DIRECT QUOTE from Dany saying when her Dragons got big she was going to burn whole fucking cities to the ground!
His reply: See...told you her character wouldn't burn down a city!!
So now you don't understand the context? That's not the whole quote. See... now it's not even an honest debate. Say the whole quote, so we can discuss it honestly.
A whole city can never wrong you. She did actually what she said she was going to do in Season 1. Cersei wronged her so she burned the whole city down in vengeance and made the whole city pay (as well as all the other reasons I gave earlier to send her over the ledge). It's literally what she said she was going to do in season 1. It's literally what she kept saying she wanted to do in seasons 6 and 7 and Varis and Tyrion kept talking her out of it because of all the innocent people that would die!
She said she was going to do it from the beginner of her character development. She spent several seasons making the case to do it and her advisors kept talking her out of it. She then decided to do what she said was doing to do and burned the shit down.
I mean the shit is right there. Yall just don't want to accept it.
I literally can't remember how many times they had to talk her out of just going to King's Landing and burning it down. It's like yall didnt even watch this show.
Everybody in that episode was being who they have always been. Literally every power move Dany has ever made came by means of fire and blood....all the way from season 1. Its not a far cry that now that she's lost everyone and everything she cares about and doesnt trust the ones left (minus Grey Worm) that she would go ham on the city that represents every bad thing that ever happened to her in her life. Her whole story arc has been the men around her dont listen to her or try to play her and when shit goes left she resolves it by burning people. Jon always been a fool for honor to his own demise. Tyrion always been the smartest guy in the room that always makes the wrong play. Cersei always been the think she the smartest person in the room and her plans blow up in her face. Jaime always been the cat with the makings of a good man who is in love with his sister and will kill the whole world just to be next to her. Arya always been a lil savage who dont like to see people she thinks are innocent die. I mean.....there were no surprises in terms of who these characters are.
This! People don't necessarily mind Dany becoming the Mad Queen; the problem is how they have taken us on that journey as viewers. Perhaps it's the short season, rushing, or bad writing, but her character arc isn't resonating with the viewers. She could be ruthless with her enemies, but fire-bombing a whole city of innocent people unnecessarily wasn't her nature, and the character trajectory they've used to take us there simply hasn't been plausible.
Remember it took over two seasons to make us like Jaime, and that involved his traveling with Brienne and ultimately getting his hand chopped off. Before that, he was just an arrogant asshole who's only redeeming quality was that he accepted Tyrion for who he was.
Lena Headey is a great actress. Had us hating Cersei at the end of episode 4 and then feeling sorry for Cersei at the end of this episode.
Yes you do! I bet you like the blonde afro in the second pic too.
Exactly. I think the shorter season (in terms of overall episodes) makes it feel rushed, but the conclusions are fine.
This! People don't necessarily mind Dany becoming the Mad Queen; the problem is how they have taken us on that journey as viewers. Perhaps it's the short season, rushing, or bad writing, but her character arc isn't resonating with the viewers. She could be ruthless with her enemies, but fire-bombing a whole city of innocent people unnecessarily wasn't her nature, and the character trajectory they've used to take us there simply hasn't been plausible.
Remember it took over two seasons to make us like Jaime, and that involved his traveling with Brienne and ultimately getting his hand chopped off. Before that, he was just an arrogant asshole who's only redeeming quality was that he accepted Tyrion for who he was.
Lena Headey is a great actress. Had us hating Cersei at the end of episode 4 and then feeling sorry for Cersei at the end of this episode.
Yes you do! I bet you like the blonde afro in the second pic too.
If you listen to what Dany has said this whole season, it all makes perfect sense. She's been burning people alive since before she had dragons, but they had been people she considered her enemies. Now she is in a land where no one loves her...even the man she sacrificed one of her dragons to come and save is playin her to the left....and she told him then...."let it be fear then." She realizes that Westeros aint ever gonna love her....so all she can do is make them fear her so deeply that nobody will ever try her again. Given the loss of another dragon, her homegirl, and realizing that Jon basically betrayed her as she explained to Tyrion.....yeah her moves make sense. She's damn near been the only one who's made sense all season.
^^^ Agreed. It was overconfidence.
Also let’s not forget that ‘killing people immediately’ doesn’t always happen like that on tv shows.
HBO: The Sopranos is the perfect example.
New Jersey & New York were literally at War with each other.... but whenever they AGREE to have a ‘sit down’... and they are ‘just talking’.... nobody is trying to kill their enemy ‘right then & there’.
For example >> Tony Soprano shows up in NYC with Silvio & Christopher.... they are ALONE & severely outnumbered.
All 3 of them could have been easily killed in the bar, right on the spot...
But sometimes folks DO take out their enemies during a sit down... and HBO: The Wire is a perfect example of this, when Little Kevin gets abducted after talking to Marlo...
Err. Very nice try but no. Cersei dont give a fuck about that diplomatic shit anymore. She had no motivation not to go ape shit on them.
Those people in the bar are paid. FUck them. Corny as BS with an annoying theme song.
Ask yourself... are those Mobsters on the Sopranos ‘just not as smart’ as Marlo was on the Wire?
Either way it goes... It’s always done for ‘dramatic purposes’.Because that’s HOW tv shows are written. It’s not always as ‘black & white’ as we think it should be.
But a lot of folks who have been complaining about these last few episodes of “Game of Thrones” seemed to have forgotten these basic aspects of television.
I been watching a lot of these ‘YouTube reactors’ who been bitching about everything... they sit & watch the show.... and the whole time they are constantly, constantly, constantly second-guessing every single second of every single scene & every piece of dialog
Like these 2. Every single scene they are steady ‘predicting’ what is about to happen...
Meanwhile, notice how the folks who simply just ‘watch what is happening’ are enjoying the final episodes a whole lot MORE
This! People don't necessarily mind Dany becoming the Mad Queen; the problem is how they have taken us on that journey as viewers. Perhaps it's the short season, rushing, or bad writing, but her character arc isn't resonating with the viewers. She could be ruthless with her enemies, but fire-bombing a whole city of innocent people unnecessarily wasn't her nature, and the character trajectory they've used to take us there simply hasn't been plausible.
It's shitty writing. She literally had her forces fighting to save humanity 2 episodes ago.
So she could rule it.
Dany wasn't there to save humanity. She was there because it was the only way she could sit on the Iron Throne. "Saving humanity" just became a necessary part of her path to the IT. Once she understood what the threat was, she knew she had to fight that battle first. If she didn't, she'd lose the IT if she ever got a chance to sit on it.
That made that clear as day because even when she was up there to "save humanity", her main concern was getting everyone up there to bend the knee.
She just went flying through the streets...indiscriminately burning men, women and children alike. Possibly in the millions. I don't think there is anyone in the GOT universe who has done worse.
I was talking about Cersei. Yeah she wasn't qualified but wouldnt do some shit like that.
You seem to be overlooking how she became Queen....by blowing up the Sept while it was full of people, not to mention the neighborhoods around it. She already did some shit like that. What show are you watching???
Naw the Sparrow was no innocent and deserved to die, unfortunately there were bystanders . Cersei wiped out her enemies and anyone she thought would be a threat to her child.
There is a difference between self preservation and killing people for no reason.
@VAiz4hustlaz @Heavenlywings77 Thanks for trying to explain to these cretans
Cersei's aim was to take out her enemies and she just didn't give a fuck about who else died in the process. She didn't mindlessly kill innocents. If Dany had simply flown to the Red Keep itself and burned it to the ground, then that would have been ruthless but would have made more sense. Instead, she ZIG-ZAGGED all across Kings Landing, burning everything in sight, and then flew to the Red Keep to burn it down.
Thats some real convenient gymnastics you doing with that. The Sept was FULL of people and there were mad people all around it that were burned up....not to mention the Septon and the Faith Militant were only in power because of her dumb ass in the first place. But.....by your logic, Dany is all good because Cersei was in King's Landing.
Dany had a purpose. To make them fear her since she realized they would never love her. I aint sayin either one is right. Just that they arent very different.
Here's the silliest thing of all about "Mad Dany"
Can anyone explain why she didn't go straight towards Cersei?
Let's think about this honestly. At that point who is she more mad it? The women and children running for their lives or Cersei?
She looks at the tower where Cersei is and then burns the people on the ground? Huh?
She wanted to make it personal so she burned women and children? Huh?
She had no desire to look Cersei in the face before roasting her?
This is the person that just killed your best friend, chopped her head off, and made you watch.
The person responsible for killing another one of your dragons.
The person whose brother was responsible for killing your father.
There person who swore to fight by your side against the NK and broke her promise.
She was far more harsher with the people on the ground than Cersei.
That's all you need to know to realize the narrative was bullshit!
Fuck outta here!
Can anyone explain why she didn't go straight towards Cersei?
Let's think about this honestly. At that point who is she more mad it? The women and children running for their lives or Cersei?
She looks at the tower where Cersei is and then burns the people on the ground? Huh?
She wanted to make it personal so she burned women and children? Huh?
She had no desire to look Cersei in the face before roasting her?
This is the person that just killed your best friend, chopped her head off, and made you watch.
The person responsible for killing another one of your dragons.
The person whose brother was responsible for killing your father.
There person who swore to fight by your side against the NK and broke her promise.
She was far more harsher with the people on the ground than Cersei.
That's all you need to know to realize the narrative was bullshit!
Fuck outta here!
Thats some real convenient gymnastics you doing with that. The Sept was FULL of people and there were mad people all around it that were burned up....not to mention the Septon and the Faith Militant were only in power because of her dumb ass in the first place. But.....by your logic, Dany is all good because Cersei was in King's Landing.
Hey, no one is giving Cersei an A for her leadership skills. All I am saying is she wasn't that great of a ruler but she wasn't a bad ruler, she wasn't going around burning people alive, she would arrest your ass, send you to the wall or strip you of your property.