Marvel woke up today and said......let me remind y'all who the fuck we are!!

[CptMARVEL]

Again, I agree. I think the "What If" comics were an excellent vehicle for writing unconventional stories. They could explore alternate arc without messing up the original comic's backgrounds and over all flavor. Jane can't have the same richness of history as Thor does.

I remember a Thor storyline where Thor was hurt or something and he met his Grandfather Buri. Thor never knew who he was, but it made a great storyline. Buri got Thor back on his feet and back into fighting shape. Jane can't have that, it won't make sense. Unless it's in a "What If" scenario.

But the way they are telling the stories now, they seem to expect the traditionalists to just accept it because they wrote it. Naw.... I like shit to make sense.

The way they're writing now, I bet soon we can expect a female Galactus, Namor, Blue Marvel, and, Thanos.

Yep.
You can COUNT on it.
All the shit that made you watch the original MCU films up 'til Endgame is done and over.
Now they're running purely on name recognition and past success and knowing audiences will pay to watch any old bullshit they now produce.
So, they figured that now is the time to push that feminist/LGBTQ/race swap crap and call it "diversity & representation". When in reality it's nothing but pandering to specific demographics, instead of just telling great stories...

There ain't NO WAY you're gonna tell me that current day MCU films and streaming series (with the exception of No Way Home) are as satisfying or fulfilling as earlier MCU films or the Netflix era of series...

 

[Tito_Jackson]

The way they're writing now, I bet soon we can expect a female Galactus, Namor, Blue Marvel, and, Thanos.

 

[D'Evils]

The Mouse signing dead people to 20 yr deals...

Keep getting those checks... Lol

 

[stizz3000]

 

[stizz3000]

Alot of stuff in this thread deserves it own thread.

 

[eagle force]

Yep.
You can COUNT on it.
All the shit that made you watch the original MCU films up 'til Endgame is done and over.
Now they're running purely on name recognition and past success and knowing audiences will pay to watch any old bullshit they now produce.
So, they figured that now is the time to push that feminist/LGBTQ/race swap crap and call it "diversity & representation". When in reality it's nothing but pandering to specific demographics, instead of just telling great stories...

There ain't NO WAY you're gonna tell me that current day MCU films and streaming series (with the exception of No Way Home) are as satisfying or fulfilling as earlier MCU films or the Netflix era of series...

yeah all this is true

the MCU is becoming the movie version of the CW arrowverse-and the CGI quality has gone to shit(shout out to she hulk)

 

[Politic Negro]

‘Daredevil’ Disney+ Series in the Works With Matt Corman, Chris Ord Set to Write (EXCLUSIVE)

A new "Daredevil" series is moving forward at Disney+, with Matt Corman and Chris Ord attached to write and executive produce.

variety.com

 

[stizz3000]

 

[mrdiego2020]

Yep.
You can COUNT on it.
All the shit that made you watch the original MCU films up 'til Endgame is done and over.
Now they're running purely on name recognition and past success and knowing audiences will pay to watch any old bullshit they now produce.
So, they figured that now is the time to push that feminist/LGBTQ/race swap crap and call it "diversity & representation". When in reality it's nothing but pandering to specific demographics, instead of just telling great stories...

There ain't NO WAY you're gonna tell me that current day MCU films and streaming series (with the exception of No Way Home) are as satisfying or fulfilling as earlier MCU films or the Netflix era of series...

been saying this for a while now and im not against females starring in movies but everything movie wise cartoon or show wise stars a lead chick and its just no believable most of the times..one again in dr strange 2 all the men was getting whooped on and this young chick puts wanda in her place im like come on now..its cool if most of the movies made since but it dont its just make this female the lead star and for get the back story to her we're marvel...its like this is all the moies within the past 6 or 7 years..like the last star wars movies i mean they just threw her at us like we knew who she was...its just crazy how there doing it..

 

[playahaitian]

 

[darth frosty]

 

[CptMARVEL]

been saying this for a while now and im not against females starring in movies but everything movie wise cartoon or show wise stars a lead chick and its just no believable most of the times..one again in dr strange 2 all the men was getting whooped on and this young chick puts wanda in her place im like come on now..its cool if most of the movies made since but it dont its just make this female the lead star and for get the back story to her we're marvel...its like this is all the moies within the past 6 or 7 years..like the last star wars movies i mean they just threw her at us like we knew who she was...its just crazy how there doing it..

This man gets it.
It's NOT anti-woman to say that you're not digging the current crop of "strong female empowerment" films, TV, streaming series and animation.
Because more often than not, in order to "empower" these women, it almost ALWAYS comes at the expense of the men or the male hero.
Generally speaking; in order to prop up the female hero, the male heroes are:
- Dumbed down.
- Incompetent.
- Comic relief.
- Need to be saved by a woman.
- Always telling her she's either better, stronger, smarter or more capable than he is.
- Need to be taken down a peg by a stronger, better female hero.

Think about it.
After getting his ass beat for the 1st time, we effectively NEVER saw The Incredible Hulk again.
He went from this:

to this

All in the span of ONE fucking movie.
And sadly, he never had a single bad ass moment of redemption against Thanos despite being a founding member of The Avengers.
And now; this pussified "Professor Hulk" is poised to turn over the reigns to his female cousin.
Don't get me wrong, I love The She-Hulk. and I WILL watch this series, but I can already see where it's headed and who is being replaced.

Next up:

​

 

[stizz3000]

 

[spider705]

been saying this for a while now and im not against females starring in movies but everything movie wise cartoon or show wise stars a lead chick and its just no believable most of the times..one again in dr strange 2 all the men was getting whooped on and this young chick puts wanda in her place im like come on now..its cool if most of the movies made since but it dont its just make this female the lead star and for get the back story to her we're marvel...its like this is all the moies within the past 6 or 7 years..like the last star wars movies i mean they just threw her at us like we knew who she was...its just crazy how there doing it..

Huh? Put Wanda in her place? What does that even mean?

 

[Gemini]

 

[mrdiego2020]

Huh? Put Wanda in her place? What does that even mean?

was going toe to toe with her thats what i mean by my statement.

 

[mrdiego2020]

This man gets it.
It's NOT anti-woman to say that you're not digging the current crop of "strong female empowerment" films, TV, streaming series and animation.
Because more often than not, in order to "empower" these women, it almost ALWAYS comes at the expense of the men or the male hero.
Generally speaking; in order to prop up the female hero, the male heroes are:
- Dumbed down.
- Incompetent.
- Comic relief.
- Need to be saved by a woman.
- Always telling her she's either better, stronger, smarter or more capable than he is.
- Need to be taken down a peg by a stronger, better female hero.

Think about it.
After getting his ass beat for the 1st time, we effectively NEVER saw The Incredible Hulk again.
He went from this:

to this

All in the span of ONE fucking movie.
And sadly, he never had a single bad ass moment of redemption against Thanos despite being a founding member of The Avengers.
And now; this pussified "Professor Hulk" is poised to turn over the reigns to his female cousin.
Don't get me wrong, I love The She-Hulk. and I WILL watch this series, but I can already see where it's headed and who is being replaced.

Next up:

​

THANK YOU AND WELL SAID.its crazy how there doing this.i agree with everything you said its not being sexes' its just not believable..you also right about the replacement of thor lol iron man already was replaced by a female matter fact all them was replaced ironman ,thor,hulk,hawkeye has a replacement, cap has a female replacement lol and the bad thing is SHE USED THE SAME LINE AS THE MALE CAP lol i mean come on ...the ones that seen dr strange 2 will get that..i think the worst part in movie history was in end game when big strone powerful men got whooped and beat and all the woman came out crushed everyone and did the women's walk with all them in a row lol i was like im done..

 

[CptMARVEL]

THANK YOU AND WELL SAID.its crazy how there doing this.i agree with everything you said its not being sexes' its just not believable..you also right about the replacement of thor lol iron man already was replaced by a female matter fact all them was replaced ironman ,thor,hulk,hawkeye has a replacement, cap has a female replacement lol and the bad thing is SHE USED THE SAME LINE AS THE MALE CAP lol i mean come on ...the ones that seen dr strange 2 will get that..i think the worst part in movie history was in end game when big strone powerful men got whooped and beat and all the woman came out crushed everyone and did the women's walk with all them in a row lol i was like im done..

Exactly.
I have absolutely NO issues with strong, independant female characters, nor am I threatened by having them in popular entertainment. But a big part of the problem here is HOW they are being introduced and being depicted.
As you pointed out, All of these characters from the original Avengers are out:

And with the exception of Capatin America, they've all been (or will be) replaced by women.

And don't even get me started on this sad affair...

You bought up Dr. Strange...
When you look at Dr. Strange, that dude really has been royally fucked over by Kevin Feige and his replacement agenda. They want SO HARD for him to bend a knee and not be recognized as THE BEST MYSTIC in the MCU. Ever since his return, he has to now acknowledge Wong as "The Sorcerer Supreme". And they even made a point of him having to bow to Wong. (Something that Wong never had to do for him, I might add...)
Don't for one minute believe that Dr. Strange will not be replaced by Clea as "The Sorcerer Supreme" now that she's been introduced to the film.

This shit is sad, annoying and depressing all at the same time.
​

 

[mrdiego2020]

Exactly.
I have absolutely NO issues with strong, independant female characters, nor am I threatened by having them in popular entertainment. But a big part of the problem here is HOW they are being introduced and being depicted.
As you pointed out, All of these characters from the original Avengers are out:

And with the exception of Capatin America, they've all been (or will be) replaced by women.

And don't even get me started on this sad affair...

You bought up Dr. Strange...
When you look at Dr. Strange, that dude really has been royally fucked over by Kevin Feige and his replacement agenda. They want SO HARD for him to bend a knee and not be recognized as THE BEST MYSTIC in the MCU. Ever since his return, he has to now acknowledge Wong as "The Sorcerer Supreme". And they even made a point of him having to bow to Wong. (Something that Wong never had to do for him, I might add...)
Don't for one minute believe that Dr. Strange will not be replaced by Clea as "The Sorcerer Supreme" now that she's been introduced to the film.

This shit is sad, annoying and depressing all at the same time.
​

yea i agree as well its how they are introduced.. but one thing i have to correct you on in dr strange captain America was replaced remember she had the British flag on her shield .like i said she had the never to say captains line while fighting ,ol girl was like arent you tired she was like i can do this all night lol i was like see its happening again..the first time i started to notice was when batgirl show came out and she was like she better then batman or something alone that line then the darn i am woman song came on i sad note im not watching that lol..look at this trailer in full you will l see what i mean..

 

[CptMARVEL]

yea i agree as well its how they are introduced.. but one thing i have to correct you on in dr strange captain America was replaced remember she had the British flag on her shield .like i said she had the never to say captains line while fighting ,ol girl was like arent you tired she was like i can do this all night lol i was like see its happening again..the first time i started to notice was when batgirl show came out and she was like she better then batman or something alone that line then the darn i am woman song came on i sad note im not watching that lol..look at this trailer in full you will l see what i mean..

Nah, bro.
The Peggy Carter we see in MoM is an alternate reality version of Cap.
Remember, THIS is the "new" Captain America...

...because in this universe, Steve Rogers & Peggy Carter finally kept their date:

And got married and had a good life together.
(Even though it COMPLETELY wiped out her children and marriage to another man from that reality...)
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[stizz3000]

People who complain about comic book movies just different....not in a good way

 

[darth frosty]

 

[tallblacknyc]

But you putting everything in a pot bro

Was it over saturation
Bad writing
Over exposure
Changing fan base
Sales
Hollywood

Cause now you talking a wide ranging documentary level discussion about the downfall of modern comic book publishing

Having more women and different races etc be heroes is not an issue (no pun intended) in and of itself.

Only if people choose it to be.

The realization is nobody would want to watch the movie commando if some 100 pound becky was suppose to be the matrix.. it’s not about being anti female it’s just some of the fighting sequences look extra half ass and wack.. it’s already bad with making cacs the savior but now they got 100 pound Beckys with shitty fighting techniques allegedly dominating fights.. there are definitely some good female actors that can pull these sequences off and are more believable, but lot of these broads just ain’t..this is where nigs get turned off.. see scarlet witch can get away with the I’m going nutso with superpowers but some random chick whose not believable becomes boring

 

[D'Evils]

 

[playahaitian]

The realization is nobody would want to watch the movie commando if some 100 pound becky was suppose to be the matrix.. it’s not about being anti female it’s just some of the fighting sequences look extra half ass and wack.. it’s already bad with making cacs the savior but now they got 100 pound Beckys with shitty fighting techniques allegedly dominating fights.. there are definitely some good female actors that can pull these sequences off and are more believable, but lot of these broads just ain’t..this is where nigs get turned off.. see scarlet witch can get away with the I’m going nutso with superpowers but some random chick whose not believable becomes boring

Yes that true

But these white dudes are horrible too

Remember iron fist.

We just had a great Japanese action series on Netflix with a bad ass lead woman

In fact there were two series, another one with that Russian spy

Both OUTSTANDING.

Like I been saying yeah there is obvious agenda pushing and a lot of times it's lazy and forced and badly done

But there also bad projects with the same exact problems but they don't say sh*t

These dudes tearing mcls to justify they woman hating.

You don't like it?

Don't watch it

but they try SO HARD to hate anything with a woman in it.

I don't take them seriously.

But whatever it actually has the OPPOSITE effect so let them go.

 

[Gemini]

 

[NightMare Paint]

People who complain about comic book movies just different....not in a good way

There is only ONE person on Earth who should be playing Namor and it's COSSUTIUS! The NASTIEST nigga in Rome!

 

[phanatic]

This man gets it.
It's NOT anti-woman to say that you're not digging the current crop of "strong female empowerment" films, TV, streaming series and animation.
Because more often than not, in order to "empower" these women, it almost ALWAYS comes at the expense of the men or the male hero.
Generally speaking; in order to prop up the female hero, the male heroes are:
- Dumbed down.
- Incompetent.
- Comic relief.
- Need to be saved by a woman.
- Always telling her she's either better, stronger, smarter or more capable than he is.
- Need to be taken down a peg by a stronger, better female hero.

Think about it.
After getting his ass beat for the 1st time, we effectively NEVER saw The Incredible Hulk again.
He went from this:

to this

All in the span of ONE fucking movie.
And sadly, he never had a single bad ass moment of redemption against Thanos despite being a founding member of The Avengers.
And now; this pussified "Professor Hulk" is poised to turn over the reigns to his female cousin.
Don't get me wrong, I love The She-Hulk. and I WILL watch this series, but I can already see where it's headed and who is being replaced.

Next up:

​

I agree. Virtue signaling is insulting. It's not empowerment if there is no actual soul behind it. It might as well be a kente cloth avatar on a company on Juneteenth.

 

[Gemini]

 

[darth frosty]

 

[Gemini]

 

[Gemini]

 

[Gemini]

 

[Gemini]

 

[Gemini]

 

[Gemini]