Marc Lamont Hill suffers a mild heart attack

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Shaka54

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Vaccines have been known to cause blood clots. Will Pfizer will look into this and prove the vaccine had nothing to do with it? Or will people say “the vaccine had nothing to do with it” and move on.

Stay safe people
He had SURGERY. My wife had DVT from tearing her ACL and MCL and the ER didn't do anything but prescribe painkillers and gave her a walker. By the time she could see a specialist on Monday, the clots had already formed and were on the move.

She was on blood thinners for over six months. Once she was taken off of it, they would STILL find small clots a couple more times as the source of leg pain.

She also developed blood clots during her chemotherapy. She seemed to be susceptible to them. :dunno:

Most of my post-surgical discharge papers would always warn me of the possibility of developing a blood clot and what I should be aware of and when I should take my ass to the ER in the event of [...] symptoms.

It likely has NOT A DAMN THING to do with the vaccine.
 

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It's actually common for a 42 year old man to have deep vein thrombosis which causes blood clots in your legs. That clot left his leg and travel to his lung would cause them to have a heart attack. You dummy what you don't understand or heart attacks are the result of something else. You're sitting here trying to swear up and down it's cause of vaccinations when the dude said right in his post it was because of deep vein thrombosis which is common in men his age after a surgery you know like the surgery he had to fix his Achilles tendon.

God damn it's really obvious that your ass should have been someone your mom had swallowed. I feel like smacking the shit out of her for letting some dumb fuck Splash off inside her.
You sound silly. Do you know how many surgeries like that they do every year? Do you think it's "common' for 42 year old men to have heart attacks after getting achilles surgery?

I guarantee if it were your brother or father who had a heart attack at 42 after getting a leg surgery, and the doctor told you "well it's common" you'd have a fit.

You point out that vein thrombosis is a possibility, you are right. No one is denying that. My point is that it is extremely rare for a young man to have a heart attack after surgery especially after doctors make you wear a boot and give you medication after (as they undoubtedly did with Marc).

So why did it happen to him? Could it be just chance (he was unlucky), maybe. But could it also be that somehow the vaccine may have made him more prone to vein thrombosis, just like the study that I posted above - maybe.

The fact that you're not interested in investigating whether the vaccine had anything to do with it is unfortunate.
 

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There is no such thing as scientifically proving a negative claim. C'mon , you know better! That's learned in high school science class.
Well that's nice. I guess we should just assume the vaccine had nothing to do with it, and move along. Nothing to see here.
 

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You sound silly. Do you know how many surgeries like that they do every year? Do you think it's "common' for 42 year old men to have heart attacks after getting achilles surgery?

I guarantee if it were your brother or father who had a heart attack at 42 after getting a leg surgery, and the doctor told you "well it's common" you'd have a fit.

You point out that vein thrombosis is a possibility, you are right. No one is denying that. My point is that it is extremely rare for a young man to have a heart attack after surgery especially after doctors make you wear a boot and give you medication after (as they undoubtedly did with Marc).

So why did it happen to him? Could it be just chance (he was unlucky), maybe. But could it also be that somehow the vaccine may have made him more prone to vein thrombosis, just like the study that I posted above - maybe.

The fact that you're not interested in investigating whether the vaccine had anything to do with it is unfortunate.

I'm amazed that your dumb ass is actually doubling down on being stupid. Actually, I'm not amazed I take that back, the problem is you don't realize just how stupid you really are. At this point you're probably talking shit just the troll because no one could see that much evidence and still swear up and down it was cause of a vaccine. Especially with how common deep vein thrombosis is in someone Marc Lamont Hill's age who just had surgery.
 

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Well that's nice. I guess we should just assume the vaccine had nothing to do with it, and move along. Nothing to see here.

Two things I have vowed to never be dragged into again. That being, arguments or debates concerning whether one should or shouldn't receive a Covid vaccine, and the other being, whether the Earth is really, indeed flat. Despite the fact that Darwin extrapolated some erroneous, or at best "non-objective" conclusions with his evolutionary research, one conclusion of his is abundantly true and clear. For the survival and advancement of any species, the most cognitively and cerebrally "limited" of that species needs to be allowed to die off, .... and hopefully before they reproduce.
 
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babygwirl18

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It's actually not that rare depending on the surgery which is why post-surgery they normally put you on blood thinners for a few weeks.

They also monitor the dosage of blood thinner during that time and may alter the disage
And they didn't do this with Marc? You're acting like he got his surgery in some back alley. He got good medical care, and follow up and still had a heart attack. That is rare.
 

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Don't you see the irony in your post? You're saying that I have confirmation bias, when in fact it's you that does.

I'm not saying the Covid vaccine is deadly, or that it 100% certainly caused the pulmonary embolism. I'm just pointing out that others have suggested a causal link between the two, and that it should be explored.

You, on the other hand are saying that we should ignore evidence of a causal link - which hasn't been fully explored. Your reasoning is that you "don't believe" that it could have possibly caused it, and that it was "100% certainly" caused by the surgery.

Maybe you're right. But have we fallen so far as a society that we stop exploring evidence of possible harm???

It's you that has the confirmation bias, that the vaccine is "safe". All I'm asking for is exploration.
Bitch shut up gotdamn
 

babygwirl18

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I'm amazed that your dumb ass is actually doubling down on being stupid. Actually, I'm not amazed I take that back, the problem is you don't realize just how stupid you really are. At this point you're probably talking shit just the troll because no one could see that much evidence and still swear up and down it was cause of a vaccine. Especially with how common deep vein thrombosis is in someone Marc Lamont Hill's age who just had surgery.
Again - you're projecting you're own ignorance on me. You are refusing to see any nuance to the vaccination debate. To you it's black and white.

Me: I think it's worthwhile investigating whether the vaccine could have caused this health issue.
You: The vaccine 100% didn't cause this issue, it is common for healthy 42 year old men to have heart attacks after surgery.

Which one of the two statements above sounds reasonable and fact based.
 

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Again - you're projecting you're own ignorance on me. You are refusing to see any nuance to the vaccination debate. To you it's black and white.

Me: I think it's worthwhile investigating whether the vaccine could have caused this health issue.
You: The vaccine 100% didn't cause this issue, it is common for healthy 42 year old men to have heart attacks after surgery.

Which one of the two statements above sounds reasonable and fact based.

Let me make this simple for you. You're saying the equivalent of....

"Damn that football player planted his foot wrong on astroturf and tore his ACL. Maybe the vaccine caused it"

See how stupid that sounds.....you sound just as stupid.
 

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And they didn't do this with Marc? You're acting like he got his surgery in some back alley. He got good medical care, and follow up and still had a heart attack. That is rare.

They may have and the dosage may have been wrong.

I didn't get blood thinners until I was released and went home and in the first two weeks, they changed the dosage twice.....

And like everything else it mitigates the risk it doesn't eliminate it.

And how do you know he got good care? Are you assuming he for good care because he is on TV or makes a certain amount of money ?

Maybe a few of his nurses are Trumpers and think he is just an uppity nigga.
 

playahaitian

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Anecdotal evidence is weak. In your case, this is confirmation bias. You could have just as well googled, “causes of DVT”. Or even sought out stats on what the most common causes for it are. But instead you…
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Or it might’ve had to do with his achilles surgery that he spoke about in the second sentence.

Also unless they sprinkled the vaccine on his achilles during the surgery, then the vaccine doesn’t appear to be the cause.

Yup ^^^^^

occam's razor
 

babygwirl18

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Let me make this simple for you. You're saying the equivalent of....

"Damn that football player planted his foot wrong on astroturf and tore his ACL. Maybe the vaccine caused it"

See how stupid that sounds.....you sound just as stupid.
I posted above an excerpt from a medical journal where a woman companies of having the very same issue as Marc, which came shortly after the vaccine.

You obviously have your mind made up, that the vaccine is safe that’s you’re right. Plenty of people don’t agree with you, and it’s not because they are all dumb, idiot, trump supporting CAC bots.

There is a phenomenon is psychology called the Dunning–Kruger effect. It’s when people with very little information are convinced that they know everything. They refuse to listen to others, and call them “stupid” They speak with certainty and clarity, even when their knowledge is limited. Sounds like that’s what you have.
 

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Don't you see the irony in your post? You're saying that I have confirmation bias, when in fact it's you that does.

I'm not saying the Covid vaccine is deadly, or that it 100% certainly caused the pulmonary embolism. I'm just pointing out that others have suggested a causal link between the two, and that it should be explored.

You, on the other hand are saying that we should ignore evidence of a causal link - which hasn't been fully explored. Your reasoning is that you "don't believe" that it could have possibly caused it, and that it was "100% certainly" caused by the surgery.

Maybe you're right. But have we fallen so far as a society that we stop exploring evidence of possible harm???

It's you that has the confirmation bias, that the vaccine is "safe". All I'm asking for is exploration.
Clearly you have NO idea what confirmation bias is, otherwise you wouldn't have attempted to throw it back on me. lol

Soon as you saw "blood clots" you rushed to type COVID vaccine as a cause of his blood clots that resulted in his heart attack - as if there are not a ton of other things that can cause blood clots. In fact, he said specifically what the doctors diagnosed- but you zoomed past that. You found a single instance in which it was claimed that someone got a blood clot from the vaccine- and ignored all other possibilities because you are anti-vaxx. Anything to prove to yourself that vaccine is bad. SMH. It would be more dignified for you to just admit you jumped the gun.

You're all over the place. I never said I didn't believe a vaccine could have possibly caused his blood clots and I never said anything at all about his surgery being the cause of it.

You're flailing.
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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da fuck, sounds like a another medical fuckin mishap,

how the fuck you go in for a foot problem,

then within days, end up with a heart condition....

a new york jew wouldve been knee deep in

a lawsuit by now..
 

babygwirl18

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Surgery is one of the major causes of deep vein thrombosis (DVT), a blood clot that forms in the deep veins of your body, often in your leg.

DVT is common after an operation because you're usually staying in bed for long periods of time while you recover. When you stop moving, blood flows more slowly in your deep veins, which can lead to a clot.


So its common for healthy 42 year old men to have heart attacks after achilles surgery? Is that what you're saying that these articles say?

Damn we're really in trouble. All reason is gone.
 

ScorpDiesel

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I posted above an excerpt from a medical journal where a woman companies of having the very same issue as Marc, which came shortly after the vaccine.

You obviously have your mind made up, that the vaccine is safe that’s you’re right. Plenty of people don’t agree with you, and it’s not because they are all dumb, idiot, trump supporting CAC bots.

There is a phenomenon is psychology called the Dunning–Kruger effect. It’s when people with very little information are convinced that they know everything. They refuse to listen to others, and call them “stupid” They speak with certainty and clarity, even when their knowledge is limited. Sounds like that’s what you have.
What's hilarious and ironic, though you have no idea wtf the Dunning-Kruger Effect is, you're the prime example of it. People who think they know shit (you) in reality don't know shit. And people who know shit (not you) in reality know a lot.


Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain (you) greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.
 

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So its common for healthy 42 year old men to have heart attacks after achilles surgery? Is that what you're saying that these articles say?

Damn we're really in trouble. All reason is gone.
You’re a fucking dumb bitch. Anybody can have complications from surgery. Jesus Christ
 

BigDaddyBuk

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Vaccines have been known to cause blood clots. Will Pfizer will look into this and prove the vaccine had nothing to do with it? Or will people say “the vaccine had nothing to do with it” and move on.

Stay safe people
Risk factors for DVT include:


  • Age. Being older than 60 increases your risk of DVT, though it can occur at any age.
  • Sitting for long periods of time, such as when driving or flying. When your legs remain still for hours, your calf muscles don't contract. Muscle contractions normally help blood circulate.
  • Prolonged bed rest, such as during a long hospital stay, or paralysis. Blood clots can form in the calves of your legs if your calf muscles don't move for long periods.
  • Injury or surgery. Injury to your veins or surgery can increase the risk of blood clots.
  • Pregnancy. Pregnancy increases the pressure in the veins in your pelvis and legs. Women with an inherited clotting disorder are especially at risk. The risk of blood clots from pregnancy can continue for up to six weeks after you have your baby.
  • Birth control pills (oral contraceptives) or hormone replacement therapy. Both can increase your blood's ability to clot.
  • Being overweight or obese. Being overweight increases the pressure in the veins in your pelvis and legs.
  • Smoking. Smoking affects blood clotting and circulation, which can increase your risk of DVT.
  • Cancer. Some forms of cancer increase substances in your blood that cause your blood to clot. Some forms of cancer treatment also increase the risk of blood clots.
  • Heart failure. This increases your risk of DVT and pulmonary embolism. Because people with heart failure have limited heart and lung function, the symptoms caused by even a small pulmonary embolism are more noticeable.
  • Inflammatory bowel disease. Bowel diseases, such as Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis, increase the risk of DVT.
  • A personal or family history of DVT or PE. If you or someone in your family has had one or both of these, you might be at greater risk of developing DVT.
  • Genetics. Some people inherit genetic risk factors or disorders, such as factor V Leiden, that make their blood clot more easily. An inherited disorder on its own might not cause blood clots unless combined with one or more other risk factors.
  • No known risk factor. Sometimes, a blood clot in a vein can occur with no apparent underlying risk factor. This is called an unprovoked VTE.
cot DAMN youre a fucking asshole.
 

APOPHIS

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Damn, he's way too young. He's in good shape, too.
Shit like this scares me.
I absolute hate hospitals and doctors and refuse to go get check but I gotta put that shit aside and make sure I'm good.

Get well, bruh.
 
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ScorpDiesel

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Damn, he's way too young. He's in food shape, too.
Shit like this scares me.
I absolute hate hospitals and doctors and refuse to go get check but I gotta put that shit aside and make sure I'm good.

Get well, bruh.
You hear about car, train and plane accidents, but don't think twice about riding in one. Why is going to the doctor any different?
 
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