Man dies on NYC subway after being placed in choke-hold by fellow passenger

mariano42

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A lot of non New Yorkers don't know what they're talking about on social media and here in this thread. The MTA subways is a oversized moving killbox since Covid-19 showed up. Subway been dangerous but now its feeling like gritty 70s and 80s NYC. Every New York City had an incident in the train with a crazy in one shape or another. I do agree the hold was on too long but I've seen and heard stories of people getting punched in the face or killed by people like Neely.


Another thing national news ain't reporting like local NYC news is Neely cracked a women's skull and almost KIDNAPPED A 7 YEAR OLD CHILD. :smh: the fact people protesting a guy that was on the verge of raping a child is crazy as fuck. :smh:
 

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A lot of non New Yorkers don't know what they're talking about on social media and here in this thread. The MTA subways is a oversized moving killbox since Covid-19 showed up. Subway been dangerous but now its feeling like gritty 70s and 80s NYC. Every New York City had an incident in the train with a crazy in one shape or another. I do agree the hold was on too long but I've seen and heard stories of people getting punched in the face or killed by people like Neely.


Another thing national news ain't reporting like local NYC news is Neely cracked a women's skull and almost KIDNAPPED A 7 YEAR OLD CHILD. :smh: the fact people protesting a guy that was on the verge of raping a child is crazy as fuck. :smh:
Moses killed a man before he let his people out of Egypt.
 

tallblacknyc

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A lot of non New Yorkers don't know what they're talking about on social media and here in this thread. The MTA subways is a oversized moving killbox since Covid-19 showed up. Subway been dangerous but now its feeling like gritty 70s and 80s NYC. Every New York City had an incident in the train with a crazy in one shape or another. I do agree the hold was on too long but I've seen and heard stories of people getting punched in the face or killed by people like Neely.


Another thing national news ain't reporting like local NYC news is Neely cracked a women's skull and almost KIDNAPPED A 7 YEAR OLD CHILD. :smh: the fact people protesting a guy that was on the verge of raping a child is crazy as fuck. :smh:
Didn’t know info about ole boy. But here’s the obvious question then. If ole boy cracked a female skull and almost kidnapped a child what was he doing on the streets. If anything that obviously shows a failed system. Either he should’ve been in prison or locked in a nuthouse for yrssss

Also that white boy knew none of that info and killed ole boy. He didn’t kill ole boy because of his past he killed him cause he was blood thirsty.. so white boy still not gonna get a pass
 

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Didn’t know info about ole boy. But here’s the obvious question then. If ole boy cracked a female skull and almost kidnapped a child what was he doing on the streets. If anything that obviously shows a failed system. Either he should’ve been in prison or locked in a nuthouse for yrssss

Also that white boy knew none of that info and killed ole boy. He didn’t kill ole boy because of his past he killed him cause he was blood thirsty.. so white boy still not gonna get a pass

This the problem in the City. Weed, petty crime..aight. But multiple violent offenses? Those kind of cats should not be on the streets!
 

mariano42

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Wait what? When did he do this


Neely was arrested 42 times across the last decade, with his most recent bust in November 2021 for slugging a 67-year-old female stranger in the face as she exited a subway station in the East Village, cops said.
The senior citizen suffered a broken nose and fractured orbital bone when she was knocked to the sidewalk, along with swelling and “substantial” head pain after hitting the ground.
On June 27, 2019, Neely was arrested for punching a 64-year-old man in the face during a fight in a Greenwich Village subway station, cops said.

And he was busted in August 2015 for attempted kidnapping after he was seen dragging a 7-year-old girl down an Inwood street. He pled guilty to endangering the welfare of a child and was sentenced to four months in jail

Local NYC news is reporting this except for national. Now you have transplants in NYC protesting all weekend.
 

mariano42

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Didn’t know info about ole boy. But here’s the obvious question then. If ole boy cracked a female skull and almost kidnapped a child what was he doing on the streets. If anything that obviously shows a failed system. Either he should’ve been in prison or locked in a nuthouse for yrssss

Also that white boy knew none of that info and killed ole boy. He didn’t kill ole boy because of his past he killed him cause he was blood thirsty.. so white boy still not gonna get a pass
Nah we're talking AFTER the fact with these transplants protesting. Usually kidnappers when they kidnap children they plan on raping them. Jordan Neely tried to do this and people are being willfully ignorant about that.
 

mariano42

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It feels like I'm on a fox news board.... every time a black man does something wrong...they look up his past history to justify the things they did now.
No one is talking about the white dude's history....just sayin
:hmm:
If the white guy has a criminal record, will this turn into the battle of the lesser evil? What can be worse than kidnapping a child to potentially rape them? It's murder, but Neely never killed nobody.

I don't know bro, man would've been a sex offender for raping a child if he got away with her and didn't get caught. He didn't and got charged with child endangerment instead. :smh:

Just too much "Wait a second" "But" and "What ifs" regarding his past ****including the 7 year old child part****. It's like ninjas enabling and justifying it. Anything with child kidnapping is a NO-NO in my book. If I see a child getting kidnapped the purp going to get hurt, period.
 

playahaitian

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This is an indictment on the city, social services and law enforcement first and foremost

That is an egregious track record

But sadly not surprising

But

And u do not use this as an excuse for his criminal behavior.

That white man DID NOT KNOW THAT MAN'S PREVIOUS HISTORY.

We are not going to minority report situations like this.

That's not how those works

He did NOT have to kill that man

Period full stop

That's all we saying.

He would NOT have done that to a white man.

And even law enforcement wouldn't do that to someone

Even someobe who had just shot a church full of black folk who fed him and prayed with him.

That man murdered that black man under the GUISE of heroism.
 

Temujin

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If the white guy has a criminal record, will this turn into the battle of the lesser evil? What can be worse than kidnapping a child to potentially rape them? It's murder, but Neely never killed nobody.

I don't know bro, man would've been a sex offender for raping a child if he got away with her and didn't get caught. He didn't and got charged with child endangerment instead. :smh:

Just too much "Wait a second" "But" and "What ifs" regarding his past ****including the 7 year old child part****. It's like ninjas enabling and justifying it. Anything with child kidnapping is a NO-NO in my book. If I see a child getting kidnapped the purp going to get hurt, period.

None of this has anything to do with being put in a chokehold for 15 minutes while two other people hold your arms. You buggin. Man got killed in broad daylight in front of train full of people none of whom knew his criminal history but allowed him to get mudered.
 

therealjondoe

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This is an indictment on the city, social services and law enforcement first and foremost

That is an egregious track record

But sadly not surprising

But

And u do not use this as an excuse for his criminal behavior.

That white man DID NOT KNOW THAT MAN'S PREVIOUS HISTORY.

We are not going to minority report situations like this.

That's not how those works

He did NOT have to kill that man

Period full stop

That's all we saying.

He would NOT have done that to a white man.

And even law enforcement wouldn't do that to someone

Even someobe who had just shot a church full of black folk who fed him and prayed with him.

That man murdered that black man under the GUISE of heroism.
Educate this Floridian,
With as big as NYPD is, why isn't the subway more safe?
 

playahaitian

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Educate this Floridian,
With as big as NYPD is, why isn't the subway more safe?

Jon jon that is complicated as f*ck to really answer.

There is no transit system in the world like NYC

2 million a day bro during covid

Before?

Over 5 million

472 stops

Now add that's 24 hours a day 7 days a week

Ok now add rush hour?

School kids?

And one of the largest homeless populations in the country?

And add mental illnes?

And remember we got crazy all over forget homeless

Add criminals: gangs, rapists, felons, molesters, thieves...

Oh and beggers?

Hopping turnstiles?

So we focus JUST on the train...

What about the other 5 boroughs?

Then add buses?

Oh what about city traffic?

Stores restaurants hospitals stores office buildings churches malls parks etc etc

Oh and ALL THOSE PLACES ARE PRIMED FOR TERRORISTS.

And there are dozens more reasons.

And considering ALL THAT AND MORE?

Train is actually safer than you would think.

Proof? That's why stories like this are so big.

All that being said?

Cops need to do a much better job.
 

therealjondoe

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Jon jon that is complicated as f*ck to really answer.

There is no transit system in the world like NYC

2 million a day bro during covid

Before?

Over 5 million

472 stops

Now add that's 24 hours a day 7 days a week

Ok now add rush hour?

School kids?

And one of the largest homeless populations in the country?

And add mental illnes?

And remember we got crazy all over forget homeless

Add criminals: gangs, rapists, felons, molesters, thieves...

Oh and beggers?

Hopping turnstiles?

So we focus JUST on the train...

What about the other 5 boroughs?

Then add ?

Oh what about traffic?

Stores restaurants hospitals stores office buildings churches malls parks etc etc

Oh and ALL THOSE PLACES ARE PRIMED FOR TERRORISTS.

And there are dozens more reasons.
Terrorism is the first thing that popped in my mind when you listed the #s of people.
I bet if a bomb went off down there they'd figure it out real quick.
Everything is reactionary.
"We're flying by the seat of our pants"
 

playahaitian

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Terrorism is the first thing that popped in my mind when you listed the #s of people.
I bet if a bomb went off down there they'd figure it out real quick.
Everything is reactionary.
"We're flying by the seat of our pants"

Again considering how long we had this system add pandemic, 9/11, black outs, riots, protests and countless other incidents

Outside of movie scripts?

You have to admit the cops have actually done a decent JOB OVERALL.

please be clear I said overall decent

I could list thousands of things they need to do to improve easily.

But OVERALL I gotta give them credit.

Begrudgingly
 

tallblacknyc

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If the white guy has a criminal record, will this turn into the battle of the lesser evil? What can be worse than kidnapping a child to potentially rape them? It's murder, but Neely never killed nobody.

I don't know bro, man would've been a sex offender for raping a child if he got away with her and didn't get caught. He didn't and got charged with child endangerment instead. :smh:

Just too much "Wait a second" "But" and "What ifs" regarding his past ****including the 7 year old child part****. It's like ninjas enabling and justifying it. Anything with child kidnapping is a NO-NO in my book. If I see a child getting kidnapped the purp going to get hurt, period.
If Ted bundy killed Jeffrey dahmer in the streets by a chokehold would you say let’s not arrest bundy for his good deed? If anything you celebrate dahmer dying and hope bundy get life.. they call that killing 2 birds with 1 stone.. so if we go by your info ole boy had karma catch up to him but in the end we still want that blood thirsty cac off the street to.. no matter which way you try to angle it the cac deserves to go to jail
 

mariano42

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This is an indictment on the city, social services and law enforcement first and foremost

That is an egregious track record

But sadly not surprising

But

And u do not use this as an excuse for his criminal behavior.

That white man DID NOT KNOW THAT MAN'S PREVIOUS HISTORY.

We are not going to minority report situations like this.

That's not how those works

He did NOT have to kill that man

Period full stop

That's all we saying.

He would NOT have done that to a white man.

And even law enforcement wouldn't do that to someone

Even someobe who had just shot a church full of black folk who fed him and prayed with him.

That man murdered that black man under the GUISE of heroism.
Choke was locked in too long I agree. But reading your posts you don't live in NYC and take the MTA. I've seen a chick get spat on by someone like Neely before and seen someone get elbowed. Now wouldn't you be on attack mode if you're locked inside a train car for 2 to 3 mins with someone like that?

People outside NYC don't know what we deal with in the subways when covid showed up. In the early pandemic there was a serial killer loose in the subway. Like I've said, too much input from outsiders on this situation but don't know how grimey the subways can be when they dont use it on a daily basis or had anything happen to them.

I just find it odd people are heated about a potential child rapist that got choked out to death when he was in the train screaming "I don't care if I do life in jail". Ninjas acting like they wouldn't be on edge locked in a train. Again, there was a serial killer loose in the train system a year ago, local NYC news not national.

But miss me with that bullshit, ninja was going to keep his assaults up attacking someone's mother and probably succeed kidnapping a child down the line :smh:. Again, it seems like people want justice over a potential child rapist which is wild as fuck :smh:. Even in the link I posted theres a 10 year old reddit post about him, ninja was a problem. The messed up system contributed to it also with a flawed design. But nobody should be attacked unprovoked nor should a child be kidnapped by a grown as man :smh:
 

crazyace718

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They said it doesn't matter because he didn't do it right there in the spot.
Choke was locked in too long I agree. But reading your posts you don't live in NYC and take the MTA. I've seen a chick get spat on by someone like Neely before and seen someone get elbowed. Now wouldn't you be on attack mode if you're locked inside a train car for 2 to 3 mins with someone like that?

People outside NYC don't know what we deal with in the subways when covid showed up. In the early pandemic there was a serial killer loose in the subway. Like I've said, too much input from outsiders on this situation but don't know how grimey the subways can be when they dont use it on a daily basis or had anything happen to them.

I just find it odd people are heated about a potential child rapist that got choked out to death when he was in the train screaming "I don't care if I do life in jail". Ninjas acting like they wouldn't be on edge locked in a train. Again, there was a serial killer loose in the train system a year ago, local NYC news not national.

But miss me with that bullshit, ninja was going to keep his assaults up attacking someone's mother and probably succeed kidnapping a child down the line :smh:. Again, it seems like people want justice over a potential child rapist which is wild as fuck :smh:. Even in the link I posted theres a 10 year old reddit post about him, ninja was a problem. The messed up system contributed to it also with a flawed design. But nobody should be attacked unprovoked nor should a child be kidnapped by a grown as man :smh:

That's what I'm saying. His behavior didn't warrant a death sentence. But I'm not shredding any tears over his demise. He fucked around and found out.
 

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i agree...I want to know the white thug history....as well...brah

This is an indictment on the city, social services and law enforcement first and foremost

That is an egregious track record

But sadly not surprising

But

And u do not use this as an excuse for his criminal behavior.

That white man DID NOT KNOW THAT MAN'S PREVIOUS HISTORY.

We are not going to minority report situations like this.

That's not how those works

He did NOT have to kill that man

Period full stop

That's all we saying.

He would NOT have done that to a white man.

And even law enforcement wouldn't do that to someone

Even someobe who had just shot a church full of black folk who fed him and prayed with him.

That man murdered that black man under the GUISE of heroism.
NYC is just as racist as any state in the deep south
 

parisian

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You shouldnt be

I'm lost @jasonblacc ... What's going on? I'm really dumbfounded... cats are cool with this? because of reports that he has been erratic or unhinged in the past... so by that logic, every single person who've had a bad day is liable to get murdered in broad daylight... dude wasn't killing anybody but yet, he got lynched... and people are applauding... damn... is there so little compassion / care / responsibility / civility in people's hearts?
 

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This is my issue ..it wasn't the chokehold etc ..it was for how long he held the chokehold...15mins man ..that's atleast. 7 train stops ..no one thought is signal a cop..
being a new Yorker I bet a few passengers jumped off a stop early when they seen what was going on an was like "I gonna be part of this shit ..I'm out"..
15 mins...man..come on
 

ghoststrike

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There was no reason to apply the chokehold, he could've restrained him without it.
Even if the choke was all he knew, he didn't have to squeeze much to restrain and not render him unconscious.
The extra force was on some hero or malicious shit, "watch what I can do". Throw the book at him.

Edit: Proper application of a rear naked choke to restrain, the robber is having a full conversation while the choke is applied.

Timestamped :32


Same thing I was thinking, when the news 1st broke.

The term "former marine" keeps getting tossed by the media as an apparent justification for choking out a mentally unstable homeless person. But, wouldn't a marine know how to restrain without fatally choking? That vid was literally overkill, including another person holding his arms simultaneously.
 

Darrkman

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Keep an eye of what you see in the news AND in this thread. A lot of people will try to make Neely out to be the boogieman because he was yelling in the subway car. Its getting so crazy they even trying to say how he "violently threw his jacket to the ground so you could hear the zipper hit the floor". I'm not making that up....they're trying to say throwing your jacket on the floor is violence and justifying someone getting killed over it. Don't be fooled the next thing that you will see is some Black man getting into an argument over a seat and if he is killed the excuse of him yelling or arguing will be that it was violent and had to be done.

Some of yall aren't thinking this through. This can have the same implications like that bullshit stand your ground law in Florida where YOU can start an argument and then if the person you started with approaches you you can kill them and get off.

Always amazed at how many so called Black people on this message board will cape for the shit that white people do.
 

slewdem100

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Choke was locked in too long I agree. But reading your posts you don't live in NYC and take the MTA. I've seen a chick get spat on by someone like Neely before and seen someone get elbowed. Now wouldn't you be on attack mode if you're locked inside a train car for 2 to 3 mins with someone like that?

People outside NYC don't know what we deal with in the subways when covid showed up. In the early pandemic there was a serial killer loose in the subway. Like I've said, too much input from outsiders on this situation but don't know how grimey the subways can be when they dont use it on a daily basis or had anything happen to them.

I just find it odd people are heated about a potential child rapist that got choked out to death when he was in the train screaming "I don't care if I do life in jail". Ninjas acting like they wouldn't be on edge locked in a train. Again, there was a serial killer loose in the train system a year ago, local NYC news not national.

But miss me with that bullshit, ninja was going to keep his assaults up attacking someone's mother and probably succeed kidnapping a child down the line :smh:. Again, it seems like people want justice over a potential child rapist which is wild as fuck :smh:. Even in the link I posted theres a 10 year old reddit post about him, ninja was a problem. The messed up system contributed to it also with a flawed design. But nobody should be attacked unprovoked nor should a child be kidnapped by a grown as man :smh:
The people you are debating with all live in NYC, they simply have a different opinion than you

I dont live in NYC and I am not going to shed any tears over Neely based on his prior actions...he shouldnt have been on the streets with the shit that he has done and hopefully this shines a spotlight on the horrible way mental health is dealt with in this country....I don't even have an issue with the White dude trying to subdue him

But a 15 minute chokehold that ends in death can't be swept under the rug just because the victim's mental sickness led to violence on prior occasions...Neely's prior violence wasn't known to anyone on the train at the time...don't be fooled...this is about them trying to let a son of a cop get away with a killing...if we accept everything the cop's son says, its still at least manslaughter
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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hold up!!!

Jordans MOMS was MURDERED????

and how come we dont know NOTHING about

the choke killer and his accomplices, The nypd knows

exactly who the choke killer is, yet they just picking and

choosing to discuss the bruh and details of his past.

But they left out the Mother being Murdered.....and other crucial

details like the past of the choke killer...
 
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