**** Official "LOST" Final Season Discussion Thread ****

[whackjobgrim]

That episode definitely made up for the last one. I don't understand where you guys are getting this idea that Jacob was/is bad and the guy who lies, manipulates and has a overall disdain for people is the good guy

What overall disdain for people? I haven't seen him attack anyone who hasn't attacked him. And remember you can't account for all the other smoke monster encounters. There were good and bad incidents with it. Plus the speculation that there could be multiple monsters. Did you not see all the names on the cave wall. There were mad names crossed out. If one were truly good why continue to bring people to the island to die and or possibly take your place. Flocke openly said he was once a man himself, he lost loved ones, he too is stuck on the island and desperately wants off. So you have to assume he may have been where Sawyer is now. And I wouldn't necessarily say Sawyer is evil. So for now I'll say Jacob and Flocke are on even keels. Cause you never know.

 

[Timdawg187]

What overall disdain for people? I haven't seen him attack anyone who hasn't attacked him. And remember you can't account for all the other smoke monster encounters. There were good and bad incidents with it. Plus the speculation that there could be multiple monsters. Did you not see all the names on the cave wall. There were mad names crossed out. If one were truly good why continue to bring people to the island to die and or possibly take your place. Flocke openly said he was once a man himself, he lost loved ones, he too is stuck on the island and desperately wants off. So you have to assume he may have been where Sawyer is now. And I wouldn't necessarily say Sawyer is evil. So for now I'll say Jacob and Flocke are on even keels. Cause you never know.

I just can't wait until all this shit is solved so I can sleep easy. A bruh could get an aneurysm thinkin about all this confusing shit and im mad they didn't show one second of Claire and Jin
sidenote: I like how they changed the flash-forward/back/side noise to kinda sound like the smoke monster

 

[Goingmark40]

too many questions....that little boy has to be aaron cause wasnt claire on the island last week when she shot them dudes? i cant figure out why he'd tell locke u know the rules...when locke has killed many occxasions as the smoke monster. its obvious tho that the smoke monster is bound/cursed to the island and is trying to get off.

 

[DTaylor]

Desmond's son, where is he?
could this be who Jacob is battling?
What if the Koren guy is Jin's son?

 

[MonkeyBizness]

Random observation.

i started watching Season 1 again. In Episode 4, Locke is the focus of the flashbacks.

In the scene where his manager is giving him a hard time while Locke is at his desk, Locke is entering numbers in an office calculator, the old school one with the roll of paper.
if you listen to the sound of the calculator as it prints onto the paper, it makes the same sound as the Smoke Monster.

 

[chemist]

I'm glad that they explained the obsession with the numbers(4 8 15 16 23 42), that shit was getting annoying.

16 - Jarrah
8 - Reyes
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon
4 - Locke
15 - Ford

Where's Sun/Jin's and Kate's names at? Since their names aren't on the wall does that mean their not candidates?

What do the numbers mean?

 

[chemist]

What was the significance of the white rock that Locke thru in the ocean?

 

[whackjobgrim]

What was the significance of the white rock that Locke thru in the ocean?

The white rock equaled the weight of the black rock which balanced the scale. The balance of good and evil.

 

[chemist]

The white rock equaled the weight of the black rock which balanced the scale. The balance of good and evil.

I looked at it again. I wasn't paying attention and didn't see the black rock the first time.

 

[HeavyArmz]

16 - Jarrah
8 - Reyes
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon
4 - Locke
15 - Ford

Where's Sun/Jin's and Kate's names at? Since their names aren't on the wall does that mean their not candidates?

What do the numbers mean?

Sun and Jin's last name is Kwon.

 

[Flawless]

so whats so great about the island why these 2 spirit guys live there?

 

[whackjobgrim]

so whats so great about the island why these 2 spirit guys live there?

So far the only things that I can see is theres a fountain of youth, electromagnetic activity, the ability of the island being able to move itself, and possibly the key to time travel. I've been watching since season 1. Theres still a lot of questions that need answering.

 

[DTaylor]

16 - Jarrah
8 - Reyes
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon
4 - Locke
15 - Ford

When you add these numbers = 108
The reset time!

Maybe these were there seat numbers on the plane?

 

[chemist]

Sun and Jin's last name is Kwon.

On the show he said Kwon but didn't know whether it was Sun or Jin.

 

[whackjobgrim]

16 - Jarrah
8 - Reyes
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon
4 - Locke
15 - Ford

When you add these numbers = 108
The reset time!

Maybe these were there seat numbers on the plane?

I dont think so cause Hugo and Sawyer were sitting directly across the aisle from one another.

 

[whackjobgrim]

On the show he said Kwon but didn't know whether it was Sun or Jin.

I got a feeling its neither. Its probably their child.
I say that cause they're the only people Jacob visited while they were with their significant other that didn't die. Plus he blessed both of them. And the whole hoopla of Sun being pregnant on the island.

 

[TimRock]

What if the Koren guy is Jin's son?

what korean guy? Miles? Dude at the temple?

 

[TimRock]

also, did anyone peep when Lockes girl said they would invite johns father to the wedding? So does this mean that John didnt get injured because of his father? Who invites their father to their wedding, after they threw him out of a window?

 

[Jane & Finch]

also, did anyone peep when Lockes girl said they would invite johns father to the wedding? So does this mean that John didnt get injured because of his father? Who invites their father to their wedding, after they threw him out of a window?

I thought that was a con man and not his real father.

He stole on Locke and got his kidney, Locke went to confront him about it afterwards and during that confrontation is when he pushed Locke out of the window.

No?

 

[TimRock]

I thought that was a con man and not his real father.

He stole on Locke and got his kidney, Locke went to confront him about it afterwards and during that confrontation is when he pushed Locke out of the window.

No?

nah, its his real father, i believe.

 

[whackjobgrim]

I thought that was a con man and not his real father.

He stole on Locke and got his kidney, Locke went to confront him about it afterwards and during that confrontation is when he pushed Locke out of the window.

No?

I believe that is his real father, he just happens to be a con-man.

 

[Jane & Finch]

nah, its his real father, i believe.

I believe that is his real father, he just happens to be a con-man.

Ouch!.

 

[TimRock]

Ouch!.

yeah, they never said it wasnt his real father. but with Lost, you never know.

 

[Timdawg187]

Desmond's son, where is he?
could this be who Jacob is battling?
What if the Koren guy is Jin's son?

what Korean guy? Miles? I don't think he's Korean and Miles (guy that is at the Temple) father is the guy that did the Dharma videos, he was also some sort of scientist I guess, he forced his wife and baby Miles to go on the sub and vanished after the "explosion"

 

[Jagi]

I'd like a gif of richard running off scared

 

[Kubrick]

What overall disdain for people? I haven't seen him attack anyone who hasn't attacked him. And remember you can't account for all the other smoke monster encounters. There were good and bad incidents with it. Plus the speculation that there could be multiple monsters. Did you not see all the names on the cave wall. There were mad names crossed out. If one were truly good why continue to bring people to the island to die and or possibly take your place. Flocke openly said he was once a man himself, he lost loved ones, he too is stuck on the island and desperately wants off. So you have to assume he may have been where Sawyer is now. And I wouldn't necessarily say Sawyer is evil. So for now I'll say Jacob and Flocke are on even keels. Cause you never know.

The only assumptions I make about the Smoke Monste/Flocke is that it is a liar and manipulator. The disdain I spoke about earlier was first displayed during last season's finale when he said "they come, they fight, they corrupt, etc" Also when he was talking to Ben at the beginning of the season and he talked about what a pathetic person Locke was for whatever reason.

I think the scene where he chucked the white rock into the ocean let's you know which side he favors.

 

[Count23]

Damn I'ma rewatch this ep, was pretty frekin good.

 

[Jagi]

Names on the Wall
4 - Locke (John)
8 - Reyes (Hurley)
10 - Mattingley - Other
15 - Ford (James)
16 - Jarrah (Sayid)
23 - Shephard (Jack)
31 - Rutherford (Shannon)
42 - Kwon (Jin or Sun)
56 - Burke - (Juliet)
64 - Goodspeed (Horace, Ethan)
70 - Faraday (Daniel)
73 - Costa - ?
90 - Troupe - ?
115 - Bargas - ?
117 - Linus (Ben, Roger)
119 - Almeida - ?
142 - Lewis (Charlotte)
171 - Straume (Miles)
195 - Pace (Charlie)
222 - O'Toole - U.S. Military
233 - Jones - U.S. Military
291 - Domingo - U.S. Military
313 - Littleton (Claire or Aaron)
317 - Cunningham - U.S. Military
337 - Martin (Karl) - Other
346 - Grant - U.S. Military

Partial
20 - Rous (Possibly Rousseau)
25 - ___
30 - ___
33 - ___
49 - Cha (Possibly Chang)
62 - ___
251 - ___
260 - ___
272 - ___
285 - Jen (Possibly Jenkins)
330 - ___
__ - Reynolds
__ - Sullivan
__ - Lacombe

 

[DTaylor]

what Korean guy? Miles? I don't think he's Korean and Miles (guy that is at the Temple) father is the guy that did the Dharma videos, he was also some sort of scientist I guess, he forced his wife and baby Miles to go on the sub and vanished after the "explosion"

No, I know who Miles and his Father is. I'm talking about the guy at the temple; if you noticed when Jin and the rest of them got to the Temple the camera made it a point to get eye contact between them two.

 

[Tinman]

I'd like a gif of richard running off scared

Yeah, Richard got his ass handed to him...


You'd think a guy around 200 years old would've had some better moves than to get sucker punched in the throat...

 

[Jagi]

Yeah, Richard got his ass handed to him...


You'd think a guy around 200 years old would've had some better moves than to get sucker punched in the throat...

 

[indiashan305]

Funniest line of the season SO FAR.
Sawyer: Whos the kid?
Flocke: You can see him?
Sawyer: Hell yea I can see him.

LMAO

 

[JaRonin]

I have to watch this epi again when I get off work to see if I can make more sense of this whole numbers thing. But here is something that someone brought to my attention today. Watch this scene from season 3.


Knowing what we know now, do y'all think that two smoke monsters were battling there? Or was that some other shit going on?

 

[TimRock]

No, I know who Miles and his Father is. I'm talking about the guy at the temple; if you noticed when Jin and the rest of them got to the Temple the camera made it a point to get eye contact between them two.

i doubt it. thats a bit much. and didnt they have a daughter?

 

[TimRock]

Knowing what we know now, do y'all think that two smoke monsters were battling there? Or was that some other shit going on?

i have no clue, but i know ben was able to summon a smoke monster as well. also, Ilana said that whoever is in locke, is stuck there and cant take any other forms. so who appeard in the form of Alex when ben was judged at the temple?