If rappers never talked about violence or drugs. Would the Hood be different?

[CptMARVEL]

And minorities can literally end the world.
So you can come with statistics or you can look outside and see the carnage being created.

"Minorities can literally end the world...".
Oh, you mean unlike White people?

​

 

[Cannibal]

No body is saying rap is the primary cause of violence, we're saying is reinforces violence. It teaches violence, it glorifies violence, it popularizes it, it OKs it, it perpetuates it when it should not be perpetuated. Violence against one's self via the glorification of drug use. Violence against out brother in the glorification of murder. Violence against our women, in the case of being premiscuous and even encouraging women to be homosexual ("turning out"). Violence against the community by selling drugs in our community and to the members of the community. Violence against the police (ok this one may be okay in some circumstances cause police be on bullshit) And finally violence to the children by way of being present and witness to this. By seeing this shit with their eyes, by mimicking the actions of violent adults, by way of living in drug houses that are raided and strung out parents, and other family members. By way of crossfires and stray bullets.
We're the only race that makes music that glorifies the killing of our own and when you look at the numbers, we're the only race that is in an industrialized country that shoot each other like animals. Oh its cause we're poor...No, there are other poor people in the world and they do not shoot each other like they are in a war. Stop making excuses. Nothing good can come from this violent rap. The killing rap, the 21 savage shit, the cheef keef shit. There's some little nigga out there right now, amping himself up listening to that shit. He certainly ain't listening to Will Smith or Kendrick or Chance or JCole to amp himself up. This drill rap is poison. Shit got Ja Morant all fucked up. He rich and it got him. Got him out of millions of dollars. what do you think its doing to a 14 year old? Get out of here son.

List of murdered hip hop musicians - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dr. Truth]

No body is saying rap is the primary cause of violence, we're saying is reinforces violence. It teaches violence, it glorifies violence, it popularizes it, it OKs it, it perpetuates it when it should not be perpetuated. Violence against one's self via the glorification of drug use. Violence against out brother in the glorification of murder. Violence against our women, in the case of being premiscuous and even encouraging women to be homosexual ("turning out"). Violence against the community by selling drugs in our community and to the members of the community. Violence against the police (ok this one may be okay in some circumstances cause police be on bullshit) And finally violence to the children by way of being present and witness to this. By seeing this shit with their eyes, by mimicking the actions of violent adults, by way of living in drug houses that are raided and strung out parents, and other family members. By way of crossfires and stray bullets.
We're the only race that makes music that glorifies the killing of our own and when you look at the numbers, we're the only race that is in an industrialized country that shoot each other like animals. Oh its cause we're poor...No, there are other poor people in the world and they do not shoot each other like they are in a war. Stop making excuses. Nothing good can come from this violent rap. The killing rap, the 21 savage shit, the cheef keef shit. There's some little nigga out there right now, amping himself up listening to that shit. He certainly ain't listening to Will Smith or Kendrick or Chance or JCole to amp himself up. This drill rap is poison. Shit got Ja Morant all fucked up. He rich and it got him. Got him out of millions of dollars. what do you think its doing to a 14 year old? Get out of here son.

List of murdered hip hop musicians - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah you won’t see a rapper like KRS1 or Common get shot over some bullshit street shit. But you will see a Durk, Von, Poo Sheisty and other negative ass niggas always involved with bullshit

 

[TENT]

"Minorities can literally end the world...".
Oh, you mean unlike White people?

​

SMH. You ain't even following your own context. You said minority meaning a small group. Not racial. SMH.
I person can press a button and end the world. That 1 person would be the minority versus the majority.
So the minority of people who are influenced by negative rap music can destroy the world as well.

 

[CptMARVEL]

SMH. You ain't even following your own context. You said minority meaning a small group. Not racial. SMH.
I person can press a button and end the world. That 1 person would be the minority versus the majority.
So the minority of people who are influenced by negative rap music can destroy the world as well.

So, wait, wait...
This man proudly listens to Jay-Z.

But did you ever fear he was gonna start WWIII by pushing "The button"...?


On the flip side...

This man has NEVER listened to rap or hiphop a day in his life, and yet he attempted to VIOLENTLY take over the entire country by inciting a deadly insurrection.

Seriously dude...
Do you really want to compare these men and blame Hip hop for this...?

 

[TENT]

So, wait, wait...
This man proudly listens to Jay-Z.

But did you ever fear he was gonna start WWIII by pushing "The button"...?


On the flip side...

This man has NEVER listened to rap or hiphop a day in his life, and yet he attempted to VIOLENTLY take over the entire country by inciting a deadly insurrection.

Seriously dude...
Do you really want to compare these men and blame Hip hop for this...?

You must have something wrong with you bro.
There is no way you are in a position of leadership or discussion making thinking like this?
Are you a truck driver or a delivery person?

The topic was gangsta rap and its negative influence on impressionable youngsters.

Now you got all these emojis flying bringing up 2 examples of presidents.

When there is proof of LA, NYC, ATL, Chicago and Miami being warzones due to hip hop and its influence.

Ok. Dude. Have a good one.

 

[CptMARVEL]

You must have something wrong with you bro.
There is no way you are in a position of leadership or discussion making thinking like this?
Are you a truck driver or a delivery person?

The topic was gangsta rap and its negative influence on impressionable youngsters.

Now you got all these emojis flying bringing up 2 examples of presidents.

When there is proof of LA, NYC, ATL, Chicago and Miami being warzones due to hip hop and its influence.

Ok. Dude. Have a good one.

No.
The topic isn't; "gangsta rap nor its influence on impressionable youngsters".
The topic is:

"If rappers never talked about violence or drugs. Would the Hood be different?"​

But I'm not really surprised you misunderstood what was being discussed here and continued to move the goal post.
Sadly; over the years, we've come to expect nothing less from you. And you've done nothing but continue to live down to everyone's expectations...

 

[tallblacknyc]

You must have something wrong with you bro.
There is no way you are in a position of leadership or discussion making thinking like this?
Are you a truck driver or a delivery person?

The topic was gangsta rap and its negative influence on impressionable youngsters.

Now you got all these emojis flying bringing up 2 examples of presidents.

When there is proof of LA, NYC, ATL, Chicago and Miami being warzones due to hip hop and its influence.

Ok. Dude. Have a good one.

Nyc being war zones cause of hip hop what? Nig in the 70s there was no hip hop and we had the heroin era, the crack era was not inspired by hip hop.. must I talk about the bloods and crips? That literally came from the jail/prison system in nyc( probably the worst shit that happened to ny in the past 3 decades)

 

[TENT]

Nyc being war zones cause of hip hop what? Nig in the 70s there was no hip hop and we had the heroin era, the crack era was not inspired by hip hop.. must I talk about the bloods and crips? That literally came from the jail/prison system in nyc( probably the worst shit that happened to ny in the past 3 decades)

Still you talking about the 70s. That was then and this is now.
I guess your point is there was always crime. Sure ok. That is fine.
Back then it was still a style and culture influencing the crime.
Was there gun crime now like it was back then?

Today there is talk about guns in every song.
The same guns the rappers are talking about are the same guns these kids are using!

For you to say there is no influence is crazy man.

It is clear as day that there is an influence. You got NYC dudes claiming Cali and Chicago gangs.
You got UK dudes claiming Cali and Chicago gangs.
Africans in Nigera and Ghana too.

Hip Hop got Talyor Swift doing songs with rappers. It got country dudes rapping.

So the positive influences are there and felt but the negative ones are felt???

 

[TENT]

No.
The topic isn't; "gangsta rap nor its influence on impressionable youngsters".
The topic is:

"If rappers never talked about violence or drugs. Would the Hood be different?"​

But I'm not really surprised you misunderstood what was being discussed here and continued to move the goal post.
Sadly; over the years, we've come to expect nothing less from you. And you've done nothing but continue to live down to everyone's expectations...

Dude. I can only imagine what you look like. You got to be a big creep.

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

So, wait, wait...
This man proudly listens to Jay-Z.

But did you ever fear he was gonna start WWIII by pushing "The button"...?


On the flip side...

This man has NEVER listened to rap or hiphop a day in his life, and yet he attempted to VIOLENTLY take over the entire country by inciting a deadly insurrection.

Seriously dude...
Do you really want to compare these men and blame Hip hop for this...?

You do know that WE ALL KNOW that you are BLUNT right Walter? I have your updated info also so if I were you I might calm the fuck down a little.

 

[woodchuck]

Nyc being war zones cause of hip hop what? Nig in the 70s there was no hip hop and we had the heroin era, the crack era was not inspired by hip hop.. must I talk about the bloods and crips? That literally came from the jail/prison system in nyc( probably the worst shit that happened to ny in the past 3 decades)

Oddly, the end of the gang wars in the 70s led to what eventually became hip-hop.

 

[CptMARVEL]

Dude. I can only imagine what you look like. You got to be a big creep.

That's funny.
'Cuz I've NEVER wanted to know what you look like...

 

[CptMARVEL]

You do know that WE ALL KNOW that you are BLUNT right Walter? I have your updated info also so if I were you I might calm the fuck down a little.

Then would you be so kind and PLEASE post it.
'Cuz I really wanna know...

 

[tallblacknyc]

Still you talking about the 70s. That was then and this is now.
I guess your point is there was always crime. Sure ok. That is fine.
Back then it was still a style and culture influencing the crime.
Was there gun crime now like it was back then?

Today there is talk about guns in every song.
The same guns the rappers are talking about are the same guns these kids are using!

For you to say there is no influence is crazy man.

It is clear as day that there is an influence. You got NYC dudes claiming Cali and Chicago gangs.
You got UK dudes claiming Cali and Chicago gangs.
Africans in Nigera and Ghana too.

Hip Hop got Talyor Swift doing songs with rappers. It got country dudes rapping.

So the positive influences are there and felt but the negative ones are felt???

Nig hip hop wasn’t why nyc had gang culture it was literally the prison system.. they pushed the prison gang onto the nyc streets.. bloods and crips were known cause of movies like colors, boys in the hood, etc.. nyers actually use to laugh at that gang shit than the prison system decided to use one of the most popular names from gang culture “ bloods” and it ended up staying around wayyyyyyy longer than it should.. who was screaming bloods in hip hop in nyc in 95/96 Nobody nig.. yet they was on the comeup in them nyc streets.. that wasn’t hip hop that was prison/gang culture.. who in nyc was screaming bloods prior to 98 in hip hop from ny.. like I said gang culture in ny wasn’t a product of the music… you from yonkers you don’t know about them 5 boroughs.. dmx help give your area shine.. lox didn’t even give ya enough shine b4 dmx

 

[woodchuck]

who was screaming bloods in hip hop in nyc in 95/96 Nobody nig.. yet they was on the comeup in them nyc streets.

This has always been weird to me. Not to glorify it, but NY had its own gang history. The Decepticons in the 80's, and before that, you had The Savage Nomads, Black Spades, Ghetto Brothers, Savage Skulls, Turbans, Jolly Stompers, etc. in the 70's. So it was crazy seeing people in NYC claiming Chicago (Kings) and L.A. (Bloods/Crips) gangs.

 

[TENT]

Nig hip hop wasn’t why nyc had gang culture it was literally the prison system.. they pushed the prison gang onto the nyc streets.. bloods and crips were known cause of movies like colors, boys in the hood, etc.. nyers actually use to laugh at that gang shit than the prison system decided to use one of the most popular names from gang culture “ bloods” and it ended up staying around wayyyyyyy longer than it should.. who was screaming bloods in hip hop in nyc in 95/96 Nobody nig.. yet they was on the comeup in them nyc streets.. that wasn’t hip hop that was prison/gang culture.. who in nyc was screaming bloods prior to 98 in hip hop from ny.. like I said gang culture in ny wasn’t a product of the music… you from yonkers you don’t know about them 5 boroughs.. dmx help give your area shine.. lox didn’t even give ya enough shine b4 dmx

Let me ask you this. What music are these gang members listening to? Adele?

 

[tallblacknyc]

Let me ask you this. What music are these gang members listening to? Adele?

I guess black people only listen to a certain type of music.. do all serial killers listen to a certain type of music?


I’ve heard gang members listen to rnb, Michael Jackson, pop music, etc.. oh you thought allllll gang members listen to the same 5 songs like a bunch of sheep… do they all eat the same cereal, all use the same type of soap?

 

[TENT]

I guess black people only listen to a certain type of music.. do all serial killers listen to a certain type of music?


I’ve heard gang members listen to rnb, Michael Jackson, pop music, etc.. oh you thought allllll gang members listen to the same 5 songs like a bunch of sheep… do they all eat the same cereal, all use the same type of soap?

Ok and that is true.
However you know that their culture is complete HIP HOP and RAP.
Come on man.

Just cause you aren't influenced does not mean you cannot admit that others are!

You in NYC you see it. The dress, talk, actions and crime! You see it.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Ok and that is true.
However you know that their culture is complete HIP HOP and RAP.
Come on man.

Just cause you aren't influenced does not mean you cannot admit that others are!

You in NYC you see it. The dress, talk, actions and crime! You see it.

Nope some listen to diff music… you do know there are female gang members also they also could be listening to pop music… I first heard the baby shark song from a gang member.. is baby shark hip hop?

 

[TENT]

I am not saying some people don't listen to other music.
My point is they are IN hip hop culture and they listen to HIP HOP and that is what influence them.
They aren't running around acting like Adele and Britney Spears.
They aren't doing that shit.
They acting like RAPPERS.

You disagree?

Nope some listen to diff music… you do know there are female gang members also they also could be listening to pop music… I first heard the baby shark song from a gang member.. is baby shark hip hop?

 

[CptMARVEL]

I guess black people only listen to a certain type of music.. do all serial killers listen to a certain type of music?


I’ve heard gang members listen to rnb, Michael Jackson, pop music, etc.. oh you thought allllll gang members listen to the same 5 songs like a bunch of sheep… do they all eat the same cereal, all use the same type of soap?

Exactly.
It's like I pointed out earlier:

This sick, twisted motherfucker purposely shot and killed more Black people than most gangbangers or drug dealers and yet I can all but guarantee you he's NEVER listened to rap or hiphop a day in his pathetic life.

Likewise, this piece of shit killed 168 people (some whom were Black) during one event, and yet he didn't listen to rap nor hip hop either.

Lastly...

You wanna bet what type of music these assholes routinely listened to before crashing 747's into The Twin Towers...? (killing Blacks trapped in the towers, as well)
I'll lay odds that NWA, Tupac and Biggie weren't on their audio lists.
​

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

Then would you be so kind and PLEASE post it.
'Cuz I really wanna know...

Ok Walter, I already know you told HNIC already...knock it off

 

[CptMARVEL]

Ok Walter, I already know you told HNIC already...knock it off

Last chance.
I'll reissue the challange.

Put up or shut up...

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

Last chance.
I'll reissue the challange.

Put up or shut up...

No challenge at all. You are Blunt and that's that.

 

[CptMARVEL]

No challenge at all. You are Blunt and that's that.

I knew it.
Just more trolling...

 

[Dr. Truth]

How many Country singers are getting shot for singing about Trucks

 

[Temujin]

Hitler was playing Classical music during the holocaust.
Music can influence culture and culture can influence behavior but violence has been in our culture before music. America is a very violent place and has always been.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Hitler was playing Classical music during the holocaust.
Music can influence culture and culture can influence behavior but violence has been in our culture before music. America is a very violent place and has always been.

That’s not the same thing at all

 

[ZuluSam]

What is a trip to me is that the same people who will admit that rap can influence folk to buy Adidas instead of Puma, or Cristal instead of Freixenet; or take Percs and Molly (niggas ain't neva neva neva been big into pills before rap).....won't make the next logical conclusion that it can also influence a gangster mentality that leads to violence.

 

[ZuluSam]

And ya'll must have never heard about Drill rap.....where muhfuckas are literally killing each other and rapping about who they killed, how they killed them and shitting on the dead person in song withing days of the murder. Have ya'll muhfuckas ever heard about King Von???? Check out the youtube's...that shit is wild in how it chronicles the songs leading to direct killings from revenge and taunting about how many muhfuckas they killed in the other gang.....

 

[Dr. Truth]

And ya'll must have never heard about Drill rap.....where muhfuckas are literally killing each other and rapping about who they killed, how they killed them and shitting on the dead person in song withing days of the murder. Have ya'll muhfuckas ever heard about King Von???? Check out the youtube's...that shit is wild in how it chronicles the songs leading to direct killings from revenge and taunting about how many muhfuckas they killed in the other gang.....

What about that other little devil ass nigga Jo Jo. All them evil niggas rap about who they kill

 

[phanatic]

Hitler was playing Classical music during the holocaust.
Music can influence culture and culture can influence behavior but violence has been in our culture before music. America is a very violent place and has always been.

When a school shooting happens, politicians rush out to sat "this isn't America". Yes the fuck it is. You can't celebrate the founding of America, but be against violence.