POWER Book all seasons discussion thread (Power Book II: Ghost canceled )

[Ming Fei Hong]

That whole scene was fucked up compared to the last 2 episodes. You know ghost ain't dying. You know 50 ain't killin himself off his own show this quick. It was impossible to make that scene remotely believable. That whole scene was outside of both they characters to do that much talking and lalligaggin

Word, the nigga shot/killed his son with less chitchat than when he had the drop on Ghost. Just squeeze the trigger then talk shit as he's dying. Why monologue with the gun held close enough for him to slap it out of your hand (again)? I'm surprised how Empire'ish the writing got in the last few scenes. It was as if we were watching a hurried re-write.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

I'm having a difficult time judging the season finale based solely on how much I HATE Holly. I'd rather see Shawn reincarnated as a houseplant that still drives Ghost around town than watch even 2 more seconds of Holly. She makes Tommy dumber than Ghost make Angela.

 

[stretchwallz]

Lobos knows Ghost tried to kill him

Tommy and Tasha are liabilities for Ghost

Kaanan still breathing? Holly back in town ?

Ghost is gonna have Dre killing a lot of people in Season 3 ...while trying to be legit club owner (while Sterns goes Deep White and strikes back)

Unintelligent of Ghost to leave Tommy, Angela & Kaanan alive ...Turtle was correct kill them all.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

STARZ should have gone the HBO or GAME OF THRONES route (CONCENTRATE MORE ON THE STORY AND LESS ON CHARACTERS)

Kill off Angela
Kill off 50
Kill off Tasha
Kill off Holly
Kill off Tommy

Then they should have brought new characters (I liked the Mexican drugloards story line) but I would have been more interested in having GHOST character having more challenges such as cleaning the money through complicated yet simlple to understand investment schemes such (more or less STRINGERBELL ROUTE).


Since this show is set in New York I would imagine GHOST should have the best brains working for him and he should have all politicians in his pocket. Example the show writers could have shown the SMART BLACK MAN *even though he's a drug dealer) taking advantage of a clause in the New York city’s complicated property-tax code, which taxes different types of abode at different rates, and favours homeowners at the expense of renters essentially Ghost could be not only the biggest drug dealer in NYC but with brains to back up his complicated investment schemes such as the 421-a programme, which exempts new construction from property taxes for decades on the condition that they also build some more affordable units.


Ghost could also keep the apartment but wouldnt it be nice if he lived in a country house in Hudson Valley and the like. Ghost should have a private jet to be taken serious as a major player.


I wanna see Ghost having more complications and at the same time ruthless, and not getting his hands dirty like Don Corleone in the The Godfather but his brutality should match the Sinaloa Cartel. We want the show to be as dark as Game of Thrones....

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

I think there was a missed opportunity to make Dre a more complicated character. Not at all Kanaan, but not quite Ghost. Lobos could have empowered HIM in Kanaan's absence (death), NOT bring back that fucking red head bitch Holly, have Tommy work with Dre against Ghost, bring Angela over to the dark side, and introduce a whole new villain to serve as the main antagonist. I understand why they won't kill Tasha, but they really fucked up her character with poor development. Her character actually regressed. Falling in love and planning to run off with Sean and only 200k??? C'mon, man. Stop. I don't know what to do with her at this point, because getting revenge for Sean is a weak as plot for her and she's basically lost everywhere else.

 

[Thumper]

Hold on one second! I just re watched the last two episodes and there is one HUGE question that has never been answered. None of yall niggas caught it either!


WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL THAT MONEY?!!!!!!


Remember, they took the money out of the laundry building, but they never delivered it to Lobos!! Nobody knew where the meet was going to be, so they couldn't have given the money to Lobos because only Ghost and Tommy went to the hotel and neither one brought the money with them!!

I know Angela mentioned something about Tommy and Lobos being caught with a large amount of money but that couldn't have happened because the money was never delivered!

 

[TENT]

In real life, Ghost would have caught fire as well.
Let someone try this shit with real gasoline.

Ghost poured gasoline all over the nigga and lit him up. In real life, Kanan would have been cooked on the spot. He should have went "WOOF!" in a ball of flames with all that gas Ghost poured on him. Ghost didn't fuck up. The Power writers fucked up.

Even if that's true, he should still be dead or burned to a crisp from the direct flames all over his body.
It won't make any sense whatsoever if 50 doesn't come back on season three looking like Fire Marshal Bob.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Hold on one second! I just re watched the last two episodes and there is one HUGE question that has never been answered. None of yall niggas caught it either!


WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL THAT MONEY?!!!!!!


Remember, they took the money out of the laundry building, but they never delivered it to Lobos!! Nobody knew where the meet was going to be, so they couldn't have given the money to Lobos because only Ghost and Tommy went to the hotel and neither one brought the money with them!!

I know Angela mentioned something about Tommy and Lobos being caught with a large amount of money but that couldn't have happened because the money was never delivered!

I thought Ghost kept the money. They didn't straight up say that, but that's the impression I got.

In real life, Ghost would have caught fire as well.
Let someone try this shit with real gasoline.

Yeah, the way that gas spread was completely unreal.

 

[Djmarkxr7]

after she was ready to snitch nah. it doesnt make sense.

?!?

She was ready to go to jail for Tommy, it was Ghost she snitched on, you know, the dude that was sending her away!

After Ghost and Tommy had their heart to heart and supposedly had no more lies between them, here comes one BIG one, although as I also said and agreed with earlier, he did go back real quick to a chick that left him handcuffed to his bed!

Angela fell back into bed too quickly as well, even though he kept her from being disbarred, he still put her in that position.

 

[JerZ]

Hold on one second! I just re watched the last two episodes and there is one HUGE question that has never been answered. None of yall niggas caught it either!


WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL THAT MONEY?!!!!!!


Remember, they took the money out of the laundry building, but they never delivered it to Lobos!! Nobody knew where the meet was going to be, so they couldn't have given the money to Lobos because only Ghost and Tommy went to the hotel and neither one brought the money with them!!

I know Angela mentioned something about Tommy and Lobos being caught with a large amount of money but that couldn't have happened because the money was never delivered!

All that cash in the laundry mat didn't belong to Lobo's. They were having problems mixing it when he lost the club, so it was piling up. Tommy got caught with half of what was due, and i assume Ghost had an empty suitcase.

Ghost mentioned buying the 3 clubs back from Sterns wife, he could've dipped into the stash for that.

 

[BDR]

I refused to come in this thread until I saw the finale.. Shit was good

Marlo caught the Sam Jackson treatment after the JFK heist in good fellas

Lmaoo at Jeminez being Ghost... Losbo caught the mean ice pick.. Got emm

Next season Kaanan good look like two face

Tasha a straight up bird...

ill shit how Losbo got the Feds in his back pocket, season 3 def gonna be some shit with new players involved

 

[Djmarkxr7]

They stretched or exagerated shit but no shark jumps - and never lazy writing

Tommy and 50 plots were just lazy - with better writing they could have ended up at the same place in the story:

50 alive but presumed dead
Tommy and Ghost rift
Tommy with Holly

And none of us left feeling disappointed...

LOL, and just remember who we're talking about here, a mofo who SURVIVED getting shot NINE times!!!

 

[yaBoi]

just watch the last ep

came here to see if i was tripping



y'all nailed it...

 

[keone]

?!?

She was ready to go to jail for Tommy, it was Ghost she snitched on, you know, the dude that was sending her away!

After Ghost and Tommy had their heart to heart and supposedly had no more lies between them, here comes one BIG one, although as I also said and agreed with earlier, he did go back real quick to a chick that left him handcuffed to his bed!

Angela fell back into bed too quickly as well, even though he kept her from being disbarred, he still put her in that position.

Thing is she is a snitch. Even if it was to save Tommy. Think about it. If she snitched on ghost. Ghost wasn't the only one going dowwn. Tasha and tommy too.

Thee fact that she was even considering snitching is a no no. For a guy likee tommy. What will she do when she gets mad at you in the future?

It's one thing to not kill her but to keep fucking with her again nah.

As far as the 50 thing goes they wasn't going to kill anyone off from ep1 is a loyalty thing. I do agree that they could have wrote it different. But shit omar jumped from a building and survived.

 

[BDR]

Thing is she is a snitch. Even if it was to save Tommy. Think about it. If she snitched on ghost. Ghost wasn't the only one going dowwn. Tasha and tommy too.

Thee fact that she was even considering snitching is a no no. For a guy likee tommy. What will she do when she gets mad at you in the future?

It's one thing to not kill her but to keep fucking with her again nah.

As far as the 50 thing goes they wasn't going to kill anyone off from ep1 is a loyalty thing. I do agree that they could have wrote it different. But shit omar jumped from a building and survived.

Omar got caught slipping by the more unsuspecting character in the history of tv tho lol

 

[RunawaySlave]

They stretched or exagerated shit but no shark jumps - and never lazy writing

Tommy and 50 plots were just lazy - with better writing they could have ended up at the same place in the story:

50 alive but presumed dead
Tommy and Ghost rift
Tommy with Holly

And none of us left feeling disappointed...

Not me. I was HIGHLY disappointed. It was good until 50 walked into that old ass worn out building with the spanking new (that apparently no one noticed....not even Ghost) sprinkler system
If Kanan is dead, it's a great finale. Any other scenario, it becomes an episode of Empire like Ming mentions... and I stopped watching that soap opera halfway through episode 2

 

[keone]

Omar got caught slipping by the more unsuspecting character in the history of tv tho lol

 

[LegalMoney]

I can already guess how this Kanaan Dent thing is going to work:

Kanaan will be lurking in the shadows watching Ghost and Tommy, he'll pop up on Dre and try to flip him, eventually he'll be in a position to kill Ghost but Dre is going have to choose between saving Ghost or killing Kanaan, he'll kill Kanaan of course....to which Kanaan will magically be immune to bullets and live another day..

 

[Thumper]

All that cash in the laundry mat didn't belong to Lobo's. They were having problems mixing it when he lost the club, so it was piling up. Tommy got caught with half of what was due, and i assume Ghost had an empty suitcase.

Ghost mentioned buying the 3 clubs back from Sterns wife, he could've dipped into the stash for that.

They owed Lobos millions for all the coke they moved. No way they could pack millions of dollars into one duffel bag, even if it was brand new hundreds. But at least the writers had them carying something to the meet

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

Simple. Ghost didn't kill Ruiz because his main goal was to remove Ruiz's daughter so she couldn't testify against Angela in court. If he had just shot Ruiz, his family would have stayed in NY and the feds would have access to the daughter. By telling Ruiz that him and his family were in danger and needed to disappear, he accomplished what he needed done.

Anyone else notice that Ruiz (a top cocaine dealer in the organization) lived in a dumpy ass, small apartment? When they had that episode where he took his daughter's cell phone from her, I was surprised that he was still living in the hood.

not everyone want the condo

downtown nyc like ghost.​

I wonder how they are going to address Ghost's tats in season 3. Will he get tatted on the show or will they at least discuss his new tats. In real life he all sleeved up now with tats. I wonder how that will work it's way into the show.

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I did and there was some over the top unrealistic shit in there as well

tv is not reality!​

 

[MonkeyBizness]

Game of Thrones provided the blueprint for 1hr drama. The key is the story, not the characters. Don't be afraid to kill off main characters when it allows you to introduce new characters that are guaranteed to move the story forward. Now we have to deal with 3 seasons of 50 Cent and Ghost. It's fucking stupid. This is how good shows never become great.

 

[Jay_from_dade]

Game of Thrones provided the blueprint for 1hr drama. The key is the story, not the characters. Don't be afraid to kill off main characters when it allows you to introduce new characters that are guaranteed to move the story forward. Now we have to deal with 3 seasons of 50 Cent and Ghost. It's fucking stupid. This is how good shows never become great.

Dont like the game of thrones Reference, but I do agree with the red.

 

[LSN]

Game of Thrones provided the blueprint for 1hr drama. The key is the story, not the characters. Don't be afraid to kill off main characters when it allows you to introduce new characters that are guaranteed to move the story forward. Now we have to deal with 3 seasons of 50 Cent and Ghost. It's fucking stupid. This is how good shows never become great.

absolutely...that being said I enjoy this show fwiw...I'm watching ray donovan now and it's an entertaining show but you know dude is never going to die or go to prison until maybe the last ep of the series if ever...it requires a lot of suspension of belief but it's still a good show...I'm not entirely upset w/ kanan living but they way they went about it was entirely bullshit

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Hopefully angie dies next season please.

ghost fucking idiotic simple minded dumb ass has everyone he ever loved about to murder him over her.

i kinda hope he gets got to be honest. he deserves it.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Omar got caught slipping by the more unsuspecting character in the history of tv tho lol

not even unsuspecting. not on his radar. its a kid lol

 

[MonkeyBizness]

Dont like the game of thrones Reference, but I do agree with the red.

absolutely...that being said I enjoy this show fwiw...I'm watching ray donovan now and it's an entertaining show but you know dude is never going to die or go to prison until maybe the last ep of the series if ever...it requires a lot of suspension of belief but it's still a good show...I'm not entirely upset w/ kanan living but they way they went about it was entirely bullshit

A great drama is a roller coaster ride without that safety bar.

Game of Thrones put the focus on the story and not the character. A great plot leaves viewers in suspense. Shit, Breaking Bad did it even with Walter White as the main character. What was going to get him first, the other criminals or the cancer? Shit, look at Homeland. They finally killed Brody because they had to push the series forward.

Here is the problem with Power. None of the main characters are going to catch it. And 50 Cent is the villain, but he is now going to be in the first three seasons. Three seasons as a villain? Stop it. Shit. Look at another drug drama, The Wire. Ninjas came and went in that show. Kept you on your toes.

 

[rNubb]

Maybe I didn't read back far enough but the Lead Dude of the special crime unit brought Lobo a cellphone while he was locked down in the bed with his guts sliced up. Dude called Lobos hefe/boss and left the room without the cellphone. That ain't procedure.

Dude was also the one that had the task force setup at the wrong location. He stepped to Angie and asked her how she knew the real location

Next we see Tommy being told to kill Ghost.

Dude put a leash on Angela from the get go.

Dude is Lobos inside man.

Dude man kill Lobos and replace him with Ghost.

 

[Smoke Van Gundy]

Maybe I didn't read back far enough but the Lead Dude of the special crime unit brought Lobo a cellphone while he was locked down in the bed with his guts sliced up. Dude called Lobos hefe/boss and left the room without the cellphone. That ain't procedure.

Dude was also the one that had the task force setup at the wrong location. He stepped to Angie and asked her how she knew the real location

Next we see Tommy being told to kill Ghost.

Dude put a leash on Angela from the get go.

Dude is Lobos inside man.

Dude man kill Lobos and replace him with Ghost.

Thats a good point. When you look back at the season a lot of little things come up. All the intel they had came from Angela, he had to bring her in to watch her

But Lobos wanted Ghost and Tommy dead to begin with. They had the room set up to slice and dice they ass up when he thought they was bringing the money. How Tommy aint peep that tho is the strange part to me

 

[LSN]

ya I missed it...but someone mentioned it and I went back and watched that part and yall are both spot on...I don't get the last line tho that I emboldened...are you saying it was his plan to stab lobos and have ghost replace him?

Maybe I didn't read back far enough but the Lead Dude of the special crime unit brought Lobo a cellphone while he was locked down in the bed with his guts sliced up. Dude called Lobos hefe/boss and left the room without the cellphone. That ain't procedure.

Dude was also the one that had the task force setup at the wrong location. He stepped to Angie and asked her how she knew the real location

Next we see Tommy being told to kill Ghost.

Dude put a leash on Angela from the get go.

Dude is Lobos inside man.

Dude man kill Lobos and replace him with Ghost.

 

[rNubb]

Thats a good point. When you look back at the season a lot of little things come up. All the intel they had came from Angela, he had to bring her in to watch her

But Lobos wanted Ghost and Tommy dead to begin with. They had the room set up to slice and dice they ass up when he thought they was bringing the money. How Tommy aint peep that tho is the strange part to me

Lobos was just Wilding out. He was about to scorch the dope landscape.

Lobos is in custody and broke so he is done. He is going to need to be replaced.

Lobos and the Captain probably have the same boss. I see ghost being forced into that role

 

[DjMorpheus]

Ghost and Angela could be the ultimate power couple. Her knowledge of the law and how the agency works and his knowledge of the streets. I think she turns to the darkside cuz Greg is gunnin for her HARD...and Ghost. She gonna get Greg fucked up or killed some kind of way. She scandalous too, just on the other side of the law as Ghost.

Tommy ain't killin Ghost. Let's face it...if these mufuckas ain't killin 50 just cuz he exec prod., they damn sure ain't killin the star. I think the Cartel sends reps to NY to get that money and ensure business continues. They'd 86 all that bullshit Lobos talkin to Tommy about killin Ghost. THey just want product to keep movin and the money comin in.

Tommy and ghost gonna haveta work togetha begrudgingly wit that bitch Holly showin out every chance she get since ghost won't be able to touch or even threaten her now. A hair on her head outta place and Tommy lookin at Ghost.

 

[$Money_XXL]

I think some of yall are forgetting its ONLY been 18 episodes. That not even a full season on network TV. I think the writing is dam good, of course it could be better, but you have to fit a lot in a small time frame.

I don't watch TV at all, like 0...I'm the only one that hasn't seen The wire even though I bought the box set years ago, I just can't sit in front of the TV for ages, I knew about Power from last season but never bothered with it, anyway I caught up in 2 or 3 days...first season was ok but Season 2 was REALLY GOOD.

I wish they killed off that Angela bitch, conniving ass whore, she was playing dirty the whole series.

Ghost got some text messages from some girl, like "I miss you baby" who was that? Is that a new chick coming in next season?

I like Tommy, he's more of a stand up guy than Ghost, I was hoping Ghost would get killed, he plays too dirty too.

I don't mind Kanaan surviving, hopefully he kills off Ghost in the future, Ghost has wronged too many people to just be alive and running Truth.

 

[furlough]

why 50 say the door was tight like a pair of ballz though

 

[$Money_XXL]

why 50 say the door was tight like a pair of ballz though

LOL...Kanaan had been in Prison for too long, remember when he had his gun in a dude's mouth and the gay shit he was saying.

 

[Eclipse99]

Just finished watching the whole series. Pretty good, kept me entertained but it ain't up to the Wire status yet. The Wire just seemed more real/grimy, this shit seems like all the main characters end up living.... Oh yea that nigga Shawn got to be the worst actor I've seen in a minute. Just looked like he was trying to hard to act lol