Movie News: Marvel Black Widow drops in Theaters & Disney + (Fonzi Approved) UPDATE: Scarlett Johansson & Disney PEACE Settlement!

praetor

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I actually didn't like it.

The story was predictable as hell and the green screen scenes looked cheesy.

The reviewers had to say it was good since:
every female character was a Mary Sue while the two male characters were one guy who was all muscle and no brains and the other one was a misogynist.

Wasn't worth $30 imo.
 

D'Evils

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Take away and question....

Should have been a Disney+ series...

MCU Timeline.... after Black Panther before Spiderman

Power wise is Taskmaster actual Tech or an actual person?

That's the only why to explain The Mandarin / Iron Man 3 letdown...
 
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Leatherf7ce

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I actually didn't like it.

The story was predictable as hell and the green screen scenes looked cheesy.

The reviewers had to say it was good since:
every female character was a Mary Sue while the two male characters were one guy who was all muscle and no brains and the other one was a misogynist.

Wasn't worth $30 imo.
I agree. Shit was whack. Yo I was the only one amped to see this, had to convince wife & kids to watch it... They ended up loving it and I'm just sitting here like it's the worst marvel movie since iron Man 2. Glad I won't have to sit through a sequel. Also tired of origin flicks. Widow actual has solo stories that would've been way better on big screen.
 

D'Evils

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I think the timeline is after civil war...BEFORE the mid-credit scen of civil war.



Yeah... I forgot about the mid credit scene

BW actually takes place during the end of Civil War right after she talks to Tony... She goes on the run from General Ross...

I never noticed til now they never explained what happened to her after Cap and Tony's fight....

I guess this was the plan all along...
 

Darkness's

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Welp i guess I'll save this gift card for another movie . meanwhile I'll watch it on cineflix for free. Disney, HBO/Warner, paramount etc is a big rip off they could be showing most of this shit basic cable. Of Disney can put agents of sheiod on ABC th3n why cant they do that with all thoee other shows? I'm glad they put titans on tbs because I refuse to pay for none of this shit. These ar2 tv mini series we shouldn't have to pay for it. Same thing with starwars. Mando and badbatch are great shows and they have more but why can't they just show th3 shit on regular tv? I'd rather all of this stufd was on basic cable. Tv sucks.
 

2missedcalls

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I agree. Shit was whack. Yo I was the only one amped to see this, had to convince wife & kids to watch it... They ended up loving it and I'm just sitting here like it's the worst marvel movie since iron Man 2. Glad I won't have to sit through a sequel. Also tired of origin flicks. Widow actual has solo stories that would've been way better on big screen.
It was was wiggity wiggity whack.
All of that damn talking about who had it the worse in life.
"Drakov did this to me. Well Drakov did that to me. No, you did this to me."
A lot of dead space in the movie as well. Nothing memorable.
They could've used Taskmaster better.
Too much dry humor.
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gdatruth

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i enjoyed it
  • loved how the 1st part of the movie was basically a superhero version of one of my favorite shows the Americans
  • Florence Pough definately established herself as the new Black Widow. she brought some fun, scarastic energy to the role
  • Harbour killed it and was laugh out loud funny (i wonder if the Cap he fought was Isiah Bradley)
  • the film definately had allusions to sex trafficing and how women are abused but it wasnt so subtle towards the ending
  • anyone fucking with Disney+ shows know they are setting up Young Avengers...looks like we might get a Dark Avengers with US Agent AkA Cap and now the New Black Widow
  • I wonder if the new Hawkeye aka Kate Bishop will be a former Black Widow
i got Disney+ that I share with the fam. One of my cousins asked to order it so i might run it back this weekend
 

LennyNero1972

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Okay peeped it BGOL style, really enjoyed it, it was hot, really hot too, this was Scarlett's Captain America: Winter Soldier. It was slower than I expected but the cast was fantastic and Florence Pugh did steal the show. Action was superb especially the final act. Nice swan song for the character. The kid gives it a strong 3 and a half stars(***1/2). It was basically a chick flick but not as sappy as Captain Marvel.
 

Louis Koo

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finally finished watching. this movie was heavy on the cheesy jokes, red room in the early years of Nat and Yelena was non-existent, barely any character development of Taskmaster, Hawkeye Budapest was just explained away. this movie is a slight notch above Captain Marvel, and that's not a compliment. definitely not worth the wait nor hype
 

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The Black Widow Post-Credits Scene, Explained


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By Savannah Salazar
We say goodbye to Scarlet Johansson’s Natasha Romanoff and say hello to Florence Pugh’s Yelena Belova. Photo: Jay Maidment/Marvel Studios
After an unexpected and understandable pause due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Marvel Cinematic Universe is finally back in full swing, releasing its first theatrical film in over a year. Scarlet Johansson’s final performance as Black Widow is a fun, riveting little thriller refreshingly in its own corner of Marvel fare. Liken it to a Jason Bourneesque adventure, that is, up until its post-credit scene gives us a glimpse at what’s next for a few certain characters in the MCU. Yes, if you haven’t had a chance to see Black Widow yet, here’s your official warning: spoilers ahead.
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As Black Widow concludes with Scarlet Johansson’s Natasha Romanoff and company finally defeating Dreykov and dismantling the Red Room, Natasha heads off to her next mission, which we know is Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame. Unfortunately, we also know that Natasha doesn’t exactly survive this mission. Black Widow, pre-credits, might end with Natasha alive, but post-credits the story skips right to a depressing stinger: Florence Pugh’s Yelena Belova visiting her sister’s grave. We don’t know how much time has passed, aside from it being post-Endgame, and we don’t know if Yelena was dusted or not. But here, Yelena and her dog, Fanny (a little nod to Natasha’s alias from earlier in Black Widow, given to her by O-T Fagbenle’s Mason), take a breath to mourn Natasha, a “daughter, sister, Avenger.”

It’s a tender moment, until the camera pans over to Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Contessa Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. The reveal gives us one of our first MCU film/Disney+ show crossovers, as Falcon and the Winter Soldier viewers will instantly recognize Dreyfus’s shady agent Contessa. As reported in Vanity Fair, this character was originally supposed to make her big debut in Black Widow, but due to the COVID-era date-reshuffling of the Phase 4 slate, the Contessa made her first appearance in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier series.
So, what is Contessa up to?
Considering that we first saw her recruiting John Walker/U.S. Agent in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and now in Black Widow it appears that she and Yelena have already been working closely together, we’re getting big “I’m building a team” vibes from Contessa.
In the comics, Contessa de Fontaine has many iterations, but most notably, she takes up the mantle of Madame Hydra, who is revealed to be a Russian double agent. This gives her appearance in Black Widow, a film about Russian agents, an added layer, though the new movie doesn’t care to make any connection between Contessa and Dreykov’s widows just yet. So how does Yelena know her? The two obviously have some kind of rapport in the post-credits scene. (Yelena is over here asking for a raise!) Could it be from her Red Room past? Unclear.
Back to the team. Marvel Studios loves to remix and reconfigure characters from the comics to best fit the MCU’s most pressing demands, and there’s a non-zero chance that Contessa’s overall plan is to assemble a network of Marvel villains à la Dark Avengers, a supervillain group organized by Norman Osborn in the comic books. Whether Contessa’s plan comes to fruition as the Dark Avengers or the Thunderbolts or some new group entirely, it’s clear that Contessa is being set up as a dark compliment to Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson). (The two are on-and-off-again lovers in the comics. Imagine the star-crossed tension between Dreyfus and Jackson!) After all, the MCU desperately needs to build up its catalogue of villains, because we can’t just wait for Jonathan Majors’s Kang the Conqueror (slated to appear in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania) without some ancillary baddies for the Avengers to fight in the meantime.
Where will we see Yelena Belova next?
Contessa comes to Yelena with a very specific potential mission: killing Clint Barton. “Maybe you’d like a shot at the man responsible for your sister’s death,” she tells Yelena. It’s a direct path to a Yelena appearance in Hawkeye, which comes as no surprise to those privy to reports that Pugh would be showing up in the upcoming Marvel-Disney+ series. Now we know why: to kick some Jeremy Renner/Hawkeye ass. Speaking of which, who forced Julia-Louis Dreyfus to call him a cutie? We’d like a word.
All of that is to say, if you’re in love with Pugh’s Yelena, you thankfully won’t have to wait too long to see her again, since the Hawkeye series starring Renner and Hailee Steinfeld is set to come out this year. When this year? Well, that we don’t know yet.
Wait, where are Alexei and Melina?
One thing Black Widow doesn’t exactly reveal is where the hell Alexei and Melina (David Harbour and Rachel Weisz, respectively) went. It seems likely we’ll see at least Alexei, a.k.a. the Red Guardian, again. Marvel is notorious for keeping former characters close to the vest; it brought back Kat Dennings’s Darcy Lewis after ten years in WandaVision! But we’d like to think he and Melina are still together, living on a nice little pig farm somewhere.
 

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Black Widow cast and crew break down their familial chemistry and acting with pigs

Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh, David Harbour, Rachel Weisz, director Cate Shortland, and Marvel chief Kevin Feige unite for EW's Around the Table series.
By Devan Coggan
July 09, 2021 at 05:31 PM EDT



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Is there anything more uncomfortable than a family dinner? Even the most loving, supportive households can occasionally turn awkward when sitting down together at the kitchen table. Someone starts harping about someone's table manners, someone else brings up that thing that happened years ago that they still haven't forgotten. It's especially the case if you and your relatives haven't seen each other in a while — like if, say, you were all part of an undercover Soviet spy family together, and you've just reunited after being estranged for more than a decade.
Such is the case in Black Widow, which follows Marvel's redheaded assassin-turned-Avenger as she reunites with the Russian family she hasn't seen in years. Like its predecessors in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Natasha Romanoff's long-awaited solo movie is packed with the kind of explosions and fistfights you expect from a comic book flick, but there are also much quieter moments of familial introspection. It's a love story, in a way — a love story between relatives who frequently want to beat the crap out of each other (and occasionally do), but ultimately find an unconventional kinship.
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With Black Widow finally hitting theaters and Disney+ today, EW gathered Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh, David Harbour, Rachel Weisz, director Cate Shortland, and Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige for an edition of Around the Table, breaking down the movie's long journey to screens and their unconventional family dynamic.
"The tone comes from the character," Shortland explains. "[Natasha] has beautiful light and shade in her, and she had so much emotional landscape that hadn't been explored. We start the film where she's kind of afraid. She's afraid of the possibility of life because all she knows is to be in opposition to another person. She doesn't know how to be an individual. So it was really beautiful starting with that very small moment with Scarlett when she's alone, and then gradually we introduce all these other characters, and those characters open her up to the world. By the end, they're this beautiful, formidable team or community or family."
Rachel Weisz, Scarlett Johansson, and Florence Pugh in 'Black Widow'

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"I get giddy just being around them and become this doofus entertainer because there is this dynamic that exists between us and existed very early on," Harbour adds. "I think Cate is very smart and generous to be able to go, 'Let's capture some of that. Let's let these people really live in that way.' A lot of other films on this scale won't let the actors do that, and I think they suffer for that. So it's very smart and it's very special."

In the video above, the actors and filmmakers open up about finding that chemistry, from navigating that awkward dinner table scene to the time Harbour and Pugh improvised their big musical moment together.
But all agree that they bonded the most over a brief scene at Melina's house, where she shows off the pigs she's been raising — special pigs from New Zealand, Shortland is quick to add. "We loved those pigs," the director says with a laugh. "We loved them like they're our own family."
"It was extraordinary," Weisz added. "They upstaged us quite often, didn't they?"
Black Widow is now playing in theaters and via Disney+ premier access. Watch the full Around the Table episode above.
 
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