Just watched BLACK PANTHER and.......

[lazarus]

well then

Kill monger was right about wakanda's absence from injustice being done. That said, doing more of the same just makes you them. You need to empower youth and even the playing field with jobs and opportunity, and also change the mind fuck in many of us. You need diplomacy and self serving interest in your own community. Own banks, movies, etc, while still making it available to everyone else to be legit and pc. Get back, as good as it might feel, won't do it. Tchalla and his lineage of kings failed at this. The window to engage in war has passed. World is too global now. The true way was a mix of them both.

 

[TimRock]

well then

Kill monger was right about wakanda's absence from injustice being done. That said, doing more of the same just makes you them. You need to empower youth and even the playing field with jobs and opportunity, and also change the mind fuck in many of us. You need diplomacy and self serving interest in your own community. Own banks, movies, etc, while still making it available to everyone else to be legit and pc. Get back, as good as it might feel, won't do it. Tchalla and his lineage of kings failed at this. The true way was a mix of them both.

both had a point, but i dont think the previous kings failed at anything. The people of Wakanda were doing pretty damn well. I forgot who said it, but, if they had gone along with Killmongers way, the same problems the rest of the world faced, would have been brought into Wakanda. Why open yourself up for hate, war, racism, poverty, etc. Yeah, they doing good with their own little thing and it might be a bit selfish, but sometimes you have to be that way in order to survive. Unfortunately, we weren't all created equal or the same, so some are gonna have to suffer because of that. They have everything they need and want in Wakanda. They don't need the outside world for anything. Let people keep thinking they are just some 3rd world country. Don't make other peoples problems your own. But seeing it from Killmongers POV, as he was cast out, i can see why he would want to make these changes. But like they say, you make change and you open yourself up to a world of negative shit.

 

[meilmarc]

Once again Okoye was a great Character. Glad to see her with the other Avengers during that Money Shot in the Infinity War trailer.

M'Baku is also in formation behind Black Panther in the Infinity War trailer also.

 

[cincitystudios]

For me, the mountaintop was Winter Soldier. Everything else was debatable, but Winter Soldier was Marvel's best movie...

Up until now.

I liked civil war a lot better than winter soldier. this beats those right now. gotta sit wit it for a while

 

[lazarus]

both had a point, but i dont think the previous kings failed at anything. The people of Wakanda were doing pretty damn well. I forgot who said it, but, if they had gone along with Killmongers way, the same problems the rest of the world faced, would have been brought into Wakanda. Why open yourself up for hate, war, racism, poverty, etc. Yeah, they doing good with their own little thing and it might be a bit selfish, but sometimes you have to be that way in order to survive. Unfortunately, we weren't all created equal or the same, so some are gonna have to suffer because of that. They have everything they need and want in Wakanda. They don't need the outside world for anything. Let people keep thinking they are just some 3rd world country. Don't make other peoples problems your own. But seeing it from Killmongers POV, as he was cast out, i can see why he would want to make these changes. But like they say, you make change and you open yourself up to a world of negative shit.

You do realize that mindset is similar to the super rich in Africa and kings of the past, right? Extremely selfish and it's your people being treated badly. In that regard, they failed because they didn't lift a finger. You can support causes without being tracked back, especially in this day and age. Third, fourth, fifth party. Wakanda can still be a secret.

 

[exiledking]

T'Challa wasn't born with power of the Black Panther - and it appears no one is given the heart shaped herb at birth...

at some point in this story his father and the priests had to find him worthy and gave it to him...

In the Marvel version - T'Challa didn't get the heart shaped herb or become Panther until he defeated his uncle during the challenge

Alright now THAT makes sense. I assume once your King you can walk around with the powers and you only take a potion to cut it, just so your test can be on equal terms with the tester. Since he lost he shouldn't have had them powers

 

[exiledking]

Who in da fuk is this Becky loving fool???? Why are we giving him views???

Cuz it was funny and he made a few point. But then again thepoonts he made are just basic plot holes that happen in all these superhero worlds, which is why I generally don't watch. But it is true that the only test to be king involves fighting. No wisdom, no test of mind power, nothin. And okoye stuck with the new King, out of loyalty to the throne, whilethe queen, Nakia, and whoever,just dashed away years of tradition just because their boy lost. That was whack. The fact that he came in and won, and that made him King, with NO other tests, in the most tech savvy place on the world , is a huge hole. They caved in on their own rules a lot.

 

[exiledking]

You do realize that mindset is similar to the super rich in Africa and kings of the past, right? Extremely selfish and it's your people being treated badly. In that regard, they failed because they didn't lift a finger. You can support causes without being tracked back, especially in this day and age. Third, fourth, fifth party. Wakanda can still be a secret.

One of the reasons I love movies like this is so people can look at these worlds they make up and examine how people view things. Your point is very valid.

 

[PliggaNease]

Me and the wife both enjoyed the hell out of this flick and I will definitely see it again.

Shuri was the MVP of this movie with her impeccable comedic timing. I died when she recorded her brother getting knocked across the room by the suit and he's yelling "delete that!" And the "colonizer" line was just classic! I wanna see her and Tony Stark in the same room.

Okoye was a bad ass as well. I was done when she threw her wig in that dude's face before kicking his ass.

Killmonger was definitely one of Marvel's best villians.

They knocked it out of the park on this one.

 

[ViCiouS]

Alright now THAT makes sense. I assume once your King you can walk around with the powers and you only take a potion to cut it, just so your test can be on equal terms with the tester. Since he lost he shouldn't have had them powers

challenge only ends by death or surrender... T'Challa did neither...
thats why Okye kept saying the challenge must continue cause Killmonger can't be king unless T'Challa died or surrendered

 

[ViCiouS]

hilethe queen, Nakia, and whoever,just dashed away years of tradition just because their boy lost. That was whack.

the plot didn't explain this well... they ran because they are threats to the throne (except Nakia)... royal blood of one of the tribes can challenge, no matter male or female. (Suri and the Queen could challenge)
Killmonger only had one tribal chief as ally and its implied he would have killed off all the chiefs eventually

In the real world... if a king is killed or dies and an opposing regime takes power, direct blood line and supporters of the dead king flee, failing that they get killed off

 

[grownazzblakman]

If you remember the Killmonger said he wanted to be BP AND King. So the two were separate roles. That means T'challa father was King and he was the BP.

This...

Remember in Civil War T'Challa explains it perfectly...

"Your suit, it's vibranium?
"The Black Panther has been a protector of Wakanda for generations. A mantle passed from warrior to warrior. Now because your friend murdered my father, I also wear the mantle of king. So I ask you, as both warrior and king, how long do you think you can keep your friend safe from me?"
―T'Challa and Steve Rogers

T'Challa wasn't born with power of the Black Panther - and it appears no one is given the heart shaped herb at birth...

at some point in this story his father and the priests had to find him worthy and gave it to him...

In the Marvel version - T'Challa didn't get the heart shaped herb or become Panther until he defeated his uncle during the challenge

Alright now THAT makes sense. I assume once your King you can walk around with the powers and you only take a potion to cut it, just so your test can be on equal terms with the tester. Since he lost he shouldn't have had them powers

challenge only ends by death or surrender... T'Challa did neither...
thats why Okye kept saying the challenge must continue cause Killmonger can't be king unless T'Challa died or surrendered

Assist. Just to clarify...

The Black Panther is not necessarily the King of Wakanda... However, the Black Panther is USUALLY also the King.
The Black Panther is the 'Protector of Wakanda'... while The King of Wakanda is the 'Political Monarch'.

Correct, they are 2 different roles.

- Someone can be the King.
- And someone else can be the Black Panther.
- But usually they are 'one in the same'.
- Keyword: Usually (but not always. )

For example: the character Shuri was created by Reginald Hudlin in 2005, back when he was writing the comic book.

During Hudlin's BP run, Shuri becomes the Queen of Wakanda for awhile when her brother T'Challa is mortally wounded. (by Dr. Doom, I think ) But initially, she was NOT the Black Panther at the same time.

The ritual to become Black Panther involves members of the Wakandan 'ruling family' ingesting the heart-shaped herb to enhance their abilities. When they did this, The Panther G0d (Bast) would then grant them 'superhuman abilities'.

However, the very FIRST time when Shuri ate the heart-shaped herb... Bast REFUSED to grant her the powers of the Black Panther.

Because at first, Bast thought Shuri was too arrogant & selfish... and had always been jealous of her brother’s position, so Bast deemed her 'unworthy' & denied her.

However, Shuri proved the Panther God wrong... by wearing the Panther outfit while her brother was still recovering... and fighting for her people anyway.

Afterwards, Bast deemed her willingness to fight as the Panther (without all of the superhuman abilities) a 'selfless act' ... and reversed the decision... and bestowed upon her all the powers of the Black Panther.

This means that T'Challa was still the Black Panther (even tho he was badly injured)... while Shuri ruled Wakanda, as Queen.

So yes, IT IS possible for T'Chaka to be the King of Wakanda in Captain America: Civil War... while his son T'Challa is the Black Panther, at the same time.

Agreed, they are 2 separate roles.

 

[exiledking]

the plot didn't explain this well... they ran because they are threats to the throne (except Nakia)... royal blood of one of the tribes can challenge, no matter male or female. (Suri and the Queen could challenge)
Killmonger only had one tribal chief as ally and its implied he would have killed off all the chiefs eventually

In the real world... if a king is killed or dies and an opposing regime takes power, direct blood line and supporters of the dead king flee, failing that they get killed off

Nakia isn't blood though is she? But she ran. And why would they think that - I dunno. This place was supposed to be so utopian. I assume people would honor the winner of the test.

 

[exiledking]

challenge only ends by death or surrender... T'Challa did neither...
thats why Okye kept saying the challenge must continue cause Killmonger can't be king unless T'Challa died or surrendered

She didn't know he wasn't dead. That's why she supposedly honored the new King even though she hated him

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Gotta keep one-thow-wow...had to keep from crying at the end.

 

[grownazzblakman]

Notice: These box-office predictions went up by $7 to $10 million since yesterday Morning.

Weekend Box Office: 'Black Panther' Eyes Record-Shattering $205M-Plus Debut

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...her-leaps-huge-252m-thursday-previews-1085462

Friday Feb. 16, 8:21 AM: Disney and Marvel Studios' Black Panther is making history at the U.S. box office, where it's pacing to take in $205 million or more over the long Presidents Day weekend after earning a rare A+ CinemaScore from audiences.

The tentpole's projected Friday haul is a mighty $70 million-plus, including $25.2 million in Thursday evening previews. Since it's so early in the game, Disney insiders are erring on the side of caution in projecting a $190 million-$205 million domestic weekend.

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‘Black Panther’ Poised To Slash ‘Avengers: Age Of Ultron’ 4-Day Haul With $212M+

http://deadline.com/2018/02/black-panther-thursday-night-preview-box-office-1202291093/

Friday Feb. 16, 8:58PM: By the time the four-day President’s Day holiday stretch ends, Black Panther will have surpassed many of Marvel and DC’s mightiest on the all-time domestic B.O. openers chart. Black Panther is now looking at the 6th best opening of all-time on a 3-day basis with an estimated $185.4M per industry projections and a mind-blowing $212.1M over four days.

We hear from Screen Engine/ComScore that PostTrak is showing that 40% of Black Panther‘s ticket sales are being driven by African American moviegoers.

 

[Mr.Bizkits]

Dope ass film, one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen!

My only discrepancy was the casting and the throwback to 92’ should have had Forest Whitaker’s character and T’callas Dad looking much younger in the present time.

 

[Tha Great Muta]

Notice: These box-office predictions went up by $7 to $10 million since yesterday Morning.

Weekend Box Office: 'Black Panther' Eyes Record-Shattering $205M-Plus Debut

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...her-leaps-huge-252m-thursday-previews-1085462

Friday Feb. 16, 8:21 AM: Disney and Marvel Studios' Black Panther is making history at the U.S. box office, where it's pacing to take in $205 million or more over the long Presidents Day weekend after earning a rare A+ CinemaScore from audiences.

The tentpole's projected Friday haul is a mighty $70 million-plus, including $25.2 million in Thursday evening previews. Since it's so early in the game, Disney insiders are erring on the side of caution in projecting a $190 million-$205 million domestic weekend.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

‘Black Panther’ Poised To Slash ‘Avengers: Age Of Ultron’ 4-Day Haul With $212M+

http://deadline.com/2018/02/black-panther-thursday-night-preview-box-office-1202291093/

Friday Feb. 16, 8:58PM: By the time the four-day President’s Day holiday stretch ends, Black Panther will have surpassed many of Marvel and DC’s mightiest on the all-time domestic B.O. openers chart. Black Panther is now looking at the 6th best opening of all-time on a 3-day basis with an estimated $185.4M per industry projections and a mind-blowing $212.1M over four days.

We hear from Screen Engine/ComScore that PostTrak is showing that 40% of Black Panther‘s ticket sales are being driven by African American moviegoers.

Movie is way better than age of ultron

 

[grownazzblakman]

Dope ass film, one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen!

My only discrepancy was the casting and the throwback to 92’ should have had Forest Whitaker’s character and T’callas Dad looking much younger in the present time.

Umm... John Kani plays T'Chaka. He is 76 years old.
His own son (in real life) Atandwa Kani played the YOUNGER VERSION of him.

Atandwa is 33 years old. in real life.

You cannot get more accurate than that.

Forrest Whitaker is 56 years old.
Denzel Whitaker plays the YOUNGER VERSION of him.

Denzel Whitaker is 28 years old. in real life.

Who exactly... did you want to 'look younger'? I'm lost.

 

[creepin]

It was great seeing all that beauty on the screen!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Oakland California 1992 I could've been hooping with Erik killmonger .

That alone.

A ton to unpack I will tomorrow but let me say that man ape was perfectly adapted and needs more time.
The best part is that gender roles didn't matter. If you smart or a dope fighter then you do your thing.

No mvp in this one too many star performances

The one thing I'll say before I go to bed is

Villains make the movie and Erik killmonger was among the best to do it period.

From scene 1 the presence the attitude
The determination the execution the planning


Just food for thought. He linked up with claw for the sole purpose of killing him and claw never saw it coming. And then proceeded to become the interim King of wakanda that same mf day.

Who else could have done that?

Ask me who I am???

 

[Mr.Bizkits]

Umm... John Kani plays T'Chaka. He is 76 years old.
His own son (in real life) Atandwa Kani played the YOUNGER VERSION of him.

Atandwa is 33 years old. in real life.

You cannot get more accurate than that.

Forrest Whitaker is 56 years old.
Denzel Whitaker plays the YOUNGER VERSION of him.

Denzel Whitaker is 28 years old. in real life.

Who exactly... did you want to 'look younger'? I'm lost.

Well shit I stand corrected. I didn’t know that was Forest Whitaker’s son.

 

[grownazzblakman]

Well shit I stand corrected. I didn’t know that was Forest Whitaker’s son.

Actually, you not all wrong.

He's not Forest Whitaker's son... in real life.

But years ago, he used to be listed as 'Forest Whitaker's Son'... on his IMDB page.
But it was corrected... when he got a role in that movie called "The Great Debaters".

Ironically, Forest Whitaker actually played his Father in that movie.



Sshhheeeiittt... He is the 'spitting image' of Forest Whitaker, tho.
They certainly look like Father & Son.

 

[hog fat]

 

[dasailr03]

To answer ur first question he went back after his father was killed, got the powers and suit then because in BP at the ceremony they showed his powers get taken away FIRST, then restored afterwards, so u have to assume he already had the powers in the middle of civil war

Now this makes more sense to me!!! I can work with BP from this perspective. Your right. i forgot about this part, they did take away his powers first, which means he was already BP in CACW. Appreciate the understanding.

 

[dasailr03]

If you remember the Killmonger said he wanted to be BP AND King. So the two were separate roles. That means T'challa father was King and he was the BP.

Good point, you right also. I missed that distinction. This makes sense also.

 

[dasailr03]

"Hey Auntie."

- Eric Killmonger

Yeah I liked his lines. Dude is a beast as a villain. He was spitting straight up hot fiya. Really up his game. He was saying shit like someone would say for real, fuck all that super powers shit.Let's be real. He wanted that #1 spot and put everybody on notice in straight up language!! I laugh my ass off at that line. Some real fam shit!! Heeeeyy Auntie!!!

 

[dasailr03]

both had a point, but i dont think the previous kings failed at anything. The people of Wakanda were doing pretty damn well. I forgot who said it, but, if they had gone along with Killmongers way, the same problems the rest of the world faced, would have been brought into Wakanda. Why open yourself up for hate, war, racism, poverty, etc. Yeah, they doing good with their own little thing and it might be a bit selfish, but sometimes you have to be that way in order to survive. Unfortunately, we weren't all created equal or the same, so some are gonna have to suffer because of that. They have everything they need and want in Wakanda. They don't need the outside world for anything. Let people keep thinking they are just some 3rd world country. Don't make other peoples problems your own. But seeing it from Killmongers POV, as he was cast out, i can see why he would want to make these changes. But like they say, you make change and you open yourself up to a world of negative shit.

I agree with both points. I think wakanda did the right thing. when Iron Man announced he was iron man, shit has been real from his from day one. He opened himself up to a larger world and what has he gained? Now it appears that Wankda will fall to the same issue. Once the world see what they have, there will be consequences from exposing who they really are and watch the REAL disruption of Wankanda begins. I'd protect my own first and foremost. Just my 0.02 tho.

 

[dasailr03]

You do realize that mindset is similar to the super rich in Africa and kings of the past, right? Extremely selfish and it's your people being treated badly. In that regard, they failed because they didn't lift a finger. You can support causes without being tracked back, especially in this day and age. Third, fourth, fifth party. Wakanda can still be a secret.

and how is that different that what people/organization are doing now? No matter once you slice it, there will always be consequences that follow. regardless if your up front or in the background pulling strings, manipulation is still manipulation. Support a cause in secret because you believe it it , doesn't mean you escape the consequences of your actions, you simply may not be held accountable but your actions will have real world effects.

 

[LSN]

It was great seeing all that beauty on the screen!

maaan them getting ready to celebrate t’challa as king the first time around was damn near a heart-stopping moment

 

[LSN]

LOL!

 

[LSN]

Yeah I liked his lines. Dude is a beast as a villain. He was spitting straight up hot fiya. Really up his game. He was saying shit like someone would say for real, fuck all that super powers shit.Let's be real. He wanted that #1 spot and put everybody on notice in straight up language!! I laugh my ass off at that line. Some real fam shit!! Heeeeyy Auntie!!!

he played the character w/ great intensity...as someone mentioned in one of these threads the vulture in spider-man homecoming is the only other MCU character that had such a defined purpose (strengthened by a superb actor playing the role) and wasn’t a cliche bad guy that you’re automatically supposed to hate...I need to buy a collection of these MCU flicks in 4K...the last 2 iron man flicks and the previous thor joints have been the only weak spots...these shits really bring out the kid in me

 

[shamone]

Alright now THAT makes sense. I assume once your King you can walk around with the powers and you only take a potion to cut it, just so your test can be on equal terms with the tester. Since he lost he shouldn't have had them powers

he never yield, and was not killed. that was the technicality.

 

[D'Evils]

 

[stizz3000]

Saw it tonight in fuckin 4d. Accidentally bought 4d tickets. Felt like I was on a roller coaster..gettin sprayed with mist and shit....but it was all good. Shit was dope!!!!!!

Lupita looks so good!!!