Katt did not say Eddie cant be considered a great "stand up comic". He said "comedian." As a comedian Eddie conquered stage, records, tv and movies. Comedians arent limited to doing stand up, and as a comedian nobody in their right mind would call Murphy a one hit wonder in any way shape form or fashion.
Yall starting to be unreasonable.
I'm a bigger Eddie than Kat fan but get both sides of the argument. Kat still has a point about Eddie not writing his own material. Eddie is a great comedic actor but the same can be said for Charlie Sheen. Have you seen Charlies stand up he wrote? He came to my city and stunk it up. Eddie will do the same if he doesn't have great writers.
With the exception of Coming to America his best movies aren't comedies (Golden Child/48hrs/BHC/Boomerang/Trading Places). Eddie is more than a comedian, hes a great actor in the vein of Jim Carrey were they will never get props because they are good jesters too. Eddie is a GREAT imitator that people mistake for being funny while hes really still acting. Im know that sounds weird but thats what great actors do. They fool you unto thinking they are something they aren't.
When rappers ghost write they lose standing amongst their artist peers. The same should be said for comedians. The advantage Eddie and Richard had is that they had TEAMS of black and white writers giving them killer material.Black writers giving their best shit instead of using it themselves. Once that lane dried up Eddie stop being funny to the point that his brother was more genuinely funny than him.
The black writers HAD to give Eddie shit because Hollywood wasn't fucking with no one but Eddie/Richard. Harlem Nights is a big deal because Redd/Richard/Eddie were the face of black comedy.
After Def Jam guys like Cedic, Steve, DL, and Bernie did an entire tour were they declared themselves Kings and didnt invite Eddies ass. Most of you didn't have a problem because Def Jam had elevated the black comic and these guys had put in enough work where you had to respect them declaring so.
As much as I love Eddie he hides in the closet and rarely says shit while others like Kat can be funny on a drop of a dime. To my knowledge, unless Eddie was ghost helping his brother he doesn't have any writing or production credits either. So you have to ask the question what was stopping him from being funny?
Dont tell me picking up trannies because Richard sucked dick, did crack, set himself on fire and made some of the best comedy about it because that's what funny people do. They make light of terrible shit they did instead of running from it like Eddie.
I think he is professionally correct when he says a man who hasn't been in a funny movie in 20 years isnt as good as perception. Kat has some valid points. Eddie was funny when he had little competition and other people giving him material.
Negreos say the same shit about Tiffany Haddish too. But its doesnt stop Tiffany nore Eddie from being great actors who can be funny. Charlie Sheen is the same. Haddish, Sheen, and Eddie got ONE good special between all three. But put them with good material were they can improv the funny parts and the all can be great but on a stand up stage in 2021 they all would bomb if they have to write shit themselves.
I think the sad part is that Hollywood is too stupid to recognize these people as great actors and labeled people like Jim Carrey Will Farrell and Eddie Murphy comedians for marketing purposes.
Blame Hollywood and not Kat. Kat is just giving his PROFESSIONAL opinion on a technical level. Ask yourself, if you and your homeboy were in lock up for the weekend and needed somebody to keep the natives at bay with jokes, who you gonna trust, the nigga who wont shut up like Kat (and goes to jail regularly) or the nigga who tells a joke once every 5 years?
My bet is on Kats, jailbird ass.
We aint even gonna talk about Chappelle because he runs laps around Eddie.
Eddie's got much more work as a comedic actor than as a standup comic. Hell, he might even have more albums as a singer than specials as a comic. He obviously made a massive impact as a comic, but most of his material was reworked Pryor content and didn't age well. (He ended up apologizing for his most popular jokes.) Eddie's one of my favorite comics, but I can definitely understand and agree with Katt's point.
