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bbuzzard

Skeptic
BGOL Investor
Bro the weight difference in the Rival S is immediately noticeable and the trigger is even better than I remember on the TP9SFx. I remember the TP9 having more creep before the trigger breaking. You hit the wall damn near immediately on the Rival S and if there's any creep you barely notice it
Didn't say I was choosing the best, just saying I like what I got
 

MYSTIC

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I'm looking for my 1st gun. I was thinking some type of shotgun to hopefully just scare a mf off but i don't really like guns but know i gotta protect my fam. Any suggestions?
 

Coldchi

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I'm looking for my 1st gun. I was thinking some type of shotgun to hopefully just scare a mf off but i don't really like guns but know i gotta protect my fam. Any suggestions?
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cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
I'm looking for my 1st gun. I was thinking some type of shotgun to hopefully just scare a mf off but i don't really like guns but know i gotta protect my fam. Any suggestions?
1st thing is forget all the shit you see on tv and in movies because 9 outta 10x the shit you see is overexaggerated. After that understand that no matter what you get, you will need to train so you fully understand how to use your weapon properly especially with shotguns. Shotguns are versatile but they have inherent limitations primarily around their capacity and how you load/reload/clear malfunctions.

Before making your purchase, go to a range and rent weapons so you know whether they feel comfortable handling and shooting them. If you do go for a shotgun, get a Mossberg. They have legitimate legacy for reliability and a lot of 3rd party support. If you go with a pistol, then same thing. Rent to confirm whether that pistol is right for you. Don't just jump to a specific model or brand just off the strength of the word of someone else. What works for them won't automatically mean it works for you.
 

EGO-TRIP

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I'm looking for my 1st gun. I was thinking some type of shotgun to hopefully just scare a mf off but i don't really like guns but know i gotta protect my fam. Any suggestions?
First gun, in my opinion, should be a handgun because you can have it with you at all times. Then specialize into shotgun ,rifle, carbine.... whatever. If on a budget, get a pistol cal rifle that uses the same magazine and ammo as your handgun
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
Invest in classes. Don't think you're automatically John Wick just cuz you have your gun. There are a broad range of classes from simple self defense to room clearing. You'll realize quickly that you don't know shit compared to what you thought you knew and what you know barely even scratches the surface.
 

Stix-N-Stonz

Dirty Civilian
Platinum Member
^^^^ Take classes. They will teach you the basics like trigger discipline, shooting positions and other things to make you a safer shooter. Clearing malfunctions and operating your weapon. Don't assume you know shit, go with an open mind and listen and apply what you learn. Most ranges will let you rent different weapons to try them out, pick the one that feels best in your hands, and that you can operate proficiently. Talk to your instructor about your situation and they can recommend ammo and weapons applicable to your daily life.
 

Stix-N-Stonz

Dirty Civilian
Platinum Member
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Swapped out the green dot on my M&P from a Holosun 507C to a Holosun EPS. Same size window on both but the EPS has the advantage of having an enclosed emitter so I don't have to worry about any dust, lint or debris obscuring my window view

Thats pretty damn slick right there. Closed emitter sounds good, my windows get filthy.
 
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cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
Thats pretty damn slic


Thats pretty damn slick right there. Closed emitter sounds good, my windows get filthy.
Bro I hate having to wipe the glass on my optics damn near every week. When I saw how much lint build up was in my optic today when I swapped it out, I was like damn I'm lucky I wasn't in a fire fight cuz my window was filthy AF :smh:
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
BTW C&H Precision makes a specific plate for the EPS & EPS Carry. Even though they fit on 407k/507k footprint and you can use 507k plates, those footprints typically only have 2 recoil lugs in the front while the C&H plate has 4 recoil lugs that match directly with the EPS/EPS Carry.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
I don't know what I'm gonna do with my 507C now. I might put it on my Shadow Systems MR920 or I might hold on to it for something else. I thought bout putting it on my 5.56 as an offset optic but I'm already running a 1-8x LPVO so the green dot would be redundant. I might just sell it along with the 507K I have on my Shield Plus. I wanna put an EPS Carry on the Shield Plus but they're practically sold out at every spot I've looked at so far.
 

Z MONSTER

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
I got a nice AK (Romainian SAR-1 7.62X39). I have a side rail and mount. What kind of optic do yall recomend?
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
I got a nice AK (Romainian SAR-1 7.62X39). I have a side rail and mount. What kind of optic do yall recomend?
what kind of distance are you planning on shooting. If you plan on trying to stretch out past 100yds then go with an LPVO like a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x or 1-8x. If you don't plan on going past 100yds then a red/green dot should be sufficient. Something like a Holosun 510C would do the job. Don't do the red dot w/ magnifier combinations. It gets cumbersome and heavy. You'd be better off getting an LPVO instead of that combination.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
Welp. N.C. pistol permit system ends. I'm on the fence about this. The sheriffs of N.C. was doing a good job in vetting the crazies, but I can see how it can be unfair if a bias sheriff or one of his employees can deny you because they don't like you.
https://www.wral.com/north-carolina-ends-pistol-permit-system/20786246/
Do we actually know they were vetting crazies though? I don't have any data to dispute or cosign so I'm just curious. I'm a fan of it being repealed. I don't like the idea of any Jim Crow era laws still being active especially when I see how lopsided it can skew who has access. Just look at NY & NJ. It's damn near impossible for anyone within the 5 boroughs to get a pistol legally even with a written & signed statement from Jesus.
 

Z MONSTER

Rising Star
BGOL Investor
Do we actually know they were vetting crazies though? I don't have any data to dispute or cosign so I'm just curious. I'm a fan of it being repealed. I don't like the idea of any Jim Crow era laws still being active especially when I see how lopsided it can skew who has access. Just look at NY & NJ. It's damn near impossible for anyone within the 5 boroughs to get a pistol legally even with a written & signed statement from Jesus.
You would be surprised how many people are committed here in N.C. daily. But I do agree that it was a Jim Crow Law. I just went down there this past January and got two permits just in case I saw something I want. The conceal carry permit laws are still the same though.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
You would be surprised how many people are committed here in N.C. daily. But I do agree that it was a Jim Crow Law. I just went down there this past January and got two permits just in case I saw something I want. The conceal carry permit laws are still the same though.
I live in NC as well and made sure I got my conceal carry immediately after I bought my 1st firearm back in 2020. It just makes things much more convenient plus learning the legal aspects of gun ownership are extremely valuable. I'm a huge proponent for every gun owner to take a class where they learn the gun laws for their home states.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
It's amazing how many ppl I see saying hunting rifles should be used instead of standard ARs for home protection. They have no idea just how much more powerful those rifles are. I feel sorry for the sorry bastard who catches a close quarters blast from a .308 or 30_06. :smh:
 

PsiBorg

We Think, so We'll Know
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It's amazing how many ppl I see saying hunting rifles should be used instead of standard ARs for home protection. They have no idea just how much more powerful those rifles are. I feel sorry for the sorry bastard who catches a close quarters blast from a .308 or 30_06. :smh:
Hunting rifles are for hunting and stalking game animals. I wouldn't used them for home defense, unless that's the only thing I have available. Can you image shooting a .30-06 in a house? Your ears would be toast, and you'd better pray that the round doesn't end up in a neighbor's bedroom.

I'm hesitant on using an AR-15 in the house, because of over-penetration as well. Now if I don't have close neighbors, I'd probably think differently.

I'd rather use a hand gun, 9mm, .38, .380 etc... for home defense. But for me, ideally, I'm rolling with the trusty Mossberg 500. If I'm in the house, that's what I'm grabbing first. If the intruder is outside of the home, then I'm grabbing the AR-15, then the hand gun.

If a person gets hit with .30-06 at close quarters, he may not even know he's been hit for a minute. He'll probably have time to turn around and see his own insides against a wall... unless he's hit in the head.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
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Hunting rifles are for hunting and stalking game animals. I wouldn't used them for home defense, unless that's the only thing I have available. Can you image shooting a .30-06 in a house? Your ears would be toast, and you'd better pray that the round doesn't end up in a neighbor's bedroom.

I'm hesitant on using an AR-15 in the house, because of over-penetration as well. Now if I don't have close neighbors, I'd probably think differently.

I'd rather use a hand gun, 9mm, .38, .380 etc... for home defense. But for me, ideally, I'm rolling with the trusty Mossberg 500. If I'm in the house, that's what I'm grabbing first. If the intruder is outside of the home, then I'm grabbing the AR-15, then the hand gun.

If a person gets hit with .30-06 at close quarters, he may not even know he's been hit for a minute. He'll probably have time to turn around and see his own insides against a wall... unless he's hit in the head.
The only hunting rifle caliber i'd ever trust for home defense is .308 because it's easy of availability and its versatility. If you're worried about overpenetration then you just wont want to shoot any gun indoors because they all go through dry wall including birdshot. Standard AR rounds will fragment more despite traveling at faster speeds. I personally have an AR chambered in 300Blk for my primary home defense because it's powerful enough to effectively neutralize a threat without needing to expend many rounds and it can be suppressed to protect my hearing as well as deter flash that can distract me.
 

PsiBorg

We Think, so We'll Know
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The only hunting rifle caliber i'd ever trust for home defense is .308 because it's easy of availability and its versatility. If you're worried about overpenetration then you just wont want to shoot any gun indoors because they all go through dry wall including birdshot. Standard AR rounds will fragment more despite traveling at faster speeds. I personally have an AR chambered in 300Blk for my primary home defense because it's powerful enough to effectively neutralize a threat without needing to expend many rounds and it can be suppressed to protect my hearing as well as deter flash that can distract me.
I totally understand where you're coming from. I have a 300Blk as well. If I were to use it in the house, I'd keep the magazine loaded with subsonic rounds.

But, again... my go to home defense weapon is going to be the shotty. Outside though, it's the 300Blk for me. One of my friends has an AR-10, and it shoots the .308. I can't help it, I'd be worried about over penetration. I don't have any experience with that round. But, .300 Win Mag, .270Win... I for damn sure wouldn't use those in the house.
 

cli-terminator

Retired ManWhore
BGOL Investor
I totally understand where you're coming from. I have a 300Blk as well. If I were to use it in the house, I'd keep the magazine loaded with subsonic rounds.

But, again... my go to home defense weapon is going to be the shotty. Outside though, it's the 300Blk for me. One of my friends has an AR-10, and it shoots the .308. I can't help it, I'd be worried about over penetration. I don't have any experience with that round. But, .300 Win Mag, .270Win... I for damn sure wouldn't use those in the house.
I do keep subsonic rds ready for my 300Blk and the suppressor stays mounted. Only time I take it off is if I want to have some target plinking fun with my 300Blk bolt-action. I can't imagine the amount ringing from shooting a .308 inside a home especially if it has a muzzle brake. The boom from shotguns is enough for me to not be a fan. A .308 or 30_06 or anything similar is unfathomable.
 

DiGeneral

Rising Star
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I do keep subsonic rds ready for my 300Blk and the suppressor stays mounted. Only time I take it off is if I want to have some target plinking fun with my 300Blk bolt-action. I can't imagine the amount ringing from shooting a .308 inside a home especially if it has a muzzle brake. The boom from shotguns is enough for me to not be a fan. A .308 or 30_06 or anything similar is unfathomable.
I was about to comment this. I'm fairly certain that most have not experienced shooting a 5.56 sans hearing protection in an enclosed environment. 1st hand testament, It's not fun. I couldn't imagine anything larger. My HD set up is a canned G45 with the typical accoutrements and my Benelli M4. I do have my SCAR 17S (canned) at the ready, just in case I need to reach out and/or penetrate some hardened targets. Ear pro is also at the ready, not that I'd have the opportunity to deploy, but you never know.
 
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