Jay-Z Speaks On "Verzuz": "No One Can Stand On That Stage With Me"

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Last major tour was probably 2017.

The Future Hndrxx Tour is a headlining concert tour by American rapper, Future, in support of his eponymous album and his sixth studio album HNDRXX. The tour began in Milwaukee on July 8, 2017, and is set to conclude in London on October 23, 2017. Wikipedia
Dates: Jul 8, 2017 – Oct 23, 2017
No. of shows: 14 in North America; 12 in Europe; 2 in Africa; 2 in Oceania; 30 total
Associated album: FUTURE; HNDRXX




Comparing Jay-Z who rarely tours to someone that is always on tour is a bit disingenuous when comparing ticket prices.

Did Beyonce come with Jay-Z when he came to MB Stadium?


Hard knock life tour is why rappers could even tour.
 

thismybgolname

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Club dates vs arenas lol
Funny, the link I posted discredits what he was saying about venues and touring by himself.

Jay-Z has to tour with his more popular wife.

Hard knock life tour is why rappers could even tour.
I don't know if that is true or not but if true that doesn't negate the fact that multiple artists would compete and probably beat him in a Verzuz.

Lot of cats in here still got Jay Z posters on the wall right next to the hulk hogan 1s. You can tell.
Don't forget the white doo rag and wheat colored timbs. :lol:
 
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Last major tour was probably 2017.

The Future Hndrxx Tour is a headlining concert tour by American rapper, Future, in support of his eponymous album and his sixth studio album HNDRXX. The tour began in Milwaukee on July 8, 2017, and is set to conclude in London on October 23, 2017. Wikipedia
Dates: Jul 8, 2017 – Oct 23, 2017
No. of shows: 14 in North America; 12 in Europe; 2 in Africa; 2 in Oceania; 30 total
Associated album: FUTURE; HNDRXX




Comparing Jay-Z who rarely tours to someone that is always on tour is a bit disingenuous when comparing ticket prices.

Did Beyonce come with Jay-Z when he came to MB Stadium?

Answer, YES.

Jay-Z isn't selling out stadiums without the help of his more popular wife.

April 19th 2019 - Jay-Z performed at Webster Hall :lol:




My Guy here are the numbers for the 4:44 Tour in 2017
The 4:44 Tour was a concert tour by Jay-Z, in support of his thirteenth studio album 4:44 (2017). The tour began in Anaheim at the Honda Center on October 27, 2017, and concluded on December 21, 2017, in Inglewood at The Forum. Vic Mensa was the opening act for the whole tour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4:44_Tour


Here are the numbers for the Future Hndrxx Tour in 2017
Feat: Wizkid, Ty Dolla Sign, Post Malone, Zoey Dollaz, ASAP Ferg, YFN Lucci, Lil Yachty, and Rich the Kid were announced as opening acts of the tour.
Note: They got Wizkid as the first featured opening act who has a totally different demographic. Tell me again how Future did better tour numbers than Jay-Z. In my Jay-Z voice "Go kick a mumble rap somewhere else..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Hndrxx_Tour
 

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Funny, the link I posted discredits what he was saying about venues and touring by himself.

Jay-Z has to tour with his more popular wife.


I don't know if that is true or not but if true that doesn't negate the fact that multiple artists would compete and probably beat him in a Verzuz.


Don't forget the white doo rag and wheat colored timbs. :lol:
Bro why do you keep saying dumb shit?

Jigga has been on at least 10 different tours without his wife.

I'm thinking 4:44 tour. Magna Carter tour, the one with Kanye, the R Kelly one, one with Mary J. and others.

We get it you love Future
 

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My Guy here are the numbers for the 4:44 Tour in 2017
The 4:44 Tour was a concert tour by Jay-Z, in support of his thirteenth studio album 4:44 (2017). The tour began in Anaheim at the Honda Center on October 27, 2017, and concluded on December 21, 2017, in Inglewood at The Forum. Vic Mensa was the opening act for the whole tour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4:44_Tour
Jay-Z is a genius to have his artist open up for him.

You brought up tours, tell me where I said Future did better tour numbers than Jay-Z.

You stated Future wasn't doing arenas or stadiums and I posted a link that proved you were incorrect.

Better yet tell me how what you posted speaks to the numbers of their tours since you decided to bring it up, what specific numbers are you referring to?

Now you can look at the link I posted with their tours and you will see that the most recent tour for Jigga in a large venue was with his wife.

The concert you're referring to at MBZ Stadium was OTR II, Jay and Beyonce.

Here are the numbers for the Future Hndrxx Tour in 2017
Feat: Wizkid, Ty Dolla Sign, Post Malone, Zoey Dollaz, ASAP Ferg, YFN Lucci, Lil Yachty, and Rich the Kid were announced as opening acts of the tour.
Note: They got Wizkid as the first featured opening act who has a totally different demographic. Tell me again how Future did better tour numbers than Jay-Z. In my Jay-Z voice "Go kick a mumble rap somewhere else..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Hndrxx_Tour


They artists were at different shows and half the shows didn't have an opening act.
 

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Bro why do you keep saying dumb shit?
Only dumb to people that can't keep up or are blinded by their fitted.


Jigga has been on at least 10 different tours without his wife.

I'm thinking 4:44 tour. Magna Carter tour, the one with Kanye, the R Kelly one, one with Mary J. and others.


The man asked about Future tours and I posted a link of his last tour that was literally world wide.

The man also said Jay-Z was selling out Mercedez Benz stadium by himself (OTR II).



We get it you love Future
Seems like you just hate Future.


You continue to ignore those other three names that I throw out; Aubrey, Wayne and T-Pain.
 

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Seems like you just hate Future.


You continue to ignore those other three names that I throw out; Aubrey, Wayne and T-Pain.

jesus white christ i bet you sleep in a future tee like a teenage girl
ive already discussed those artist you mentioned several times already

briefly since you can only read things when the name future is written
drake is a superstar but he doesnt have a versus catologue...just isnt the kind of music to win battles
Ive said 5x Wayne would be the only legitimate challenger...but then i started looking at jay's catalogue and he'd trounce him
and didnt death of autotune already kill t-pain's entire career
stop being a bama, man
 

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jesus white christ i bet you sleep in a future tee like a teenage girl
ive already discussed those artist you mentioned several times already

briefly since you can only read things when the name future is written
drake is a superstar but he doesnt have a versus catologue...just isnt the kind of music to win battles
Ive said 5x Wayne would be the only legitimate challenger...but then i started looking at jay's catalogue and he'd trounce him
and didnt death of autotune already kill t-pain's entire career
stop being a bama, man
If you directed your comment and quoted me about those three to me then I missed it.

I disagree about those three. T-Pain might be a stretch.

I bet you look in the mirror and tell yourself that you’re jayz before you leave the house.
 

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So people are comparing an artist that debut album dropped in 1996 to an artist that debut dropped in 2012? And the question is who gets the most radio airplay now? That's like asking why Rapper's Delight wasn't getting more burn in 1996. I'm not comparing the artists just the era of radio play. They're different demographics at this point even if they're in the same genre. If the crowd is the judges in a verzuz, the demographic would play heavily. In a straight hip hop battle, I don't believe it's close.

 

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Jay-Z is a genius to have his artist open up for him.

You brought up tours, tell me where I said Future did better tour numbers than Jay-Z.

You stated Future wasn't doing arenas or stadiums and I posted a link that proved you were incorrect.

Better yet tell me how what you posted speaks to the numbers of their tours since you decided to bring it up, what specific numbers are you referring to?


Now you can look at the link I posted with their tours and you will see that the most recent tour for Jigga in a large venue was with his wife.

The concert you're referring to at MBZ Stadium was OTR II, Jay and Beyonce.




They artists were at different shows and half the shows didn't have an opening act.
Lets make it fair, name one single female artist Future can sell out MBZ Stadium with, I'll wait......

September 17, 2017 Future sold out Piedmont Park in Atlanta..... LMBAO
November 14, 2017 Jay-Z sold out Phillips Arena in Futures home town Atlanta.

Look at the Wiki pages it's all there....

Aubrey makes music for bitches, doesn't negate the amount of hits he has.

The younger generation knows Jay-Z as Beyonce husband, not HOV.

It's cool for Aubrey to make music for bitches by himself or with Rhianna but Jay-Z can't use his wife to make music for bitches???

I compared the year 2017 Jay-Z's solo tour without his wife to the same same year Future Hndrxx Tour. Jay-Z sold out all the venues listed with Vic Mensa. Jay-Z didn't need that whole supporting cast. Future has Amphitheater dates as venues, how he more popular than Jay-Z doing Amphitheater shows? Did you look @ the venues at all? Whats the average cost of a ticket at a amphitheater $25.99?

Last major tour was probably 2017.

The Future Hndrxx Tour is a headlining concert tour by American rapper, Future, in support of his eponymous album and his sixth studio album HNDRXX.

Jay-Z isn't selling out stadiums without the help of his more popular wife.

April 19th 2019 - Jay-Z performed at Webster Hall :lol:



Looks like all the dates on the 4:44 Tour sold out.

Funny, the link I posted discredits what he was saying about venues and touring by himself.

Jay-Z has to tour with his more popular wife.


I don't know if that is true or not but if true that doesn't negate the fact that multiple artists would compete and probably beat him in a Verzuz.


Don't forget the white doo rag and wheat colored timbs. :lol:

4:44 was a solo tour.


The Future Hndrxx Tour Notes[edit]
  1. ^ The concert of July 8, 2017 in Milwaukee at the American Family Insurance Amphitheater was a part of Summerfest.
  2. ^ The concert of July 14, 2017 in Lisbon at Parque das Nações is a part of Super Bock Super Rock.
  3. ^ The concert of August 5, 2017 in Toronto at Downsview Park is a part of VELD Music Festival.
  4. ^ The concert of September 16, 2017 in New York City at Citi Field is a part of The Meadows Music & Arts Festival.
  5. ^ The concert of September 17, 2017 in Atlanta at Piedmont Park is a part of Music Midtown.
  6. ^ The concert of September 23, 2017 in Melbourne at Catani Gardens is a part of Listen Out.
  7. ^ The concert of September 24, 2017 in Perth at HBF Stadium is a part of Listen Out.
  8. ^ The concert of October 10, 2017 in Trondheim at Elgeseter Gate 1 is a part of UKA.
  9. ^ The concert of September 30, 2017 in Sydney at Brazilian Fields at Centennial Park is a part of Listen Out.
  10. ^ The concert of October 1, 2017 in Brisbane at The Sporting Field at Victoria Park is a part of Listen Out.


I prefer the black durag with my wheat construction Timbs... Thank you!
 
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thismybgolname

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Lets make it fair, name one single female artist Future can sell out MBZ Stadium with, I'll wait......

Beyoncé




It's cool for Aubrey to make music for bitches by himself or with Rhianna but Jay-Z can't use his wife to make music for bitches???

Where did I say it was a problem?

If I’m Jay I’m having Beyoncé, Solonge and Blu on tour with me.


I compared the year 2017 Jay-Z's solo tour without his wife to the same same year Future Hndrxx Tour. Jay-Z sold out all the venues listed with Vic Mensa.



Jay-Z didn't need that whole supporting cast.
Future didn’t need those people


Future has Amphitheater dates as venues, how he more popular than Jay-Z doing Amphitheater shows?


Jayz doing halls, did you look at the link I sent?

Did you look @ the venues at all? Whats the average cost of a ticket at a amphitheater $25.99?
What is the average cost of Webster hall that jayz last played in?


I prefer the black durag with my wheat construction Timbs... Thank you!

You’re welcome.
 

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Neither Nas or Busta, both would be easily destroyed by Jay. Versus is all about hits and main stream hits of what people know. Nas nor Busta don't have enough. It's Kanye and Drake and Wayne and that's it. I only say maybe KDot because he's popular enough but doesn't have enough mainstream hits...

I’m going to have to disagree with you on this one after watching the Lox vs Dipset there was no way you could convince me that Lox would crush Dipset. Nas vs Jay at MSG it would be toss up, Nas can perform 4 tracks off Illmatic alone, he can bring out Rae and Ghost for Verbal intercourse, he can bring out AZ, Lauryn Hill, Ludacris, Damien Marley and Main Source. Stop sleeping on Nas is all Im saying cuz as long as it’s in NYC he has a chance.
 

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I’m going to have to disagree with you on this one after watching the Lox vs Dipset there was no way you could convince me that Lox would crush Dipset. Nas vs Jay at MSG it would be toss up, Nas can perform 4 tracks off Illmatic alone, he can bring out Rae and Ghost for Verbal intercourse, he can bring out AZ, Lauryn Hill, Ludacris, Damien Marley and Main Source. Stop sleeping on Nas is all Im saying cuz as long as it’s in NYC he has a chance.
Dipset wack ass shit. Anybody thought they were winning was lying to themselves
 

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I'll say this. The fact that there's such a hot debate on social media about this tells you the impact he has. Dude is virtually a ghost on social media & can get this type of response is telling. I doubt any of the artists that have been brought forward would get the same reaction with the same claim. Mainly because I doubt people would take them serious. Didn't Future claim to be bigger than Jay-Z recently or something along those lines? Did it trend at all?
 

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I'll say this. The fact that there's such a hot debate on social media about this tells you the impact he has. Dude is virtually a ghost on social media & can get this type of response is telling. I doubt any of the artists that have been brought forward would get the same reaction with the same claim. Mainly because I doubt people would take them serious. Didn't Future claim to be bigger than Jay-Z recently or something along those lines? Did it trend at all?
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Beyoncé

Where did I say it was a problem?

If I’m Jay I’m having Beyoncé, Solonge and Blu on tour with me.

Future didn’t need those people

Jayz doing halls, did you look at the link I sent?


What is the average cost of Webster hall that jayz last played in?



You’re welcome.

That beverage you’re drinking that has you talking crazy. Do you need 2 foam cups and some of that sprite to drink it?

You took the bait on my female artist question. Of course that answer was only gonna be Beyoncé.

Futures biggest shows/venues that year were all part of some sort of Festival. Future does need all those people to fill bigger venues. Future did not hit the State Farm arena that year but Jay did. How many festival dates did Jay play that year????


So you wanna fuck with old people about Webster Hall? Back in our Black Durag, football Jersey and Construction Timb days, Webster Hall was the spot that held the best parties and impromptu shows. The Jigga man’s show was an intimate B-sides show for the grand reopening of the theatre after renovations. Let’s do some math. $250 x 1500= $375,000. We could say after merch sales and the take at the bar he made over $500,000 in that small venue, not bad for a Webster Hall show. Smarten Up Mumble Rapping Future fan.

https://www.stereogum.com/2039787/jay-z-webster-hall-tickets/news/
The capacity in Webster Hall’s grand ballroom is 1,500. The one time I went to a show there while visiting NYC from Ohio, it was American Football’s reunion tour with S. Carey opening. That’s the scale the venue normally operates at. The chance to see Shawn Carter in that intimate of a space is rare and special. However, it bears noting that just as Webster doesn’t usually host artists as massive as Jay-Z, it also doesn’t usually charge this much for tickets. According to the venue site, prices range from $250 to $399. Tickets go on sale this Friday, 4/19 at 11AM ET, with a limited number available to American Express members on Thursday, 4/18 from 10AM to 10PM. Best of luck, rich Jay-Z fans!
 

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That beverage you’re drinking that has you talking crazy. Do you need 2 foam cups and some of that sprite to drink it?

Dude that beverage I was drinking was after I posted everything I wrote except that comment.

I don't do drugs and don't worry about what is in my cup.

Futures biggest shows/venues that year were all part of some sort of Festival. Future does need all those people to fill bigger venues. Future did not hit the State Farm arena that year but Jay did. How many festival dates did Jay play that year????

What difference does that matter?

Did you click the link I posted that showed his tour doing shows at O2 arena during his world wide tour?

Future had a tour already lined up that year that was in multiple countries.



So you wanna fuck with old people about Webster Hall? Back in our Black Durag, football Jersey and Construction Timb days, Webster Hall was the spot that held the best parties and impromptu shows.


The Jigga man’s show was an intimate B-sides show for the grand reopening of the theatre after renovations. Let’s do some math. $250 x 1500= $375,000. We could say after merch sales and the take at the bar he made over $500,000 in that small venue, not bad for a Webster Hall show. Smarten Up Mumble Rapping Future fan.
Pointing out the hypocrisy in your statement about seating capacity at a venue with Jigga performing at a hall.


https://www.stereogum.com/2039787/jay-z-webster-hall-tickets/news/
The capacity in Webster Hall’s grand ballroom is 1,500. The one time I went to a show there while visiting NYC from Ohio, it was American Football’s reunion tour with S. Carey opening. That’s the scale the venue normally operates at. The chance to see Shawn Carter in that intimate of a space is rare and special. However, it bears noting that just as Webster doesn’t usually host artists as massive as Jay-Z, it also doesn’t usually charge this much for tickets. According to the venue site, prices range from $250 to $399. Tickets go on sale this Friday, 4/19 at 11AM ET, with a limited number available to American Express members on Thursday, 4/18 from 10AM to 10PM. Best of luck, rich Jay-Z fans!

Great business man but the venue only seats 1500, which is far less than Piedmont Park.
 

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Depends on the set up in my opinion...

Commercial success there are few that could stand up to Jay from HIS era... these newer cats like Wayne, Drake... they could go hit for hit with him but that to me is almost the Jordan/LeBron debate... there's kids out there that only know Jordan for shoes and being crossed up by Iverson... it's probably kids out there that mainly know Jay as Beyonce's husband... a bit extreme I know, but still... when was Jay last solo hit song??

I think DMX could have done it because that cat was SCORCHING hot when he first came out... and he had Commercial success as well, so that would have been interesting... old Kanye could get him and with that I'd wonder, does Jay leave Kanye produced tracks off the hit list? Em to me doesn't stand a chance because his Commercial success, other than Stan or Sing for the Moment was just too bubble gum for me... and I'm a Eminem fan, even I see that...

Now if we're talking just from a hip hop perspective...Face could get him... I say it all the time, Scarface is your favorite rapper's FAVORITE RAPPER.
 

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Depends on the set up in my opinion...

Commercial success there are few that could stand up to Jay from HIS era... these newer cats like Wayne, Drake... they could go hit for hit with him but that to me is almost the Jordan/LeBron debate... there's kids out there that only know Jordan for shoes and being crossed up by Iverson... it's probably kids out there that mainly know Jay as Beyonce's husband... a bit extreme I know, but still... when was Jay last solo hit song??

I think DMX could have done it because that cat was SCORCHING hot when he first came out... and he had Commercial success as well, so that would have been interesting... old Kanye could get him and with that I'd wonder, does Jay leave Kanye produced tracks off the hit list? Em to me doesn't stand a chance because his Commercial success, other than Stan or Sing for the Moment was just too bubble gum for me... and I'm a Eminem fan, even I see that...

Now if we're talking just from a hip hop perspective...Face could get him... I say it all the time, Scarface is your favorite rapper's FAVORITE RAPPER.
We saw DMX lose to Snoop Dogg. Now that isn't it bro
 
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