**** Official "LOST" Final Season Discussion Thread ****

TimRock

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Names on the Wall
10 - Mattingley - Other
222 - O'Toole - U.S. Military
233 - Jones - U.S. Military
291 - Domingo - U.S. Military
317 - Cunningham - U.S. Military
346 - Grant - U.S. Military

these people were all associated with the army. they were killed by Richard and the others. these people were sent to the island to test out Jughead. Why would Richard kill people that Jacob brought to the island? More importantly, why are they canidates, if they came to destroy the island?
 

Jagi

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Its possible, but thats something they would have to explain.


But we see the ship coming to land when MIB and Jacob are sitting on the beach. You think the island moved while it was on its way there?



Do you think his great grandfather, Magnus Hanso was aboard the Black Rock.

Regarding the army, check this:
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/United_States_Army



ahh of course jughead.. that makes sense..


as for the island moving..

there was one episode where we learned that there were 2 islands
and now there is 1 island under water
when ben was off the island last season he and faraday's mom dicussed that the island is no longer where our losties knew it to be

of course its all speculation and theory
 

Jagi

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these people were all associated with the army. they were killed by Richard and the others. these people were sent to the island to test out Jughead. Why would Richard kill people that Jacob brought to the island? More importantly, why are they canidates, if they came to destroy the island?

there are two teams it seems. jacob is recruiting one team and Flocke/MIB is recruiting another team.
 

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When Sawyer was explaning Of Mice and Men to Locke, didn't Locke say that it was after his time..I just checked, it was published in '37....
 

TimRock

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there are two teams it seems. jacob is recruiting one team and Flocke/MIB is recruiting another team.

so all the names of people in cave were recruited by jacob right? so jacob recruited people from the army, whos mission was to bring jughead there and test it out?
 

TimRock

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When Sawyer was explaning Of Mice and Men to Locke, didn't Locke say that it was after his time..I just checked, it was published in '37....

yeah, after his time. hes been there since the 1800s or so, i believe.
 

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depending on the theory you follow:

she is already chosen, not a candidate.

jacob did come to her when she was a child and tried to steal that lunchbox.. so it sort makes you scratch your head about the first theory.

she is the prize.

one theory.. end of days is coming. the candidates are for the future adam and eve..like mentioned above. . she has been chosen to be eve..

she is not special enough.. she is nothign more than a workman with a job to do.. similar to the Kwon's.. jacob touched both of them at the wedding but its only one Kwon that is a candidate. could be their child.

no mention of michael either or walt or any of the other kids that were abducted.

not sure if we ever got cindy's last name either.


desmond?

charlie?
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anyone peep the sneak peek?

seems that everyone takes over someone elses role.

jack took over ethan's job as surgeon/doctor

locke/jack took over ben's role as leader.

claire took over rousso's crazy role and child abducted?

miles/hurley speak to the dead like richard and ben.

etc

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desmond is an odd one too. since things changed, dharma and everyone left the island the swan hatch was blown up..

1. did widmore never get to conceive penny?
2. did desmond end up not becoming a monk? (where he met penny)
3. did he not run the solar race? (did this to earn penny's fathers, widmore, approval) which then lead him to crash his sail boat on the island.. but the island is underwater so did he run the race but the island was never there to make him crash?

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charlie?

he wanted to kill himself and was pretty mad that jack saved him.. is it island related or did is he just a washed up musician junkie in this reality?

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if the island moved etc.. then lenny never went crazy.. so he never went to the mental institution.. was hugo there though? how did he win the lotto without the numbers he got from lenny?

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where is vincent?

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where are bernard and rose as far as those on the island?

This rabbit hole is DEEP!
 

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^^^damn, good shit.
which is the spoiler that mentions Ilana as Jacobs daughter?

I will find the spoiler that mentions Ilana as Jacobs daughter it was on the Lost forum somewhere in the general spoilers forum http://forum.lostpedia.com/general-spoiler-discussion-f35.html?
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http://forum.lostpedia.com/ilana-t47269.html
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Ok in the substitute spoiler http://lostspoilers.wikia.com/wiki/The_Substitute

# DarkUFO (Spoiler source): Ilana is Jacob's child. Either Locke or Ben (likely Ben) is a substitute teacher in the alternate timeline.

* TRUE, Locke is the substitute teacher and Ben is a full-time teacher.

# DarkUFO (Spoiler source): In this episode, there will be a funeral for someone with the intials JL, something connecting the smoke monster with "fake Locke," a double meaning in the title, a temp agency, a familiar scholar of European history, and Ilana's importance to the island revealed. Ben will also tell some lies.

* TRUE



Yeah there are spoilers all over the net. Some of them have some proof to go along with them from inside sources on or around the set.

LOST S6 - SET VIDEO - 26TH JAN 2010





Lost:

A ton of set reports from the Transmission podcast. The Ajira Airways plane has a Dharma gas tank nearby.Hurley had a big night scene with Jack, plus there are nine fresh graves on the beach and Hurley seems to be grieving at one of them. There was a big scene involving Sayid, Kate, Locke, Sawyer, Claire and Sun, plus a bunch of "Temple Others."

Then another big scene at the beach camp, involving Jack, Ben, Sun, Hurley, Illana, Frank and Richard. Illana hands her gun to Richard just long enough to get something out of her bag. Is the thing in Illana's bag explosives? It sounds like she sets off a giant explosion, which destroys what's left of Claire's tent, and uncovers a pit, similar to the Hatch — and she falls, possibly to her death. Also, Hurley's in the middle of the smoke, and then (ghost?) Michael comes out of the jungle. And it sounds like Michael and Hurley talk about the well, and possibly the fact that Locke pushed Desmond into the well.

Jack, Hurley, Claire and Sawyer, and a ton of Others, had a scene in the Others' village, and another village scene included Sayid, Locke, Jack, Cindy, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sun and a bunch of "Locke's Others."

Meanwhile, in the alt-universe, Jack's law-firm scene had greenscreens outside the windows. Sawyer and Miles, the cop buddies, have an emergency-room scene, and Kate may have been there. Also, there are two ambulances: Sun is in one, and Locke is in the other, accompanied by Ben. Desmond and Claire were back at the Constellation tower, and also there were Jack and a young man — Jack's son, possibly — both wearing suits.

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/02/latest-from-ryan-podcast-feb-7th.html#axzz0et0pFN1p

And set pics and video show Hurley talking to Michael in the cemetery, and then Hurley talking to Jack. Jack has a shotgun, and leaves Hurley behind, still in the cemetery. Ilana also talks to Hurley by the gravesite, and she too is toting a shotgun. And the Ajira plane was already on set.

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-set-photos-and-report-26th-jan.html#ixzz0eukpOD4c

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Hurley is a "Jacob man" and is going to stay a "Jacob man," as people take sides in the Jacob/MIB war, says Jorge Garcia. And the stakes in the battle between good and evil are meaningful, say the producers.
 

TimRock

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im rewatching the last episode. remember the part before flocke cuts richard down from the tree? the smoke monster is going to sawyers house (floating around the houses). its in the form of the smoke monster and not locke. right after it gets to the house, we see flocke and richard talking in the woods. then after they talk, flocke goes to sawyers house. why would he go to sawyers house in the form of the smoke monster, stop, go cut richard down, and then go back to sawyers house as flocke?
 

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im rewatching the last episode. remember the part before flocke cuts richard down from the tree? the smoke monster is going to sawyers house (floating around the houses). its in the form of the smoke monster and not locke. right after it gets to the house, we see flocke and richard talking in the woods. then after they talk, flocke goes to sawyers house. why would he go to sawyers house in the form of the smoke monster, stop, go cut richard down, and then go back to sawyers house as flocke?

I noticed that too. But maybe he was more interested in recruiting Richard first being as though he took him with him. Then after Richard declined I guess he decided to recruit Sawyer. My guess is he only needs one person to help get him off the Island. More so a replacement. And as far as being the Smoke Monster, it seems that hes able to move across the island a lot faster than he would as Flocke. And I think the reason he changed back to Flocke was cause it be easier to get Sawyer to go along with what he was trying to kick to him as apposed to fully explaining his situation. It probably wouldn't have made a difference. Cause no one on this island ask any questions or the right questions anyway.
 

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im rewatching the last episode. remember the part before flocke cuts richard down from the tree? the smoke monster is going to sawyers house (floating around the houses). its in the form of the smoke monster and not locke. right after it gets to the house, we see flocke and richard talking in the woods. then after they talk, flocke goes to sawyers house. why would he go to sawyers house in the form of the smoke monster, stop, go cut richard down, and then go back to sawyers house as flocke?

Yo!!!! Thank you for posting that because I thought that I was the only one that saw that that whole sequence was out of whack. Also if you notice when they show the reflection of the smoke monster in the window, doesnt it look white? I know that there were white blinds in the window, so it may have been an illusion. But I think that we may have been watching two separate smoke monsters. You never know with this show....
 

TimRock

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Yo!!!! Thank you for posting that because I thought that I was the only one that saw that that whole sequence was out of whack. Also if you notice when they show the reflection of the smoke monster in the window, doesnt it look white? I know that there were white blinds in the window, so it may have been an illusion. But I think that we may have been watching two separate smoke monsters. You never know with this show....

nah, it was black. you can see it on the right side of the screen.

whack, what you are saying makes sense, but think about this. he knocks richard out, carries him around, strings him up, then supposedly changes to the smoke monster, goes over to sawyers house, but doesnt do anything. changes back to flocke and then goes and asks richard to join him. that doesnt seem right. why not ask richard first, then change to the smoke monster and float on over to sawyers. why make two trips?
 

TimRock

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something else to think about, Ben was on the Island since the 70's when he was kid. how is he now a teacher? Does this mean he was never on the island?
 

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Yo!!!! Thank you for posting that because I thought that I was the only one that saw that that whole sequence was out of whack. Also if you notice when they show the reflection of the smoke monster in the window, doesnt it look white? I know that there were white blinds in the window, so it may have been an illusion. But I think that we may have been watching two separate smoke monsters. You never know with this show....

Saw that too. I wonder if Smoke monster is a disembodied John Locke, since Ilana told Ben that Flocke could no longer change his face and that he is stuck that way.
 
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TimRock

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I will find the spoiler that mentions Ilana as Jacobs daughter it was on the Lost forum somewhere in the general spoilers forum

about that wiki for spoilers, i noticed that it gets edited after episodes to make it seem like the person is right. all the information on The Substitute wasnt the same as when i first read it. Im gonna pay extra attention to whats written for next weeks episode.
 

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if thats the case, everyone who was on the plane is alive. ecko, anna lucia, the two that got buried alive.

and where the hell is vincent?

Yea. Where the hell is Vincent? If he is still there, he would have had to survive time traveling and an explosion. I am sure he won't have his own flashback episode, but he is an important part of the story IMO. He was the one that woke Jack up after the 815 crash....
 

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Yea. Where the hell is Vincent? If he is still there, he would have had to survive time traveling and an explosion. I am sure he won't have his own flashback episode, but he is an important part of the story IMO. He was the one that woke Jack up after the 815 crash....

He was with Rose and her husband so I guess when we find out what happened to them on the island then we'll find out what happened to him.
 

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When Sawyer was explaning Of Mice and Men to Locke, didn't Locke say that it was after his time..I just checked, it was published in '37....

I think Dark Locke is implying that he finished reading long ago and Of Mice and Men was after his completed readings. I'm sensing some supernatural components here. I am channeling Satan.
 

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something else to think about, Ben was on the Island since the 70's when he was kid. how is he now a teacher? Does this mean he was never on the island?
Its an alterate reality which takes place as if the bomb goes off, thus altering everyones path who would have ended up on the island. Its done to show how all the people who would have ended up on the island would have eventually interacted with one another regardless.
 

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nah, it was black. you can see it on the right side of the screen.

whack, what you are saying makes sense, but think about this. he knocks richard out, carries him around, strings him up, then supposedly changes to the smoke monster, goes over to sawyers house, but doesnt do anything. changes back to flocke and then goes and asks richard to join him. that doesnt seem right. why not ask richard first, then change to the smoke monster and float on over to sawyers. why make two trips?

When Flock carried Richard off into the jungle he (Richard) was knocked out, so Flocke strung him up so he wouldn't come to and run off while he went off (as smoke cause he move around better as smoke) to see if Saywer was home.

Just my 2 cents
 

TimRock

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He was with Rose and her husband so I guess when we find out what happened to them on the island then we'll find out what happened to him.
yeah, thats right. forgot about that.
When Flock carried Richard off into the jungle he (Richard) was knocked out, so Flocke strung him up so he wouldn't come to and run off while he went off (as smoke cause he move around better as smoke) to see if Saywer was home.

Just my 2 cents
aight, but still doesnt make sense to me.
 
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