** The HBO Series "The Wire" Question & Answer Thread **

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ok.

this makes sense.
 

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the fact that he was a fag and a stone cold killer at the same time added something to that character. if the character was just a normal cat walking through the hood robing dealers with a shot gun by his side the character would have been less memorable.

Speak for yourself...the most memorable scenes was him robbing niggas and having shootouts in the street not his gay scenes...how gangster he was and how much respect niggas had for him made him memorable to me...if the gay shit made him more memorable to you so be it
 

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We know why YOU liked Omar son don't even get me started hahahhahahaha

I agree with this. Him being gay didn't make him more interesting. It made him a strong contradiction to the norm. Come on, a gay, tough thug in the mold of Robin Hood that demanded respect? That shit ain't normal, and you haven't seen shit like that on TV, at least not often. It made him stand out, that's for damned sure.

Like LSN said, his code, to me, made him more interesting. I can respect that. I hate drug dealers and thugs. Personally, I would like nothing more than to pull a Batman-type vigilante run and just go around the hood merking drug dealers. Fuck em, they won't be missed. Mothers crying, oh well. He shouldn't have sold dope in the hood. Gangbangers who have their hood in fear to even call the police when they get beaten up, shot at, their shit stolen, etc.? Merk them, too.

Omar never pulled on anybody who wasn't in the game, which is different from the drug dealers and thugs I talked about merking. If you get robbed and you tell the police, they beat you up or kill you. You tell the police because you don't want your kids growing up around that shit, they kill you. You only wanted a clean neighborhood, but you had to die because you snitched. I would say every hood needs an Omar kinda cat, but him doing what he did didn't lessen their numbers. It just made them pissed.
 

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This nigga is totally offbase. Omar wasn't no fucking Robin Hood. Omar was a fucking thief and a killer. He wasn't much better than the dealers he robbed.

I gotta disagree w/ you here...Omar was "honorable" in that ya he was a thief/killer but he only stole from/killed other thieves/killers...whereas drug dealers fucked w/ the innocent all the time whether be it peddling drugs recruiting youngsters killing off witnesses etc
 

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I gotta disagree w/ you here...Omar was "honorable" in that ya he was a thief/killer but he only stole from/killed other thieves/killers...whereas drug dealers fucked w/ the innocent all the time whether be it peddling drugs recruiting youngsters killing off witnesses etc

yeah but he stole and then "recruiting youngsters" and sold the drugs too.
:dunno:
 

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I gotta disagree w/ you here...Omar was "honorable" in that ya he was a thief/killer but he only stole from/killed other thieves/killers...whereas drug dealers fucked w/ the innocent all the time whether be it peddling drugs recruiting youngsters killing off witnesses etc

SEASON FIVE SPOILER


"A man gotta have a code"

Ironically, his code is what got him killed by a drug dealer. He under estimated kids. He said said so in Season 4 when Mike went to see Marlo about taking care of his Step Pop. Under estimated again when he ran up on Mike and his crew looking to send Marlo a message (Mike was in the apartment taking shots at him on a previous night). As careful as he was, which allowed him to live for so long, it was his under estimation of children in the neighborhood that got him killed.
 

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Stringer was the best. he was an inspiring character.

Ehh Barksdale ethered him when he said more or less dude thought he was too smart for the hood but was too dumb for the niggas in suits...he had some cool aspects about his character but he was a double dealing weasel that took a few community college courses and ended up waaay in over his head...man w/o a country
 

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"A man gotta have a code"

Ironically, his code is what got him killed by a drug dealer. He under estimated kids. He said said so in Season 4 when Mike went to see Marlo about taking care of his Step Pop. Under estimated again when he ran up on Mike and his crew looking to send Marlo a message (Mike was in the apartment taking shots at him on a previous night). As careful as he was, which allowed him to live for so long, it was his under estimation of children in the neighborhood that got him killed.

What does his underestimating Kennard/Mike have to do w/ his code...? His code was about the innocent...I sure he woulda did something to Mike if he knew that was him in the apt.
 

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Ehh Barksdale ethered him when he said more or less dude thought he was too smart for the hood but was too dumb for the niggas in suits...he had some cool aspects about his character but he was a double dealing weasel that took a few community college courses and ended up waaay in over his head...man w/o a country
YEAH TRUE. THE THING Is most niggas skipped season 2. shit i did the same thing cause most of bgol was saying that it was wack. so when bell got killed i got mad like how can you kill him he was one of the best characters on there. but then few years later i watched season 2 and even i wanted bell dead because he was just a scumbag :smh:
 

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What does his underestimating Kennard/Mike have to do w/ his code...? His code was about the innocent...I sure he woulda did something to Mike if he knew that was him in the apt.

My apologies for not clarifying. Omar comes from an old way of thinking. And oldschool code. Even in the "prequels" that were OnDemand it showed he was from an oldschool way of thinking (not wanting to rob the working man on the corner). No robbing/killing the working man, and leave the kids out of it UNLESS you're in the game. He seriously under estimated the mindset of kids. In season 4, Omar did recon on Marlo since he wasn't about to come straight at him (promise he made to Bunk after Bunk sprung him from jail). While doing recon, he decided to not even give a shit who Mike was when he had a sit down with Marlo, Chris and Snoop. Fast forward to Season 5 and the showdown on the corner with Mike's crew. If it were ANYONE else out there, Monk, Snoop, Chris, etc, he would've killed them. As it stands, he let Mike live (who just took shots at him) as well as Kenard who eventually kills him. Hope my point has been made clear. I agree, Marlo definitely lived by a code. Which of course was opposite to the Barksdale crew (shot the project maintenance man who testified even tho D got off) and the Stanfield crew (shot the store Security Guard because he didn't want to be disrespected by Marlo). No way Omar kills either one of those guys.
 

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Ehh Barksdale ethered him when he said more or less dude thought he was too smart for the hood but was too dumb for the niggas in suits...he had some cool aspects about his character but he was a double dealing weasel that took a few community college courses and ended up waaay in over his head...man w/o a country

Stringer is like all theese cats who have Record labels. he wanted to legitimize and CLEAN UP HIS CASH. avon was busy on that Street shit.

String was a shrewd businessman.
 

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Stringer is like all theese cats who have Record labels. he wanted to legitimize and CLEAN UP HIS CASH. avon was busy on that Street shit.

String was a shrewd businessman.

See that's where you fucked up...I agree w/ the 1st part of ya statement...but NO WAY you can call him a shrewd businessman...no way...some of y'all confusing his aspirations w/ what he was actually able to accomplish
 

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See that's where you fucked up...I agree w/ the 1st part of ya statement...but NO WAY you can call him a shrewd businessman...no way...some of y'all confusing his aspirations w/ what he was actually able to accomplish

string was sharp. he bit off more than he could chew and got taken to the cleaners though.
 

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string was sharp. he bit off more than he could chew and got taken to the cleaners though.

He was "sharp" compared to the lil niggas he was bossin around while Avon was away...dude was a drug dealer working on an AA degree that picked up a lil knowledge in class...he had $$$ he had the vision in the end tho he ain't did shit but underestimate and cross the wrong niggas Barksdale Omar Brother and Clay
 

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I gotta disagree w/ you here...Omar was "honorable" in that ya he was a thief/killer but he only stole from/killed other thieves/killers...whereas drug dealers fucked w/ the innocent all the time whether be it peddling drugs recruiting youngsters killing off witnesses etc

He still wasn't Robin Hood. That money went to his pocket. Plus he sold drugs or gave the drugs to other drug dealers in exchange for favors (trading some drugs for Avon's pager number).


yeah but he stole and then "recruiting youngsters" and sold the drugs too.
:dunno:

Yep.

Ehh Barksdale ethered him when he said more or less dude thought he was too smart for the hood but was too dumb for the niggas in suits...he had some cool aspects about his character but he was a double dealing weasel that took a few community college courses and ended up waaay in over his head...man w/o a country

Stringer Bell was a bitch. Niggas (and Black women) are in love with the ideal of Stringer Bell because most started watching in Season 3 and he was the "dream" combo of a gangster and a gentleman or a "reformed thug" that women lust after. If you watched from Season 1, you saw through that nigga. Everytime I rewatch the series, I wince at the times the nigga would learn something in class and try and use it on the streets to make himself feel better than others. Like when he told Shamrock to do something and used a 5 dollar word and asked Sham if he knew what it meant? And Sham was like "yea" and String looked the fool a lil. String had ideas, but they weren't for this world. His shit was too "in a vacuum".

I saw this niggas downfall coming a mile away. He was a lost puppy in the streets without Avon as evidence by his fuckups in Season 2. Season 2 was key and a lot of niggas skipped over the "white season". He met face to face with Omar a couple times and a real nigga woulda put in the work. When they met in Prop Joe's office, he should've shot him there. What would Joe do? He just slip Joe some money and that be the end. Nah, he too scared to shoot. He thinks he can outsmart a nigga.

What does his underestimating Kennard/Mike have to do w/ his code...? His code was about the innocent...I sure he woulda did something to Mike if he knew that was him in the apt.

Omar's code was not hurting innocents. In his mind, kids were innocent too. Remember the scene were the cops rush the corner and everyone runs off, but the cop catches Kenard and Carver's like "Nah, let him go, we at least want the bracelets to fit." or some shit like that even though Carver knew he was selling drugs? I mean Simon beats us over the head with the idea that the adults see Kenard as a child when he's really not. Like in Season 3 when he was imitating Omar. Just a kid. So Omar though Kenard was an innocent kid, a lil runner at the most (especially because of his small sixe). If Mike or Spider or Randy or whoever had walked into that door, Omar would've been on his Ps and Qs., Remember when he got arrested in season 4? And he saw the police car in the reflection of the security mirror and put his gun in the freezer? We've been taught that Omar, when in public, has his guard up at all times. Kenard slipped through.
 

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Omar's code was not hurting innocents. In his mind, kids were innocent too. Remember the scene were the cops rush the corner and everyone runs off, but the cop catches Kenard and Carver's like "Nah, let him go, we at least want the bracelets to fit." or some shit like that even though Carver knew he was selling drugs? I mean Simon beats us over the head with the idea that the adults see Kenard as a child when he's really not. Like in Season 3 when he was imitating Omar. Just a kid. So Omar though Kenard was an innocent kid, a lil runner at the most (especially because of his small sixe). If Mike or Spider or Randy or whoever had walked into that door, Omar would've been on his Ps and Qs., Remember when he got arrested in season 4? And he saw the police car in the reflection of the security mirror and put his gun in the freezer? We've been taught that Omar, when in public, has his guard up at all times. Kenard slipped through.

Aight so I dig what the other dude was saying then about the code being his downfall to an extent...and I agree w/ ALL the shit you said about Stringer to the point where I'm leave that discussion be
 

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He was "sharp" compared to the lil niggas he was bossin around while Avon was away...dude was a drug dealer working on an AA degree that picked up a lil knowledge in class...he had $$$ he had the vision in the end tho he ain't did shit but underestimate and cross the wrong niggas Barksdale Omar Brother and Clay

:yes:Right and I still don't see why and how so many fans of the show like to act as if Stringer was above the rest in terms of thinking and going about things:when he died the same way,at the will & hands of another.
 

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See that's where you fucked up...I agree w/ the 1st part of ya statement...but NO WAY you can call him a shrewd businessman...no way...some of y'all confusing his aspirations w/ what he was actually able to accomplish

He was "sharp" compared to the lil niggas he was bossin around while Avon was away...dude was a drug dealer working on an AA degree that picked up a lil knowledge in class...he had $$$ he had the vision in the end tho he ain't did shit but underestimate and cross the wrong niggas Barksdale Omar Brother and Clay

Man niggas overestimate Stringer's book learning. Nigga was fugaze. Season 2, D'Angelo was reading Gatsby, talking about him having books he never read in his house. Look at that nigga String house in Season 3. The Wealth of Nations? That nigga wasn't reading that shit. "Who the fuck was I after?" String was like a lil kid who learned the letter A and would go home and repeat that shit. Those little "nuggets" he was spitting about "later for the gangster bullshit" and "territory ain't shit" wasn't no new economic drug theory, it was born out of necessity because the nigga was bitch in the streets. He wanted to get as far away from the street way as possible.

Niggas been renaming their drugs to fool fiends. That ain't no new shit. Niggas been selling good shit wholesale. How you think Scarface got big? Selling good shit and insulating yourself. The Co-op, which was the biggest success, was Prop Joe's idea and that nigga ain't go to college. The biggest trick David Simon did was convincing niggas that String was bout shit when he wasn't bout shit.
 

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Look at that nigga String house in Season 3. The Wealth of Nations? That nigga wasn't reading that shit.

Hahhahahaahhaha I ain't wanna say that shit cuz then cats would say I was hatin but I feel you tho hahahahahha
 

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He was "sharp" compared to the lil niggas he was bossin around while Avon was away...dude was a drug dealer working on an AA degree that picked up a lil knowledge in class...he had $$$ he had the vision in the end tho he ain't did shit but underestimate and cross the wrong niggas Barksdale Omar Brother and Clay

cant say i disagree with that. i mean he was smart enough to get a good amount of legal money flowing by the time avon got out. i give him props for that. i dont give much props for him attending classes at night but it was an interesting lil twist i guess.

i think dude was pretty smart but people either try to make him out to be some genius or they go the other way and act like he was retarded.
 

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The biggest trick David Simon did was convincing niggas that String was bout shit when he wasn't bout shit.

I wouldn't call it a trick...to the cats he was running w/ and to the cops chasing him who wanted to view him as just some lowlife drug dealing nigga he was "all" that ppl amped him up to be...cuz the lil niggas he was running w/ and the cops chasing him is all pawns...but to the real powers that be in the streets/offices that control these pawns to an extent saw thru him and Barksdale checked him good and basically was responsible for his death...but ya man that line from McNulty had me like is this nigga serious talking bout "who the fuck was I after"...I guess that was just a reflection of how low his opinion of Stringer was
 

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Other than LT. Daniels (Lance Reddick) what is the connection between The Wire and Fringe. I have seen Chris Partlow, Pryzbylewski, Frank Sobatka (second season Union Head) so far and I am just in the middle of season 2 of Fringe.

Does anybody know?
 

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ok. season 1 ep 5, avon took d'angelo to a hospital to show him his uncle.

maybe i missed it but, who was he and what happened to him?

it looks like he was in a coma and it shows that he was shot in the head.

i'm in the process of watching the whole series again and i'm trying to tie up some loose ends.
 

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cant say i disagree with that. i mean he was smart enough to get a good amount of legal money flowing by the time avon got out. i give him props for that. i dont give much props for him attending classes at night but it was an interesting lil twist i guess.

i think dude was pretty smart but people either try to make him out to be some genius or they go the other way and act like he was retarded.

The thing with Stringer was that he saw the bigger picture. Like Lester feared, Stringer had him and Avon on their way to becoming the bank and being untouchable.
 

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ok. season 1 ep 5, avon took d'angelo to a hospital to show him his uncle.

maybe i missed it but, who was he and what happened to him?

it looks like he was in a coma and it shows that he was shot in the head.

i'm in the process of watching the whole series again and i'm trying to tie up some loose ends.

that scene brings up my point about string.

avon took d to see their family member. i think dude got shot and was in a coma. they couldnt put him in a nicer facility cuz at that point they couldnt show that they were getting money. by the time avon got out of jail, string had put them in position where they could enjoy their success a little more openly since he had made some moves to wash the money and get that legal cash flow going.
The thing with Stringer was that he saw the bigger picture. Like Lester feared, Stringer had him and Avon on their way to becoming the bank and being untouchable.

yea no doubt. he was one of the only street characters on the show that was able to take a step back from their current position and map out a long term strategy.

his problem was that he swore he was warren buffet or some shit. he really wasnt. like he never woulda gotten taken by clay if he woulda just run the deal thru his lawyer. dude thought he was too damn smart. who does million dollar commercial real estate deals without running shit past an attorney?
 
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ok. season 1 ep 5, avon took d'angelo to a hospital to show him his uncle.

maybe i missed it but, who was he and what happened to him?

it looks like he was in a coma and it shows that he was shot in the head.

i'm in the process of watching the whole series again and i'm trying to tie up some loose ends.

Yeah I think Unc got shot and was in a basic state facility. yes:[/QUOTE]

that scene brings up my point about string.

avon took d to see their family member. i think dude got shot and was in a coma. they couldnt put him in a nicer facility cuz at that point they couldnt show that they were getting money. by the time avon got out of jail, string had put them in position where they could enjoy their success a little more openly since he had made some moves to wash the money and get that legal cash flow going.


yea no doubt. he was one of the only street characters on the show that was able to take a step back from their current position and map out a long term strategy.

his problem was that he swore he was warren buffet or some shit. he really wasnt. like he never woulda gotten taken by clay if he woulda just run the deal thru his lawyer. dude thought he was too damn smart. who does million dollar commercial real estate deals without running shit past an attorney?

Yeah String had a vision, but a lot of niggas in the hood got visions. Please believe. Talk to some drug dealers. A lot of niggas try to set up legit businesses to get out the game and "be the bank". To me that shit is nothing new, that's why I don't see String as some Michael Jordan of the hood.

Yeah his hubris was his downfall. He thought he was just as smart as Levy and didn't need to cut the Jew in on anything. That's why Simon threw in that bit in Season 5 about Davis laughing at Stringer, just to show you how little he thought of him.

Maurice Levy was the real gangsta nigga. Very underrated. That nigga had that White man's "I'm invincible" type mentality the way he would slap D'Angelo around and laugh in Stringer's face. Then again, I guess he recognized weak niggas. He knew Herc would run shit to his cop buddies (including Marlo's number). He didn't give a fuck who did what. A big case meant more billable hours. That dude was gangsta.
 

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Since I answer so many questions, I got a question. Season 1, D'Angelo was approached by Shardene to buy her a drink for 20 bucks. Is this normal? I mean all she did was keep him company? Does this shit happen? Never seen it an any club I went to.
 

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The thing with Stringer was that he saw the bigger picture. Like Lester feared, Stringer had him and Avon on their way to becoming the bank and being untouchable.
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Since I answer so many questions, I got a question. Season 1, D'Angelo was approached by Shardene to buy her a drink for 20 bucks. Is this normal? I mean all she did was keep him company? Does this shit happen? Never seen it an any club I went to.



i think she had just gave 20 to the old dude that had a gripe. she told De angelo 20 to recoup those ends
 

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Maurice Levy was the real gangsta nigga. Very underrated. That nigga had that White man's "I'm invincible" type mentality the way he would slap D'Angelo around and laugh in Stringer's face. Then again, I guess he recognized weak niggas. He knew Herc would run shit to his cop buddies (including Marlo's number). He didn't give a fuck who did what. A big case meant more billable hours. That dude was gangsta.

Cosign here.

Levy never took an L.

This should be his theme song...

 

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Maurice Levy was the real gangsta nigga. Very underrated. That nigga had that White man's "I'm invincible" type mentality the way he would slap D'Angelo around and laugh in Stringer's face. Then again, I guess he recognized weak niggas. He knew Herc would run shit to his cop buddies (including Marlo's number). He didn't give a fuck who did what. A big case meant more billable hours. That dude was gangsta.

Yep. Levy was the real gangsta. And he'll keep being the real gangsta because whoever is running the streets, be it Barksdales, Prop Joe peoples, Marlo's crew, or whoever takes over next, they'll all need that shady ass lawyer. EVERY city has one. Philly has a few I know of.
 
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