Just watched BLACK PANTHER and.......

[playahaitian]

I m so glad that they didn t add any gay shit to this movie

I HATE to be the one to tell you....

 

[El Guapo]

Zack Snyder has sunk the D.C. ship. He is coming up with the stories and all that shit and honestly he just ain't in his element and nobody gonna tell him Watchmen was the anomaly, not the norm for him and nobody will tell him that.

Wonder Woman's score that the film got stuck with underlies everything about Zack Snyder.

Every major move that Zack made in MOS, BvS, and JL has its foundation and/or direct correlation in DC Comics. He really didn't re-invent the wheel or even attempt to. Studio interference and MCU bias played a far larger role in the current state of DC films than Snyder's "inability".

That being said, I'd like to keep this post about BP. I've now seen it twice. Culturally speaking, it as an EPIC movie. It is unapologetically Black without the slightest hint of compromise OR hubris. As a movie, and particularly a comic book movie it is well done. I find it to be the best Marvel movie since Civil War; though still not nearly as good as Winter Soldier (taking every aspect of each film into consideration).

 

[HellBoy]

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Saw it last night,dope movie. I support killmonger that's all

 

[shamone]

If they gave you a shot, they would be doing more than what was said. That was my point. Just throwing out some black characters aint gonna do shit for them if they dont know what to do with them. I repeat....they just put hundreds of millions of dollars into a movie with Supes, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg....and fell completely flat. These are characters that damn near everybody knows....3 of them.....seriously, everybody knows...and they couldnt make a movie better than the Arrowverse crossover event. You really think them just throwing Icon on screen is ALL they need to do?

that crisis on earth x shitsssss on justice league.

 

[shamone]

PH hit the nail right on the head.

DC's biggest obstacle is....... the Studio Executives at Warner Brothers.

They are waaaayyyyy too invested (and too 'hands-on') in the whole 'creative process'.
Especially... 'in the Editing room'.

Whenever they get back to removing 'Final Cut' from the Top WB Studio Executives... the talented filmmakers might 'release' great stories.

When the Studio doesn't have Final-Cut Privileges on a 'big-budget' movie...

• Peter Jackson makes (3) Lord of the Rings movies that are 3 hrs + 45 min. long & each one makes almost $1 Billion in the USA alone.
• Or Chris Nolan gives you a Dark Knight movie... with a villain performance 'for the ages'... from Heath Ledger.
• Or Martin Scorcese drags you thru the dirty underbelly of a crime drama, and leaves you with The Departed.
• Or James Cameron steers the Avatar of your imagination to distant lands in Outer Space.

That's the model that WB is 'moving away from'.

Warner Bros. Eyes Slimmed-Down Movie Budgets Under Toby Emmerich
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...own-movie-budgets-under-toby-emmerich-1015390

Toby Emmerich and CEO Kevin Tsujihara.

They run Warner Brothers.

Toby Emmerich. He was the President of the Warner Brothers Film Studio. (I think he just got another promotion, in Jan 2018 )
Toby previously ran New Line Cinema for about a decade... and he's worked there (in different roles) for at least the past 20 years.

As the THR article above (from June 2017) says....

"He (Emmerich) believes the WB Studio can hold on to control of 'final cut'... and still hire A-list filmmakers."

Well,' technically' this is true. WB Studios CAN retain 'final cut'... however the real problem is.... the DC superhero movie they actually 'put in movie theaters'... is usually NOT the 'same vision' of the A-List Director that they hired, in the first place.

That's the whole problem.

Btw, one glance at Emmerich's filmography and you will notice a 'common thread'.
Hint: He has ZERO 'tentpole' / blockbuster-level movies under his belt.... except for 'The Hobbit'.

As Executive Producer of the Hobbit... Toby NEVER had 'final-cut privileges' on a film Directed by Peter Jackson. So he could never 'overrule' Jackson.... and chop his movie up in the Editing Room, at the last minute.... against Jackson's wishes.


Warner Bros. Reportedly Wants to Avoid Working With ‘Auteur Directors Who Want Final Cut’

http://www.slashfilm.com/warner-bro...ing-with-auteur-directors-who-want-final-cut/

This reporter concludes her article with...

"An executive with ties to Warner told THR that he expects some “key elements ” of New Line culture to be incorporated into Warner Bros. under Emmerich, namely:
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“Budgets are likely to be slimmed down and final-cut directors may be avoided. He believes the studio can hold on to control of final cut and still hire A-list filmmakers.” (^^this part comes directly from the THR article, posted above)
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Let me say this first: I think this is a terrible idea.

I know that it seems like a natural part of the shift toward franchises, which we have seen take off since Marvel Studios and Disney launched the Marvel Cinematic Universe in 2008, introducing a whole new strategy for easy money for studios: the cinematic universe. Warner Bros. contributed its fair share to this back when it first started the Harry Potterseries in 2001 and Nolan’s The Dark Knight trilogy in 2005. But those movies still gave a fair share of creative control to the directors — Nolan in particular took such a revolutionary approach on the superhero genre that Warner Bros. and Zack Snyder have been trying to replicate it ever since."

lord of rings didn't make close a billion dollars in the usa alone bro. none of them. other that, i agree with you posted.

 

[futureshock]

https://novafile.com/bd9kgall14an​

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

2nd chick:

- she is not really a geek - she doesn't know shit about comic book characters... the memorabilia arrayed around her are just props to her - but she is a "hardcore" Batman fan

- IME- black girls that die blonde and / wear lite colored contacts rarely are in touch with their blackness

The tits chick is a bed wench,listen to her valley white girl tone and check her IG . And she's into cosplay. So of course she can't relate to the historical dialogue in BP

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Every major move that Zack made in MOS, BvS, and JL has its foundation and/or direct correlation in DC Comics. He really didn't re-invent the wheel or even attempt to. Studio interference and MCU bias played a far larger role in the current state of DC films than Snyder's "inability".

That being said, I'd like to keep this post about BP. I've now seen it twice. Culturally speaking, it as an EPIC movie. It is unapologetically Black without the slightest hint of compromise OR hubris. As a movie, and particularly a comic book movie it is well done. I find it to be the best Marvel movie since Civil War; though still not nearly as good as Winter Soldier (taking every aspect of each film into consideration).

That might be true with studio interference but all of those movies feel the exact same as if he didn't even try anything different. And he never says otherwise and keeps making the same movie if he had no freedom Id hope hed leave if he don't care about freedom then that's even worse he just do it for a check.


Keeping it panther

I think it was the best outside of black component he had the most well rounded world and we'll rounded supporting cast ever. Not even close.

The volume and the talent it's like a black well acted incredible storied avengers out of just hia own people no outside "help" i.e. cap Tony spider etc etc

 

[ShortyCumStain]

I haven't read one review or watched a whole video on someone else's opinion about this movie. I've only read what is posted on BGOL. I'm not wasting my time. No need to read about positive reviews because I already know the movie was great.

Me neither. Niggas choose to read or listen to shit to get themselves upset. Not I, said da cat.

 

[Mr. Met]

Just saw the movie.

ALL HAIL KING KILMONGER!

 

[InCogNegro_]

I just saw Black Panther and I agree with all the positive reviews on here...

I just like to add this movie deserves a MAJOR AWARD like an Oscar, cause we all know it's gonna rack up at the NAACP Image awards...

Just some categories off the top of my head the movie should be nominated in:

Best actor: Chadwick B.

Best supporting actor: Michael J.

Best Director: Ryan C.

Best Writing - who ever they are; they manage to incorporate the African American and African experience together in an BIG BUDGET super hero movie, and it wasn't watered down to much

Might not happen but those are my picks...

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

That look
"I'm in your throne room serving justice to a man who stole your vibranium and murdered your people... a justice your king couldn't deliver"
Panther gets off the throne and walks up the guards walk with him
Killmonger looks at the guards like "them some bad bitches fam"

 

[grownazzblakman]

I just saw Black Panther and I agree with all the positive reviews on here...

I just like to add this movie deserves a MAJOR AWARD like an Oscar, cause we all know it's gonna rack up at the NAACP Image awards...

Just some categories off the top of my head the movie should be nominated in:

Best actor: Chadwick B.

Best supporting actor: Michael J.

Best Director: Ryan C.

Best Writing - who ever they are; they manage to incorporate the African American and African experience together in an BIG BUDGET super hero movie, and it wasn't watered down to much

Might not happen but those are my picks...

Agreed.

Assist.

The Oscars are typically awarded for 24 categories.
The Top 10 categories are considered the 'most prestigious'.

And the Top 5 categories are usually awarded at the very end of the Show, every year.
These are called the "Big 5". (Only 3 movies have ever won "The Big 5"... in the history of the Oscars.)

Marvel movies usually at least 'get nominated' or 'win' the Best Visual Effects category, if nothing else.

Now, I don't know which categories BP might actually WIN ... But in addition to your picks, I am guessing/hoping that BP might just 'get nominated' for the additional categories I highlighted in Red...

1. Best Picture
2. Best Director = Ryan Coogler
3. Best Actor in a Leading Role = Chadwick Boseman/T'Challa
4. Best Actress in a Leading Role
5. Best Writing (Original or Adapted Screenplay) = Ryan Coogler, Joe Robert Cole, Jack Kirby & Stan Lee
6. Best Actor in a Supporting Role = Michael B. Jordan/Kilmonger
7. Best Actress in a Supporting Role = Letitia Wright/Shuri or Danai Gurira/Okoyé
8. Best Writing (Original Story) = Ryan Coogler & Joe Robert Cole
9. Best Cinematography = Rachel Morrison
10. Best Animated Feature
11. Best Foreign Language Film
12. Best Animated Short Film
13. Best Art Direction = ????? Not sure who gets the nod. Its a big list of names on IMDB.
14. Best Costume Design = Ruth E. Carter
15. Best Documentary Feature
16. Best Documentary Short Subject
17. Best Film Editing
18. Best Makeup = ??? Not sure who gets the nod. Its a big list of names on IMDB.
19. Best Original Score = Ludwig Göransson
20. Best Original Song
21. Best Sound Editing
22. Best Sound Mixing
23. Best Visual Effects
24. Live Action Short Film

Just my opinion.

 

[Mr. Met]

 

[ViCiouS]

yep...not a single lightskin person was in wakanda lol

no light skin men...

 

[kogalee muhammad]

She was just trying floss...
She got me the big thor one
Wifey made me give it to a neighbor's kid

"She was just trying floss..." ...........



"She got me the big thor one".........


"Wifey made me give it to a neighbor's kid" .........

There are some sick mothafuckas on this board.


Your wifey made you give it to a neighbor's kid, huh....

Why did your wife make you give it to HER instead?

Your sick ass should be in JAIL, nigga!

 

[kogalee muhammad]

no light skin men...

This movie is shit.
What the fuck kind of king has to be protected by his women?

 

[ViCiouS]

Black Panther Is Making Conservatives Feel Profoundly Threatened

...the refrain of choice of trolls, mad that they could never, has been “Wakanda isn’t real.” The phrase is essentially shorthand for silencing and infantilizing Black Panther fans and denying the African history that inspired Wakanda, so it’s no surprise that right-wingers have latched onto it. And it’s definitely no surprise that this morning, supposed temple of conservative intellectuals National Reviewpublished an article titled “Why We Can’t Have Wakanda,” which is essentially, “Wakanda Isn’t Real: The Blog.” It’s a useful look into the ways that one movie is causing conservatives to feel profoundly threatened...

 

[Mylansky]

Marvel just released this comic about the events before Civil War as far as what Black Panther was doing.

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

 

[playahaitian]

Black Panther Is Making Conservatives Feel Profoundly Threatened

...the refrain of choice of trolls, mad that they could never, has been “Wakanda isn’t real.” The phrase is essentially shorthand for silencing and infantilizing Black Panther fans and denying the African history that inspired Wakanda, so it’s no surprise that right-wingers have latched onto it. And it’s definitely no surprise that this morning, supposed temple of conservative intellectuals National Reviewpublished an article titled “Why We Can’t Have Wakanda,” which is essentially, “Wakanda Isn’t Real: The Blog.” It’s a useful look into the ways that one movie is causing conservatives to feel profoundly threatened...

I JUST telling my peeps if ANYONE

black or White

says Wakanda isn't real?

That is basically All Lives Matter

and they should NOT be trusted.

Seriously if you leave your drink around them?

Throw that sh*t out.

 

[wtfrulookinat]

So much more couldve been done with this character in future Black Panther movies in the MCU.

Maybe we will see him again, because in the comic he was killed and brought back to life, so ill hold out hope this happens later on.

Or maybe Thanos does something and brings him back in Infinity Wars. Point is we all feel the same way about his characater coming back.



I see a lot of that in this thread filling in the blanks. Some of it was there some wasnt but I see how people feel about it.

Society can handle it, may not want to (especially in this pc climate) but they can and Marvel is the perfect platform to do it, Coogler did well bringing in this commentary across cultures.

Movies, movie characters are suppose to CHALLENGE, thats the whole point, thats what makes us feel those emotions. Takes you out your comfort zone.

And your right theres enough there to understand he’s a monster, but thats it. Marvel falls back on its typicall classic doppelgänger trope representing the worst of the hero in Killmonger.

Marvel has a history of having weak ass villians and outside of Loki, Killmonger is a good 2nd spot for me (maybe 3rd once Infinity War drops) even tho they still slacked on him too. So yes I do blame Marvel, Disney, Coogler and the writers of BP. Once again lack of screen time eats away chances of establishing a great villian.

But the fact Killmongers character stands out, tells me a lot about Michael B Jordans ability as an actor, and Coogler as a director. Despite Marvel falling back on its typical “evil version of the super hero” trope and cliches he was able to elevate the role to the point where I don't think most in here recognize thats what marvel did. Difference here is Killmonger whoops ass and proves he can become the black panther lol

F

@largebillsonlyplease

Imma need a Killmonger playlist / mixtape

like NOW.

bgol DJs assemble

Wakanda Beat Battle

we need a Killmonger theme song!

@drowzie @wtfrulookinat @TFN Crew @fame3000 @Skinnie Talls @4 Dimensional @DJCandle @Dr. Truth

Hmmmmmm...let me start crate digging....

 

[Mello Mello]

Just watched it again today and N'Kia should've been on Killmongers side. The things she tells T'Challa after he is crowned Black Panther and the challenge ceremony ends are aligned with Killmonger. She wanted to open Wakanda up to other nations help oppressed people around the world, etc. I thought her character should've been more sympathetic than say W'Kabi. At least that would've made for some interesting drama being that N'Kia is T'Challa's ex girlfriend.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I JUST telling my peeps if ANYONE

black or White

says Wakanda isn't real?

That is basically All Lives Matter

and they should NOT be trusted.

Seriously if you leave your drink around them?

Throw that sh*t out.

Neither is Hogwarts
Or the Resistance.
Or Gotham
Or Metropolis
Or any of those places.

I love the fact that they saw a world where we were free to do what we wanted and they were the ones left behind.

I always thought about it even as a young kid and its the easiest way I explain the difference to people at work and such when talking about what's so special about wakanda

I just say
America got Vibranium and made a big regular ass shield for cap.

Wakanda got Vibranium and well..


Cause lost in all of this is, they could have had Vibranium and not been as advanced as they were. They just knew how to USE IT. it wasn't misused. It wasn't hoarded. It wasn't looted.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Just watched it again today and N'Kia should've been on Killmongers side. The things she tells T'Challa after he is crowned Black Panther and the challenge ceremony ends are aligned with Killmonger. She wanted to open Wakanda up to other nations help oppressed people around the world, etc. I thought her character should've been more sympathetic than say W'Kabi. At least that would've made for some interesting drama being that N'Kia is T'Challa's ex girlfriend.

That's the thing. Everyone kind of felt like Killmonger. It wasn't his message it was his methods but we got the back story as to why he turned into the man he was. The mark of a great villain is the way they affect the character after.
T'Challa changed his world view after learning about Erik and encountering him and listening to his message. Nakia nudged him even further but there was no way she could be on his side, she loved T'Challa and the family and her parents weren't killed by Klaw when he broke in and stole some Vibranium.


The Drama between them was he was smitten with her but no matter what she wasn't going to stay if it meant the status quo was going to take place.
He had to come around.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Nah W'Kabi stay here we need you to put country first.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

NAH

 

[LSN]

...light skin men...

that’s an oxymoron

 

[LSN]

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5420349/Lupita-Nyongo-star-produce-Born-Crime.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...educators-lead-effort-kids-Black-Panther.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5409843/Michelle-Obama-loved-Black-Panther.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...ack-Panther-continued-box-office-success.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...th-enjoys-Black-Panther-wife-Elsa-Pataky.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...reates-Chadwick-Boseman-s-magazine-cover.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...a-talks-empowered-Africans-Black-Panther.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/af...-Panther-toy-sales-fierce-film-opens-big.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...right-steals-Black-Panther-breakout-role.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...-false-Hollywood-beliefs-says-Will-Smith.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/af...-Panther-sign-new-inclusiveness--one-off.html

 

[Mello Mello]

That's the thing. Everyone kind of felt like Killmonger. It wasn't his message it was his methods but we got the back story as to why he turned into the man he was. The mark of a great villain is the way they affect the character after.
T'Challa changed his world view after learning about Erik and encountering him and listening to his message. Nakia nudged him even further but there was no way she could be on his side, she loved T'Challa and the family and her parents weren't killed by Klaw when he broke in and stole some Vibranium.


The Drama between them was he was smitten with her but no matter what she wasn't going to stay if it meant the status quo was going to take place.
He had to come around.

You’re right, it was more for T’Challa character development.

It just goes to show the varied degrees in which others wanted to open Wakanda from N’Kia’s pov to Killmongers that influenced T’Challa’s decision.

Killmonger was right.

 

[water]

NAH

So now Mugabe sees redemption

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

You’re right, it was more for T’Challa character development.

It just goes to show the varied degrees in which others wanted to open Wakanda from N’Kia’s pov to Killmongers that influenced T’Challa’s decision.

Killmonger was right.

That's what it is. Killmonger was right. So much so that T'Challa had to go to Oakland where this mission began and start THERE with helping out brothers and sisters.

Remember when they had the challenge he said he had waited his whole life for this he worked hard for this he killed for this killed brothers and sisters on this continent for this.

He wasn't a saint. He is a villain he did the wrong things all of the time. But the passion and his message resonated. Liberation from colonizers was his mission. I almost feel disrespectful calling him Killmonger and Erik
His name is N'Jadaka

 

[playahaitian]

NAH

@largebillsonlyplease

just for the sake of debate...

do you think MBJ will receive ANY award nominations?

and IF he doesn't...what will the reaction be?