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Terence Crawford vs. Errol Spence for the UNDISPUTED title

Who will win this fight?

  • Terence Crawford

    Votes: 53 63.1%

  • Errol Spence

    Votes: 31 36.9%
  • Total voters
    84
Gemini said:
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People running with a narrative...nobody slept on Crawford....he was the slight favorite on the betting sites...only the staunchest of Spence fans slept on him and thats just what fans do...nobody saw Spence being beaten down the way he was...why would anybody think Spence was gonna do worse against Bud than Avaneysan

I am still shocked by what I saw
 
Gemini said:
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The "illest" nigga in Nebraska

Bout it bout it fool!!!
 
YoBitchChoseMe said:
People still hating on Bud, everybody crying Spence ain't look the same. Of course He ain't look the same fighting the best :lol:
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People need to come up with a different word than “Hating”.

I wanted Bud to win but I could clearly see that something was off about Spence early in the fight.

If you thought he looked the same that’s an opinion but many thought he looked off. It’s not hating, it’s called being observant or calling a spade a spade.
 
alexw said:
Spence was drained out of his mind. Hell Shawn Porter gave Bud a much better fight.

Youve seen this before when a fighters body totally betrays them.

Spence hits hard....he breaks eye sockets. Tonight he had no pop from round one.

He throws a hundred punches a round. Tonight he just looked lethargic, sluggish and weak.

Terrance knew he had him after round one. Spence had nothing in the tank physically. He couldn't even move like he normally does. He literally stayed right in front of the man. That's not Spence.

In the presser he didn't want to make excuses but it's clear as day. Terrance is amazing but that wasn't the real Spence.

Terrance said he'd fight him at 54. But why help him out? Beat that ass again at 47 and get another easy check. If Errol refuses go beat up Boots.

I cannot hate on Crawford anymore. Once he adjusted to Spence's jab it was over.

He's an all time great.
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alexw said:
Again because the man was drained out of his mind
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As Spence said, no excuses but I’m thinking that you’re right.

To the critics I’m not “Hating” on Bud because I like Bud and he fought a great fight. But we can still speak on what we saw.

Spence looking off, not the same and not himself was probably just him being drained. Spence said no excuses but was adamant that the rematch would be at 154 and that he’s done with 147.

It was hard making 147 and it showed. Again no excuses because both fighters know what they signed up for and Crawford came more prepared.
 
REDLINE said:
People need to come up with a different word than “Hating”.

I wanted Bud to win but I could clearly see that something was off about Spence early in the fight.

If you thought he looked the same that’s an opinion but many thought he looked off. It’s not hating, it’s called being observant or calling a spade a spade.
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Weight drain and damage from that accident took something out of Spence.

That redness in his face was due to lack of oxygen and fluids.

If you ever gave blood or plasma and tried to run 10 miles afterwards, you would look the same

Errol needs to fight Crawford at 154 to stay hydrated and keep power. Bud might slow a bit 7 pounds heavier.

Maybe Canelo comes down to 154 after fighting Charlo or Charlo fights Bud at 154.

Plenty of great fights to be made if Bud can move up. Winning at 140, 147, & 154 would put him in elite territory.
 
Both great fighters no jokes about Spence he just got his ass whipped it doesn't take away from him he got beat by a better fighter just like Thomas hitman hearns did when he loss to sugar ray and Marvelous marvin hagler Tommy is still and all time great.
 
This shi is ryan 2.0 with the spence excuses about the drain shit. People said the same about wilder too being drain after tyson fury whopped his ass as well! :yawn::rolleyes2:
 
power lord said:
Both great fighters no jokes about Spence he just got his ass whipped it doesn't take away from him he got beat by a better fighter just like Thomas hitman hearns did when he loss to sugar ray and Marvelous marvin hagler Tommy is still and all time great.
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Simple as that and fuck the excuses.

Respect to both fighters

But crawford showed why he was the best!
 
Honestly, Spence looked just as drained before the Ugas fight but based off that Ugas performance, I said maybe he is ok...it was a combination of Crawford's greatness and being weight drained that made the ass whipping look so bad...at 154 Crawford still wins but it wont look as bad provided that beating didnt take something out of Spence mentally and physically...Crawford will be stronger at 154 too though so that is a cause for concern

Spence need to sit down with his family and his team and figure some shit out

Gonna be a rough year for Derrick James because Mell and Joshua should be losing their fights too...also, how is it going to work if Spence trying to rematch in December and they talking about Wilder and Joshua in December?...Spence clearly needs undivided attention if he talking about a rematch
 
slewdem100 said:
Honestly, Spence looked just as drained before the Ugas fight but based off that Ugas performance, I said maybe he is ok...it was a combination of Crawford's greatness and being weight drained that made the ass whipping look so bad...at 154 Crawford still wins but it wont look as bad provided that beating didnt take something out of Spence mentally and physically...Crawford will be stronger at 154 too though so that is a cause for concern

Spence need to sit down with his family and his team and figure some shit out

Gonna be a rough year for Derrick James because Mell and Joshua should be losing their fights too...also, how is it going to work if Spence trying to rematch in December and they talking about Wilder and Joshua in December?...Spence clearly needs undivided attention if he talking about a rematch
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Derrick james isn't a good trainer because your fighter shouldn't be drained but I refuse to make excuses for spence.

Also, you don't hear that shit about crawford being drained.
 
Thegooch said:
Weight drain and damage from that accident took something out of Spence.

That redness in his face was due to lack of oxygen and fluids.

If you ever gave blood or plasma and tried to run 10 miles afterwards, you would look the same

Errol needs to fight Crawford at 154 to stay hydrated and keep power. Bud might slow a bit 7 pounds heavier.

Maybe Canelo comes down to 154 after fighting Charlo or Charlo fights Bud at 154.

Plenty of great fights to be made if Bud can move up. Winning at 140, 147, & 154 would put him in elite territory.
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Great breakdown and critics, nobody’s “Hating” on Crawford or “Crying”, Just stating what we saw in Spence.

Bud came prepared and did everything that he needed to do to win and had an epically dominating performance.
 
jawnswoop said:
Derrick james isn't a good trainer because your fighter shouldn't be drained but I refuse to make excuses for spence.

Also, you don't hear that shit about crawford being drained.
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Weight drained means you are struggling to make the weight over the years as your body naturally gets heavier....trainer cant do anything about that...Spence was always a big welterweight and has been accused of being a weight bully...he was weight drained against Ugas but still put in a great show....against a superior talent like Bud it was a death sentence...as I said, Bud beats him again at 154 but Spence will likely respond better to the adversity

Spence stayed at 147 for business reasons and to make the Crawford fight but it has been well known for years that he needs to move up
 
slewdem100 said:
Weight drained means you are struggling to make the weight over the years as your body naturally gets heavier....trainer cant do anything about that...Spence was always a big welterweight and has been accused of being a weight bully...he was weight drained against Ugas but still put in a great show....against a superior talent like Bud it was a death sentence...as I said, Bud beats him again at 154 but Spence will likely respond better to the adversity

Spence stayed at 147 for business reasons and to make the Crawford fight but it has been well known for years that he needs to move up
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It don't even need to be a rematch. Spence really didn't have to make the fight if he didn't want to but I refuse to use that weight drain and car crash for the reason why he lost especially with all the hype surrounding him at the time before the fight.
 
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slewdem100 said:
Honestly, Spence looked just as drained before the Ugas fight but based off that Ugas performance, I said maybe he is ok...it was a combination of Crawford's greatness and being weight drained that made the ass whipping look so bad...at 154 Crawford still wins but it wont look as bad provided that beating didnt take something out of Spence mentally and physically...Crawford will be stronger at 154 too though so that is a cause for concern
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Yeah man Errol kind of mentioned this in the post presser. He's said he's gotten through the feeling before and did ok. Welp he's older and bud is a damn monster. Errol has only fought at one weight while Bud has been moving up. I also found it surprising that Bud said its hard for him to make 47. Bud looked really big in there last night.

The rematch at 54 will be the fight fans wanted to see. It's hard for me to imagine that Porter and some others could fight Bud better than Spence.

With that said, Bud too nice. I don't see anyone beating him until age finally gets to him. He's finally getting his flowers from me. He beat the shit out of my boy.
 
That fight was extremely hard to watch.
Spence brought NOTHING to the table.
The fight should have been long stopped by Derrick James cause Spence hard NO CHANCE
to comeback and win that fight, only take more punishment.
JABS was hurting him after a point....I know that nose is broke....smfh
James even stopped coming in the ring after the 5th round I believe
NOBODY from 154 down has a prayer to beat Crawford at this moment
I'm still in shock
Interesting take by Tarver and he's right
 
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jawnswoop said:
It don't even need to be a rematch. Spence really didn't have to make the fight if he didn't wanted to but I refused to use that weight drain and car crash for the reason why he lost especially all the hype surrounding him at the time before the fight.
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He lost because Bud Crawford is the best boxer in the world. We are just trying to figure out how he looked so bad.
 
slewdem100 said:
Spence should probably retire Boss....between the car crash, retina injury plus this devastation, whats the point?...he cant beat Crawford...he would still be too slow at 154 and only God knows what his mental would be in a rematch....one thing for a dude to knock you out with a single shot...this was domination, something Spence never felt before
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He is already rich, only one loss, his speech is already slurring, why not shut it down and enjoy the rest of your life.
 
Errol D sucked ... his corner sucked for not adapting n changing up ... he was slower than Crawford ..

Crawford D and Jabs won tht fight ...he got his ass beat ... smh ...

I`m Jamaican so u know who i was going 4 but the better man won tht night ...

n i hate to say it if they fought 10 times Crawford probably wins 10 times ..

Errol gotta go back to the drawing board before a rematch or it`s gonna b the same results ....
 
slam said:
Errol D sucked ... his corner sucked for not adapting n changing up ... he was slower than Crawford ..

Crawford D and Jabs won tht fight ...he got his ass beat ... smh ...

I`m Jamaican so u know who i was going 4 but the better man won tht night ...

n i hate to say it if they fought 10 times Crawford probably wins 10 times ..

Errol gotta go back to the drawing board before a rematch or it`s gonna b the same results ....
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A lot of people want him to retire after that ass whopping.
 
So they giving Bud the pound for pound title now..I ain't mad

Props to Spence thought ..that boy got heart never quit
 

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