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Which of the 3 Sugars would've beaten Mayweather?

  • Sugar Ray Robinson

    Votes: 4 57.1%
  • Sugar Ray Leonard

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Sugar Shane Mosley

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

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Pav is under HBO, but he's also a middleweight (still Ring champ) and he got dusted by BHop in that class, so it wouldn't be a good idea to jump in that tourney if I were him.

And it starts Oct. 17th with Abraham fighting Taylor and Froch fighting Direll...

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merce you got that Collazo Vs. Hatton fight?

and do you box?

and about MMA I agree it will never be bigger or better than Boxing....I do love it tho....

Boxing this year has been great IMO....alot great fights that didn't hit the casual fans radar....

also to all my Boxing fans out there here are some youtube Boxing Channels ya'll must subscribe too...

old and very rare footage of greats like Marcaino...Louis...Sugar Ray Robinson...etc....


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merce you got that Collazo Vs. Hatton fight?

and do you box?

and about MMA I agree it will never be bigger or better than Boxing....I do love it tho....

Boxing this year has been great IMO....alot great fights that didn't hit the casual fans radar....

also to all my Boxing fans out there here are some youtube Boxing Channels ya'll must subscribe too...

old and very rare footage of greats like Marcaino...Louis...Sugar Ray Robinson...etc....


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Boxed from my tweens to about 20 years old. Still work out and hit the heavy bag 4 times a week. Thanks for the video drops homie - don[t be shy to add nothin else either, it's all most appreciated. I'll get you that Hatton/Collazo fight. Question - doesn't Luis remind you a bit of a young Winky - I think this dude could be a problem if he actually fought more than once a year.
 

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hattoncollazo.jpg

Sorry for the 3 part download, I'll try to up a one linker by tonite. BTW download part 3 first, it's only 4MB.


PART 1 - 285MB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E8JFRJ9C
PART 2 - 285MB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M6RH9S2J
PART 3 - 4MB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LLHYOQKD
 

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Boxed from my tweens to about 20 years old. Still work out and hit the heavy bag 4 times a week. Thanks for the video drops homie - don[t be shy to add nothin else either, it's all most appreciated. I'll get you that Hatton/Collazo fight. Question - doesn't Luis remind you a bit of a young Winky - I think this dude could be a problem if he actually fought more than once a year.

well not to similar....I think Winky is much better defensivly (sp?)...I like the fact he is constantly working even in tight spots....

he (Collazo) is a pretty good Boxer I think he has had close fights that haven't swung his ay...he is a pretty good Boxer to me....

honestly when I 1st saw the Berto fight I thought Berto won...

again I am Bias...lol...huge Berto fan...

I just reatch the fight and I think Luis should have on or called a damn draw he definitly out worked Andre...

REMATCH....:yes:

and whats up with the shitty judging?

116-111

what a damn joke....:smh:

oh yeah I use to Box and I also did many Martial Arts...I'm getting back into Boxing right now...

25 and I want to compete....
 

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Yo Poet, I think you can get in the pro boxing game since you've been through the amateur ranks, if I'm not mistaken....

Which weight class would you be in?
 

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well not to similar....I think Winky is much better defensivly (sp?)...I like the fact he is constantly working even in tight spots....

he (Collazo) is a pretty good Boxer I think he has had close fights that haven't swung his ay...he is a pretty good Boxer to me....

honestly when I 1st saw the Berto fight I thought Berto won...

again I am Bias...lol...huge Berto fan...

I just reatch the fight and I think Luis should have on or called a damn draw he definitly out worked Andre...

REMATCH....:yes:

and whats up with the shitty judging?

116-111

what a damn joke....:smh:

oh yeah I use to Box and I also did many Martial Arts...I'm getting back into Boxing right now...

25 and I want to compete....

Usually in close fights like that, I give the fight to whoever won the last 2 rounds and I think it was Berto. If Luis stayed fighting and in the gym, I think he might take Berto in a rematch because he already knows he can take Andre's power. And Andre seemed a bit buzzed off a few shots Luis hit him with. It was a damm good fight though.
 

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Yo Poet, I think you can get in the pro boxing game since you've been through the amateur ranks, if I'm not mistaken....

Which weight class would you be in?

Amateur nah...never fought yet....I've trained tho....

and I'm around 185-189 lbs and I'm about 6'2.....

I wanted to bulk up to 200 but when I as Boxing my trainer told me not too....its a bad idea....

I still want to bulk up to 200....yah or nah?

I'm 25 & thats real old in Boxing to go anywhere right now....you rarely hear any pro's at my age with no amatuer background actually making noise ....

only cats that come to mind is B-Hop....and Nate Campbell
 

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Amateur nah...never fought yet....I've trained tho....

and I'm around 185-189 lbs and I'm about 6'2.....

I wanted to bulk up to 200 but when I as Boxing my trainer told me not too....its a bad idea....

I still want to bulk up to 200....yah or nah?

I'm 25 & thats real old in Boxing to go anywhere right now....you rarely hear any pro's at my age with no amatuer background actually making noise ....

only cats that come to mind is B-Hop....and Nate Campbell

I think you're at about the right weight for your height to be well balanced...The lowest weight possible is around 175, as there are a few boxers that are in that weight class with the same height as you are. Antonio Tarver comes to mind, as you did mention that 25 as being an "old" age to start boxing, but Tarver turned pro at 28...I just finished watching FNF tonight and they had a HW prospect at 27 who had 10 fights under his belt already. There are more and more fighters out there who are up there in age that end up having long careers because they take care of their body in and out of the ring...

Going back to the weight thing, as I said the lowest weight is 175, the highest limit IMO is 195...I am around that weight at 6-3, but that's w/o training. If I was going to box, I'd probably be at 185...Playing around with 200 is not good if you plan on fighting because that could mean you could weigh above 200 (heavyweight minimal limit) which at this stage won't work...I know fighters that are at 225-235 that can't take a solid punch from those that are stable at 250...The last fighter that I can remember that was able to transition to the heavyweight ranks from the lower classes with much success was Holyfield, and that was just about when the bigger fighters came along (Bowe, Lewis, etc.) with skill that were able to take over the division...

Check out David Haye when he goes for a belt against Valuev to see the difference between those at our height (and that were at our weight) against these "super heavyweights" that are way over the 225-230 pound weight that most of todays fighters are at now...
 

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I think you're at about the right weight for your height to be well balanced...The lowest weight possible is around 175, as there are a few boxers that are in that weight class with the same height as you are. Antonio Tarver comes to mind, as you did mention that 25 as being an "old" age to start boxing, but Tarver turned pro at 28...I just finished watching FNF tonight and they had a HW prospect at 27 who had 10 fights under his belt already. There are more and more fighters out there who are up there in age that end up having long careers because they take care of their body in and out of the ring...

Going back to the weight thing, as I said the lowest weight is 175, the highest limit IMO is 195...I am around that weight at 6-3, but that's w/o training. If I was going to box, I'd probably be at 185...Playing around with 200 is not good if you plan on fighting because that could mean you could weigh above 200 (heavyweight minimal limit) which at this stage won't work...I know fighters that are at 225-235 that can't take a solid punch from those that are stable at 250...The last fighter that I can remember that was able to transition to the heavyweight ranks from the lower classes with much success was Holyfield, and that was just about when the bigger fighters came along (Bowe, Lewis, etc.) with skill that were able to take over the division...

Check out David Haye when he goes for a belt against Valuev to see the difference between those at our height (and that were at our weight) against these "super heavyweights" that are way over the 225-230 pound weight that most of todays fighters are at now...

how hard is it to go pro...?

and thanks for that Knowledge drop.....
 

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I know different states have different rules. I know in GA it's just ten bucks and a physical from what my cousin tells me. I know here in NY the easiest path to the pros is through the Golden Gloves. You get enuff attention there, and people will be approaching you trust me. Especially if you have a crowd pleasing style. The rest is on you. But I wouldn't reccomend it unless you're prepared or able to give it 100% attention. I wasn't.
 

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Jones vs LAcy - opens with Windows Media Player. Copy and paste link.
mms://shared.streamwebtown.com/streaming
 

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Win or lose, PBF has to fight Pacman right? He can't duck him after this fight.

PBF vs Marguez is an intriguing fight. Most of the boxing community thinks that Floyd is going to 'crush this migit' But, Juan has shown that he can adapt and outbox Pacman, someone with quick feet, hands and good punching power.

Not sure which way this is gonna go, Marguez is no chump and PBF is coming out of retirement and may be rusty.

Where do you guys see this going?
 

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Win or lose, PBF has to fight Pacman right? He can't duck him after this fight.

PBF vs Marguez is an intriguing fight. Most of the boxing community thinks that Floyd is going to 'crush this migit' But, Juan has shown that he can adapt and outbox Pacman, someone with quick feet, hands and good punching power.

Not sure which way this is gonna go, Marguez is no chump and PBF is coming out of retirement and may be rusty.

Where do you guys see this going?

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=411104
 

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Roy looked pretty good for 40, but I hope he's not geeked enough off this victory to step to B-Hop or Chad Dawson. Go to Australia, fight Green, and hope he doesn't knock you the fuck out, because he really did look like a new fighter on Sat. Lacy's performance was another excercise in futility.

Roy Jones Jr. vs Jeff Lacy
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I8U4ZVSF

First off, thanks for the link...

Next, as I have to see what happened in this fight, I would think that this was not a good look for Jones, even with a TKO performance. Both of these guys got torched by Calslappy and Lacy hasn't been the same since (esp after that los...*ahem* I mean win over Vitaly Tsypko) and have no momentum to defeat any of the top 5 175lb. fighters....

Who could Roy go after next? There's no one left for him to fight other than B-Hop, so the wait should finally cease as to when the rematch would happen...Who cares about who would watch the fight, the buildup for it would be classic...
 

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malignaggi just got fucking robbed :smh:

He did:yes:, people don't wanna see that jab and grab bullshit anymore, that running and holding shit doesn't win fights anymore. Hopefully decisions like this'll set precedents. We need more exciting fights, not a fight where one guy is jabbing and grabbing his way to victory like the Klitschkos, and Malignaggi and a few more high profile fighters. MMA is really stealing our shine because fans are mostly guaranteed to see something exciting, decisions like this might make these more "boring" fighters step it up. But he did get robbed.:lol:
 

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He did, people don't wanna see that jab and grab bullshit anymore, that running and holding shit doesn't win fights anymore. Hopefully decisions like this'll set precedents. We need more exciting fights, not a fight where one guy is jabbing and grabbing his way to victory like the Klitschkos, and Malignaggi and a few more high profile fighters.

Shit what Paulie did in the ring ain't shit compared to Hatton and Ruiz....For that fight to have a 6-3 and 8-0 scorecard is atrocious...Like Paulie said, that is a reason that boxing is bullshit...Yes I still love the sport, but fights like this (and Cotto's last 2 decision wins) discourage me greatly.

While boxing can make some exciting fights (Mosley/Margarito, Diaz/Marquez, etc.) you do have those occasional letdowns, especially when a fighter with better techncal skill dances around the other fighter and toys with him. Myself, as a fan of the defensive/technical side of the game, prefer to see folks get embarrassed by missing punches or having them blocked (Wright/Trinidad, Whitaker/McGirt) than to see two folks swinging for the fences. However, that doesn't mean that I am against it...otherwise I would never mention Foreman/Lyle in a boxing convo.
 

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Shit what Paulie did in the ring ain't shit compared to Hatton and Ruiz....For that fight to have a 6-3 and 8-0 scorecard is atrocious...Like Paulie said, that is a reason that boxing is bullshit...Yes I still love the sport, but fights like this (and Cotto's last 2 decision wins) discourage me greatly.

While boxing can make some exciting fights (Mosley/Margarito, Diaz/Marquez, etc.) you do have those occasional letdowns, especially when a fighter with better techncal skill dances around the other fighter and toys with him. Myself, as a fan of the defensive/technical side of the game, prefer to see folks get embarrassed by missing punches or having them blocked (Wright/Trinidad, Whitaker/McGirt) than to see two folks swinging for the fences. However, that doesn't mean that I am against it...otherwise I would never mention Foreman/Lyle in a boxing convo.

Them too!:lol: All I'm saying is, particularly the caucasian fighters who have been getting big fights these past few years have been fighters who do the things I mentioned above, as well as Calzaghe with his patty cake style. That shit doesn't put asses in seats. I also like the technical part of the game, but too me, I just don't want to see a guy dancing and running around the ring, not really throwing anything just trying not to get hit while the other guy is making the fight and landing the harder shots, it seems cowardly to me. I'm going to also have to disagree with you on Cotto's last two decision victories. Clottey showed zero heart in those last two rounds and showed no inclination of going after a guy who was badly cut and half blind, if he wanted the fight it was there to be taken, Cotto put him down once and took the championship rounds while half blind. And it was a headbutt that caused the cut, not a beating. I don't think Josh has what it takes in terms of mental toughness to beat any elite fighter at 147. And imo Mosley just lost by a point, he was outboxed the last couple rounds and Cotto was still landing shots that were just as good as Shanes while boxing better than Mosley, just my opinion though, I respect yours. I know I hope he beats that lil fucker Pacaquiao unconscious.
 
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Oh and those scorecards were ridiculous. Hell, like I've been saying for a while, Floyd better win convincingly, no potshotting and running, or the same might happen to him. I don't think so though, too much potential money in a Pacman/Mayweather fight, assuming Pac beats Cotto.
 

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Man after watching that fight minus the beer, that decision was pure bullshit!:angry: 118-110?:angry: WTF fight were those judges watching? I had it 116-112 for Paulie. Now I do mean alot of what I said last night. Paulie is a boring fighter with zero power, but what is right is right, Paulie won that fight and should have had his hands raised in victory last night. One thing I didn't like was how he was getting away with using his elbow and shoulder the whole fight, the way Mayweather does. But that doesn't change the fact that he was robbed. Man if only Paulie had power - he'd be a fucking problem.
 

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Them too!:lol: All I'm saying is, particularly the caucasian fighters who have been getting big fights these past few years have been fighters who do the things I mentioned above, as well as Calslappy with his patty cake style.

Fixed :D

Man after watching that fight minus the beer, that decision was pure bullshit! 118-110? WTF fight were those judges watching? I had it 116-112 for Paulie. Now I do mean alot of what I said last night. Paulie is a boring fighter with zero power, but what is right is right, Paulie won that fight and should have had his hands raised in victory last night. One thing I didn't like was how he was getting away with using his elbow and shoulder the whole fight, the way Mayweather does. But that doesn't change the fact that he was robbed. Man if only Paulie had power - he'd be a fucking problem.

LOL you was tipsy watchin the fight live :dance: that's what's up

I do agree with the shoulder push, I thought he would have gotten a point taken away for that (and he was warned for other tactics)...And I also agree that if he had some power, he'd be a more frustrating guy to fight...And he would've had more success against Hatton and Cotto if that were the case.
 
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What do you guys think of a Diaz vs Bradley fight? Both guys come to swing and neither has big power, could be exciting. Or Malignaggi vs one of the Petersons?
 
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