Damn their podcast is DEAD! 6.6k subscribers. Aged out the game, I guess.
The fumbled and stumbled out the block
They were pioneers they are legends
But they both were successful doing other stuff.
They should have done a proper roll out.
They had all the money, industry connects and platforms to come in like guns blazing but were disorganized
They steady improving and should be fine.
But they gotta take it seriously study the great pods out now and do they thing on schedule and high quality
This last interview was excellent.
They can DO the work they just have to do the work