I don't get the critics issue and typically I do. It's a million times better then ghostbusters.
I'm in this joint right now....my God it's terrible so far...just ended Harley's flashback...
Jesus. Christmas...
I'm not going lie. When he said he wanted BET, I laughed. That was racist. Before he jumped into the water, he had alone that was clearly meant to be something similar to the hulks.It's a decent movie nothing great but not complete trash either. I saw it through T Mobile so not having to pay to see it may be making me less judgemental. The way that things were wrapped up with the villain could have been a lot better and Batman was not necessary. Also why did Killer Croc have to be the black stereotype?
I hated this movie.
I guess I'm not aligned with the DCU because I hated this more than BvS.
I'm sitting out the rest of these movies, I'm done.
I'll have a more concise and coherent review later I'm just shocked.
Total let down.
Suicide Squad just secured at least one big record for having the biggest August opening weekend in the history of the box office, unseating Guardians of the Galaxy in a quick swoop. The David Ayer-helmed DC adaptation had a great first week, but we’re starting to hear more and more about trouble behind the Warner Bros./DC curtain, from interpersonal drama to the shedding of several scenes to make the PG-13 cut. Now, Dark Horizons has located a list of rumored cut scenes, via a Reddit user, which you can take a look at below, that gives us a general sense of what might have been extracted from the original cut of the film.
Mind you, all of this is unconfirmed rumor – a post made by a random user on Reddit. Still, a lot of this sounds accurate, especially with Jared Leto‘s recent comments about myriad cut scenes of the Joker withMargot Robbie‘ Harley Quinn. There’s also plenty of evidence in the film itself that scenes that built up Jai Courtney‘s Captain Boomerang and Joel Kinnaman‘s Rick Flag more were taken out in order to cut down on runtime and rating concerns. According to CBM, not only was the scene where Flash (Ezra Miller) captures Boomerang added in after the original cut, but scenes where Deadshot fought Enchantress (Cara Delevingne), Boomerang’s exit before the climax is explained, and other interactions between Deadshot and Flag, as well as Boomerang and Harley, also found their way onto the cutting room floor.
Ayer has said that the film is his director’s cut, which does not bode well for anyone, but perhaps when this hunk of nonsense hits Blu-ray, we’ll see a few deleted scenes that can either confirm or deny this. Patience, DC fans, patience!
Here’s the rumored list of cut scenes via Reddit:
-In early cuts, the movie’s opening detailed June Moone’s possession by Enchantress in real time. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favor of a new opening centered on Deadshot.
-Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.
-El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.
-El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quell his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.
-Early interviews mentioned Captain Boomerang’s racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behavior, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.
-Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he lived his entire life as a social outcast due to his physical deformities and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham’s crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as ‘beautiful,’ one of these were retained in the final cut.
-Also deleted was a scene where he (Croc) becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.
-Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being a serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.
-More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moone’s romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.
-Another scene where Flag and Moone are out on a date.
-Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, “I can’t wait to show you my toys,” which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie.
-Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.
-Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker’s head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.
-Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue by the Joker.
-Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.
-Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.
-Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley’s neck-bomb to be disabled.
-More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all other members of the squad.
-Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone’s orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, is “a good idea.” The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot’s speech about them almost pulling the mission off.
-Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.
-Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.
-Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Suicide Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.
On top of this, another Reddit user has come forward with a list of differences between the film and the official novelization of the movie. You can check out the list right below via CBM:
-The story begins with June Moone investigating the caves. She’d being haunted by nightmares of a woman. She’s travelled halfway around the world to search for something that potentially may not exist. She knows the name ‘Enchantress’. She is accompanied by two people, Manuel and Luis, mountain guides she has worked with for several years. She can also speak Spanish. The mountain guides refuse to go into the cave with her. It seems like June has been plagued by these dreams for a long time.
-The story then goes to Arkham Asylum where it has been a peaceful night, until masked thugs descend from helicopters into the courtyard. They kill all the guards. The thugs are looking specifically for Harleen. “Doctor Quinzel. How nice of you to join us. You’re looking… good enough to eat. Figuratively speaking, of course. I’m strictly vegan. At least today”. The Joker then implies that the electroshock therapy is revenge for her doing it to him, and ‘scorching what few dead and faded memories I had into a sizzling knot…’. In the film Harley seems to not fear the Joker but in here she’s pleading for him to let her go. But then she starts to enjoy it, asking for more pain and pleasure.
-Then we go to Deadshot who is out in town. He gives coupons to homeless men and then watches them scramble to get them. We get the scene with him preparing to shoot the guy.
-Then we get the club scene which is largely unchanged.
-A scene with Deadshot and his daughter that was in the movie, but also him arguing with his ex-wife, and then Batman.
-Then the Joker and Harley in the car. We find out why the track is called ‘You can’t make my teeth hurt’ and the line ‘Hope you’ve got insurance’. The Joker doesn’t give a shit and laughs at the fact that he drives into Gotham river leaving Harley to die. Batman says ‘Joker took something important from me. It’s my turn’.
-Then Harley in Belle Reve and Deadshot, being taken by Griggs.
-The Ace Chemicals scene is extended. It’s implied the Joker makes her jump off as a joke, but then changes his mind similar to the film.
-He (Joker) manages to jump out of the helicopter. The helicopter crashes into a bank building. He laughs knowing that money is burning inside. ‘God, I love the smell of burning cash in the morning’. I haven’t read up to there yet but from a search it appears that he’s not in it after that which I find confusing. I’ll keep reading. The story has the same ending, though, with the Joker breaking Harley out.
Description of the extended Ace Chemicals scene: The scene goes as follows:
Joker points down towards the vats.
Joker: “There. I was born down there.”
Harley stares down. She desperately wants the same.
Joker: “Would you die for me?”
Harley nods.
Harley: “Yes.”
Joker: “No… that’s too easy. Would you live for me?”
Joker smiles, scaring her.
Joker: “Will you embrace me, and only me?”
Harley nods vigorously.
Joker: “Will you bind your spirit to mine… in hate? Do you consign your soul to me? Do you laugh at the world in disgust?”
Harley: “…yes.”
Joker: “Do not say this oath thoughtlessly. Desire becomes surrender. Surrender becomes power. Do you want it? Do you really want it?”
Harley: “I do. I do.”
Joker: “Then goodbye, Doctor Quinzel.”
Joker gestures towards the edge of the vat. Without hesitation she jumps.
Joker thinks “She’s gone, forever. Problem solved.” He pauses and touches his chest. He feels something. Love? Of course not. He couldn’t see her floating face down and dying. Which was the original plan. He jumps down.
Even if we don’t end up seeing any of these scenes in the DVD/Blu-ray release of Suicide Squad, all of this information gives an inherently fascinating view into Ayer’s and Warner Bros. creative process. If even a quarter of these scenes were included, the movie would have been much different. Not better, necessarily, but much different – I, for one, wanted more Captain Boomerang and a deeper understanding of Flag and Enchantress’ relationship. And it would have been nice if Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) was more than a punchline/death machine. Ayer has said that the theatrical cut is also his director’s cut, but that doesn’t mean that there’s any harm in letting some of the scenes and sequences see the light of day.
Jared Leto isn’t holding back anymore. He after he broke the news that a lot of Joker scenes had been cut for Suicide Squad, he did some other interviews where he sounded a bit annoyed. Now it’s beginning to sound like he’s a little heartbroken over the whole thing. And understandably so!
While promoting Suicide Squad in the UK, Leto appeared on BBC Radio 1 with host Edith Bowman. Leto said that certain scenes that he shot with Margot Robbie that ended up getting cut were some of his favorite work he’s ever done in a movie. He then went on to say that he shot enough footage for them to make an entire Joker movie out of!
“I think that I brought so much to the table in every scene that it was probably more about filtering all of the insanity, because I wanted to give a lot of options, and I think there’s probably enough footage in this film for a Joker movie,” Leto explained. “If I were to die tomorrow maybe the studio would roll something out.”
That’s really disappointing to hear, considering The Joker got 10 minutes of screen time at the very most in Suicide Squad.
It sounds like Leto felt he was held back a bit by the PG-13 rating, because he was lobbying for it to be rated R, even while they were shooting.
“I always wished this film was rated R, and I had actually said that when we were starting. It felt like if a film was ever going to be rated R it should be the one about the villains,” he said.
You can check out the entire 14 minute interview below. Leto is very open and honest about the whole thing, as you can see from the quotes I covered in this article.
yeah, i agree with this.And I still say Amanda Waller should have been played by the girl that was Precious. Viola did a damn good job but part of what makes Waller "The Wall" is her physical stature.
i don't ....i don't think "precious" can act at all.....they could have found another big bitch thoughyeah, i agree with this.
Saw it. They should have just not pumped up the Joker so much. I actually enjoyed the movie, but teasing the Joker was just wrong.
that's what ruined it for meYou could tell from the trailer they were going to do that though lol. If you noticed the Joker was never in the same scenes as the rest of the Suicide Squad aside from Harley. So I at least knew that.
Had no idea they was gonna fight some chic who was bucking and shit the whole movie though lol.
that's what ruined it for me
well not ruined but kept me from completely loving it....the villain sucked...
I don't get the critics issue and typically I do. It's a million times better then ghostbusters.
Is the movie better than BvS .
You could tell from the trailer they were going to do that though lol. If you noticed the Joker was never in the same scenes as the rest of the Suicide Squad aside from Harley. So I at least knew that.
Had no idea they was gonna fight some chic who was bucking and shit the whole movie though lol.