Still going to see it.....but.....this is not a good look....
Reminds me of the BvS reaction...
Reminds me of the BvS reaction...
Movie Review: Suicide Squad Is Chaotic, Manic, and a Total Mess
Suicide Squad is a weird movie, and not just because it’s about a motley crew of supervillains set in the DC universe. The movie itself is also a motley amalgamation—a strange blend of different tones, stories, and pacing all mashed into something that has cool individual elements, but never really comes together.
Written and directed by David Ayer, Suicide Squad follows Amanda Waller (Viola Davis) as she puts together a team of villains to help on a dangerous mission. It sounds like a simple premise, but from a pure story standpoint, it’s exactly the opposite. Imagine if The Avengers had been made before any of the other Marvel movies—it would have to introduce Iron Man, Thor, all of them individually.
The same is true here. So before it can do anything else, Suicide Squad has to introduce about a dozen new characters and make you care about them. The first third of the film is nothing but set-up—there’s origin stories, table setting, villain introductions, and more. Surprisingly, all this, while excessive, is actually quite promising. It’s disjointed for sure, and things get a bit monotonous because the story isn’t really advancing, but there’s a certain energy to much of it. With this much set-up, you definitely want to see what’s next.
Unfortunately, once the assembled team begins their mission, that’s whereSuicide Squad starts to go off the rails. The goal of the Squad’s mission is incredibly ambiguous, gets even murkier as the narrative unfolds, and then falls apart once all is revealed at the end. Plus, the at least partially cohesive tone of the first act of the film segues into a second act that’s radically different in tone, and more of a war movie than anything else. Characters spend a good 20-30 minutes walking around just getting into gun fights. IfSuicide Squad were merely an action movie, this would be exciting, but these characters are villains, some of whom have superpowers. Merely seeing them shoot guns at things isn’t that exciting.
In a way, the film mirrors the actual Squad itself—a bunch of interesting parts that would often work better alone than together. For instance, the main character of the film is Will Smith’s Deadshot; he’s the first person we meet and the character who gets the most backstory. It’s a strong story too, but it’s also so prevalent compared to almost every other character, at times the film feels like it should be called “Deadshot plus Six” instead of “Suicide Squad.”
The second biggest role goes to Harley Quinn, played by Margot Robbie, who’s actually the exception that proves the rule. Thanks in part to Robbie’s memorable performance, she’s flighty, she’s unpredictable and when she’s having fun, so is the audience. She adds to every scene she’s in, and when she’s on screen, Suicide Squad is at its best. But she also brings the Joker with her, and he brings his own problem. He’s such an iconic, important villain, and yet he’s an afterthought in the film. There’s no big, meaty, iconic Joker scene for us to marvel at. His occasional appearances detract from the smaller characters the movie is actually about, to the point you almost wish he wasn’t in the movie at all.
In terms of the Squad, Diablo (Jay Hernandez) gets probably the next most screen time, with Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney) and Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) after that. But compared to Deadshot and Harley, they’re all supporting characters. The result is that whenever they’re around, things are very hit or miss: if they do or say something that advances the story, it works, but if they’re just standing there—which happens in a lot of the movie—you don’t care about them. Almost any of these characters could completely disappear and it wouldn’t matter in the slightest.
And then there’s the Enchantress. Played by Cara Delevingne, she’s also major presence in the film and one of the main villains. However, her storyline is criminally underwritten, which becomes a huge problem in act three, when it’s basically all about her. The movie completely ignores her most of the time; so when it suddenly pivots to bring her to the forefront, it’s too late for there to be any meaningful stakes or drama.
In an attempt to keep all these moving parts afloat, Ayer uses a copious amount of pop songs in Suicide Squad. Too many pop songs, if we’re being honest. From the Animals and Kanye West, to Eminem and the White Stripes, these songs are certainly nice to hear, but in almost every single case they’ve obviously been picked for very literal reasons. For example “Seven Nation Army” is played when the team comes together as an army. “Come Baby Come” by K7 is played almost solely so the line “Swing batter batter batter batter swing” can play in a key moment. By themselves, each song is enjoyable, but together they just clash with each other.
In that sense, the music ends up being almost the perfect microcosm of the film—the pieces are good, but together they somehow end up making something less than the sum of their parts. Some of the action is fun, some of the characters are great, and it does reach some nice emotional peaks. But it never feels like a true, cohesive movie. It feels a B-movie—an action-packed one, but a B-movie nonethelesses—that just happens to be set in the DC Universe. It’s as if Ayer had too many balls to juggle and when they all came tumbling down he said, “Well that’s still kind of cool.” Cool? Maybe. That doesn’t make it any less disappointing.
good to have you back fam...
honestly this is all VERY suspicious to me
I can't lie I did hear bad things way early and the last minute addtions had me leery
but to just SH*T on the movie like this?
after the GARBAGE that has been released the last few months?
I'm gonna wait and see this for myself.
I don't see Will Smith letting this get THAT bad and the director is MORE than good.
I am actually gonna do something I didn't even do for BvS or Civil War...
I'm gonna go see this over the weekend.
I never left! Just haven't had the time to hang out on the board like before. None the less, it is what it is as far as reviews go and like you say it's a strange one. It seems like people that have seen the movie have had a great time. Lots of laughs and lots of fun.
Ultimately you just got to judge these things for yourself.
I see it Sunday and look forward to reading the thread and see what people think.
In an attempt to keep all these moving parts afloat, Ayer uses a copious amount of pop songs in Suicide Squad. Too many pop songs, if we’re being honest. From the Animals and Kanye West, to Eminem and the White Stripes, these songs are certainly nice to hear, but in almost every single case they’ve obviously been picked for very literal reasons. For example “Seven Nation Army” is played when the team comes together as an army. “Come Baby Come” by K7 is played almost solely so the line “Swing batter batter batter batter swing” can play in a key moment. By themselves, each song is enjoyable, but together they just clash with each other.
I trust Jeremy Johns reviews. I've been looking forward to the movie so I'm going to check it out Saturday. I hope that DC movies are successful going forward. As movie/comic book fans if they're not good films we lose out.Ill take his review over most others.
this cunt
@ buzzfeed
Alison Willmore
gave ghost busters a pass but ripped apart Squad because Harley was too accurate to the books, based on her description in the article... I swear - the whole review on buzzfeed was full of poor grammar and feminist diatribe
she also makes it obvious she knows nothing about the source material... but wants to complain about character content
How “Suicide Squad” Uses And Abuses Harley Quinn
welp, thats the game...play or be played...w/ the promise/arrival of civil war every other comic book movie that isn't marvel/disney is gonna be overanalyzed and unnecessarily bashed
It might be a wrap for DC/WB; wait until Spiderman and Black Panther drops; DC is killing itself, within the movie business, and they might not never recover....As I always say, you never react out of emotion, and DC/WB decided to throw together a shared universe that was never even even thought of until the success of the Avengers. man of steel was made with no intentions of being part of the DCU. It keep coming off as desperate. Now if Wonder Woman or justice league fails....
Disney must have the juice like that or something. The only L they took in five years was John Carter. some cats on other boards saying Disney must of paid off God
soldthat was damn near as close as DC will ever get to a guardians of the galaxy level review.
It might be a wrap for DC/WB; wait until Spiderman and Black Panther drops; DC is killing itself, within the movie business, and they might not never recover....
The critics have not been nice at all but fuck a critic , I'm still checking this weekend. DC will need a homerun next year for real or its lights out.
I think Marvel just went in with a rock solid master plan and stuck to it, WB/DC just did not see that train coming and is scrambling to play catch up.I was banking on Suicide Squad to be the film to save DC
you would file bankruptcy fucking with these niggas
So true.As I always say, you never react out of emotion, and DC/WB decided to throw together a shared universe that was never even thought of until the success of the Avengers. man of steel was made with no intentions of being part of the DCU. It keep coming off as desperate. Now if Wonder Woman or justice league fails....
Disney must have the juice like that or something. The only L they took in five years was John Carter. some cats on other boards saying Disney must of paid off God
I think Marvel just went in with a rock solid master plan and stuck to it, WB/DC just did not see that train coming and is scrambling to play catch up.
that was before the success of the winter soldier. ironically, i watch captain america on netflix the day before the avengers came out. i wasn't crazy to see it since was a period piece. i thought it was good. it reminded me of the rocketeer on the visual side. but after the winter soldier, that was my favorite marvel movie. that fucked up dc head. no one expected cap to have one of the best flicks out of the bunch.They underestimated them, "Oh we got batman and superman, who would make a movie about captain america"
35% on rotten T.
pass.
heard it was a muddled plot with a disappointing end.
netflix.
Yep...they are definitely late and if this suicide shit bombs they in trouble for real...what movies that DC is dropping are really very anticipated?but spidey and panther got dudes camping out for that shit..I'm like...it's sad that DC is fucking up like this.....Breh marvel got THREE junts coming next year and 2018. The third Thor film gonna have hulk and thor on some 300/ gladiator shit. come out in November 2017... like two week before the justice league drops. DC maybe a day late and a few million short. DC dont even have a plan past 2020, Marvel got shit arranged for at least the next 8 years and with Dr strange, that may open up a whole new world of stories.
The smartest decision WB/DC ever made: Not letting BvS drop the same day as Civil War.
Yep...they are definitely late and if this suicide shit bombs they in trouble for real...what movies that DC is dropping are really very anticipated?but spidey and panther got dudes camping out for that shit..I'm like...it's sad that DC is fucking up like this.....
The only two HIGHLY anticipated junts from DC is are Wonder Woman and an untitled film in 2018/2019 (possibly solo batman). Peep how in the Justice League trailer they even had a marvel-ish tone
Man niggas already treating Black Panther as a national holiday for us. It even drop in black history month
that was before the success of the winter soldier. ironically, i watch captain america on netflix the day before the avengers came out. i wasn't crazy to see it since was a period piece. i thought it was good. it reminded me of the rocketeer on the visual side. but after the winter soldier, that was my favorite marvel movie. that fucked up dc head. no one expected cap to have one of the best flicks out of the bunch.
IF THIS BITCH GAVE GHOSTBUSTERS A PASS I WOULD NEVER......EVER.....EVER READ ANYTHING ELSE POSTED BY HER.this cunt
@ buzzfeed
Alison Willmore
gave ghost busters a pass but ripped apart Squad because Harley was too accurate to the books, based on her description in the article... I swear - the whole review on buzzfeed was full of poor grammar and feminist diatribe
she also makes it obvious she knows nothing about the source material... but wants to complain about character content
How “Suicide Squad” Uses And Abuses Harley Quinn