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Which of the 3 Sugars would've beaten Mayweather?

  • Sugar Ray Robinson

    Votes: 4 57.1%
  • Sugar Ray Leonard

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Sugar Shane Mosley

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Total voters
    7
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Dawson gives up WBC belt; Diaconu now lightheavy champ

Chad Dawson has informed the WBC that he will not defend his WBC light heavyweight championship against Adrian Diaconu and therefore is relinquishing the title. Both fighters had gone to a purse offer that was won by Romanian promoter Gangkor Promotions.

The WBC has released the following statement: The WBC feels very disillusioned with Dawson’s decision, as he was going to make the highest purse of his life against Diaconu, as well as the WBC always supporting Dawson since he won the WBC Continental Americas title in 2003 and later asking permission to the organization not to fight Adrian Diaconu in a final elimination bout, but be allowed to fight directly against Tomasz Adamek for the title in a voluntary defense, which the WBC accepted and to become the WBC champion of the world in 2007. Once again the WBC supported Chad Dawson allowing him to make a voluntary defense against Glen Johnson, in which Chad Dawson signed a letter agreeing to fight Diaconu next. It happens that he found the way not to fight Diaconu again. It seems that the reason for Dawson not to comply with the WBC Rules is because a commitment that he has with a television network, which is apparently interfering with the rights and infrastructure of the WBC, which must be addressed in the near future.
 

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Junior promises birthday gift

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, the Son of the Legend, says he's ready for his biggest challenge, taking on puncher Matt Vanda in Hermosillo, Mexico on Top Rank's Latin Fury 5 this Saturday night. Chavez Sr., celebrating his 46th birthday, will walk his son to the ring. "The best gift I can give my father is a spectacular knockout," Chavez Jr said today. Chavez Jr has a record of 36-0-1; Vanda is 38-6. Chavez Jr vs. Vanda plus a world title fight matching Ulises Solis vs. Glenn Donair will be available live Saturday night on an Azteca America telecast at 10 pm eastern/7 pm pacific.
 

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Rahman ready to rock Toney

Hasim Rahman, training in Phoenix, has sparred over 150 rounds while getting ready to tangle with James Toney on Wednesday, July 16 at the Pechanga Resort & Casino. "The Rock is training at a high level," said chief trainer Marshall Kauffman. "He's sparred 12 rounds in a single day a number of times. I like his work rate and I am convinced he will beat Toney next week." It's an important fight, titled 'Last Chance.' "We win, we move on to much bigger fights," Kauffman said. Rahman plans to be Los Angeles on Sunday eve to get ready for fight week activities. The scheduled 12-round NABO heavyweight title bout -- presented by Goossen Tutor Promotions and Don King Productions, in association with Top Rank – will headline an FSN "Best Damn Fight Night" telecast (11PM ET/8PM PT) from the Pechanga Resort & Casino in Temecula, CA. Tickets are $150, $100 and $50.
 

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Boxing Buzz

Unbeaten super lightweight Mike Alvarado of Denver is keying on "strength and conditioning" while getting set to take on former champion Cesar Bazan on the "The Battle," the mega event featuring Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas on July 26. Alvarado, 21-0, is one of Top Rank's best young fighters. "He's focused, running 4 miles a day, doing all of his cardio work, getting ready the right way," said manager and chief trainer, Henry Delgado. Alvarado is training at Delgado's Boxing Gym in Arvada, Colorado.

More on Cotto/Margarito: Jesus Soto-Karass, chief sparring partner for Margarito, will be in the main event on the eve of Cotto vs Margarito. Soto-Karass will take on tough David Estrada in the main event at the Hard Rock Hotel-Casino on Friday, July 25. It's a Top Rank/Telefutura fight card with a 4:15 pm first bell and the televised Solo Boxeo Tecate bouts will begin at 5 pm.

Ticket update: Zab Judah vs. Joshua Clottey tickets on August 2 are off to a fiery start and a sellout will be expected at The Pearl, the beautiful 1,900-seat concert theatre at The Palms Hotel-Casino in Las Vegas. The 'Hawaiian Punch,' Brian Viloria, will be on the undercard.
 

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:yes::yes::yes:

Vazquez-Marquez was off the chain...But what about Casamayor-Katsidis?

Yeah, that fight was sick too, Pacquiao/Marquez II was good also.
But I think Cotto/Margarito has the potential to really be a Hagler/Hearns type of classic.
 

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Yeah, that fight was sick too, Pacquiao/Marquez II was good also.
But I think Cotto/Margarito has the potential to really be a Hagler/Hearns type of classic.

I was going to put Pac/Marquez up there, but I think Casamayor/Katsidis surpassed that...

It's definitely top 5 so far this year though :yes:
 

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Dunno if anyone you caught Friday Night Fights...but uh...man Gomez was ass chunks.

Dude looked like John Ruiz out there...Even if he didn't break his hand they probably would've stopped it...He didn't win any rounds :smh:

What about that KO in the Findley/Fonfara matchup? Looked like Fonfara didn't know what to do in the ring. I mean dude was at least 4 inches taller and he couldn't play keep away...He KNEW that if Findley had a chance to get close, it's chin-checkin time...And what do you know, Andrzej got his ass rocked...
 

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Dude looked like John Ruiz out there...Even if he didn't break his hand they probably would've stopped it...He didn't win any rounds :smh:

What about that KO in the Findley/Fonfara matchup? Looked like Fonfara didn't know what to do in the ring. I mean dude was at least 4 inches taller and he couldn't play keep away...He KNEW that if Findley had a chance to get close, it's chin-checkin time...And what do you know, Andrzej got his ass rocked...

Damm I missed those fights, forgot all about that shit, instead I watched that Love Guru shit wit Mike Myers, yo don't even waste ya'll time with that flick...:smh:
 

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Damm I missed those fights, forgot all about that shit, instead I watched that Love Guru shit wit Mike Myers, yo don't even waste ya'll time with that flick...:smh:

Too late. Already seen it with my girl...two hours of my life i'll never get back.

Now I'm sure yall haven't forgotten, but Klitschko-Thompson on HBO @ 4:30et/1:30pt.
 

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Too late. Already seen it with my girl...two hours of my life i'll never get back.

Now I'm sure yall haven't forgotten, but Klitschko-Thompson on HBO @ 4:30et/1:30pt.

Yeah, I'm still mad about those two hours..:smh:
No doubt god I didn't forget, I'm still waiting for somebody other than Ross Purity to take that Russian out....He might be effective but to me he just fights in a pussy style....his brother was much more entertaining, at least against Lennox he was! But that's always the lure of the heavyweight fights, somebody might just get ktfo!!
 

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Good first round for Thompson...he's very active up close getting those body shots in...

As long as he avoids the big right hands by Klitschko he could do something...

He's having a bad start to the 2nd, though...
 

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Yooooo.....

Thompson is KILLIN Klischko in the body...He's tiring him in there...

Wladimir should do the same thing because the jab ain't doing much to nullify Tony's guard...
 

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Santos a champion again

A massive left hand that knocked out reigning WBA titlist Joachim Alcine in round six made mandatory challenger Daniel Santos (32-3-1, 23 KOs) a champion for the third time in front of 9,000 stunned fans at Uniprix Stadium in Montreal. Santos, who was fighting for only the third time since 2005, stated "I feel great, I feel happy," said Santos of being champion again. "It's been too much time," said the former WBO titleholder who ruled uninterrupted in two weight categories for over five years from 2000 through 2005. "The first four or five rounds, everybody's strong," he stated, "but rounds six to twelve are championship rounds. Many people are going down in those rounds but we're going up. My corner was just telling me to stay, not worry, my time will come. I never went for the knockout, I just trained hard and this is what happened."
 

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Grant outworks King

Former heavyweight title challenger "Big" Michael Grant (44-3, 33 KOs) of Blue Bell, PA continued his quest for another shot at a world title with a workmanlike eight round unanimous decision victory over dangerous Demetrice King (14-16, 12 KOs) in the main event before a sparse crowd of 200 people at the National Guard Armory in Northeast Philadelphia, PA on Friday night. The card promoted by Southern Starr Promotions had several fights fall out, but had a competitive co-feature as light heavyweight Alexander Mancera (8-2, 5 KOs) of Queens, New York overcame a bad cut on his hairline and squeezed out a six round majority decision victory over Philly veteran Jameel “Black Gold” Wilson (13-14-3, 8 KOs).
 

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Word is that Barrera has official left Golden Boy Promotions due to them not being able to secure him a fight.

:smh::smh::smh:

Barrera just needs to do this....
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• Although HBO PPV and Golden Boy have announced the Joel Casamayor-Juan Manuel Marquez lightweight championship fight for Sept. 13, HBO PPV is prepared to do the Joe Calzaghe-Roy Jones fight on pay-per-view one week later. It would be the first time in history that HBO PPV backed pay-per-view cards on consecutive Saturdays. HBO isn't thrilled with the schedule, but is willing because it feels the cards target different audiences. Calzaghe-Jones organizers, headed by Jones' Square Ring, insist on going Sept. 20 instead of in November in order to stay as far away as they can from the Ricky Hatton-Paulie Malignaggi fight, which will take place Nov. 15 or Nov. 22. Both are major PPV events in the United Kingdom and aren't going to be scheduled in the same month (Hatton-Malignaggi will be on regular HBO in America).

• MMA star Andrei Arlovski, the former UFC heavyweight champion from Belarus, has been training for a boxing career under the tutelage of trainer Freddie Roach. Arlovski, who has an MMA bout July 19, likely will make his professional boxing debut Sept. 13 (HBO PPV) in the opening fight on the Casamayor-Marquez card in Las Vegas, according to Golden Boy.

• Junior welterweight Demetrius Hopkins (28-0-1, 11 KOs), the nephew of Bernard Hopkins, signed a promotional contract with Top Rank this week, manager Cameron Dunkin told ESPN.com. Hopkins had a falling out with Golden Boy Promotions earlier in the year and pulled out of a title shot against then-beltholder Junior Witter, which was supposed to be on HBO. Hopkins contended that his deal with Golden Boy, of which Bernard Hopkins is a part owner, was over but the company retained the right to match any offer. Dunkin said it passed and gave Demetrius a release. "He's signed with Top Rank. Everything is done," Dunkin said, adding that Hopkins' first fight under the deal probably would come in August.

• Dimitri Kirilov's junior bantamweight title defense against Vic Darchinyan on Aug. 2 (Showtime) finally has a home. It will take place at the Buffalo Run casino in Miami, Okla. The televised opener will feature super middleweight Andre Dirrell (15-0, 10 KOs), a bronze medal-receiving 2004 U.S. Olympian, who is coming off an impressive fifth-round knockout of Anthony Hanshaw on May 2. Organizers attempted to match him with top-10 contender Allan Green, but both fighters rejected the bout.

• Super middleweight titleholder Lucian Bute (22-0, 18 KOs) will face mandatory challenger Librado Andrade (27-1, 21 KOs) in his second defense Oct. 24 at the Bell Centre in Montreal, Golden Boy's David Itskowich told ESPN.com. He said he was going there for a Monday news conference to announce the fight. Andrade, who is promoted by Golden Boy, failed in a previous title shot, losing a lopsided decision for a version of the 168-pound belt to Mikkel Kessler in Denmark in March 2007.

• Promoter Gary Shaw and HBO are planning another "Night of the Rising Stars" card for "Boxing After Dark" Oct. 4, but minus junior middleweight James Kirkland, who severed ties with Shaw last month. Shaw presented a May card that included impressive victories by Kirkland, junior middleweight Alfredo Angulo and junior lightweight Yuriorkis Gamboa, the flashy 2004 Cuban Olympic gold medalist. Angulo and Gamboa are slated to fight on the next edition with a possible third fight being added.

• HBO has changed its plans for Aug. 2. Joshua Clottey and Zab Judah will still meet for a vacant welterweight belt in Las Vegas in the "Boxing After Dark" main event, but there won't be a second live fight. HBO hoped it would be lightweight prospect Anthony Peterson stepping up against "Kid Diamond" Almazbek Raiymkulov. But after Peterson's lackluster performance last week against Fernando Trejo, Top Rank decided Peterson wasn't ready for that level fight and wanted to match him with Jose Reyes, a bout HBO rejected. Peterson might still face Reyes on the card and if he does, HBO would air highlights. Plan B for the Aug. 2 card was junior middleweight Vanes Martirosyan, a 2004 U.S. Olympian, facing Andrey Tsurkan. However, Martirosyan injured his left hand battering Angel Hernandez on the Peterson-Trejo undercard and won't be available, Top Rank vice president Todd duBoef told ESPN.com.

• Junior bantamweight titlist Fernando Montiel's defense against Jose "Carita" Lopez, planned for the July 26 Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito HBO PPV card, has been called off. Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com that Montiel was having problems with his weight and would be unable to get down to 115 pounds in time for the fight. Arum did say, however, that Montiel intended to fight at 115 again. A card Arum would like to put together for late in the year would have Montiel in a unification fight with two-belt titleholder Cristian Mijares with a co-feature of junior bantamweight Jorge Arce facing Nonito Donaire, a flyweight titlist who would move up. Arum would like to then have the winners of the two bouts fight.

• The long overdue fight between bantamweight titlist Joseph Agbeko and mandatory challenger William Gonzalez (21-2, 19 KOs) has been scheduled. They're due to meet on a Don King card Aug. 2 in Ponce, Puerto Rico. Also scheduled: Juan Palacios versus Omar Soto for an interim strawweight title. Agbeko (25-1, 22 KOs) hasn't fought since impressively stopping Luis Perez in the seventh round to win a belt last September.

• Bell Gardens, Calif., junior flyweight Giovanni Segura (19-0-1, 15 KOs), who has waited a year for a mandatory shot against French titlist Brahim Asloum (23-2, 9 KOs), will have to wait more. His title shot, scheduled for July 26 in Cannes, France, was postponed this week because of a dispute between Asloum's team and French TV network Canal+ over how much the network would pay for the fight.

• Once again, heavyweight Odlanier Solis' step-up fight with former contender Francois Botha has been postponed. Solis, the 2004 Olympic heavyweight gold medalist who defected from Cuba to Germany, was supposed to face Botha on Saturday on Arena Box-Promotions' card in Turkey. However, according to Arena, Solis has an inflammation in his right arm and has withdrawn from the fight. It is the fourth time the fight has been postponed. Arena hopes to reschedule it again for August or September. But Saturday's card will still go on with Sinan Samil Sam facing Paolo Vidoz for the vacant European heavyweight title in the main event and recent Cuban defector and 2005 world amateur champion Erislandy Lara turning pro in a middleweight bout.

• Heavyweight Monte Barrett (34-6, 20 KOs), coming off an explosive first-round knockout of Tye Fields on last Saturday's Manny Pacquiao-David Diaz undercard, hopes the performance was good enough to land him an Oct. 18 fight with England's David Haye, the cruiserweight champion who is moving up in weight. Barrett, 37, was supposed to provide Fields with his first test but blew him out. Now, Barrett hopes to give Haye a test in his jump to heavyweight. "This win will serve notice that Monte Barrett still has some gas left in his tank and will do anything to get to that top level of the division," Barrett said. "I want David Haye next. I just slayed one giant in Tye Fields and now I'm ready to go across the pond and beat that big Brit. I know I am better than him and will knock him flat on his back."
 

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I read that there will be a 24/7 for Calzahge-Jones

Funny, but HBO had to be basically coerced into doing just a 'Countdown' for Margarito-Cotto

That's head-scratching on many levels
 

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I read that there will be a 24/7 for Calzahge-Jones

Funny, but HBO had to be basically coerced into doing just a 'Countdown' for Margarito-Cotto

That's head-scratching on many levels

For real?:confused:

Well if we really stop to analyze, Hatton/Mayweather and Calzaghe/Hopkins were about shutting up the two "loud mouth black guys" who taunted two "blue collar, working class" white boys, Taylor/Pavlik was about the (again) "blue collar,working class" white boy proving his dominance again over Taylor. I'm not including Oscar's two 'countdown' joints becuase anything he do they're going to have a 'countdown' for. But them countdown joints was to showcase the whiteboys mayne, for real, Amerikkka don't wanna see two 'spic' "savages" who don't even speak English tell their story on TV.....They just wanna watch them beat their brains in and line their pockets with the profits,...:smh::smh::smh: shit is sad on so many levels...I don't even think Floyd recognized the depth in what he was saying and how it goes even beyond boxing into other sports with all minorities, "if u ain't white u ain't right"..:(
 

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Fuck Klitschko, he's another great white hype.

I hope Sam Peter rapes Vitali and then rematches Wladimir.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

So much for that body shot strategy that Thompson had, it didn't have much effect at all to drop Wlad's guard. Not only that, even though Wlad got some good body shots in at times he still didn't leave his game plan of punching to the head. Once he got more aggressive he was able to KO Thompson...

Barerra/Soto a no go? Dang...I didn't know that MAB was breaking up with Golden Boy...That may hurt him in the long run (if he has a few years in the tank, which I doubt)

About the comparison of 24/7 to Countdown to, I wouldn't put too much in it just yet...Especially since there were only two that I know of and both involved Mayweather. Now if you can compare the coverage of white fighters in the countdown shows, then I could buy that...
 

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:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

So much for that body shot strategy that Thompson had, it didn't have much effect at all to drop Wlad's guard. Not only that, even though Wlad got some good body shots in at times he still didn't leave his game plan of punching to the head. Once he got more aggressive he was able to KO Thompson...

Barerra/Soto a no go? Dang...I didn't know that MAB was breaking up with Golden Boy...That may hurt him in the long run (if he has a few years in the tank, which I doubt)

About the comparison of 24/7 to Countdown to, I wouldn't put too much in it just yet...Especially since there were only two that I know of and both involved Mayweather. Now if you can compare the coverage of white fighters in the countdown shows, then I could buy that...

I was amazed that he wouldn't give the body attack up even in the tenth...it's like cmon man...it's too late for that, it's time to look for the knockout, the strategy didn't work and it's time to move on.
 

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Chavez gets by Vanda

Son of the Legend Julio César Chavez Jr (37-0-1, 29 KOs) had all he could handle against Matt Vanda (36-7, 21 KOs) on Saturday night in Hermosillo, Mexico, taking a hard fought split decision in a jr middleweight bout. Junior was in command over the first half of the fight, but Vanda came on strong and it was an exciting toe-to-toe war over the last five rounds. Chavez was totally gassed near the end of the fight. Scores were 97-93 Chavez, 96-95 Vanda, and a preposterous 100-90 for Chavez. "I wanted to knock him out, but I couldn't," said Chavez after the fight. "I'm satisfied with the decision. What can I do?"

IBF jr flyweight champion Ulises "Archi" Solis (27-1-1, 21 KOs) pounded out a twelve round unanimous decision over Glen Donaire (19-4-1, 12 KOs). It was a competitive bout with both fighters suffering cuts. Solis pitched a shutout on the cards, winning 120-108, 120-108, 120-107.

Flyweight KO Artist Hernan "Tyson" Marquez (20-0, 16 KOs) pounded out an eight round unnaimous decision against German "Panteonero" Meraz (17-10-1, 12 KOs). Marquez dropped Meraz in round four and went on to win by scores of 79-72 on all cards.

Featherweight Ricardo "Piolo" Castillo scored a second round TKO over Guadalupe Arce.
 

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Thanks for the post merce77. I love boxing although it's been in decline for a few years. Mostly because Americans are now playing basketball, football, and baseball now. Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest fighter EVER pound for pound. He would've beat Mayweather for sure. Sugar Ray Leonard might have as well because his offense was greater and I think he had better ring generalship. Most importantly by no fault of Mayweather's, he has not had the level of comp that other great fighters of the past.
 

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:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

So much for that body shot strategy that Thompson had, it didn't have much effect at all to drop Wlad's guard. Not only that, even though Wlad got some good body shots in at times he still didn't leave his game plan of punching to the head. Once he got more aggressive he was able to KO Thompson...

Barerra/Soto a no go? Dang...I didn't know that MAB was breaking up with Golden Boy...That may hurt him in the long run (if he has a few years in the tank, which I doubt)

About the comparison of 24/7 to Countdown to, I wouldn't put too much in it just yet...Especially since there were only two that I know of and both involved Mayweather. Now if you can compare the coverage of white fighters in the countdown shows, then I could buy that...

Exactly tp that's what my anger was based on, I mean it was Hatton, Calzaghe and Pavlik in a row, and I remember when Pavlik beat Taylor the first time, Lampley said that it was possibly the greatest middleweight fight in history:angry: GTFOH!!!!!!
Better than Hagler/Hearns? Better than McCallum/Toney? They're just out of control with this quest for a "great white hope".

Merce77 can I get a re-post of the Marco Antonio Barrera vs Prince Naseem Hamed fight

I'll get that for you playa, just give me a minute because I'm going to have to upload it with a slow-ass connection.

I was amazed that he wouldn't give the body attack up even in the tenth...it's like cmon man...it's too late for that, it's time to look for the knockout, the strategy didn't work and it's time to move on.

Yeah, plus your man had very little heart or punching power:smh: That old man in the corner was getting tight with him too, but omie just didn't have the heart, the legs or power, but still, to me Klitschko is a joke. Can ya'll imagine Wlad fighting Iron Mike? He would've looked more scared than Spinks did watching Mike walk into that ring. Tyson would've beasted on that Russian and my money would've been on a first round KO.

Chavez gets by Vanda

Son of the Legend Julio César Chavez Jr (37-0-1, 29 KOs) had all he could handle against Matt Vanda (36-7, 21 KOs) on Saturday night in Hermosillo, Mexico, taking a hard fought split decision in a jr middleweight bout. Junior was in command over the first half of the fight, but Vanda came on strong and it was an exciting toe-to-toe war over the last five rounds. Chavez was totally gassed near the end of the fight. Scores were 97-93 Chavez, 96-95 Vanda, and a preposterous 100-90 for Chavez. "I wanted to knock him out, but I couldn't," said Chavez after the fight. "I'm satisfied with the decision. What can I do?"

IBF jr flyweight champion Ulises "Archi" Solis (27-1-1, 21 KOs) pounded out a twelve round unanimous decision over Glen Donaire (19-4-1, 12 KOs). It was a competitive bout with both fighters suffering cuts. Solis pitched a shutout on the cards, winning 120-108, 120-108, 120-107.

Flyweight KO Artist Hernan "Tyson" Marquez (20-0, 16 KOs) pounded out an eight round unnaimous decision against German "Panteonero" Meraz (17-10-1, 12 KOs). Marquez dropped Meraz in round four and went on to win by scores of 79-72 on all cards.

Featherweight Ricardo "Piolo" Castillo scored a second round TKO over Guadalupe Arce.

I don't know man, this Chavez Jr. kid just doesn't convince me. Plus he keeps fighting dudes no one has even heard of and padding his record. I think I've seen about 5 of this kids fights and he's already 36-0?!?!? I think he has tools, power and a strong build but I've never seen him in against stiff comp and Ive rarely ever seen him use his jab. The jury is still out on this dude, at least to me.

Thanks for the post merce77. I love boxing although it's been in decline for a few years. Mostly because Americans are now playing basketball, football, and baseball now. Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest fighter EVER pound for pound. He would've beat Mayweather for sure. Sugar Ray Leonard might have as well because his offense was greater and I think he had better ring generalship. Most importantly by no fault of Mayweather's, he has not had the level of comp that other great fighters of the past.

You know, it was because of a few comments like this that really made me want to check Ray Robinson's fights and he really was a master, I have no doubt he would've taken Mayweather might've even hurt him. And I would also pick Ray Leonard for the same reasons you stated. But I do think May had some very good comp that he could've taken but for reasons that even to me are starting to sound redundant, he didn't fight them. But May still has some of the best skills I've ever seen, no denying that. But my logic is simple, NO truly great fighter who has fought everyone and taken on ALL comers has ever retired undefeated.
 

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Wladimir Klitschko vows to teach David Haye 'a lesson'

Wladimir Klitschko told Steve Bunce's Boxing Hour that he plans to teach David Haye a lesson about his behaviour if they meet in the ring.

Klitschko, who meets Tony Thompson live on Setanta Sports on Saturday, has also been called out by his next opponent Alexander Povetkin and another contender Juan Carlos Gomez, but says no one is as loud as the former WBC/WBA/WBO cruiserweight champion. Haye is planning to fight Klitschko next summer after beating two top ten contenders and the IBF/WBO champion said he would be happy to entertain the prospect if the British fighter establishes himself in the weight division.

"I didn't know anything about this guy three months ago," Klitschko said on Setanta Sports News. "Then I got a chance to meet him in London. And that was a pleasant meeting but the guy is nuts, he is really difficult to handle. I think he's a good person but he's very emotional and I think I have to teach [him about] his behaviour in the ring. I got information from my management that David Haye bought 20 tickets to get to the show and that is surprising to me."

"I would have got tickets for him. The arena is sold out but we would have found reserves for him. I have another guy, the IBF number one contender Alxander Povetkin who sent a two-storey bus to the press conference. It is recognition for me that so many people want to fight me - especially David Haye, no one is as loud as David Haye so I better teach him his behaviour in the ring. First of all I would say good luck in his next heavyweight fight, because he hasn't fought as a heavyweight yet."
 

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Joe Cortez caught at the centre of another refereeing storm

Joe Cortez was at the centre of another refereeing storm as Humberto Soto was disqualified to leave a battered Francisco Lorenzo with the WBC's interim super-featherweight title.

The man from the Dominican Republic was confirmed as the likely successor to Manny Pacquiao as the bonafide champion but fewer world titles will have been won amid such farcical scenes. And the man at the centre of it all was Cortez. Castigated in this country for his handling of Ricky Hatton-Floyd Mayweather, the veteran again suggested that his 'firm but fair' methods have seen better days. The flashpoint came four rounds in when Soto stepped up a gear, having already floored his man once. Another onslaught in the corner saw Cortez jump in to wave the fight off and then change his mind instantly. Lorenzo then took a voluntary knee but with the referee slow to come between them this time, Soto continued to punch.

One just about glanced the back of the head before the official finally stepped in and stopped the fight. Soto thought he had won, Lorenzo, with blood pouring from a huge gash on his right eyelid and his nose just as messy, cleverly made the most of the late shot. He sat in the corner rubbing the back of his head while the Mandalay Bay crowd were left scratching theirs as Cortez did not rule a stoppage or a knockdown or administer a warning to Soto, who was already celebrating.

Instead he headed for a ringside huddle with Nevade State Commision and WBC officials which lasted at least five minutes. Still Lorenzo sat in a puddle of his own blood without medical attention and still Soto thought he had won, but after elongated discussions, MC Michael Buffer announced the disqualification - for hitting a man when he was down. It was hard to tell which fighter was surprised the most, but a little less shocking was Cortez's willingness to go on TV to explain his 'decision'.

"The fighter (Lorenzo) was actually taking a pounding and had he (Soto) not hit him when he was down, the fight would've been over - and he hit him while he was down" he told HBO. "I had no choice. The rule says if you hit your opponent while he's down, you may be docked a point or disqualified. There's no wiggle on that. I'll have to look at the replay to see if he went down on his own, but he went down from a combination of punches. Whether it was a late reaction or whatever he went down. And you can't hit a man when he's down. From my angle it looked like a hard punch and he reacted to it. From my angle, my position, he was hit on the back of the head."



On the real,I'd say this to Joe, "From my angle, my position it looks like you sittin in somebody's pocket".
Honestly this dude was one of the most solid refs a few years back and then Hatton/Mayweather happened and he hasn't been the same since...suspect.
 
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