Katt Williams Believes Eddie Murphy Shouldn’t Be Considered Someone’s ‘Favorite Comedian’

Camille

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He IS an acquired taste

But I can't ve critical cause I don't find kevin hart funny at all

Kevin is funny at times, but he's a bit over the top for me. I love Katt Williams tho. Chappell first, Katt Second, I don't know who would be third, but it probably isn't Eddie.
 

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I’m gonna try and think of from Katt’s perspective. I’m thinking he’s taking like someone asking you who’s your favorite rapper and you say “BIG”.

That’s the best that I can come up with. :dunno:
 

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I like Kevin, I find him amusing and I respect his grind. I think Kevin was one of the 1st celebrities to totally embrace social media. I saw one of his videos where he said he was playing to sold out audiences in his early days, based on his social media engagement.

His hustle game is unmatched undisputed and should be studied in schools

But for some reason that brother just don't bring the funny

Actually correction he was very funny on Hollywood husbands
 

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Love Katt but
Kevin standup is HORRENDOUS

He someone who THINKS he can improvise and is just naturally funny

He is not to me

Few are.

But in the right situation with the proper writers?

That man is a star he done proved that.

Multiple times.

I respect it
 

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Eddie Murphy's hustle just to be considered for Saturday Night Live at the age of 19 is astronomical.

Do you know how young you got to start? Do you know how many clubs you got to play in when you're too young to be in there in the first place?

Do you realize how little life experience you have to be funny at that age?

Sometimes Katt Williams needs to sit down and shut the fuk up. Eddie Murphy was a comedian first. Yes, he only had two specials. But did he need any more?

He ascended past stand up. He was still funny, but he ascended past stand up. That was his choice.

Stand-up is the start for every comedian. Some choose to stay in it, While others don't have a choice because movies never came calling for them the way it did for Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac, Chris Tucker and many others

I don't know if a Mount Rushmore of comedians could be done, but if you want to put in a career achievement Eddie Murphy did that so others could do theirs

You could never get a consensus Mount Rushmore of comedians, even with the Mount Rushmore or black comedian. It's not possible

^^^^
 

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He someone who THINKS he can improvise and is just naturally funny

He is not to me

Few are.

But in the right situation with the proper writers?

That man is a star he done proved that.

Multiple times.

I respect it
He's funny but his standup is horrible
 

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You know the biggest problem with Katt' argument .... I'd rather watch Raw or Delirious for the 125th time before I watch anything from Katt. Because even jokes that I've heard 124 times before will still be funnier than a brand new Katt Williams routine.
 

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You know the biggest problem with Katt' argument .... I'd rather watch Raw or Delirious for the 125th time before I watch anything from Katt. Because even jokes that I've heard 124 times before will still be funnier than a brand new Katt Williams routine.
Bullshit
 

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To each their own, but I feel like Katt uses the N-word too much in his specials. Hearing him drop that word 10 times across two sentences kills the joke for me. Especially when the camera turns to get shots from the audience and it's rows and rows of laughing CaCs. :dunno:
 

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To each their own, but I feel like Katt uses the N-word too much in his specials. Hearing him drop that word 10 times across two sentences kills the joke for me. Especially when the camera turns to get shots from the audience and it's rows and rows of laughing CaCs. :dunno:
Ok i get it
 

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When did he start and when did he finish?

Raw came out in 87. I don't know if he ever performed stand up after that, but for the sake of this conversation let's say that was his final performance. He was 26 or 27 at that time. He started some time in the 70s as a teen.
 

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Katt... brother please

Just take a break from all this talking about nothing

And when was Katt last stand up special?
Within the past three years, I think.

He testing out new material right now for his next special.

It took me a minute to warm up to him.

I am not his target fan, but I respect some of his work.

He just simply has to accept that Eddie probably would have continued to do stand up if he was a less talented comedian.

Let’s face it, Eddie Murphy was box office comedic movie star that started out as a stand up comedian. No one back then was confused.

And neither is Katy. Every standup comedian ain’t that talented.
As I stated before, can you really be the GOAT if you have confirmed ghostwriters?
Well, if it was rap, yeah.

Great comedians write and co-write their entire careers.

It’s one of the ways to test out your material.
Eddie has made more money/impact as an actor than a comedian. I see his point.
A “comedic” actor. He is still a comedian. Just because he is not currently performing routines doesn’t make Eddie not a comedian.
 

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Raw came out in 87. I don't know if he ever performed stand up after that, but for the sake of this conversation let's say that was his final performance. He was 26 or 27 at that time. He started some time in the 70s as a teen.
He started in 1976 and ended in 1980.

A stand up comic's career is strictly limited to perfoming live shows on a regular basis. His stand up comic career only lasted 4 years.

Between 1980 and 2018 Eddie been doing other entertainment stuff, not weekly, monthly or even yearly stand up shows.

Delirious and Raw are specials. They dont count towards the length of his stand up career anymore than if Jordan played one game for the Wizards today to extend his.
 

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Richard Pryor's Live in Concert (1979) and Eddie Murphy's Delirious are the 2 best Stand-Up specials ever. :yes:

That ****** Crazy and Was it Something I Said till this day are my favs

I never got into Katts stand-up. I like him as a character and some premises he did were catchy but he has too much fat in his bits.

Katt never hit like Bernie Mac doing 5 minutes of str8 fire on Def Jam where he layered the joke within a joke and build upon it even more. All meat and no fat in 5 minutes. Or even Sam Kenison (before the coke addiction) with bits about necrofilia rapist and the bit about love. Or Richard Jennings now that man was a beast at stand-up no fat
 
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I give you an analogy. If we found out today that Mike Jordan used steroids (ghostwriters) his whole career would he still be the GOAT in most people eyes?

Barry Bonds would like to have a word with you. He still isnt in the HOF and Steriod weren't even illegal in his sport when he supposedly used them.
 

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He started in 1976 and ended in 1980.

A stand up comic's career is strictly limited to perfoming live shows on a regular basis. His stand up comic career only lasted 4 years.

Between 1980 and 2018 Eddie been doing other entertainment stuff, not weekly, monthly or even yearly stand up shows.

Delirious and Raw are specials. They dont count towards the length of his stand up career anymore than if Jordan played one game for the Wizards today to extend his.

Nah. He didn't stop stand up when he got on SNL. Hell he did stand up on his first Carson appearance in 82. His first comedy album came out in 82 and was made up from stand up material he did that year. Not to mention like all stand up comedians (all those worth a damn anyway), he did shows before his specials to get the material right. His stand up career ended whenever he completely stopped doing it.
 

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That ****** Crazy and Was it Something I Said till this day are my favs

I never got into Katts stand-up. I like him as a character and some premises he did were catchy But when it comes to true stand-up, Katt never hit like Bernie Mac doing 5 minutes of str8 fire on Def Jam where he layered the joke within a joke and build upon it even more. All meat and no fat in 5 minutes. Till this day that is unreal to me
That Bernie Mac set I AIN'T SCARED OF YOU MUFUCCAS/KICK IT set is so popular that it ended up in an episode of American Dad... with Stan doing the dance and everything... shit was hilarious
 

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He started in 1976 and ended in 1980.

A stand up comic's career is strictly limited to perfoming live shows on a regular basis. His stand up comic career only lasted 4 years.

Between 1980 and 2018 Eddie been doing other entertainment stuff, not weekly, monthly or even yearly stand up shows.

Delirious and Raw are specials. They dont count towards the length of his stand up career anymore than if Jordan played one game for the Wizards today to extend his.

People need to understand were Kat is coming from. Kat is an independent comic without a media machine to make him look good.

Eddie is too damn scared to do stand up because he understands that thru great writers and SNL hype, Delirious was a classic stand up "special".

Raw was average at best. Eddie Griffin has more specials of note than Eddie Murphy. But I guarantee you MFer are gonna be dumb enough to Murphy is Better than Griffin when Griffin could go work Vegas tomorrow and Murphy would have a panic attack if he had to say anything without a script.

Why should Kat respect a guy who never tours, doesn't do local shows, had his jokes written for him, and rarely works. The same would apply for Chris Tucker except Chris wrote his own shit.

When your resume is that short how do we know you aren't a one hit wonder. If Tiffany Haddish has ONE good special are we gonna say shes better than Wanda Sykes because shes more successful?
 

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And?

If his premise is about Eddie not having performed enough to be considered "great" he's wrong. Unlike combat sports in comedy you dont compete against any other greats to be great.

If its about his body of work, his career is made up mostly of comedic performance. You cant limit comedians to just doing stand up.

But if you did, in the 4 years Eddie did it he ushered in a whole new era of comedy, literally changing the game. The comedians from Def comedy jam constantly referenced his material in their sets. 4 years while making an indelible mark on the industry aint long enough?

Dude got 3 comedy albums and 2 specials, and even if youve never heard the albums youve heard them being quoted.

Eddie will go down in history as one of the greats. Anything otherwise is unrealistic.
You act like we had a bunch of choices back then. Black comedy back then was Redd Foxx, Flip Wilson, Richard Pryor, and Eddie Murphy. All those guys influenced everything because they were the ones to get a chance.

Once Def Jam came along and guys like Robin Harris, Bernie Mack, Chris Tucker, and DC Curry hit the stage them niggas became unfunny and never hit the stage again. Sorry bruh but Robin Harris would tear Eddie Murphy a new one.

Easy to be the funny black guy when you are the only one. Aint no shortage of niggas who can talk shit. Im a big Eddie fan and Delirious was great for its time.

But one good stand up does not make a career, Kat had made millions and continues to tour because hes funny and has a following. Hes not Haddish with a team of writers and a machine behind him and still not funny funny. Kat will roast you black ass and make you look like an ass on the spot, thats why other comedians dont want no smoke.

Kat>>>>than most the current dudes not named Chappelle and still touring. Thats just facts.
 

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Kevin is funny at times, but he's a bit over the top for me. I love Katt Williams tho. Chappell first, Katt Second, I don't know who would be third, but it probably isn't Eddie.
Kat tried to tell you the ladies love him. More than most of your famous comics. Yall hard headed nigga dont listen.

Dont act like her opinion doesn't matter because most dudes dont go solo to a comdey show. Thats date night. And you better not take her to see some unfunny MFer and expect some pussy.

Yall niggas gonna buy that Kat Williams ticket and like it. And laugh at every unfunny joke to get you some pussy for them $200 tickets.
 

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People need to understand were Kat is coming from. Kat is an independent comic without a media machine to make him look good.

Eddie is too damn scared to do stand up because he understands that thru great writers and SNL hype, Delirious was a classic stand up "special".

Raw was average at best. Eddie Griffin has more specials of note than Eddie Murphy. But I guarantee you MFer are gonna be dumb enough to Murphy is Better than Griffin when Griffin could go work Vegas tomorrow and Murphy would have a panic attack if he had to say anything without a script.

Why should Kat respect a guy who never tours, doesn't do local shows, had his jokes written for him, and rarely works. The same would apply for Chris Tucker except Chris wrote his own shit.

When your resume is that short how do we know you aren't a one hit wonder. If Tiffany Haddish has ONE good special are we gonna say shes better than Wanda Sykes because shes more successful?


Eddie Griffin was the other comedian I was trying to remember.
 
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