I agree except for the stats stuff.. ja morants father is with him and look at him... meanwhile lebron is the product of a single parent house and look at him.
there are definite positive and negative influences in the black community tho.
If rappers never talked about violence or drugs. Would the Hood be different?
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I agree except for the stats stuff.. ja morants father is with him and look at him... meanwhile lebron is the product of a single parent house and look at him.
there are definite positive and negative influences in the black community tho.
We may have to get together and discuss creating a pod cast to talk about the inside corruption of HipHop and it's external effects on the BLK community.
I come from a single family home, I only had my mother and no male influence, I also ran the streets for a good while before I went into the music industry and eventually went back to school to get my GED and then went to college.
There will always be an outlier within any statistic. But we don't look at the outliers, we look at the overall majority. And what the saying.... Majority Rules.
I do believe there is a difference between talking about viewing violence like Common does, and the people that are talking about being a part of the violence. I don't think we'd have these fake rappers from the burbs talking about Dracos, but they should definitely be talking about pills because that is 1000% suburb shit.
Philadelphia is voting on a mayor tomorrow and a certain crowd is talking about the importance of voting and how voting participation has waned throughout the decades. People vote because they want to participate in the governance of themselves. Talking about the benefits of governance is akin to speaking about Africa in 8500 BCE in 2023.
Music is like the rings in a tree. It captures the economy of the time like rings exposing how much carbon was in the atmosphere at the time. It tells a story. If disco is the bill of partying and drugging era, then rap is the bill coming due. Everything has a cost.
Do you think certain rap made Blacks from the “suburbs” feel like they aren’t really Black or soft? The irony now is there are plenty of ghetto suburbs. Even Compton is a suburb. Rap definitely put pressure on suburban Black kids with good up bringings to have to want to prove their Blackness in some ways. We all have family in the burbs and seen this.
I agree I no longer try to do any drill or trap music in my studio. I feel like I have to take part of the responsibility for being one of the first producers and engineers to help bring out a certain artist that ushered in the drill sound.
So what you're essentially saying is we're sheep and we do anything for money and attention?
If that's the case then the problems not rap music the problem is our people and their low sense of value, morals and leadership.
So how do you fix that?
if thats the case then the majority of black kids from single parent homes ARENT criminals or doing knuckleheaded things. Just like the vast majority of blacks in general are hard working, law abiding citizens who are trying to get thru their day like everyone else. But if you go by crime stats you would think we ALL are criminal minded malcontents.
Whats the saying... there are lies...damn lies...then there are statistics.
85% of all people know this
You don't listen to it because you're of a different economical era.
I can find agreement in your statement. You are correct, and statistics are like history, whoever writes it controls the narrative. However, just because we're speaking about 80% of black people that are not doing the crime, let's talk about The overwhelming majority of blk youth that are doing damage at an alarming rate.if thats the case then the majority of black kids from single parent homes ARENT criminals or doing knuckleheaded things. Just like the vast majority of blacks in general are hard working, law abiding citizens who are trying to get thru their day like everyone else. But if you go by crime stats you would think we ALL are criminal minded malcontents.
Whats the saying... there are lies...damn lies...then there are statistics.
85% of all people know this
We need to look at what's really going on, and where the influences are coming from.
Along with how pharmaceutical companies, local government, social media, the church, and music all plays a role when the parents do not parent.
Let them know that they're black, and anything they do will be something a black person does. I've gone skydiving and heard that's something black people don't do, but that can't be because, as a black person, I did it.
I remember we had a family reunion and some of the family from Long Island was there. The hood side of the family were clowning the kids for talking white and “dressing white” this is when baggy ass clothes were still popular. They were wearing fitted clothes . Even my hood ass aunties were laughing at them.
It can't be fixed. The people with the resources to fix it will never do it.
I got clowned for the same shit too. Where are those people at now?
To quote Nas:
So he moves with his peers, different blocks, different years
Sitting on, different benches like it's musical chairs
All his peoples moved on in life, he's on the corners at night
With young dudes it's them he want to be like
It's sad but it's fun to him right? He never grew up
31 and can't give his youth, he's in his second childhood
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They still in that same shithole
The exact same? You don’t really believe that
Same here.
The game afforded a decent life for my family. But, at what cost to society?
Yes I really believe that. Although music is influential all these problems existed well before rap music existed. Hell the violence was actually at one point far worse. It's not the root of the issues. The economics are the root.
No cause the rappers were just a reflection of what was going on in the streets.Remember drugs were around before the crack era,Heroin and dope fiends was heavy,pill poppers too and it was in the music just not as bold and loud.
James made a whole song about "Pay back...he can do wheeling,dealing but he does no damn squeeling" In other words getting away,selling whatever and no snitching.
Mr.Nobody is somebody now by Johnnie Taylor who was talking about a prostitute turning him into a somebody and he was a pimp so......
These songs were the soundtracks to some people's lives that were living that lifestyle.But once music video's were just as popular as the songs themselves in the 1980's that's when the entertainrs and urban culture was invited into every home across America,especially in middle America(white) in some form or fashion and the ghetto/ streets crept in the backdoor,window or anyway they could.
James made a whole song about "Pay back...he can do wheeling,dealing but he does no damn squeeling" In other words getting away,selling whatever and no snitching.
Mr.Nobody is somebody now by Johnnie Taylor who was talking about a prostitute turning him into a somebody and he was a pimp so......
These songs were the soundtracks to some people's lives that were living that lifestyle.But once music video's were just as popular as the songs themselves in the 1980's that's when the entertainrs and urban culture was invited into every home across America,especially in middle America(white) in some form or fashion and the ghetto/ streets crept in the backdoor,window or anyway they could.
2001... We said damn standing at the gas station selling CDs. We put our music online
called us internet rappers.. Now look at these nixxas
Crime in the Black community in the 50’s , 60’s and 70’s was nowhere near what it is now.
Of course not but a lot of it when it did happen didn't travel very far but in the 80's we had television,special reports and we could tune-in and see what was happening in LA,D.C,Miami,Dallas,Detroit,NYC,NewJersey and we don't have to be there to know what's going on cause 9 times out of 10 it was happening where we were at.
Now it's100X faster,it hits the internet first and everything else second.Example Kia Boys....steal a kia in less than 60 seconds and these kids are doing it via the net unlike before where you had to know someone who knew how to it to show you how to do some criminal shit.
No it wouldn’t
You can love and appreciate hiphop and also recognize it has been detrimental to black people.
Let’s just take LEAN. It was mainly a Houston/southern thing. When it started being popular in hiphop and promoted by rappers it spread to place like Ohio. So now kids in Ohio who would’ve never been drinking they are drinking it. That’s because of hiphop.
You’re proving my point. When rappers say something is cool, the hood follows. Wearing skinny jeans was a hiphop no no . Rappers do it now look at these niggas. Nobody had “ops” until chicago gang shit made that shit popular now Coi Leray raps about Ops. Rap beefs went from lyrics to actual violence and death.
I’ll bring him up again, Ja Morants entire personality is based on NBA youngboy
It's all by design!! This Corporation spends billions of dollars annually to keep this shit the way it is!!
yes.
They don’t hear you though.. the 70s in nyc look like a pure hell hole. It was a bunch of crews and gangs fighting for territory.. the 70s was the heroin era.. yet there was no rap music being played.. so why was it so bad then? It wasn’t the music.. Isley bros was playing love songs and all kinda love tracks and disco.. but nigs want to act like pre rap era was black paradise and black progress fuck outta here.. from an economic point and even violence point it’s better now than it was back in the 70s and 80s.. nigs on here trying to get 1400 the cell phones back in the 70/80s ya nigs would’ve been sitting ducks and robbed for ya shit.. nigs don’t understand how much privileged they are now compared to back in the days
Exactly it's not difficult to understand if you know history, but people love to use the lazy scapegoat of blaming rap.
You sound like my mom when I was in high school. Nothing in the hood won't change until our women decide they want to date a guy of a higher caliber AKA corny niggas. I know some of you mental slumdwelling, are saying "Why should she want a corny nigga?". Why not, when in the last 50 has their way of dating/mating worked? Until they put the betterment of their race over the sexual desire, things will stay the same.
I'm moving this summer to Windsor Terrace from Canarsie. Nigga Time and Single Mother Shit has gotten the best of this neighborhood. Those engaing in both, enjoy!
I'm moving this summer to Windsor Terrace from Canarsie. Nigga Time and Single Mother Shit has gotten the best of this neighborhood. Those engaing in both, enjoy!