Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode
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Yeah but comparatively speaking its like Gilbert Arenas saying something critical about how LeBron James needs to step up his game..like seriously nigga??? based on what in your shortened career can make you say that???
Budden is speaking from his platform and his experience as a rapper himself...sooo what in buddens career tells him that he can speak to what someone whose career is by orders of magnitude more successful than his was or could have hoped to have been? A guy that flunked out of community college is telling a guy with a Ph.D from NYU he's doing it wrong....consider the source.
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Don't know why I take it personal when I hear " Joe has only one song "
its not that deep
they been havin beef
drake threw few shots at joe
thats what they do
Beef is one thing,
They throw shots back n forth now
But where was this smoke for Pusha?
Where was this smoke for Kendrick?
Joe started and ended by saying he liked the album, he told the fans happy Drake Day and he said he listened to it 3 times and he's gonna spend the next few days listening to it more. The whole segment was a legit 20+ minutes.
he made 3 main critiques;
stay away from yachty and young rappers (you're 36 you shouldn't be rapping like you're 25 especially since the hunger is not there),
don't do a track with J Cole if you're not gonna bar it up (Drake was sing songy on the initial track, but once Cole was gone and the beat flipped then he wanted to rap......nah playa) and finally sound hungry or inspired again.
Take this time off to see if you can find your passion for actually trying to rap again, this album seemed uninspired and as if Drake was just going through the motions. (And maybe he is since he's been releasing stuff every year.)
Did those 3 criticisms deserve the response he received? Hell no
successful artists have always hated critics tho.. those who cant...become critics. How many successful movies did ebert and siskel ever make?
those two were revered film critics that people listened to for actual guidance in what to like in a movie.. meanwhile scorsese is an actual successful filmmaker with a diversity of movies under his belt and his criticism of the new generation of filmmakers is met with derision and anger..
The people who've done nothing by way of movie making can have an opinion
the one person who can actually criticize from a position of success and authority is told to sit the hell down
he tried to bait kendrick tho
but pusha is going to smoke him
but he just dont like joe so everything joe says he is going to take it like that
and u know how joe move he think he slick
he will say something positive to then shit on u
i mean the comments he made if i had issue with joe
and he said that about me i would be pissed off too
u basically saying im old and lazy and my music is shit
This makes no sense
So if Joe can't give his opinion, then what can the fans say? So I can't say your shit sucks and you make maxi pad music?
This is why we live in participation trophy era, where people can't fail or handle criticism.
True but personally I think all
This is just good publicity for both sides
exactly
so no was can give a critical opinion unless they have achieved the same level of success.
so no one in history can tell Jeff Bezos shit
no coach can say anything to LeBron if they haven't broken the points records
i think its dangerous when ppl think they are beyond reproach. anyone can learn something from others
even a so called failure can provide a cautionary tale to others
Joe can give his opinion but he put sauce on it and got the reaction he wanted. Someone is already said it but Joe also does this passive aggressive shit where he's really shitting on you but tries to say other nice things so he can't be called a hater. Talking about JCole's verse was Joe's opportunity to shit on someone he doesn't fuck with. Had he left it at I'd like to hear a mature Drake or said this seemed like hes losing interest no one takes issue with his opinion
The other factor is their history and honestly Joe's career as a rapper. The other side of this is Joe has always been vocal about his thoughts on rappers and his thoughts on the current album seems to be alot of people's opinion. I'm not believing the I'm a Drake fan talk though.
Side note. Is Ice the weak link on the pod? He constantly gives off the trying to fit in vibe and either tries to be contrary, pandering or dickrides. Most of his thoughts don't seem genuine.
Let's not act like artists can't be sensitive about their shit. If Joe's entitled to his opinion so is Drake.
You can have an opinion. But you also have to realize when your opinion isn't applicable. Joe's issues are valid. That's the reason why I don't like this album and haven't liked a Drake album in at least 10 years. But I've realized a while ago he doesn't make music for me anymore. But Joe gotta pod, so instead of saying the latter (he even said Drake's rapping for the children), he's gonna dedicate a segment to it.
I remember a bunch of Lil Uzi Vert fans saying the album before his latest one was trash and that he fell off. When he dropped his latest album, those same fans were saying "He's back."
I'm like both those albums sound trash to me and I couldn't tell you the difference. I can tell you what a good Nas album is, or what a good Griselda album is. I can't tell you what a good Lil Yachty album is or a good NBA Young Boy album is because I don't like that style of rap off the rip. So if a nigga asks me what you think of Lil So and So album, Imma be like that's not my style of rap so I couldn't tell you.
You can have an opinion. But you also have to realize when your opinion isn't applicable. Joe's issues are valid. That's the reason why I don't like this album and haven't liked a Drake album in at least 10 years. But I've realized a while ago he doesn't make music for me anymore. But Joe gotta pod, so instead of saying the latter (he even said Drake's rapping for the children), he's gonna dedicate a segment to it.
I remember a bunch of Lil Uzi Vert fans saying the album before his latest one was trash and that he fell off. When he dropped his latest album, those same fans were saying "He's back."
I'm like both those albums sound trash to me and I couldn't tell you the difference. I can tell you what a good Nas album is, or what a good Griselda album is. I can't tell you what a good Lil Yachty album is or a good NBA Young Boy album is because I don't like that style of rap off the rip. So if a nigga asks me what you think of Lil So and So album, Imma be like that's not my style of rap so I couldn't tell you.
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A straight fan with an opinion is one thing. But a person who did what your doing and failed at it...then speaks as if they know better?? Cmon homie
Now should drake have responded like that?? Probably not..but it's rapper shit...it's egos..what the hell else they gonna do
If I recall LL did the same thing with canibus on the 4321 joint.
A straight fan with an opinion is one thing. But a person who did what your doing and failed at it...then speaks as if they know better?? Cmon homie
Now should drake have responded like that?? Probably not..but it's rapper shit...it's egos..what the hell else they gonna do
If I recall LL did the same thing with canibus on the 4321 joint.
How did he fail at it?
Because he didn't sell 20 million albums?
Joe was successful. Put out plenty of music and had a fanbase that supported him.
Most importantly he knows actual lyricism.
This is silly shit like how the chain moves with sports criticisms. First it was, athletes can do it, then it became you have to be a certain caliber. Then it became you have to be a champion.
and this is why we get bad music and half ass rushed projects.
Even the public act like yes men and want to coddle people.
Your shit is wack, do better.
I bet the shit would be different if people actually had to spend their $15, time and gas to purchase these albums like back in the 90's. Now, it's well we didn't really pay for it anyway.
Even the public act like yes men and want to coddle people.
Your shit is wack, do better.
I bet the shit would be different if people actually had to spend their $15, time and gas to purchase these albums like back in the 90's. Now, it's well we didn't really pay for it anyway.
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exactly i said that.
he talks like he is in the crib with homies
thats exact the reason he got punch by wu
u are not wrong but this case he was being an ass
He failed because he's a Podcaster today...you don't quit something thats working for you... put it this way...if Budden was making the same type if money as a rapper that he makes as a Podcaster he'd still be rapping today. Then he could lead by example of how an older rapper with 20+ years in should carry themselves.
As for the championship stuff... the point is of you're a person whose played your criticism carries more weight than a civilian. BUT if you're not a champion then you can't speak on what it means to move in that space..you've never done it.
This is why Shaq checks barkley all the time. It's immature the way he does it but his point is valid..a person whose never won a ring can't talk confidently about how to move in that space. That's what he means by g-14 classification.
So budden talking about how drake needs to do anything at this point in his career means nothing since buddens has never had to move in that space and therefore doesn't really know what it means to maintain at that level.
How many records have you sold?
All tri of all
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I'll disagree. Are Cam'ron, Mase, Nore, TI or Fat Joe failed rappers? They've all had or have podcast that came after the high point of their career. You have other rappers who actively rapped and have been actors.
I do somewhat agree with Joe not being able to see the field the same way as Drake. That doesn't make Joe wrong though. You need coaches as much as you need players. More often than not, the coach has never done it especially on the level as the star player. If Drake had Joe giving him true feedback as the album was being developed, maybe Drake gets a better album.
none of those people have criticized drake have they?? As far as the coaching analogy there are MANY superstar players who in many cases disregard the coaches advice on a play and many who don't really respect them for the very things listed you mentioned.
Understand rappers and other creatives have fanbases that support them in whatever they produce....as such their more likely to take their cues from people who support them rather than those that clearly dont.
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