NBA Finals 2016-2017 - Golden State wins NBA title 4-1 vs Cleveland Cavaliers...great series!!!

Who's gonna win the trilogy?


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It seems in the NBA Finals, unless you have some ridiculous ability, its hard to be a real factor. The intensity is usually so high that the role players shrink.
 

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Cavs can't protect the paint at all. No rim protector. Durant can do that every game. No way the Cavs can win this series giving up dunks in the half court offense all game long.

No rim protection.


Man durant going off didn't hurt the Cavs...he can Abe those dunks...the game didn't get blown open until them 3's started falling and Cavs went into a mini slump... That's how simple it is even with the turnovers the dubs wasn't that far away...
 

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Like I said the Cavs didn't of anything differently to counter the addition of KD.


The offense didn't change but we knew that. This ain't the same beast that won 73 games...that y'all beat!!!

I just feel there should be a different method of attack...
Use pick and roll and ISO but how about some motion and movement to help other players get shots and great looks.

Where will the easy buckets for the role players come from?

That's why I say its on Lue...
 

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Man durant going off didn't hurt the Cavs...he can Abe those dunks...the game didn't get blown open until them 3's started falling and Cavs went into a mini slump... That's how simple it is even with the turnovers the dubs wasn't that far away...
Let this marinate tho Bruh... Cavs got torched and Draymond and Klay didnt show up.... all Im saying....
 

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Oh aight. Glad you still hangin in there man. Don't pull a punk pussy Beeiii move man. Cavs gonna win some games.


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If I see you on the street Im sneaking you Bruh no question.... :hmm:
 

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What hurts your legacy more... Losing in the playoffs and never winning a chip, or going to GS and winning one or more? A lot of people and more importantly players are bitching and moaning about what he did, but I guarantee you on the humble ALL of them motherfuckers wish the league was set up where they could have done it, or wish they had thought of it first...

Barkley, Reggie, all those motherfuckers talking that shit because it's easy to stand as a righteous judge on something you no longer have the option to do to make yourself seem like a 'soldier' or some shit because they are jealous of Dude, and y'all drinking that damn Koolaid....

KD may have 'lost' a few bills on the front end, but he will damn sure get it on the back end after winning a chip and probably MVP if this shit keeps up, and miss me with that legacy bullshit.... The same people shitting on him for this would have been and were shitting on him for never winning a chip so duck wishy washy motherfuckers and their arm chair analysis which don't mean shit in the grand scheme of things....

Notice how you NEVER hear about the 'other' players Jordan beat during their run? Why, because they are irrelevant as fuck... Notice how the context in which CP3, Blake, etc are reference is usually in a negative way even though they are amazing players!?!?!

At the end of the day, KD did him, and the only people bitching about it are players who are jealous it wasn't them, or niggas sitting home with no concept of the magnitude of this decision OR mad because something like this hasn't happened for their team yet.... All this fake ass outrage is hilarious :lol:
End the Debate...

Lebron did the hoe 2 times and is 3-6 in finals no one questions his legacy.. Cuz he finally got a ring
 

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Man durant going off didn't hurt the Cavs...he can Abe those dunks...the game didn't get blown open until them 3's started falling and Cavs went into a mini slump... That's how simple it is even with the turnovers the dubs wasn't that far away...

You cant let a team continuously dunk and shoot layups, bruh. On top of them turning the ball over and not rebounding. The Cavs was practically not trying to get blownout in the first half. As many layups and dunks the dubs got, they missed many as well.

Cavs offense was stagnate with little motion.
 

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You cant let a team continuously dunk and shoot layups, bruh. On top of them turning the ball over and not rebounding. The Cavs was practically not trying to get blownout in the first half. As many layups and dunks the dubs got, they missed many as well.

Cavs offense was stagnate with little motion.

If the Cavs dont play better defense, this will be a quick series.
 

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No doubt but he's there for his offense too Bruh. He wakes up its a damn sweep, But IF he doesn't, and KD or Steph has a bad game or games, his bad shooting could cost them the series. Funny how people, not you, but a few others are shitting on Kevin Loves performance, and Dude had 18 Rebs, but cop pleas for Klay, and he hasn't hit an open shot since April :confused:
Love had a decent game for who he is.
 

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Let this marinate tho Bruh... Cavs got torched and Draymond and Klay didnt show up.... all Im saying....

That's the thing about the dubs though. They don't need everyone to play big because everyone can score whenever.

Especially when the Cavs just let you come in the lane uncontested. KD going off gave Klay a purpose to focus on D. They didn't need his scoring because KD and Steph had that under control.
 

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I don't see how with no rim protector. See how fearless the dubs were coming in the lane?

They can do that whenever.

They were some missed assignments in transition. Cleveland needs to command rebounds better and stop giving the Dubs all those second chance shot attempts. If they can be more of a presence on the glass they'll be fine.
 

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Man durant going off didn't hurt the Cavs...he can Abe those dunks...the game didn't get blown open until them 3's started falling and Cavs went into a mini slump... That's how simple it is even with the turnovers the dubs wasn't that far away...
The Cavs stars played to ABOVE their average stats

The Warriors stars did not.. Had Klay shit at his normal Clip it's a 35 pt loss
 

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When I played basketball, there was a guy from my neighborhood that I used to always play 1 on 1 against. I was 6'3", and he was 5'11", I think he said. I was weighed more, too.

Well, I would post him up, and would score fairly easily. After that about four or five points, I would start shooting jumpers. Some games I'd win, some I'd lose.

He never asked me why I did that, tho'.

Well, years later, we were talking about basketball, and he asked me, "Why did you ALWAYS go away from posting up, when it was obviously working, just to shoot jumpers?"

I told him, "Why would I want to play you, and win a game easily? How much satisfaction can I have in a win I'm SUPPOSED to have? Where is the challenge in that?"

I'm a challenge oriented individual. I enjoy taking on difficult challenges, especially when the reward is high. Its just far more personally satisfying for me to do what is not easy to do.

For some people a W in a W.

But, when you remove personal biases because you like so and so athlete ...

...you can admit that, as a society, the more challenging it is to achieve something, the more respected it is. Period.

If the Celitcs had put out the Cavs, faced Golden State and won the championship, that ain't FAR more impressive than the Cavs beating GS? I'm talking about with the injury to Isaiah Thomas.

Dirk Nowitzki is one of my top 20 players all time now because he beat a team with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. He had not one guy on his squad who was a legit no. 1 scoring option. Lebron had TWO who had be no. 1 options prior to him.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but shit like that matters to me. It matters to everyone else, too - but people will protect their favorite players legacies no matter what.

...and don't get me wrong, I am not at all saying a team has to be stripped down like the Mavs team that beat the Heat, but when you construct a team that gives you an overwhelming advantage, that is not what SPORT is about. Not to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Some people may and HAVE said KDs move presents a different set of challenges tho... say they lose this series then what? LeBron set the blueprint, KD one upped him. LeBrons blueprint may come back to haunt him....

As Ive said, most of the fans swole are swole because he didnt come to their team.... players, especially retired 2nd tier players like Barkley and Reggie are swole because they didnt or couldnt do it when they played. All the other bullshit narrative is a weak ass attempt to hide the truth Bruh
 

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They were some missed assignments in transition. Cleveland needs to command rebounds better and stop giving the Dubs all those second chance shot attempts. If they can be more of a presence on the glass they'll be fine.

The game is much different if the Cavs were rebounding for sure and rebounding is an effort thing.

All five guys needs to be on the boards after a shot. That an effort thing. Dubs spent more time having two or 3 guys doing the scoring than having all four. The dubs hit their season average in points. That tells me, they did nothing different than what we've been seeing.

I expect the Cavs to match their intensity in game two, with a better focus on the boards, but they also better hit shots as well.
 

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That's the thing about the dubs though. They don't need everyone to play big because everyone can score whenever.

Especially when the Cavs just let you come in the lane uncontested. KD going off gave Klay a purpose to focus on D. They didn't need his scoring because KD and Steph had that under control.
Yep... but most people wont call out LeBron for all those damned missed assignments tho. Smh...
 

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The game is much different if the Cavs were rebounding for sure and rebounding is an effort thing.

All five guys needs to be on the boards after a shot. That an effort thing. Dubs spent more time having two or 3 guys doing the scoring than having all four. The dubs hit their season average in points. That tells me, they did nothing different than what we've been seeing.

I expect the Cavs to match their intensity in game two, with a better focus on the boards, but they also better hit shots as well.
If all 5 guys go to the boards its gonna be a lay up dunk drill for GS...
 

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Yep... but most people wont call out LeBron for all those damned missed assignments tho. Smh...

What I saw was a team uncertain of their defensive game plan. IMO, everyone needs to stay at home and switch on the pick and rolls. Take the ISO and bait GS into hitting jumpers instead of uncontested layups. Play the percentages and rebound. Bron had his mishaps on defense, but it was also everyone else not knowing what to do.

I don't think they game planned on the dubs attacking the rack the way they did.
 

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They were some missed assignments in transition. Cleveland needs to command rebounds better and stop giving the Dubs all those second chance shot attempts. If they can be more of a presence on the glass they'll be fine.
Love had what 19 rbs and bron 15 that's not sustainable
 

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If all 5 guys go to the boards its gonna be a lay up dunk drill for GS...

I'm talking about the defensive boards, not offensive. That would be crazy to do on offense. Love and Thomas should be the only two down there rebounding on offense. Everyone else needs to get back.
 

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The game is much different if the Cavs were rebounding for sure and rebounding is an effort thing.

All five guys needs to be on the boards after a shot. That an effort thing. Dubs spent more time having two or 3 guys doing the scoring than having all four. The dubs hit their season average in points. That tells me, they did nothing different than what we've been seeing.

I expect the Cavs to match their intensity in game two, with a better focus on the boards, but they also better hit shots as well.
Did the Warriors shoot at the same average?

That's the difference, there were maybe 10 blown layups by the Warriors and other high percentage shots were missed by Klay.. You can't count on that happening again
 

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Love had what 19 rbs and bron 15 that's not sustainable

It should have to be. Love having 19 boards tell me they were relying on him to clean up. Where was everyone else?

Take a page of the dubs book. Bron, Irving, smith, shump, and others (with exception of Love and Thomas) can rebound and start the break. That leads to immediate scramble for the dubs to match up. But love sitting down there rebounding is him boarding and looking for the outlet. This allows GS to set there defense up.

Dubs on the other hand rebounds with everyone and starts the break with whoever leads. That's hard as shit to matchup against on the fly.
 
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It should have to be. Love having 19 boards tell me they were relying on him to clean up. Where was everyone else?

Take a page of the dubs book. Bron, Irving, smith, shump, and others (with exception of Love and Thomas) can rebound and start the break. That leads to immediate scramble for the dubs to match up. But love sitting down there rebounding is him boarding and looking for the outlet. This allows GS to set there defense up.

Dubs on the other hand rebounds with everyone and starts the break with whoever leads. That's hard as shit to matchup against on the fly.

Not only that they was letting Bron shoot the 3 all night and not letting him get into play maker mode..

Ball movement is what's going to kill Cavs defense, that and them worrying about where Steph at on the break.. might as well call that mofo gravity because them lanes opening up
 

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If the Cavs lose this series, I fully expect for Lebron to campaign HARD for another All-Star. This one will be athletic, tho'.

I say that because, GS can effectively make it impossible for Lebron to win another ring again with their current roster.

KD basically out Lebron'd Lebron by going to GS.

That roster is kind of fucking scary in terms of offensive potency.

...and it don't help that Lebron is 32.

I hate to say it, but I don't think Kyrie gon' be able to carry Lebron. He got skills, but in order carry a team in the NBA Finals, you have to be a super-beast offensively.
 

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If the Cavs lose this series, I fully expect for Lebron to campaign HARD for another All-Star. This one will be athletic, tho'.

I say that because, GS can effectively make it impossible for Lebron to win another ring again with their current roster.

KD basically out Lebron'd Lebron by going to GS.

That roster is kind of fucking scary in terms of offensive potency.

...and it don't help that Lebron is 32.

I hate to say it, but I don't think Kyrie gon' be able to carry Lebron. He got skills, but in order carry a team in the NBA Finals, you have to be a super-beast offensively.
So should Kyrie jump shit, start complaining since its obvious LeBron is holding him back at this point?
 

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Cavs gonna have to get better production out Thompson, korver, d-will. 3 points and 6 rebounds not gonna cut it between all of them.
 
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